Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS considered in-memory OS ?

2015-06-28 Thread Richard Elling

> On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:47 AM, John Barfield  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been interested in configuring omnios to run in memory off of a ram 
> disk myself. 
> 
> Does anyone know where you could find a good guide for booting Solaris(h) 
> kernel into memory with a ramdisk?

:-)
the funny thing is that SunOS has been bootable into ramdisk since... forever.
Back in the day, before CDs were invented, we booted from tape or (if you really
hated yourself) floppies :-). Net-net, this probably isn't documented anywhere, 
per se,
outside of the building shell scripts :-(

The way it works is to produce an image of a file system. Add that to a boot 
loader
and instruct the boot loader to put it in memory and run. The actual work is to 
produce
the image, and this is where the build scripts comes into play. You can 
certainly take
an OmniOS build and produce an in-memory root, however, the missing management
part is handling the persistence of identity. For that, it is useful to see how 
SmartOS
handles /var and files normally modified in /etc.
 -- richard

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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS considered in-memory OS ?

2015-06-27 Thread John Barfield
I’m booting off of a pair SLC USB sticks today. 

They’re extremely fast boot still not as fast as SmartOS running in 
memory. 

I guess I’ll do some googling to get omni running in memory :p


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On 6/26/15, 9:23 PM, "Bob Friesenhahn"  
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Günther Alka wrote:
>
>> booting from a good pair of 32 GB USB sticks is possible.
>> (Turn off atime)
>> 
>> But I would prefer a pair of 32 GB DOMs like
>> http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/SATADOM.cfm
>
>The next big thing seems to be M.2 PCIe cards, which are a whole lot 
>faster.  Hopefully they will work with OmniOS.  I have two Samsung 
>SM951s on the way for use as boot drives (over-kill) ...
>
>Bob
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS considered in-memory OS ?

2015-06-26 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Günther Alka wrote:


booting from a good pair of 32 GB USB sticks is possible.
(Turn off atime)

But I would prefer a pair of 32 GB DOMs like
http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/SATADOM.cfm


The next big thing seems to be M.2 PCIe cards, which are a whole lot 
faster.  Hopefully they will work with OmniOS.  I have two Samsung 
SM951s on the way for use as boot drives (over-kill) ...


Bob
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS considered in-memory OS ?

2015-06-26 Thread Günther Alka
booting from a good pair of 32 GB USB sticks is possible.
(Turn off atime)

But I would prefer a pair of 32 GB DOMs like
http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/SATADOM.cfm 




> Am 26.06.2015 um 17:47 schrieb John Barfield :
> 
> I’ve been interested in configuring omnios to run in memory off of a ram 
> disk myself. 
> 
> Does anyone know where you could find a good guide for booting Solaris(h) 
> kernel into memory with a ramdisk?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Barfield / Sr Principal Engineer
> +1 (214) 425-0783/ john.barfi...@bissinc.com
> BISS, Inc. Office: +1 (214) 506-8354 
> 
> 4925 Greenville Ave Suite 900
> Dallas, TX 75206
> support.bissinc.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/26/15, 10:15 AM, "Dan McDonald"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Mick Burns  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As per current wikipedia entry for SmartOS,  we can read the following :
>>> 
>>> "SmartOS is an in-memory operating system and boots directly into
>>> random access memory. It supports various boot mechanisms such as
>>> booting off of universal serial bus thumbdrive, ISO Image, or over the
>>> network via PXE boot."
>>> 
>>> Does this statement applies to OmniOS as well ?
>> 
>> No.  We boot off of traditional media.
>> 
>>> Ultimately, what I need to know is if OmniOS is good fit to run OS off
>>> a pair of either internal SDcards or good quality USB sticks ?
>> 
>> As shipped, no.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS considered in-memory OS ?

2015-06-26 Thread John Barfield
I’ve been interested in configuring omnios to run in memory off of a ram 
disk myself. 

Does anyone know where you could find a good guide for booting Solaris(h) 
kernel into memory with a ramdisk?




John Barfield / Sr Principal Engineer
+1 (214) 425-0783/ john.barfi...@bissinc.com
BISS, Inc. Office: +1 (214) 506-8354 

4925 Greenville Ave Suite 900
Dallas, TX 75206
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On 6/26/15, 10:15 AM, "Dan McDonald"  wrote:

>
>> On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Mick Burns  wrote:
>> 
>> As per current wikipedia entry for SmartOS,  we can read the following :
>> 
>> "SmartOS is an in-memory operating system and boots directly into
>> random access memory. It supports various boot mechanisms such as
>> booting off of universal serial bus thumbdrive, ISO Image, or over the
>> network via PXE boot."
>> 
>> Does this statement applies to OmniOS as well ?
>
>No.  We boot off of traditional media.
>
>> Ultimately, what I need to know is if OmniOS is good fit to run OS off
>> a pair of either internal SDcards or good quality USB sticks ?
>
>As shipped, no.
>
>Dan
>
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS considered in-memory OS ?

2015-06-26 Thread Dan McDonald

> On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Mick Burns  wrote:
> 
> As per current wikipedia entry for SmartOS,  we can read the following :
> 
> "SmartOS is an in-memory operating system and boots directly into
> random access memory. It supports various boot mechanisms such as
> booting off of universal serial bus thumbdrive, ISO Image, or over the
> network via PXE boot."
> 
> Does this statement applies to OmniOS as well ?

No.  We boot off of traditional media.

> Ultimately, what I need to know is if OmniOS is good fit to run OS off
> a pair of either internal SDcards or good quality USB sticks ?

As shipped, no.

Dan

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[OmniOS-discuss] OmniOS considered in-memory OS ?

2015-06-26 Thread Mick Burns
As per current wikipedia entry for SmartOS,  we can read the following :

 "SmartOS is an in-memory operating system and boots directly into
random access memory. It supports various boot mechanisms such as
booting off of universal serial bus thumbdrive, ISO Image, or over the
network via PXE boot."

Does this statement applies to OmniOS as well ?

Ultimately, what I need to know is if OmniOS is good fit to run OS off
a pair of either internal SDcards or good quality USB sticks ?

thank you.
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