Re: [PATCH 4/4] TODO: Marking the Barred Dialing task as done

2010-12-07 Thread Sankar
Hi Denis/Pessi,


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Sankar,
>
> > Then as per your email, the support provided in Ofono seems to be
> limited. If there is no enable or disable is allowed,
> > I am not sure, how we can we have a card in which FDN enabled, which
> will force the ofono to enter presim state. Unless there is no
> > option to disable at, forever with that sim card, the phone will be in
> presim state,leading to only placing of emergency calls.
>
> Support for disabling FDN was discussed earlier. Denis/Pessi could you
> confirm what was the decision made on FDN disable support?
>

Can you please provide your comments on the support for Enable/Disable of
FDN/BDN in ofono.

Thanks,
Sankar.

>
> > Thanks for confirming. Then in this case, are we not forcing the
> mobile to go in a state, where if FDN is already enabled in the sim
> card( may be from a different phone),
> > user allowed with no option rather than making an emergency call.
>
> Yes, we are forcing the mobile into presim state where only emergency
> calls are allowed. We have already discussed this many times in irc and
> its been agreed that only emergency calls are allowed when FDN or BDN
> enabled SIM used.
>
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RE: [PATCH 4/4] TODO: Marking the Barred Dialing task as done

2010-12-06 Thread Jeevaka.Badrappan
Hi Sankar,
 
> Then as per your email, the support provided in Ofono seems to be
limited. If there is no enable or disable is allowed,
> I am not sure, how we can we have a card in which FDN enabled, which
will force the ofono to enter presim state. Unless there is no
> option to disable at, forever with that sim card, the phone will be in
presim state,leading to only placing of emergency calls.

Support for disabling FDN was discussed earlier. Denis/Pessi could you
confirm what was the decision made on FDN disable support?

> Thanks for confirming. Then in this case, are we not forcing the
mobile to go in a state, where if FDN is already enabled in the sim
card( may be from a different phone), 
> user allowed with no option rather than making an emergency call. 

Yes, we are forcing the mobile into presim state where only emergency
calls are allowed. We have already discussed this many times in irc and
its been agreed that only emergency calls are allowed when FDN or BDN
enabled SIM used.

Regards,
Jeevaka
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Re: [PATCH 4/4] TODO: Marking the Barred Dialing task as done

2010-12-06 Thread Sankar
Hi Jeevaka,

Thanks for confirming.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:52 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Sankar,
>
> > Is there a way for the clients to enable or disable the Fixed
> Dialling? I assume they should be able to do this by using the dbus
> calls, "LockPin/UnlockPin".  Is there a
> > way to store the FDN numbers in the sim card? How does ofono validate
> the request to be passed to the network when FDN is enabled? Looks like
> as per the current
> > implementation of FDN, only emergency calls are allowed. But as per
> the 3GPP standards, calls shall be allowed to any number (irrespective
> of emergency no) that is part of > the FDN list.
>
> Currently, there is no way to enable or disable fixed dialling or Barred
> Dialling using oFono. If my assumption is correct, there is no plans to
> add support.(Denis/Marcel can confirm this). oFono doesn't support
> storing any numbers in the SIM storage(EFadn, EFfdn or EFbdn). Agreed as
> per the specification calls shall be allowed to any number that is part
> of the FDN list. But its been agreed that oFono will enter presim state
> when FDN or BDN service is enabled in which state only emergency calls
> are allowed.
>
Then as per your email, the support provided in Ofono seems to be limited.
If there is no enable or disable is allowed,
I am not sure, how we can we have a card in which FDN enabled, which will
force the ofono to enter presim state. Unless there is no
option to disable at, forever with that sim card, the phone will be in
presim state,leading to only placing of emergency calls.

>
> > If the modem remains in PRESIM State, how does the mobile receive the
> Incoming Calls or SMS? As per my understanding FDN applies in the uplink
> and not in the downlink.
> > Please clarify if my understanding is wrong.
>
> Yes, your understanding is correct. FDN applies to the Mobile originated
> calls, SMS etc.
>
Thanks for confirming. Then in this case, are we not forcing the mobile to
go in a state, where if FDN is already enabled in the sim card( may be from
a different phone), user allowed with no option rather than making an
emergency call.

>
> Regards,
> Jeevaka
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RE: [PATCH 4/4] TODO: Marking the Barred Dialing task as done

2010-12-06 Thread Jeevaka.Badrappan
Hi Sankar,

> Is there a way for the clients to enable or disable the Fixed
Dialling? I assume they should be able to do this by using the dbus
calls, "LockPin/UnlockPin".  Is there a 
> way to store the FDN numbers in the sim card? How does ofono validate
the request to be passed to the network when FDN is enabled? Looks like
as per the current 
> implementation of FDN, only emergency calls are allowed. But as per
the 3GPP standards, calls shall be allowed to any number (irrespective
of emergency no) that is part of > the FDN list.  

Currently, there is no way to enable or disable fixed dialling or Barred
Dialling using oFono. If my assumption is correct, there is no plans to
add support.(Denis/Marcel can confirm this). oFono doesn't support
storing any numbers in the SIM storage(EFadn, EFfdn or EFbdn). Agreed as
per the specification calls shall be allowed to any number that is part
of the FDN list. But its been agreed that oFono will enter presim state
when FDN or BDN service is enabled in which state only emergency calls
are allowed.

> If the modem remains in PRESIM State, how does the mobile receive the
Incoming Calls or SMS? As per my understanding FDN applies in the uplink
and not in the downlink.  
> Please clarify if my understanding is wrong.

Yes, your understanding is correct. FDN applies to the Mobile originated
calls, SMS etc.

Regards,
Jeevaka
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Re: [PATCH 4/4] TODO: Marking the Barred Dialing task as done

2010-12-06 Thread Sankar
Hi Jeevaka,

I have a few comments on the support of FDN and BDN in Ofono. Can you please
clarify.

Thanks,
Sankar.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Jeevaka Badrappan <
jeevaka.badrap...@elektrobit.com> wrote:

> ---
>  TODO |7 ---
>  doc/features.txt |5 +
>  2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/TODO b/TODO
> index d9a6580..ad96241 100644
> --- a/TODO
> +++ b/TODO
> @@ -110,13 +110,6 @@ SMS
>  SIM / SIM File system
>  =
>
> -- Barred Dialing numbers support.  BDN will not be supported by oFono.
> -  If BDN service enabled SIM is used, oFono will go into emergency mode.
> -
> -  Priority: Low
> -  Complexity: C2
> -  Owner: Jeevaka Badrappan 
> -
>  - Read / Write EFcfis.  Call forwarding settings can be bootstrapped on
> the
>   SIM for faster notification of the user that call forwarding is active.
>   These settings are stored in EFcfis.  oFono should read these settings
> and
> diff --git a/doc/features.txt b/doc/features.txt
> index 3524e79..12be037 100644
> --- a/doc/features.txt
> +++ b/doc/features.txt
> @@ -135,3 +135,8 @@ SIM
>   check if FDN support is allocated and enabled in the SIM.  If enabled,
>   oFono halts the SIM initialization procedure and the modem remains in the
>   PRESIM state.  In this state oFono will only allow emergency calls.
>

Is there a way for the clients to enable or disable the Fixed Dialling? I
assume they should be able to do this by using the dbus calls,
"LockPin/UnlockPin".  Is there a way to store the FDN numbers in the sim
card? How does ofono validate the request to be passed to the network when
FDN is enabled? Looks like as per the current implementation of FDN, only
emergency calls are allowed. But as per the 3GPP standards, calls shall be
allowed to any number (irrespective of emergency no) that is part of the FDN
list.

If the modem remains in PRESIM State, how does the mobile receive the
Incoming Calls or SMS? As per my understanding FDN applies in the uplink and
not in the downlink.
Please clarify if my understanding is wrong.

> +
> +- Barred Dialing support.  oFono reads the necessary bits from the SIM to
> +  check if BDN support is allocated and enabled in the SIM.  If enabled,
> +  oFono halts the SIM initialization procedure and the modem remains in
> the
> +  PRESIM state.  In this state oFono will only allow emergency calls.
>
I have similar doubts for BDN also.

> --
>

Best Regards,
Sankar.

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