Re: [oi-dev] New BE every package update?
Hi, On 15.04.2012 22:54, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: On 15 Apr 2012, at 21:50, Milan Jurik wrote: The reality is that I am flooded with several new BEs per day. My grub list is increasing frequently. OK, I have to live with it :-) There's also: pkg --no-backup-be :-D Alan and Alasdair, thank you for hint. I was thinking pkg cannot surprise me anymore. I was mistaken :-) Best regards, Milan ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
[oi-dev] New BE every package update?
Hi, is it expected with the latest prestable that new backup BE is created even if minor binary is updated? $ pfexec pkg install scantailor Packages to update: 1 Create boot environment: Ne Create backup boot environment: Ano [...] $ pkg contents scantailor PATH usr usr/bin usr/bin/scantailor usr/bin/scantailor-cli usr/share usr/share/scantailor usr/share/scantailor/translations usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_bg.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_cs.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_de.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_es.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_fr.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_it.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_ja.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_pl.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_pt_BR.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_ru.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_sk.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_uk.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_zh_TW.qm $ beadm list BE Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created libhal - - 5,23G static 2012-03-27 20:46 nscd - - 675M static 2012-04-11 21:35 oi-install - - 18,0M static 2011-10-03 23:44 openindiana- - 18,9M static 2011-10-07 19:07 openindiana-5 - - 3,19G static 2012-02-17 20:51 openindiana-6 - - 29,0M static 2012-02-17 23:05 openindiana-7 NR / 29,4G static 2012-04-12 21:42 openindiana-7-backup-1 - - 6,32M static 2012-04-13 22:25 openindiana-7-backup-2 - - 220K static 2012-04-15 18:05 openindiana-7-backup-3 - - 215K static 2012-04-15 21:13 openindiana-7-backup-4 - - 225K static 2012-04-15 21:46 I was expecting BE snapshots through ZFS snapshots as it was. Not new BE. Best regards, Milan ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] New BE every package update?
Milan Jurik wrote: Hi, is it expected with the latest prestable that new backup BE is created even if minor binary is updated? Milan, That's how it works in Solaris 11, certainly. If the update will be straight into the running system, then the new BE is a snapshot before the update is applied. If the update will be into a new boot environment (requiring a reboot to activate), then the backup is the current boot environment which is unchanged by the update. Either way, you get a 'before' and an 'after' BE. I was expecting BE snapshots through ZFS snapshots as it was. Not new BE. How would you boot back to a ZFS snapshot if your update trashed the current BE? That's exactly what a BE is for (and it's little more than a ZFS snapshot anyway). -- Andrew ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] New BE every package update?
It is a kind of intimation on stability and usability of IPS and userland *trollface* 15.04.2012 23:51, Milan Jurik пишет: Hi, is it expected with the latest prestable that new backup BE is created even if minor binary is updated? $ pfexec pkg install scantailor Packages to update: 1 Create boot environment: Ne Create backup boot environment: Ano [...] $ pkg contents scantailor PATH usr usr/bin usr/bin/scantailor usr/bin/scantailor-cli usr/share usr/share/scantailor usr/share/scantailor/translations usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_bg.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_cs.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_de.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_es.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_fr.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_it.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_ja.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_pl.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_pt_BR.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_ru.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_sk.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_uk.qm usr/share/scantailor/translations/scantailor_zh_TW.qm $ beadm list BE Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created libhal - - 5,23G static 2012-03-27 20:46 nscd - - 675M static 2012-04-11 21:35 oi-install - - 18,0M static 2011-10-03 23:44 openindiana- - 18,9M static 2011-10-07 19:07 openindiana-5 - - 3,19G static 2012-02-17 20:51 openindiana-6 - - 29,0M static 2012-02-17 23:05 openindiana-7 NR / 29,4G static 2012-04-12 21:42 openindiana-7-backup-1 - - 6,32M static 2012-04-13 22:25 openindiana-7-backup-2 - - 220K static 2012-04-15 18:05 openindiana-7-backup-3 - - 215K static 2012-04-15 21:13 openindiana-7-backup-4 - - 225K static 2012-04-15 21:46 I was expecting BE snapshots through ZFS snapshots as it was. Not new BE. Best regards, Milan ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] New BE every package update?
Hi Andrew, Andrew Gabriel píše v ne 15. 04. 2012 v 21:27 +0100: Milan Jurik wrote: Hi, is it expected with the latest prestable that new backup BE is created even if minor binary is updated? Milan, That's how it works in Solaris 11, certainly. If the update will be straight into the running system, then the new BE is a snapshot before the update is applied. If the update will be into a new boot environment (requiring a reboot to activate), then the backup is the current boot environment which is unchanged by the update. Either way, you get a 'before' and an 'after' BE. I was expecting BE snapshots through ZFS snapshots as it was. Not new BE. How would you boot back to a ZFS snapshot if your update trashed the current BE? That's exactly what a BE is for (and it's little more than a ZFS snapshot anyway). I remembered there were ZFS snapshosts taken earlier, so it was (at least theoretically) possible to revert to some ZFS snapshot manually and I lived with last builds of Solaris only shortly so I missed this change. Previously only core bits were installed to new BE, no backup BE were created. The reality is that I am flooded with several new BEs per day. My grub list is increasing frequently. OK, I have to live with it :-) Best regards, Milan ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] New BE every package update?
On 15 Apr 2012, at 21:50, Milan Jurik wrote: The reality is that I am flooded with several new BEs per day. My grub list is increasing frequently. OK, I have to live with it :-) There's also: pkg --no-backup-be :-D ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] New BE every package update?
On 04/15/12 01:50 PM, Milan Jurik wrote: The reality is that I am flooded with several new BEs per day. My grub list is increasing frequently. OK, I have to live with it :-) Or you could use the --no-backup-be flag to pkg or beadm destroy the ones you know you'll never go back to. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
