[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #60 from Wren Turkal  ---
Hi,

OP here. I wanted to reach out and thank you for fixing this issue much more
comprehensively than I imagined when I originally filled the issue.


Thanks,
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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #59 from Albert Astals Cid  ---
This won't be anymore the case starting with the Okular that will be part of
KDE Applications 17.12 (aka okular 1.3.0)

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--- Comment #58 from Albert Astals Cid  ---
For people that have an idea how to compile and test stuff, please test
https://phabricator.kde.org/D8642

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #57 from Luigi Toscano  ---
I'm not sure that highlighting the fact that someone is a KDE devleoper here is
a good idea.
If I comment in a bug of a component which I never touched, I'm not sure why
that comment should have some sort of special marking.

That said, we are off-topic here; the place to discuss this is the
kde-community@ mailing list.

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #56 from Nate Graham  ---
Definitely a good idea. Technically I'm a KDE developer too even though I don't
have or use a @kde.org email address. Can you file a bug to that effect on
https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=bugs.kde.org?

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #55 from sparhawk  ---
> we know it needs improvement and we're working in a fix.

To be fair to the other commenters, we hadn't heard anything here for a few
years, so I presumed that the devs were *not* working on a fix. Sometimes KDE
bugs tend to drift around for a few years before being abruptly closed as
"won't fix", so I can understand why people continue to complain.

Also, I was also unaware that you were even a dev until I mouse-overed your
name and saw the @kde.org email address just then. I guess that's a fault of
this website though; a visible dev tag similar to GitHub would be useful.

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--- Comment #54 from Albert Astals Cid  ---
Please, stop complaining, complaining doesn't do anyone any good, we know it
needs improvement and we're working in a fix.

If you want to get it fixed earlier, either volunteer to help with the fix or
hire someone to fix it faster.

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Yuri]

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--- Comment #53 from Yuri  ---
(In reply to Ross Boylan from comment #52)
> I don't want my previous response to be taken as a vote for the status quo. 
> The behavior I would expect is:

Saving form data into the file is the behavior prescribed by pdf specification.
Leaving form files in any other place has so many disadvantages that it doesn't
even make sense to list them.


It's amazing this isn't fixed for 6.5 years now.

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #52 from Ross Boylan  ---
I don't want my previous response to be taken as a vote for the status quo. 
The behavior I would expect is:

1. If I don't hit save my work disappears.(*)  The current application does not
have a save function (as distinct from save as), and I'm pretty sure that if I
fill in a form, exit, and then open the form my old values will still be there.
 Worse, if someone else using the same account opens the form, they will see my
info.

2. If I do save (not just save as) my work will be saved with the file.

In this case I might not expect, but would be pleased if 
3. there were an option to save the form data to a separate file and restore it
from a separate file.  I'd guess such a facility is consistent with the 1600
page XFA spec, though I can't say I know where :)

Because the current behavior violates these expectations, it is a security
risk.   Someone's personal information may be exposed in ways unanticipated,
and operations that usually assure security, like not saving a file or deleting
it, will not work.  And operations that are expected to reveal info, like
copying/mailing a pdf or operating on it with a different program, may instead
conceal/disappear the information.

(*) Some usability experts argue that "work disappears if I don't save" is not
the expectation of the lay user, and that our current model of "you must save
to keep your work" is aggravating and unintuitive to them.  That may well be
correct.  But unless the surrounding programs all start behaving this way, this
behavior is undesirable.  An application that may be dealing with sensitive
private information is not the place to pioneer new interface models.

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #51 from Ross Boylan  ---
(In reply to lutz.wrage from comment #50)
> Is there any use case that justifies storing form data in
> ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/ given that the same data can be stored in
> the pdf itself? 
> It seems to me that there isn't.

While I consider the current behavior undesirable, it does have its advantages.
 In fact, it's the reason I decided to use okular for my taxes.  Here's the use
case:

1. Generate some forms automatically (e.g., opentaxsolver computes my taxes and
fills in government  forms).
2. Resulting forms require some manual tweaks (e.g., check boxes, fill in
additional fields).
3. Discover forms need to be regenerated to correct a mistake.  Modify inputs
and return to 1.

In this scenario, the work in 2 is lost if the results have been stored in the
pdf, but is retained if the values are stored elsewhere, as okular currently
does.  Even if the pdf in 2 is saved under a different name, so that the
results are not literally lost, one must manually identify the changed
information and reenter it.

There is another scenario in which the recreation of the information is less
desirable.  If some of the manually entered information in 2 depends on the
values from 1, e.g., you manually enter line 55 as a copy of line 32 but the
automatically generated line 32 changes, then the previous manual data may be
invalid.

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #50 from lutz.wr...@gmail.com ---
Is there any use case that justifies storing form data in
~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/ given that the same data can be stored in the
pdf itself? 
It seems to me that there isn't.

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[okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #48 from Niels Elgaard  ---
Today I received a PDF with forms filled in, that I had to forward as a normal
PDF (using "save as" or print to PDF file). Some fields worked as expected. But
some were missing in the resulting PDF.

After quite some time I tried editing every single form field, ending up with
the same values as before, and then printing to to PDF. Then everything
working, i.e. all form fields were saved to the PDF file.

I use Okular 0.25,  Platform 4.14.23

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Yuri via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #47 from Yuri  ---
Ah, I see. I didn't realize the pdf form-saving code was even there. This makes
the situation much better than I thought.

Thanks for clarifying this!

Somebody should just remove the code writing under ~/.kde4/share/apps/okular/

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[Aaron Wolf via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #46 from Aaron Wolf  ---
@Yuri, Carsten was saying that the current Okular behavior *does* save data
directly to the PDF *if* you use "save as" but otherwise not. The problem
remaining is that it also saves to a hidden directory as well, and then
conflicts and security issues can arise from that.

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[Yuri via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #45 from Yuri  ---
(In reply to Carsten Gräser from comment #44)
> I gave a very detailed explanation of "in principle". just try out as
> described above.

I don't know what are you talking about. You don't make yourself clear.

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[Carsten Gräser via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #44 from Carsten Gräser  ---
(In reply to Yuri from comment #43)
> (In reply to Carsten Gräser from comment #42)
> > Yuri, this is not correct. Okular can in principle save the data to the pdf.
> > But the interplay of this with saving to and loading from .kde/... is not
> > very intuitive.
> 
> What does it mean "can in principle"? Is the code saving it to the pdf there
> or not there? If it is there, can you send the link (line numbers)?
I gave a very detailed explanation of "in principle". just try out as described
above.

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[Yuri via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #43 from Yuri  ---
(In reply to Carsten Gräser from comment #42)
> Yuri, this is not correct. Okular can in principle save the data to the pdf.
> But the interplay of this with saving to and loading from .kde/... is not
> very intuitive.

What does it mean "can in principle"? Is the code saving it to the pdf there or
not there? If it is there, can you send the link (line numbers)?

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[Carsten Gräser via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #42 from Carsten Gräser  ---
Yuri, this is not correct. Okular can in principle save the data to the pdf.
But the interplay of this with saving to and loading from .kde/... is not very
intuitive.

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[Yuri via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #41 from Yuri  ---
(In reply to Carsten Gräser from comment #40)
> Since I stumbled about this again: The following minor changes would
> increase usability of forms a lot since they make the behaviour of Okular
> more transparent.
> 
> a) Add a menu entry "save form data" that makes Okular store the data in the
> file itself.
> b) When the user tries to close a filled in form without explicitly saving
> it: Warn the user that the form data is not stores in the file (but only
> cached somewhere else) and ask if she/he want's to save now.
> c) Always give precedence to data saved in the file itself.

Carsten, the problem is that there is no code that saves to a file. There
should be two choices:
* Saving to a pdf file itself
* Saving to a separate pdf file (according to the pdf spec)
But somebody for some unknown reason implemented writing it in the proprietary
format into ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/ that makes okular unusable for
filling forms. Nobody needs the function to save forms under ~/.kde

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[Carsten Gräser via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #40 from Carsten Gräser  ---
Since I stumbled about this again: The following minor changes would increase
usability of forms a lot since they make the behaviour of Okular more
transparent.

a) Add a menu entry "save form data" that makes Okular store the data in the
file itself.
b) When the user tries to close a filled in form without explicitly saving it:
Warn the user that the form data is not stores in the file (but only cached
somewhere else) and ask if she/he want's to save now.
c) Always give precedence to data saved in the file itself.

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[Carsten Gräser via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #39 from Carsten Gräser  ---
I also stumbled about the fact that it seems to be impossible to have multiple
instances of the same filled in form under the same file name and got the
impression that "Save as..." does not work. After some experimenting I found
out the problem with "Save as...":

There's two places where form data is stored: .kde/* and the pdf-file itself.
Data is always saved to .kde/* (attached to filename?). If you use "Save as"
it's also stored to the file. The problem is that this is not visible to the
user and that .kde/* seems to have precedence. If you want to fill the same
form twice you can easily run into problems:

Case a: Since form data is visible after closing, reopening, or moving the
file, the user assumes that it's stored inside of the pdf. To fill a form a
second time he copies the filled in form into a new location and changes the
necessary data. Everything seems to work, but if he reopens the original file
all it's data is changed to what he entered in the new place.

Case b: The user is aware that data is stored in the file only if he used "Save
as". After filling the form the first time he uses "Save as". To fill the form
a second time he copies the filled in form into a new location and changes the
necessary data and uses "Save as" again. Now different data is saved in both
versions of the file. But if he opens version 1 again, he sees the changes he
did in version 2. The reason for this is that by changing version 2, the data
in .kde/* is changed and this seems to have precedence when viewing version 1.
If you delete th corresponding file in .kde/* you see what's stored in the
file.

In both cases the user seems to have lost data. In a) this is true, in b) his
data is just not visible.

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[Albert Astals Cid via KDE Bugzilla]

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[Yuri]

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--- Comment #36 from Yuri y...@tsoft.com ---
Real problem is that okular violates pdf specification: section 8.6.6 Forms
Data Format of PDF reference:
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/pdf/PDFReference16.pdf

The standard way to store forms is to write the form data into the special
section in the same pdf file.

Current way is prone to data loss and confusion, because users will send out
the pdf assuming that form is there, when it isn't. Currently form data is
implicitly attached to the current pdf file name, which is counter-intuitive.

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*** Bug 343852 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Yuri]

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--- Comment #37 from Yuri y...@tsoft.com ---
I would put the high priority on this, because the major user visible function
malfunctions due to misimplementation.

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--- Comment #34 from sparhawk kdeb...@plast.id.au ---
I've used save a copy accidentally, not realising that this was fundamentally
different to save as. In a lot of programs these both create a new file, but
the former leaves you editing the original, while the latter allows to keep
editing the newly created file.

Anyway, I've now realised that there is potentially a lot of private data (e.g.
credit card information) stored in plain text on my computer. It seems that
some of the information in ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/ is about the
last-used zoom/position of documents? How can I find which of these documents
contains form data?

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Aaron Wolf]

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--- Comment #33 from Aaron Wolf wolft...@gmail.com ---

 It seems that poppler libraries in your system are too old (Okular itself is
 up-to-date). You need to install at least poppler-0.20 (or better 0.22) to
 have reliable forms and annotation editor which can save the data in PDF.
 Try to find some PPA with newer version (Debian Sid has 0.18.4, Ubuntu 13.04
 has 0.20.5 and Ubuntu 13.10 has 0.24.1). Sorry.
 
 Please take into account that some other applications (e.g. Inkscape) can be
 dependent on the old version of poppler, so the safest way is to build and
 install libraries on your own (it is not hard at all, so they do not break
 anything).

Oh how strange, thank you. I will figure this out! Sorry to have made
assumptions about things…

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

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--- Comment #29 from Aaron Wolf wolft...@gmail.com ---
This is obnoxious. My partner sent me a file with forms filled. I changed them.
There's NO WAY to keep having editable forms and send her back the file with
the changes!

I tried save as and still get the old data there. I had to do it as a print,
which means she then manually updates in her program.

This situation is horrible.

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Yuri Chornoivan]

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--- Comment #30 from Yuri Chornoivan yurc...@ukr.net ---
(In reply to comment #29)
 This is obnoxious. My partner sent me a file with forms filled. I changed
 them. There's NO WAY to keep having editable forms and send her back the
 file with the changes!
 
 I tried save as and still get the old data there. I had to do it as a
 print, which means she then manually updates in her program.
 
 This situation is horrible.

This is not the way to report bugs. Please give developers some information
about your system (name and version), version of Okular and version of Poppler
libraries (can be determined with pdftops -v command in console or using your
favorite package manager).

BTW, just works here (even for XFA documents if Foxit reader used).

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Aaron Wolf]

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--- Comment #31 from Aaron Wolf wolft...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #30)
 (In reply to comment #29)
  This is obnoxious. My partner sent me a file with forms filled. I changed
  them. There's NO WAY to keep having editable forms and send her back the
  file with the changes!
  
  I tried save as and still get the old data there. I had to do it as a
  print, which means she then manually updates in her program.
  
  This situation is horrible.
 
 This is not the way to report bugs. Please give developers some information
 about your system (name and version), version of Okular and version of
 Poppler libraries (can be determined with pdftops -v command in console or
 using your favorite package manager).
 
 BTW, just works here (even for XFA documents if Foxit reader used).

Sorry, I just assumed this was the same as the original bug, i.e. an
intentional and flawed design. I didn't think this was behaving differently
from intended, I thought the issue was simply that the intention was a bad one.

If you intend it to actually work reasonably (which I'd hope), and it is
something about my system, well: I'm on KXStudio, which is a derivative of
Ubuntu. I'm using standard KDE 4.11.2 and Okular 0.17.2 and pdftops 0.18.4.

To clarify: if I open and change the forms myself, they persist on my machine.
If I send the form as an e-mail to someone else, they lose my form changes. If
I save as on my own machine, the new file reverts to the old form data and
loses my changes even on my machine. Note that this is a case where the file I
got from someone else started with some form data already, entered in some
program other than Okular, and I was changing it.

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Fabio D'Urso]

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--- Comment #27 from Fabio D'Urso fabiodu...@hotmail.it ---
Created attachment 80666
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XFA-warning

(In reply to comment #23)
 Created attachment 80639 [details]
 File for which forms only appear in Okular, not Adobe Reader
Yes, it's known issue. Basically that file uses a newer format to store form
data, which is currently unsupported by poppler (and probably won't be for a
long time, because it's very complex).
However, Okular from 4.10 with poppler 0.22 should warn you (see attached
screen), doesn't it?

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[Rajiv Gupta]

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--- Comment #23 from Rajiv Gupta diffg...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 80639
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File for which forms only appear in Okular, not Adobe Reader

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--- Comment #22 from Rajiv Gupta diffg...@gmail.com ---
I used save as, but I think it only happens with some PDF files. The tax form
works perfectly, but I am attaching a file for which the filled out forms only
appear in Okular, but not Adobe Reader.

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--- Comment #25 from Rajiv Gupta diffg...@gmail.com ---
I am attaching the same form filled with Adobe.

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[Rajiv Gupta]

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--- Comment #26 from Rajiv Gupta diffg...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 80647
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Same form filled out in Adobe

This form opens in both Okular and Adobe.

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--- Comment #20 from Rajiv Gupta diffg...@gmail.com ---
It seems that when I fill out a form with Okular (with poppler 0.22), it opens
in Okular when I rename it or move it to another computer. But no matter what,
it doesn't open in Adobe Reader.

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Yuri Chornoivan]

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--- Comment #21 from Yuri Chornoivan yurc...@ukr.net ---
(In reply to comment #20)
 It seems that when I fill out a form with Okular (with poppler 0.22), it
 opens in Okular when I rename it or move it to another computer. But no
 matter what, it doesn't open in Adobe Reader.

Please use File - Save as... to save filled data with your PDF file.

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Albert Astals Cid]

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--- Comment #19 from Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org ---
Marcus i can't help you here, i've proven it works as it has worked for a long
time to be honest i should close this bug since it's basically a weird worded
bug and people is just commenting on it with unrelated comments, if it doesn't
work for you, you're doing something wrong or opensuse compiled something
wrong, but not sure how can i help you debug it.

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[Albert Astals Cid]

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--- Comment #14 from Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org ---
Oh no, 0.22 works too, i just created it with 0.23 because it was what i had
installed, let me attach one created with 0.22

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[Albert Astals Cid]

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--- Comment #15 from Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org ---
Created attachment 78638
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Filled file with poppler 0.22

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Marcus Furlong]

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--- Comment #16 from Marcus Furlong furlo...@gmail.com ---
The must be something different in our environments then. I'm using opensuse
12.3, okular 0.16.0 on KDE 4.10.0. Is there a compile-time option to enable
this in poppler or okular?

I downloaded your second attachment and I can see the form data you have
entered. I add my own form data and save, and when I close okular and reopen
the same file, the text is there. But my text is saved externally. If I do the
following, the form data reverts to your text

 mv morsa.pdf morsa1.pdf
 okular morsa1.pdf

and the form data I had saved is only visible in
.kde4/share/apps/okular/docdata/107650.morsa.pdf.xml

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[Albert Astals Cid]

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--- Comment #8 from Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org ---
Marcus your problem has nothing to do with this bug, Warren is complaining
about the data leakage into his own home folder.

What you are facing has nothing to do with this. So please open a separate bug
about it.

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 267350] filling out a PDF form saves data to some file i ~/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/

[Warren Turkal]

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--- Comment #9 from Warren Turkal w...@penguintechs.org ---
To quote my original description:

Expected Results:
The user should be able to Save as... to a new file and just have a copy of
the PDF with the filled in form data.

I believe this is exactly what Marcus was asking for.

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[Albert Astals Cid]

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--- Comment #10 from Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org ---
Then you used a wrong subject and i decided to ignore this bug, Save as...
should and does work here, please, i'm attaching a filled in (just the first
two lines) with okular of the file you attached that opens fine in Adobe Reader
and shows the data

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--- Comment #11 from Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org ---
Created attachment 78620
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Filled in file

With Hola and Pepe in the first two lines

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[Albert Astals Cid]

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--- Comment #12 from Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org ---
FWIW that filled in file was created with poppler 0.23 and can't be opened with
0.22 or older :-/ But that's a bug of those old versions, you can open it with
Adobe Reader to see it working

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[Marcus Furlong]

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--- Comment #13 from Marcus Furlong furlo...@gmail.com ---
It's the same bug, just a different title. Instead of saving the form data to
the PDF, it gets saved externally.

Happy to hear it's solved in a newer version of poppler. 0.23 is the
development branch of what will become 0.24?

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