Re: [oi-dev] dlc-origin (rsync) EOL?
On 2021-07-30 09:05, Marcel Telka wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:02:13PM -0300, Till Wegmueller wrote: I assume better means it can detect create a diff faster? No, this is not about the speed (primarily). Just about the quality of data published via the protocol. For example, with rsync I can be sure that timestamps are okay, for example. With ftp it usually works too, but http is not so good and there is possibility that I might end up re-downloading the same content again and again just because http might fail to advertise mtime change (or no change, to be precise). I can't help but add, that rsync is far more efficient overall. As it is only interested in differences (as already mentioned). Which results in less bytes transferred on both sides. Are the OI servers paying for bytes transferred (have a cap/limit)? This will also leave more bandwidth available for all. OK I don't run or manage the OI servers. But couldn't help myself. ;-) --Chris Over the years I switched all my mirrors to rsync from initial ftp (or http) just because of this. I can see the point. I also think a fast diff for mirroring is nice. I'll Thanks. Please let me know once there is rsync back. have a look in the future to see to get that going. For now please switch to HTTP(S) Sure, will do. Thank you. -- ~10yrs a FreeBSD maintainer of ~160 ports ~40yrs of UNIX 0xBDE49540.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] dlc-origin (rsync) EOL?
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 06:05:32PM +0200, Marcel Telka wrote: > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:02:13PM -0300, Till Wegmueller wrote: > > have a look in the future to see to get that going. For now please switch to > > HTTP(S) > > Sure, will do. I tried that, but no way. At least with https://dlc.openindiana.org/. The index.html page have hardcoded urls to dlc.openindiana.org, so wget won't download isos. Also, old ISOs are not reachable that way. Yes, I could switch to https://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/ as my mirror source, but that will skip other dirs (closed, dlc.sun.com). So without rsync (or ftp) the mirror seems to be very hard. :-( Thanks. -- +---+ | Marcel Telka e-mail: mar...@telka.sk | |homepage: http://telka.sk/ | +---+ ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] dlc-origin (rsync) EOL?
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:02:13PM -0300, Till Wegmueller wrote: > I assume better means it can detect create a diff faster? No, this is not about the speed (primarily). Just about the quality of data published via the protocol. For example, with rsync I can be sure that timestamps are okay, for example. With ftp it usually works too, but http is not so good and there is possibility that I might end up re-downloading the same content again and again just because http might fail to advertise mtime change (or no change, to be precise). Over the years I switched all my mirrors to rsync from initial ftp (or http) just because of this. > I can see the point. I also think a fast diff for mirroring is nice. I'll Thanks. Please let me know once there is rsync back. > have a look in the future to see to get that going. For now please switch to > HTTP(S) Sure, will do. Thank you. -- +---+ | Marcel Telka e-mail: mar...@telka.sk | |homepage: http://telka.sk/ | +---+ ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] dlc-origin (rsync) EOL?
Hi Marcel I assume better means it can detect create a diff faster? I can see the point. I also think a fast diff for mirroring is nice. I'll have a look in the future to see to get that going. For now please switch to HTTP(S) -Till On 30.07.21 11:43, Marcel Telka wrote: Hi Till, On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 10:46:40AM -0300, Till Wegmueller wrote: I am afraid you have to migrate. What are the benefits of having rsync for you? If i know what the idea is, I can see if we get something similar on the New Infrastructure. I used to use the dlc-origin rsync server as a source for my local mirror copy. After many years I do mirroring of various repos (various linux distros, OI, etc) I found that rsync is far far better than either http(s) or ftp as a mirror source. That said, the OI ISO rsync server is not critical for me, but it is really nice to have. OTOH, if there is no other way I can more or less easily switch to https://dlc.openindiana.org/ as my mirror source (although ftp would be better than http(s), but AFAIK there is no ftp for OI ISOs). Thanks. ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] dlc-origin (rsync) EOL?
Hi Till, On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 10:46:40AM -0300, Till Wegmueller wrote: > I am afraid you have to migrate. What are the benefits of having rsync for > you? If i know what the idea is, I can see if we get something similar on > the New Infrastructure. I used to use the dlc-origin rsync server as a source for my local mirror copy. After many years I do mirroring of various repos (various linux distros, OI, etc) I found that rsync is far far better than either http(s) or ftp as a mirror source. That said, the OI ISO rsync server is not critical for me, but it is really nice to have. OTOH, if there is no other way I can more or less easily switch to https://dlc.openindiana.org/ as my mirror source (although ftp would be better than http(s), but AFAIK there is no ftp for OI ISOs). Thanks. -- +---+ | Marcel Telka e-mail: mar...@telka.sk | |homepage: http://telka.sk/ | +---+ ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] dlc-origin (rsync) EOL?
Hi Marcel Everything is still in migration. As ISO's are onetime download So having rsync servers is not very usefull, as there is not much of a delta for each ISO. I am afraid you have to migrate. What are the benefits of having rsync for you? If i know what the idea is, I can see if we get something similar on the New Infrastructure. -Till On 30.07.21 05:35, Marcel Telka wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 08:23:49AM +0200, Marcel Telka wrote: That's sad because I used it for rsync mirror of ISOs. Is there any plan to provide (new) rsync server for ISOs? Does the silence means "no"? Thanks. ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] dlc-origin (rsync) EOL?
On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 08:23:49AM +0200, Marcel Telka wrote: > That's sad because I used it for rsync mirror of ISOs. Is there any > plan to provide (new) rsync server for ISOs? Does the silence means "no"? Thanks. -- +---+ | Marcel Telka e-mail: mar...@telka.sk | |homepage: http://telka.sk/ | +---+ ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
[oi-dev] dlc-origin (rsync) EOL?
Hi, I noticed that dlc-origin.openindiana.org disappeared from DNS some time ago (2 months or so) so it looks like it was EOLed. That's sad because I used it for rsync mirror of ISOs. Is there any plan to provide (new) rsync server for ISOs? Thanks. PS: rsync server at pkg-origin.openindiana.org still works. -- +---+ | Marcel Telka e-mail: mar...@telka.sk | |homepage: http://telka.sk/ | +---+ ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
