RE: [RFC 3/5] voicecall: Add ofono_voicecall_tty_notify api

2011-01-13 Thread Kai.Vehmanen
Hello Marcel,

On 12 Jan 2011, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
 Are we expecting that all modems will just establish a normal voice
 call
 and only later on signal that it is a TTY call? Any input from
 different
 vendors other than IFX. What about STE, ISI?

not later, but as part of standard call setup. E.g. on ISI, CTM is 
a property of a voice call. And this makes sense as TTY calls _are_ 
essentially voice calls, with just a bit indicating to the network that 
the voice circuit should be free of any transcoder/audioprocessing/etc 
that is not compatible with CTM. And this is negotiated as part of standard 
call setup (same way as supported codecs).

My understanding so far has been that TextTelephony.Enabled=TRUE 
means that the CTM bit is set in all subsequent MO calls, and
it is set by default when answering to MT calls. And the one special 
case is receiving a CTM-enabled call when TTY is not enabled (in oFono). 
In this case it should be possible to enable TTY (for at least that
call) and respond to the call (and ifxmodem seems to provide support 
for this scenario).

This should be standard stuff to all modems as this is a heavily 
regulated feature.

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RE: [RFC 3/5] voicecall: Add ofono_voicecall_tty_notify api

2011-01-12 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Jeevaka,

   include/voicecall.h |2 ++
   src/voicecall.c |   12 
   2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
  
  diff --git a/include/voicecall.h b/include/voicecall.h index
  e37d73b..6f1bdd2 100644 --- a/include/voicecall.h
  +++ b/include/voicecall.h
  @@ -144,6 +144,8 @@ void ofono_voicecall_notify(struct
  ofono_voicecall *vc,  void ofono_voicecall_disconnected(struct
 ofono_voicecall *vc, int id, enum
 ofono_disconnect_reason
 reason, const struct ofono_error
 *error);
  +void ofono_voicecall_tty_notify(struct ofono_voicecall *vc,
  +  const struct ofono_call *call);
  
  what is the advantage of having this separate and not part of
  the regular voicecall_notify and just extending struct
  ofono_call with a field for TTY?
  
 
 Main reason for separate notification function is to avoid going through
 all
 the cases handled inside voicecall_notify. TTY field in ofono_call is
 basically
 for the GetProperties.

I see. So here is the main question that comes from this now. This seems
to be a bit IFX specific driven API. I still have no idea why they can
not just indicate this via +CRING and have to use CTM CALL for it.

Are we expecting that all modems will just establish a normal voice call
and only later on signal that it is a TTY call? Any input from different
vendors other than IFX. What about STE, ISI?

Regards

Marcel


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RE: [RFC 3/5] voicecall: Add ofono_voicecall_tty_notify api

2011-01-12 Thread Jeevaka.Badrappan
Hi Marcel,

ofono-boun...@ofono.org wrote:
 Main reason for separate notification function is to avoid going
 through all the cases handled inside voicecall_notify. TTY field in
 ofono_call is basically for the GetProperties.
 
 I see. So here is the main question that comes from this now.
 This seems to be a bit IFX specific driven API. I still have
 no idea why they can not just indicate this via +CRING and
 have to use CTM CALL for it.
 
 Are we expecting that all modems will just establish a normal
 voice call and only later on signal that it is a TTY call?
 Any input from different vendors other than IFX. What about STE, ISI?

This notification is to inform the ME that the call is accepted as a TTY
call
on the remote side.

Regards,
Jeevaka




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RE: [RFC 3/5] voicecall: Add ofono_voicecall_tty_notify api

2011-01-12 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Jeevaka,

  Main reason for separate notification function is to avoid going
  through all the cases handled inside voicecall_notify. TTY field in
  ofono_call is basically for the GetProperties.
  
  I see. So here is the main question that comes from this now.
  This seems to be a bit IFX specific driven API. I still have
  no idea why they can not just indicate this via +CRING and
  have to use CTM CALL for it.
  
  Are we expecting that all modems will just establish a normal
  voice call and only later on signal that it is a TTY call?
  Any input from different vendors other than IFX. What about STE, ISI?
 
 This notification is to inform the ME that the call is accepted as a TTY
 call
 on the remote side.

I see. Using a +X... IFX style notification would have been much nicer,
but so be it. The question still remains if all other modems do it
similar.

Btw. can you provide the mailing list with an example OFONO_AT_DEBUG=1
trace for a TTY call on IFX. I really like to see one of these.

Denis, do you want an extra voicecall_tty_notify() callback or just have
it go through the voicecall_notify() one?

Regards

Marcel


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Re: [RFC 3/5] voicecall: Add ofono_voicecall_tty_notify api

2011-01-12 Thread Denis Kenzior
Hi Marcel,

On 01/12/2011 10:48 AM, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
 Hi Jeevaka,
 
 Main reason for separate notification function is to avoid going
 through all the cases handled inside voicecall_notify. TTY field in
 ofono_call is basically for the GetProperties.

 I see. So here is the main question that comes from this now.
 This seems to be a bit IFX specific driven API. I still have
 no idea why they can not just indicate this via +CRING and
 have to use CTM CALL for it.

 Are we expecting that all modems will just establish a normal
 voice call and only later on signal that it is a TTY call?
 Any input from different vendors other than IFX. What about STE, ISI?

 This notification is to inform the ME that the call is accepted as a TTY
 call
 on the remote side.
 
 I see. Using a +X... IFX style notification would have been much nicer,
 but so be it. The question still remains if all other modems do it
 similar.
 
 Btw. can you provide the mailing list with an example OFONO_AT_DEBUG=1
 trace for a TTY call on IFX. I really like to see one of these.
 
 Denis, do you want an extra voicecall_tty_notify() callback or just have
 it go through the voicecall_notify() one?
 

If this is indeed a delayed handshake after the call has gone to active
state, then using a separate notification seems reasonable enough to me.

Regards,
-Denis
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Re: [RFC 3/5] voicecall: Add ofono_voicecall_tty_notify api

2011-01-11 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Jeevaka,

  include/voicecall.h |2 ++
  src/voicecall.c |   12 
  2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/include/voicecall.h b/include/voicecall.h
 index e37d73b..6f1bdd2 100644
 --- a/include/voicecall.h
 +++ b/include/voicecall.h
 @@ -144,6 +144,8 @@ void ofono_voicecall_notify(struct ofono_voicecall *vc,
  void ofono_voicecall_disconnected(struct ofono_voicecall *vc, int id,
   enum ofono_disconnect_reason reason,
   const struct ofono_error *error);
 +void ofono_voicecall_tty_notify(struct ofono_voicecall *vc,
 + const struct ofono_call *call);

what is the advantage of having this separate and not part of the
regular voicecall_notify and just extending struct ofono_call with a
field for TTY?

Regards

Marcel


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