Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS KVM on AMD Processor

2014-08-23 Thread Robert Treat
I believe the last serious effort was at 
https://github.com/jclulow/illumos-kvm, but as mentioned that's a few years on 
now (but still probably the best starting point). Personally, I don't really 
see AMD support coming to illumos KVM anytime soon given the lack of people 
willing to contribute either effort or funding to it; I can say we have no 
plans to work on it in the near future (we run on Intel)


Robert Treat

On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Suleyman Nazif Kutlu
 wrote:

> Thanks Josef, I could not find/hear any positive / negative feedback on
> Internet about KVM AMD support on Illumos based OSes (OmniOS, SmartOS, etc)
> neither.
> So this is what I was afraid of. Now I will switch back to backup plan ZOL
> on Ubuntu / Debian :(
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek 
> wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 04:02:26PM +0200, Suleyman Nazif Kutlu wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I am brand new to OmniOS. Reading some documentation on Internet I found
>> > out that on Illumos based OSes KVM is only supported on Intel processors.
>> > Is this true for OmniOS as well?
>> >
>> > I am planning to use OmniOS on an AMD processor server with ZFS+KVM+Zones
>> > as a virtualization host for some personal Web Servers, databases, Home
>> > Fileserver, Multimedia Streaming, etc..
>> >
>> > I started with Ubuntu+KVM several years ago, then migrated to ESXi 5.x...
>> > Now I want to use ZFS as well. This is main reason for me to start
>> thinking
>> > about Illumos based OSes.
>> >
>> > Although ZOL is available on Ubuntu, I believe, as many others on
>> Internet,
>> > ZFS on Illumos based OSes are more mature then ZOL.
>> >
>> > If this works on AMD processor, I will start migrations as soon as
>> > possible...
>>
>> Unless OmniTI managed to get that working (I haven't heard about anything
>> like that), the answer is still "no, only Intel is supported".  There have
>> been attempts at getting AMD support going, but I think everyone involved
>> gave up.
>>
>> Jeff.
>>
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS KVM on AMD Processor

2014-08-23 Thread Jim Klimov
23 августа 2014 г. 16:42:04 CEST, Suleyman Nazif Kutlu  
пишет:
>Thanks Josef, I could not find/hear any positive / negative feedback on
>Internet about KVM AMD support on Illumos based OSes (OmniOS, SmartOS,
>etc)
>neither.
>
>So this is what I was afraid of. Now I will switch back to backup plan
>ZOL
>on Ubuntu / Debian :(
>
>
>On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
>
>wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 04:02:26PM +0200, Suleyman Nazif Kutlu wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I am brand new to OmniOS. Reading some documentation on Internet I
>found
>> > out that on Illumos based OSes KVM is only supported on Intel
>processors.
>> > Is this true for OmniOS as well?
>> >
>> > I am planning to use OmniOS on an AMD processor server with
>ZFS+KVM+Zones
>> > as a virtualization host for some personal Web Servers, databases,
>Home
>> > Fileserver, Multimedia Streaming, etc..
>> >
>> > I started with Ubuntu+KVM several years ago, then migrated to ESXi
>5.x...
>> > Now I want to use ZFS as well. This is main reason for me to start
>> thinking
>> > about Illumos based OSes.
>> >
>> > Although ZOL is available on Ubuntu, I believe, as many others on
>> Internet,
>> > ZFS on Illumos based OSes are more mature then ZOL.
>> >
>> > If this works on AMD processor, I will start migrations as soon as
>> > possible...
>>
>> Unless OmniTI managed to get that working (I haven't heard about
>anything
>> like that), the answer is still "no, only Intel is supported".  There
>have
>> been attempts at getting AMD support going, but I think everyone
>involved
>> gave up.
>>
>> Jeff.
>>
>> --
>> Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them
>> - Albert Einstein
>>
>
>
>
>
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Another backup plan worth consideration might be to use another hypervisor over 
a true illumos core, i.e. VirtualBox?
At the very least, you would also have flexible networking, benefits of ZFS and 
SMF integration (see http://vboxsvc.sf.net for my shameless plug), as well as 
ability to group VMs into local zones to run and resource-control whole 
independent labs, demo clusters in different datacenters, etc.

Reports vary as to whether KVM is better (might be, being a kernel service), 
but certaintly VBox has its good place in the ecosystem.

HTH, Jim
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] LSI SAS3041e-HP

2014-08-23 Thread Eric Sproul
That generation of LSI adapters (based on SAS1064/1068 controller
chip) is supported by the legacy, closed-source "mpt" driver.  Is the
mpt driver attaching to the device at all? `modinfo | grep mpt`

If not, you might try adding its PCI ID as another alias for mpt.
You'd do that with update_drv(1M).  Check `prtconf -d` to find the ID.
If it is attaching, but the drives are not, it could well be a
firmware issue.  The "-HP" in the part name makes me suspicious that
it could have a custom HP firmware, so re-flashing it with stock LSI
firmware would be a good first step.

Note that our mpt driver, being closed-source, will never see any
further development.  If you can get your hands on a SAS2 adapter,
those are supported by the open-source (and still-developed)
mpt_sas(7D).  Good choices include those based on the SAS200{4,8} and
SAS230{4,8}, as they can have the IT firmware.  Avoid SAS210x because
they are IR-only.  The IBM M1015 is a popular version, based on the
SAS2008 chip.

Eric
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS KVM on AMD Processor

2014-08-23 Thread Suleyman Nazif Kutlu
Thanks Josef, I could not find/hear any positive / negative feedback on
Internet about KVM AMD support on Illumos based OSes (OmniOS, SmartOS, etc)
neither.

So this is what I was afraid of. Now I will switch back to backup plan ZOL
on Ubuntu / Debian :(


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek 
wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 04:02:26PM +0200, Suleyman Nazif Kutlu wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am brand new to OmniOS. Reading some documentation on Internet I found
> > out that on Illumos based OSes KVM is only supported on Intel processors.
> > Is this true for OmniOS as well?
> >
> > I am planning to use OmniOS on an AMD processor server with ZFS+KVM+Zones
> > as a virtualization host for some personal Web Servers, databases, Home
> > Fileserver, Multimedia Streaming, etc..
> >
> > I started with Ubuntu+KVM several years ago, then migrated to ESXi 5.x...
> > Now I want to use ZFS as well. This is main reason for me to start
> thinking
> > about Illumos based OSes.
> >
> > Although ZOL is available on Ubuntu, I believe, as many others on
> Internet,
> > ZFS on Illumos based OSes are more mature then ZOL.
> >
> > If this works on AMD processor, I will start migrations as soon as
> > possible...
>
> Unless OmniTI managed to get that working (I haven't heard about anything
> like that), the answer is still "no, only Intel is supported".  There have
> been attempts at getting AMD support going, but I think everyone involved
> gave up.
>
> Jeff.
>
> --
> Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them
> - Albert Einstein
>
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS KVM on AMD Processor

2014-08-23 Thread Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 04:02:26PM +0200, Suleyman Nazif Kutlu wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am brand new to OmniOS. Reading some documentation on Internet I found
> out that on Illumos based OSes KVM is only supported on Intel processors.
> Is this true for OmniOS as well?
> 
> I am planning to use OmniOS on an AMD processor server with ZFS+KVM+Zones
> as a virtualization host for some personal Web Servers, databases, Home
> Fileserver, Multimedia Streaming, etc..
> 
> I started with Ubuntu+KVM several years ago, then migrated to ESXi 5.x...
> Now I want to use ZFS as well. This is main reason for me to start thinking
> about Illumos based OSes.
> 
> Although ZOL is available on Ubuntu, I believe, as many others on Internet,
> ZFS on Illumos based OSes are more mature then ZOL.
> 
> If this works on AMD processor, I will start migrations as soon as
> possible...

Unless OmniTI managed to get that working (I haven't heard about anything
like that), the answer is still "no, only Intel is supported".  There have
been attempts at getting AMD support going, but I think everyone involved
gave up.

Jeff.

-- 
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- Albert Einstein
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[OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS KVM on AMD Processor

2014-08-23 Thread Suleyman Nazif Kutlu
Hi all,

I am brand new to OmniOS. Reading some documentation on Internet I found
out that on Illumos based OSes KVM is only supported on Intel processors.
Is this true for OmniOS as well?

I am planning to use OmniOS on an AMD processor server with ZFS+KVM+Zones
as a virtualization host for some personal Web Servers, databases, Home
Fileserver, Multimedia Streaming, etc..

I started with Ubuntu+KVM several years ago, then migrated to ESXi 5.x...
Now I want to use ZFS as well. This is main reason for me to start thinking
about Illumos based OSes.

Although ZOL is available on Ubuntu, I believe, as many others on Internet,
ZFS on Illumos based OSes are more mature then ZOL.

If this works on AMD processor, I will start migrations as soon as
possible...

Thanks in advance.
-Suleyman Kutlu
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] LSI SAS3041e-HP

2014-08-23 Thread Matthew Lagoe
On that page there is SAS3041ER_ 
Package_P21_IR_IT_Firmware_BIOS_for_MSDOS_Windows

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On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:46:00 -0300
Fábio Rabelo  wrote:

> Someone knows where I can find bios/firmware for IT mode that can work 
> on this card ?
> 
Maybe?
http://www.lsi.com/support/pages/download-results.aspx?component=Storage+Component&productfamily=Legacy+Host+Bus+Adapters&productcode=P00056&assettype=Firmware&productname=LSI+SAS+3041E-R

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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] LSI SAS3041e-HP

2014-08-23 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:46:00 -0300
Fábio Rabelo  wrote:

> Someone knows where I can find bios/firmware for IT mode that can work
> on this card ?
> 
Maybe?
http://www.lsi.com/support/pages/download-results.aspx?component=Storage+Component&productfamily=Legacy+Host+Bus+Adapters&productcode=P00056&assettype=Firmware&productname=LSI+SAS+3041E-R

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[OmniOS-discuss] LSI SAS3041e-HP

2014-08-23 Thread Fábio Rabelo
Hi to all

Finaly I got my hands in this card, an LSI SAS3041e-HP

http://mlb-s1-p.mlstatic.com/lsi-3041e-hp-4-portas-pci-e-3gbs-sas-sata-2-raid-low-prof-16467-MLB20121375810_072014-O.jpg

But Omni are not recognising any disk connected to it !

Linux does .

So the card are working, its bios shows-up during boot .

Must be Bios/firmware related .

But I do not find anything in the "unraid" sites about this card .

Someone knows where I can find bios/firmware for IT mode that can work
on this card ?

Thanks in advance ...


Fábio Rabelo
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