Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, qutic development wrote: As 014 and 022 have signed packages, nobody else than OmniTi can build packages for these, right? Is it not possible for users to add a publisher and then that publisher acts as an overlay, with updated packages from the higher-priority publisher replacing the original packages? Does package signing prevent that or is this not something supported by IPS? Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
Hi Andy I have no 'power' but I have created omniosorg on github and invited you qutic theo robert dan ... so depending on what happens in the next few days we could just start updating a copy of omnios there ... so that nothing gets lost until things settel in a new rythem ... cheers tobi - On Jun 1, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Andy Fiddaman omn...@citrus-it.net wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, qutic development wrote: > > ; Hi Theo, > ; > ; that is a word! > ; > ; > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. > I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and > 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build > system, re-roll the packages and publish them. > ; > ; There are a few security related releases since Dan left: > ; > ; - sudo > ; - openssl (bugfix) > ; - openjdk 7 > ; - bind 9 > ; - ldap > ; > ; As 014 and 022 have signed packages, nobody else than OmniTi can build > packages for these, right? > > I have added a pull request for the openssl update to omnios-build, just to > see if anyone was picking these up. > > https://github.com/omniti-labs/omnios-build/pull/105 > > I've updated my local omnios r22 package mirror and updated our servers too > but I've obviously had to disable package signatures. > > Seems we don't currently have a maintained package repository although > people (including me) have volunteered to maintain it. > > Andy > > -- > Citrus IT Limited | +44 (0)870 199 8000 | enquir...@citrus-it.co.uk > Rock House Farm | Green Moor | Wortley | Sheffield | S35 7DQ > Registered in England and Wales | Company number 4899123 > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss -- Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch +41 62 775 9902 ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, qutic development wrote: ; Hi Theo, ; ; that is a word! ; ; > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build system, re-roll the packages and publish them. ; ; There are a few security related releases since Dan left: ; ; - sudo ; - openssl (bugfix) ; - openjdk 7 ; - bind 9 ; - ldap ; ; As 014 and 022 have signed packages, nobody else than OmniTi can build packages for these, right? I have added a pull request for the openssl update to omnios-build, just to see if anyone was picking these up. https://github.com/omniti-labs/omnios-build/pull/105 I've updated my local omnios r22 package mirror and updated our servers too but I've obviously had to disable package signatures. Seems we don't currently have a maintained package repository although people (including me) have volunteered to maintain it. Andy -- Citrus IT Limited | +44 (0)870 199 8000 | enquir...@citrus-it.co.uk Rock House Farm | Green Moor | Wortley | Sheffield | S35 7DQ Registered in England and Wales | Company number 4899123 ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
Hi Theo, that is a word! > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. I'll > pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and 022. > As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build > system, re-roll the packages and publish them. There are a few security related releases since Dan left: - sudo - openssl (bugfix) - openjdk 7 - bind 9 - ldap As 014 and 022 have signed packages, nobody else than OmniTi can build packages for these, right? > If this will be successful, other people will need to commit to do the work > and we will democratize the access to make that work possible. We do have one of the most current userland repos for omnios and are willing to contribute for core. I think we need an omnios build and release structure for the future. What do you think? - Stefan ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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I agree, github is the best place where the community should be gathered around. Topicbox looks good also.. 2017-05-16 5:13 GMT+02:00 Bryan Allen : > I'm happy to stick mailing lists under the same umbrella that the illumos > and SmartOS lists use. > > Lists would be f...@lists.omnios.org, under Topicbox, with a searchable / > discoverable web archive like > > https://illumos.topicbox.com > > Cheers. > -- > bdha > > > > On Mon, May 15, 2017, at 17:09, Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > > Couldn't agree more about github; it's where community happens. > If an org is started to manage assets, and it can likely pay for hosting > out of its operating budget. > > On May 15, 2017 5:47 PM, "Tobias Oetiker" wrote: > > - On May 15, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Michael Rasmussen m...@miras.org wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 > > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > >> Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> > >> > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > >> > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to > have. > >> > > >> I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will > >> Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? > >> > > BTW. speaking of wiki, online infrastructure etc. > > Any thoughts or wishes? > > What about hosting? (the important parts are: wiki and/or web site, > > mail list and/or forum, repository, bug tracker) > > This also means deciding which software to use for the above. > > I would strongly urge to keep source, issues, pull requests, wiki on > github. > > it is perfectly integrated, works very well, and we have one less thing to > worry about. > > cheers > tobi > > -- > Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland > www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch +41 62 775 9902 > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > *___* > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
I'm happy to stick mailing lists under the same umbrella that the illumos and SmartOS lists use. Lists would be f...@lists.omnios.org, under Topicbox, with a searchable / discoverable web archive like https://illumos.topicbox.com[1] Cheers. -- bdha On Mon, May 15, 2017, at 17:09, Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > Couldn't agree more about github; it's where community happens. > If an org is started to manage assets, and it can likely pay for > hosting out of its operating budget.> > On May 15, 2017 5:47 PM, "Tobias Oetiker" wrote: >> - On May 15, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Michael Rasmussen >> m...@miras.org wrote:>> >> > On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 >> > Michael Rasmussen wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 >> >> Michael Rasmussen wrote: >> >> >> >> > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and >> >> > any>> >> > other web based infrastructure the project may need and >> choose >> >> > to have.>> >> > >> >> I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. >> >> Will>> >> Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? >> >> >> > BTW. speaking of wiki, online infrastructure etc. >> > Any thoughts or wishes? >> > What about hosting? (the important parts are: wiki and/or web >> > site,>> > mail list and/or forum, repository, bug tracker) >> > This also means deciding which software to use for the above. >> >> I would strongly urge to keep source, issues, pull requests, wiki on >> github.>> >> it is perfectly integrated, works very well, and we have one less >> thing to worry about.>> >> cheers >> tobi >> >> -- >> Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, >> Switzerland>> www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch +41 62 775 9902[2] >> ___ >> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > _ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss Links: 1. https://illumos.topicbox.com/ 2. tel:%2B41%2062%20775%209902 ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
Couldn't agree more about github; it's where community happens. If an org is started to manage assets, and it can likely pay for hosting out of its operating budget. On May 15, 2017 5:47 PM, "Tobias Oetiker" wrote: > - On May 15, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Michael Rasmussen m...@miras.org wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 > > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > >> Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> > >> > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > >> > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to > have. > >> > > >> I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will > >> Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? > >> > > BTW. speaking of wiki, online infrastructure etc. > > Any thoughts or wishes? > > What about hosting? (the important parts are: wiki and/or web site, > > mail list and/or forum, repository, bug tracker) > > This also means deciding which software to use for the above. > > I would strongly urge to keep source, issues, pull requests, wiki on > github. > > it is perfectly integrated, works very well, and we have one less thing to > worry about. > > cheers > tobi > > -- > Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland > www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch +41 62 775 9902 > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
On Mon, 15 May 2017 23:38:20 +0200 (CEST) Tobias Oetiker wrote: > - On May 15, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Michael Rasmussen m...@miras.org wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 > > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > >> Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> > >> > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > >> > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. > >> > > >> I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will > >> Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? > >> > > BTW. speaking of wiki, online infrastructure etc. > > Any thoughts or wishes? > > What about hosting? (the important parts are: wiki and/or web site, > > mail list and/or forum, repository, bug tracker) > > This also means deciding which software to use for the above. > > I would strongly urge to keep source, issues, pull requests, wiki on github. > > it is perfectly integrated, works very well, and we have one less thing to > worry about. > Assuming we go with github this leaves mail list and/or forum and wiki and/or web site to be decided. This tightly coupled with the domain name so this will have to wait for this decision. I have a VM on DigitalOcean doing nothing else than act as backup MX which I could throw in as hosting for this? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- /usr/games/fortune -es says: To find out a girl's faults, praise her to her girl friends. -- Benjamin Franklin pgpFh3z6RbU4u.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
- On May 15, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Michael Rasmussen m...@miras.org wrote: > On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 >> Michael Rasmussen wrote: >> >> > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any >> > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. >> > >> I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will >> Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? >> > BTW. speaking of wiki, online infrastructure etc. > Any thoughts or wishes? > What about hosting? (the important parts are: wiki and/or web site, > mail list and/or forum, repository, bug tracker) > This also means deciding which software to use for the above. I would strongly urge to keep source, issues, pull requests, wiki on github. it is perfectly integrated, works very well, and we have one less thing to worry about. cheers tobi -- Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch +41 62 775 9902 ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. > > > I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will > Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? > BTW. speaking of wiki, online infrastructure etc. Any thoughts or wishes? What about hosting? (the important parts are: wiki and/or web site, mail list and/or forum, repository, bug tracker) This also means deciding which software to use for the above. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Standing on head makes smile of frown, but rest of face also upside down. pgp6k4IbdETE7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
On Mon, 15 May 2017 17:08:18 -0400 Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > My understanding from Robert's email was that they'd hand over all that > stuff. But a "community" isn't a legal entity to which someone can hand > something over. I'm doing some research on governance models that would > most-closely emulate community ownership. > I think the most used way of handling something like this is either creating a company or a trust fund which holds all trademarks, domain names etc. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- /usr/games/fortune -es says: "...Deep Hack Mode--that mysterious and frightening state of consciousness where Mortal Users fear to tread." (By Matt Welsh) pgpY5pGaBOLq8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
My understanding from Robert's email was that they'd hand over all that stuff. But a "community" isn't a legal entity to which someone can hand something over. I'm doing some research on governance models that would most-closely emulate community ownership. On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. > > > I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will > Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? > > -- > Hilsen/Regards > Michael Rasmussen > > Get my public GnuPG keys: > michael rasmussen cc > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E > mir datanom net > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C > mir miras org > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 > -- > /usr/games/fortune -es says: > He hated being thought of as one of those people that wore stupid > ornamental armour. It was gilt by association. > -- Terry Pratchett, "Night Watch" > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > -- Theo Schlossnagle http://omniti.com/is/theo-schlossnagle ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
> On May 15, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any >> other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. >> > I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will > Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? I believe that IS part of the plan. Robert T. can answer that with authority, however. Dan ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. > I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will Omniti consider handing over omnios.org to the community? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- /usr/games/fortune -es says: He hated being thought of as one of those people that wore stupid ornamental armour. It was gilt by association. -- Terry Pratchett, "Night Watch" pgpbkOhDP2PWu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Theo Schlossnagle < theo.schlossna...@circonus.com> wrote: > I have to chime in. Communities aren't built on money; they are built on > time. I think there has been an unhealthy focus on how much money people > are willing to pledge without considering who would even be willing to > accept that money for their time. Those willing might not require payment > at all. > Not to mention the bureaucratic technicalities and legalities of handling payment. If there are people who do wish to contribute financially, then supporting involvement at community events (FOSDEM is the first one that comes to mind) is always welcome. > Communities are built on collective need and contributed time. It comes > down to volunteering. I have yet to see anyone pledge time to do work, and > from my perspective that is what is truly needed here. > > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. > I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and > 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the > build system, re-roll the packages and publish them. > Thanks for setting the example. I suspect there were a few who didn't want to be the first either. > If this will be successful, other people will need to commit to do the > work and we will democratize the access to make that work possible. > I'm willing to help maintain, test, and develop illumos-omnios. > Best regards, > > Theo > > > On May 14, 2017 3:41 PM, "Michael Mounteney" > wrote: > >> On Sun, 14 May 2017 17:33:56 +0200 >> Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: >> >> > So, where are we at the moment? Any conclusions? Decisions? Plans? >> >> TBH it's not looking good. >> >> https://gitter.im/PostOmniOS/Lobby has reached no firm conclusion. We >> certainly are well-short of a group of qualified and committed people >> who could take-on management of OmniOS. >> >> The funding poll at >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IyAI950a-JkPgRRLSezZ >> m9-Rt8HkfO_nIkubd_m8d_0/edit >> is short by an order of magnitude of what it needs to set-up commercial >> OmniOS support. Even the promises amount to less than a serious salary. >> >> I hate to be negative but somebody has to say it and we have to decide >> how to move on. >> >> __ >> Michael Mounteney >> Landcroft Computing >> ___ >> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss >> > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
It seems indeed you did shake things up a bit. To give my two cents in this: I am happy to help! Although I am not a developer - sysadmin at most, and even that is not my *primary* everyday function - I am always eager to learn. My current state/skills regarding OmniOS (since 2014): * am running two LTS (r151014 for now) boxes at home, * non-global zones (LX zones not yet), * KVM, * some bash scripting skills (not even close to being an ace though), * have done some compiling and IPS packaging while hosting it on a personal repo (but compiling skills are still novice) * was/am planning to start using some Illumos-distro (preferably OmniOS) at my boss' office - where I'm the sysadmin - but as a result of these late developments I am investigating alternatives (ZFS-on-Linux, Docker, ...) as well. * willing to do some testing too - not too much on my production machines though, but I can setup some physical or virtual test environment. * oh, and have been using Linux (Ubuntu, CentOS, OpenSUSE) since 2011. I sincerely hope we can keep this thing going. Regards, Andries On 2017-05-15 11:36, Michael Mounteney wrote: It seems my rather pessimistic assessment has started something going. We have several volunteers making offers of various skills and I'm happy to join them. My skills are: * Programming in C, C++, Java, Bash but not PHP. * Home-user level sysadmin (configure dovecot, DHCP, NAT, KVM etc. without necessarily fully understanding what I'm doing). * Testing, provided failure won't destroy data or cause other non-recoverable errors. We still need a leader/coordinator. Theo, would Robert allow you to do that in company time? He did say "while some of our staff may continue contributing" which kind of implies that he might. That would really help, because it's quite obvious to me that unless a serious company stands behind OmniOS, the big guns that are prepared to pay $10ks a year for maintenance will go elsewhere. The next step is the establishment of some sort of foundation or committee to coordinate the efforts of the volunteers. __ Michael Mounteney ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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I just added my potential in paid support for OmniOS being maintained professionally. This spreadsheet does reveal the realities OmniTI was facing with OmniOS. My guess is they were never close to turning a profit on it. It saddens me to see such a well developed and maintained distribution go unsupported. I hope there is enough commercial potential that OmniOS gets picked up to offer a supported distribution, but I don't expect there will be. OmniOS is, unfortunately, a niche product, that doesn't have enough paying customer potential. Just as many others did, I initially started using it as a platform to run ZFS storage. It made much more economical sense than buying into Nexenta in order to get a supported platform. ZFS is now much more mature on Linux and I suspect this drastically reduces OmniOS's demand. Dan McDonald and OmniTI put forward an excellent run at it. Unfortunately, OmniOS was, for the most part, a one-man show that without Dan will, by my best prediction, die a long slow death. I'm sure there will be some advancement by the community for several years to come, but not at a pace and quality that can be tolerated by users like myself. I give the credit to Dan, for the development of such a great distribution of Illumos, and relentless effort to support it. I do have to criticize OmniTI for poor execution. We were paid supporters of OmniOS, however, things like sending out renewal invoices were never executed in a timely manner and requests for quotes for additional server support were difficult to get a response on. I think in the three years we were paid supporters, we probably only paid for two. Should a new company offer a paid support contract for OmniOS with the talent to back it up, I will very quickly get Washington University on board. If that doesn't happen in the next few months, I will start our plan of moving or ZFS storage to another platform, that has long-term viability and hopefully some sort of paid support. That may mean getting an independent contractor or consulting firm on retainer for emergency help or dedicated patch development/maintenance. -Chip On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:37 AM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Sun, 14 May 2017 19:10:32 -0400 > Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > > > > > Communities are built on collective need and contributed time. It comes > > down to volunteering. I have yet to see anyone pledge time to do work, > and > > from my perspective that is what is truly needed here. > > > This is not entirely true since I some weeks ago did exactly that > without specifying what I would do precisely. > > > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. > > I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 > and > > 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the > > build system, re-roll the packages and publish them. > > > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. > > -- > Hilsen/Regards > Michael Rasmussen > > Get my public GnuPG keys: > michael rasmussen cc > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E > mir datanom net > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C > mir miras org > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 > -- > /usr/games/fortune -es says: > Don't patch bad code - rewrite it. > - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher) > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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It seems my rather pessimistic assessment has started something going. We have several volunteers making offers of various skills and I'm happy to join them. My skills are: * Programming in C, C++, Java, Bash but not PHP. * Home-user level sysadmin (configure dovecot, DHCP, NAT, KVM etc. without necessarily fully understanding what I'm doing). * Testing, provided failure won't destroy data or cause other non-recoverable errors. We still need a leader/coordinator. Theo, would Robert allow you to do that in company time? He did say "while some of our staff may continue contributing" which kind of implies that he might. That would really help, because it's quite obvious to me that unless a serious company stands behind OmniOS, the big guns that are prepared to pay $10ks a year for maintenance will go elsewhere. The next step is the establishment of some sort of foundation or committee to coordinate the efforts of the volunteers. __ Michael Mounteney ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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On Sun, 14 May 2017, Theo Schlossnagle wrote: ; I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. ; I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and ; 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the ; build system, re-roll the packages and publish them. We can help with packaging, merging changes from illumos, or whatever else is required to keep this going. Andy -- Citrus IT Limited | +44 (0)870 199 8000 | enquir...@citrus-it.co.uk Rock House Farm | Green Moor | Wortley | Sheffield | S35 7DQ Registered in England and Wales | Company number 4899123 ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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I work as a devops, having various scripting languages skills (python php javascript), basics im c++ (learningowej proces)and 10+ years expierience with Linux. Then i discovered solaris 8,9,10,11 and it suprised me with old features which Linux was just starting. Anyway, i have no expierience on packaging nor developing system itself but im willing to Learn and help. Thats for my statement... Now, i belive we should make decisions on directions - release model - disscused mariage with OI - governance of the project - structure and roles in project Etc Regards W dniu pon., 15.05.2017 o 08:48 Tobi Oetiker napisał(a): > I will also be glad to help with packaging. > > O+P is already running a repo on pkg.oetiker.ch but we have not widely > publicized it. > > My main use of omnios is as a server for kvm an lxzones, so I would also > be willing to help with porting updates from joyent unfortunately I have no > experience with this at > all. > > Tobias Oetiker > t...@oetiker.ch > 062 775 9902 > > On 15 May 2017, at 01:10, Theo Schlossnagle < > theo.schlossna...@circonus.com> wrote: > > I have to chime in. Communities aren't built on money; they are built on > time. I think there has been an unhealthy focus on how much money people > are willing to pledge without considering who would even be willing to > accept that money for their time. Those willing might not require payment > at all. > > Communities are built on collective need and contributed time. It comes > down to volunteering. I have yet to see anyone pledge time to do work, and > from my perspective that is what is truly needed here. > > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. > I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and > 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the > build system, re-roll the packages and publish them. > > If this will be successful, other people will need to commit to do the > work and we will democratize the access to make that work possible. > > Best regards, > > Theo > > > On May 14, 2017 3:41 PM, "Michael Mounteney" > wrote: > >> On Sun, 14 May 2017 17:33:56 +0200 >> Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: >> >> > So, where are we at the moment? Any conclusions? Decisions? Plans? >> >> TBH it's not looking good. >> >> https://gitter.im/PostOmniOS/Lobby has reached no firm conclusion. We >> certainly are well-short of a group of qualified and committed people >> who could take-on management of OmniOS. >> >> The funding poll at >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IyAI950a-JkPgRRLSezZm9-Rt8HkfO_nIkubd_m8d_0/edit >> is short by an order of magnitude of what it needs to set-up commercial >> OmniOS support. Even the promises amount to less than a serious salary. >> >> I hate to be negative but somebody has to say it and we have to decide >> how to move on. >> >> __ >> Michael Mounteney >> Landcroft Computing >> ___ >> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss >> > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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I will also be glad to help with packaging. O+P is already running a repo on pkg.oetiker.ch but we have not widely publicized it. My main use of omnios is as a server for kvm an lxzones, so I would also be willing to help with porting updates from joyent unfortunately I have no experience with this at all. Tobias Oetiker t...@oetiker.ch 062 775 9902 > On 15 May 2017, at 01:10, Theo Schlossnagle > wrote: > > I have to chime in. Communities aren't built on money; they are built on > time. I think there has been an unhealthy focus on how much money people are > willing to pledge without considering who would even be willing to accept > that money for their time. Those willing might not require payment at all. > > Communities are built on collective need and contributed time. It comes down > to volunteering. I have yet to see anyone pledge time to do work, and from my > perspective that is what is truly needed here. > > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. I'll > pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and 022. > As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build > system, re-roll the packages and publish them. > > If this will be successful, other people will need to commit to do the work > and we will democratize the access to make that work possible. > > Best regards, > > Theo > > >> On May 14, 2017 3:41 PM, "Michael Mounteney" wrote: >> On Sun, 14 May 2017 17:33:56 +0200 >> Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: >> >> > So, where are we at the moment? Any conclusions? Decisions? Plans? >> >> TBH it's not looking good. >> >> https://gitter.im/PostOmniOS/Lobby has reached no firm conclusion. We >> certainly are well-short of a group of qualified and committed people >> who could take-on management of OmniOS. >> >> The funding poll at >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IyAI950a-JkPgRRLSezZm9-Rt8HkfO_nIkubd_m8d_0/edit >> is short by an order of magnitude of what it needs to set-up commercial >> OmniOS support. Even the promises amount to less than a serious salary. >> >> I hate to be negative but somebody has to say it and we have to decide >> how to move on. >> >> __ >> Michael Mounteney >> Landcroft Computing >> ___ >> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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hi, On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: > Theo Schlossnagle writes: > > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. > I'll > > pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and > 022. As > > security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build > system, > > re-roll the packages and publish them. > > I will help with packaging. I will try to set aside 2-3 hours each > weekend to keep existing applications up to date, and to package new > applications as the need arises. > > Should there be a team that manages the repository, I am willing to > be part of it. As a (very happy) home user, I really want Omnios to keep going. So if I'll be happy to help with some some of my free time as well. I have zero experience packaging software for Omnios, but I can learn (I admin linux systems for a living, devops they call it now). -- regards, Natxo ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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Theo Schlossnagle writes: > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. I'll > pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and 022. As > security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build system, > re-roll the packages and publish them. I will help with packaging. I will try to set aside 2-3 hours each weekend to keep existing applications up to date, and to package new applications as the need arises. Should there be a team that manages the repository, I am willing to be part of it. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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On Sun, 14 May 2017 19:10:32 -0400 Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > > Communities are built on collective need and contributed time. It comes > down to volunteering. I have yet to see anyone pledge time to do work, and > from my perspective that is what is truly needed here. > This is not entirely true since I some weeks ago did exactly that without specifying what I would do precisely. > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. > I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and > 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the > build system, re-roll the packages and publish them. > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Don't patch bad code - rewrite it. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher) pgpgOn51zDxqC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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I have to chime in. Communities aren't built on money; they are built on time. I think there has been an unhealthy focus on how much money people are willing to pledge without considering who would even be willing to accept that money for their time. Those willing might not require payment at all. Communities are built on collective need and contributed time. It comes down to volunteering. I have yet to see anyone pledge time to do work, and from my perspective that is what is truly needed here. I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build system, re-roll the packages and publish them. If this will be successful, other people will need to commit to do the work and we will democratize the access to make that work possible. Best regards, Theo On May 14, 2017 3:41 PM, "Michael Mounteney" wrote: > On Sun, 14 May 2017 17:33:56 +0200 > Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: > > > So, where are we at the moment? Any conclusions? Decisions? Plans? > > TBH it's not looking good. > > https://gitter.im/PostOmniOS/Lobby has reached no firm conclusion. We > certainly are well-short of a group of qualified and committed people > who could take-on management of OmniOS. > > The funding poll at > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IyAI950a- > JkPgRRLSezZm9-Rt8HkfO_nIkubd_m8d_0/edit > is short by an order of magnitude of what it needs to set-up commercial > OmniOS support. Even the promises amount to less than a serious salary. > > I hate to be negative but somebody has to say it and we have to decide > how to move on. > > __ > Michael Mounteney > Landcroft Computing > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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On Sun, 14 May 2017 17:33:56 +0200 Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: > So, where are we at the moment? Any conclusions? Decisions? Plans? TBH it's not looking good. https://gitter.im/PostOmniOS/Lobby has reached no firm conclusion. We certainly are well-short of a group of qualified and committed people who could take-on management of OmniOS. The funding poll at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IyAI950a-JkPgRRLSezZm9-Rt8HkfO_nIkubd_m8d_0/edit is short by an order of magnitude of what it needs to set-up commercial OmniOS support. Even the promises amount to less than a serious salary. I hate to be negative but somebody has to say it and we have to decide how to move on. __ Michael Mounteney Landcroft Computing ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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So, where are we at the moment? Any conclusions? Decisions? Plans? regards 2017-05-13 0:20 GMT+02:00 Joseph Boren : > Just wanted to add my thanks to Dan for the great support, and best wishes > for the future. > > Cheers! > > > Joseph Boren > > IT Specialist > > +c: 208.891.2128 <(208)%20891-2128> > > + 416 S 8th St., Boise, ID 83702 > > + > > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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Just wanted to add my thanks to Dan for the great support, and best wishes for the future. Cheers! Joseph Boren IT Specialist +c: 208.891.2128 + 416 S 8th St., Boise, ID 83702 + ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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Hi Marion > On 12 May 2017, at 23:47, Marion Hakanson wrote: > > I wonder how many such $1k/yr customers (supporters) would be needed > to hire Dan to continue his work on behalf of the OmniOS/illumos > community. Would 100 be enough? 200? > there is a list to see how much we could raise https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IyAI950a-JkPgRRLSezZm9-Rt8HkfO_nIkubd_m8d_0 > Regards, > > Marion > > > >> From: Krzysztof Grzempa >> Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 20:18:22 +0200 >> To: >> Subject: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community >> >> Thank you Dan, for the best Illumos distro ever! >> I hope that the transfer to the community driven model will come true, and >> I hope you still will be the part of it. >> Now it is up to us, the 'community' to decide if we want to keep this great >> project alive or let if go I'm ready to participate somehow financial >> and with my skills... >> >> 2017-05-12 19:35 GMT+02:00 Jim Klimov : >> >>> On May 12, 2017 6:07:01 PM GMT+03:00, Dan McDonald >>> wrote: >>>> Dear OmniOS Community, >>>> >>>> For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS >>>> Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for >>>> solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting >>>> box, network filer, or other uses. >>>> >>>> As you saw, OmniTI is turning over OmniOS completely to the community. >>>> The decision-making was sensible for OmniTI, and I understand it >>>> completely. With r151022, OmniOS should be at a nice long-term state >>>> (022 was always intended to be LTS). >>>> >>>> I will be around OmniTI for another week (though on Friday the 19th my >>>> availability will be spotty). During this next week, I encourage >>>> people to start upgrading or installing r151022 on their environments. >>>> I already have updated it on my own HDC, and it seems to be performing >>>> as it has previously. >>>> >>>> Thank you again, OmniOS community, for making these past three years as >>>> rewarding as I'd hoped they'd be when I joined OmniTI. And as for >>>> OmniTI, if you need web or database consulting, please keep them in >>>> mind. Still a fan, even though I'm no longer with them. >>>> >>>> Dan McDonald -- OmniOS Engineering >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >>>> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >>>> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss >>> >>> Oh, bummer... I hope you'd be around for the community effort too every >>> now and then. ;) Thanks for keeping that ship afloat! >>> >>> Jim >>> -- >>> Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Redmi Android >>> ___ >>> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >>> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >>> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss >>> >> >> > > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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I'd like to add my thanks to Dan for his valuable support of the OmniOS community. And to OmniTI for making the distribution available to Solaris refugees (and ZFS & zones users) like myself. We're a non-profit, so we found OmniTI's support costs beyond our reach, but I believe we would be able to afford $1k or so per year for an updates-only type of support contract that would cover the ten or so storage servers we have here. I wonder how many such $1k/yr customers (supporters) would be needed to hire Dan to continue his work on behalf of the OmniOS/illumos community. Would 100 be enough? 200? Regards, Marion > From: Krzysztof Grzempa > Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 20:18:22 +0200 > To: > Subject: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community > > Thank you Dan, for the best Illumos distro ever! > I hope that the transfer to the community driven model will come true, and > I hope you still will be the part of it. > Now it is up to us, the 'community' to decide if we want to keep this great > project alive or let if go I'm ready to participate somehow financial > and with my skills... > > 2017-05-12 19:35 GMT+02:00 Jim Klimov : > > > On May 12, 2017 6:07:01 PM GMT+03:00, Dan McDonald > > wrote: > > >Dear OmniOS Community, > > > > > >For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS > > >Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for > > >solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting > > >box, network filer, or other uses. > > > > > >As you saw, OmniTI is turning over OmniOS completely to the community. > > >The decision-making was sensible for OmniTI, and I understand it > > >completely. With r151022, OmniOS should be at a nice long-term state > > >(022 was always intended to be LTS). > > > > > >I will be around OmniTI for another week (though on Friday the 19th my > > >availability will be spotty). During this next week, I encourage > > >people to start upgrading or installing r151022 on their environments. > > >I already have updated it on my own HDC, and it seems to be performing > > >as it has previously. > > > > > >Thank you again, OmniOS community, for making these past three years as > > >rewarding as I'd hoped they'd be when I joined OmniTI. And as for > > >OmniTI, if you need web or database consulting, please keep them in > > >mind. Still a fan, even though I'm no longer with them. > > > > > >Dan McDonald -- OmniOS Engineering > > > > > >___ > > >OmniOS-discuss mailing list > > >OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > > >http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > > > Oh, bummer... I hope you'd be around for the community effort too every > > now and then. ;) Thanks for keeping that ship afloat! > > > > Jim > > -- > > Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Redmi Android > > ___ > > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > > > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
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Thank you Dan, for the best Illumos distro ever! I hope that the transfer to the community driven model will come true, and I hope you still will be the part of it. Now it is up to us, the 'community' to decide if we want to keep this great project alive or let if go I'm ready to participate somehow financial and with my skills... 2017-05-12 19:35 GMT+02:00 Jim Klimov : > On May 12, 2017 6:07:01 PM GMT+03:00, Dan McDonald > wrote: > >Dear OmniOS Community, > > > >For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS > >Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for > >solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting > >box, network filer, or other uses. > > > >As you saw, OmniTI is turning over OmniOS completely to the community. > >The decision-making was sensible for OmniTI, and I understand it > >completely. With r151022, OmniOS should be at a nice long-term state > >(022 was always intended to be LTS). > > > >I will be around OmniTI for another week (though on Friday the 19th my > >availability will be spotty). During this next week, I encourage > >people to start upgrading or installing r151022 on their environments. > >I already have updated it on my own HDC, and it seems to be performing > >as it has previously. > > > >Thank you again, OmniOS community, for making these past three years as > >rewarding as I'd hoped they'd be when I joined OmniTI. And as for > >OmniTI, if you need web or database consulting, please keep them in > >mind. Still a fan, even though I'm no longer with them. > > > >Dan McDonald -- OmniOS Engineering > > > >___ > >OmniOS-discuss mailing list > >OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > >http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > Oh, bummer... I hope you'd be around for the community effort too every > now and then. ;) Thanks for keeping that ship afloat! > > Jim > -- > Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Redmi Android > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
On May 12, 2017 6:07:01 PM GMT+03:00, Dan McDonald wrote: >Dear OmniOS Community, > >For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS >Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for >solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting >box, network filer, or other uses. > >As you saw, OmniTI is turning over OmniOS completely to the community. >The decision-making was sensible for OmniTI, and I understand it >completely. With r151022, OmniOS should be at a nice long-term state >(022 was always intended to be LTS). > >I will be around OmniTI for another week (though on Friday the 19th my >availability will be spotty). During this next week, I encourage >people to start upgrading or installing r151022 on their environments. >I already have updated it on my own HDC, and it seems to be performing >as it has previously. > >Thank you again, OmniOS community, for making these past three years as >rewarding as I'd hoped they'd be when I joined OmniTI. And as for >OmniTI, if you need web or database consulting, please keep them in >mind. Still a fan, even though I'm no longer with them. > >Dan McDonald -- OmniOS Engineering > >___ >OmniOS-discuss mailing list >OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss Oh, bummer... I hope you'd be around for the community effort too every now and then. ;) Thanks for keeping that ship afloat! Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Redmi Android ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
Dan, I see some people beat me to thanking you for all your hard work and support that you've provided to individuals in getting their issues with omnios resolved. I know you won't have any issue with finding gainful employment going forward. I also hope that you find the time to remain a part of the community even if it's at a lower level of activity. Frank On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Richard Elling < richard.ell...@richardelling.com> wrote: > Thanks for everything Dan, you’ve been a terrific asset to the OmniOS > community! > — richard > > > On May 12, 2017, at 8:07 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > > > > Dear OmniOS Community, > > > > For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS > Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for > solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting box, > network filer, or other uses. > > > > As you saw, OmniTI is turning over OmniOS completely to the community. > The decision-making was sensible for OmniTI, and I understand it > completely. With r151022, OmniOS should be at a nice long-term state (022 > was always intended to be LTS). > > > > I will be around OmniTI for another week (though on Friday the 19th my > availability will be spotty). During this next week, I encourage people to > start upgrading or installing r151022 on their environments. I already > have updated it on my own HDC, and it seems to be performing as it has > previously. > > > > Thank you again, OmniOS community, for making these past three years as > rewarding as I'd hoped they'd be when I joined OmniTI. And as for OmniTI, > if you need web or database consulting, please keep them in mind. Still a > fan, even though I'm no longer with them. > > > > Dan McDonald -- OmniOS Engineering > > > > ___ > > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
Thanks for everything Dan, you’ve been a terrific asset to the OmniOS community! — richard > On May 12, 2017, at 8:07 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > > Dear OmniOS Community, > > For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS > Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for > solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting box, > network filer, or other uses. > > As you saw, OmniTI is turning over OmniOS completely to the community. The > decision-making was sensible for OmniTI, and I understand it completely. With > r151022, OmniOS should be at a nice long-term state (022 was always intended > to be LTS). > > I will be around OmniTI for another week (though on Friday the 19th my > availability will be spotty). During this next week, I encourage people to > start upgrading or installing r151022 on their environments. I already have > updated it on my own HDC, and it seems to be performing as it has previously. > > > Thank you again, OmniOS community, for making these past three years as > rewarding as I'd hoped they'd be when I joined OmniTI. And as for OmniTI, if > you need web or database consulting, please keep them in mind. Still a fan, > even though I'm no longer with them. > > Dan McDonald -- OmniOS Engineering > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
Hi Dan, Best of luck and thanks for all your efforts. On Fri, 12 May 2017 17:58:58 +0200 "Andries Annema" wrote: > > You really did a marvelous job. I sincerely hope that we, as a community, > can and will keep the ball rolling and make it even better ;-) > That said, it would be awesome if you are willing to contribute in the > future still, albeit at a lower frequency and intensity, obviously. > Speaking of the future. Anybody knows anything about the future of the community efforts? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Ignorance is never out of style. It was in fashion yesterday, it is the rage today, and it will set the pace tomorrow. -- Franklin K. Dane pgpgrOWqSxWDP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
Dan, What Linda says, times two! *making a deep bow* You really did a marvelous job. I sincerely hope that we, as a community, can and will keep the ball rolling and make it even better ;-) That said, it would be awesome if you are willing to contribute in the future still, albeit at a lower frequency and intensity, obviously. Thanks a lot and all the best of luck with your new challenges in life! Cheers, Andries -Original Message- From: OmniOS-discuss [mailto:omnios-discuss-boun...@lists.omniti.com] On Behalf Of Linda Kateley Sent: vrijdag 12 mei 2017 17:36 To: omnios-discuss@lists.omniti.com Subject: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community Outstanding job Dan! On 5/12/17 10:07 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > Dear OmniOS Community, > > For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting box, network filer, or other uses. > > As you saw, OmniTI is turning over OmniOS completely to the community. The decision-making was sensible for OmniTI, and I understand it completely. With r151022, OmniOS should be at a nice long-term state (022 was always intended to be LTS). > > I will be around OmniTI for another week (though on Friday the 19th my availability will be spotty). During this next week, I encourage people to start upgrading or installing r151022 on their environments. I already have updated it on my own HDC, and it seems to be performing as it has previously. > > Thank you again, OmniOS community, for making these past three years as rewarding as I'd hoped they'd be when I joined OmniTI. And as for OmniTI, if you need web or database consulting, please keep them in mind. Still a fan, even though I'm no longer with them. > > Dan McDonald -- OmniOS Engineering > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community
Outstanding job Dan! On 5/12/17 10:07 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: Dear OmniOS Community, For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting box, network filer, or other uses. As you saw, OmniTI is turning over OmniOS completely to the community. The decision-making was sensible for OmniTI, and I understand it completely. With r151022, OmniOS should be at a nice long-term state (022 was always intended to be LTS). I will be around OmniTI for another week (though on Friday the 19th my availability will be spotty). During this next week, I encourage people to start upgrading or installing r151022 on their environments. I already have updated it on my own HDC, and it seems to be performing as it has previously. Thank you again, OmniOS community, for making these past three years as rewarding as I'd hoped they'd be when I joined OmniTI. And as for OmniTI, if you need web or database consulting, please keep them in mind. Still a fan, even though I'm no longer with them. Dan McDonald -- OmniOS Engineering ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
