Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13114 Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that pres
Oh! Right! It would mess up all the other siblings for a grid or layout. I forgot about that part. On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 6:38 AM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > That sounds problematic for grid and layout slices: although you could > adjust the child's x/y so that it doesn't move, all the other children > would, and if you similarly adjust all of their positions so that they > don't move either, well, the result is quite absurd. It would be a far > better idea to instead implement z-ordering of slices, which could be used > to cause one child to appear above the others, as well as an incredibly > diverse array of other uses. I want to implement that but I think > "z-ordering" is a problematic name, and I'm not sure how/whether it should > interact with existing walkabout and BattleSprite Z and slice autosorting. > > On Tue, 13 Sept 2022 at 22:02, James Paige > wrote: > >> I was tempted to also make "gently" versions of the commands like "slice >> to back" or "move slice above" but didn't get around to it. They would be >> useful for grids and layouts >> >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, 11:53 PM Ralph Versteegen >> wrote: >> >>> At least it's a convention, used consistently by all of two commands (I >>> think) :) >>> >>> Making up new jargon seems to be unavoidable. >>> >>> On Sat, 10 Sept 2022 at 12:22, James Paige via Ohrrpgce < >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >>> This might also be my new favorite terrible naming convention :D On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > james > 2022-09-09 17:21:42 -0700 (Fri, 09 Sep 2022) > 170 > Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that > preserves screen position > > This is similar to how slices are reparented in the slice collection > editor > --- > U wip/docs/plotdict.xml > U wip/docs/plotdictionary.html > U wip/plotscr.hsd > U wip/whatsnew.txt > > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13114 Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that pres
That sounds problematic for grid and layout slices: although you could adjust the child's x/y so that it doesn't move, all the other children would, and if you similarly adjust all of their positions so that they don't move either, well, the result is quite absurd. It would be a far better idea to instead implement z-ordering of slices, which could be used to cause one child to appear above the others, as well as an incredibly diverse array of other uses. I want to implement that but I think "z-ordering" is a problematic name, and I'm not sure how/whether it should interact with existing walkabout and BattleSprite Z and slice autosorting. On Tue, 13 Sept 2022 at 22:02, James Paige wrote: > I was tempted to also make "gently" versions of the commands like "slice > to back" or "move slice above" but didn't get around to it. They would be > useful for grids and layouts > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, 11:53 PM Ralph Versteegen > wrote: > >> At least it's a convention, used consistently by all of two commands (I >> think) :) >> >> Making up new jargon seems to be unavoidable. >> >> On Sat, 10 Sept 2022 at 12:22, James Paige via Ohrrpgce < >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >> >>> This might also be my new favorite terrible naming convention :D >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >>> james 2022-09-09 17:21:42 -0700 (Fri, 09 Sep 2022) 170 Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that preserves screen position This is similar to how slices are reparented in the slice collection editor --- U wip/docs/plotdict.xml U wip/docs/plotdictionary.html U wip/plotscr.hsd U wip/whatsnew.txt ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> ___ >>> Ohrrpgce mailing list >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >>> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> >> ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13114 Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that pres
I was tempted to also make "gently" versions of the commands like "slice to back" or "move slice above" but didn't get around to it. They would be useful for grids and layouts On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, 11:53 PM Ralph Versteegen wrote: > At least it's a convention, used consistently by all of two commands (I > think) :) > > Making up new jargon seems to be unavoidable. > > On Sat, 10 Sept 2022 at 12:22, James Paige via Ohrrpgce < > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > >> This might also be my new favorite terrible naming convention :D >> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >> >>> james >>> 2022-09-09 17:21:42 -0700 (Fri, 09 Sep 2022) >>> 170 >>> Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that >>> preserves screen position >>> >>> This is similar to how slices are reparented in the slice collection >>> editor >>> --- >>> U wip/docs/plotdict.xml >>> U wip/docs/plotdictionary.html >>> U wip/plotscr.hsd >>> U wip/whatsnew.txt >>> >>> ___ >>> Ohrrpgce mailing list >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >>> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> >> ___ >> Ohrrpgce mailing list >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >> > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13114 Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that pres
At least it's a convention, used consistently by all of two commands (I think) :) Making up new jargon seems to be unavoidable. On Sat, 10 Sept 2022 at 12:22, James Paige via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > This might also be my new favorite terrible naming convention :D > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > >> james >> 2022-09-09 17:21:42 -0700 (Fri, 09 Sep 2022) >> 170 >> Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that >> preserves screen position >> >> This is similar to how slices are reparented in the slice collection >> editor >> --- >> U wip/docs/plotdict.xml >> U wip/docs/plotdictionary.html >> U wip/plotscr.hsd >> U wip/whatsnew.txt >> >> ___ >> Ohrrpgce mailing list >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >> > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13114 Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that pres
This might also be my new favorite terrible naming convention :D On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > james > 2022-09-09 17:21:42 -0700 (Fri, 09 Sep 2022) > 170 > Add "gently reparent" command, alternative to "set parent" but that > preserves screen position > > This is similar to how slices are reparented in the slice collection editor > --- > U wip/docs/plotdict.xml > U wip/docs/plotdictionary.html > U wip/plotscr.hsd > U wip/whatsnew.txt > > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
