Re: [onap-discuss] TSC meetings: length, topics etc.

2018-06-29 Thread Alex Vul 
Dear all,

I would suggest that we allow the newly minted TSC, whenever it is elected, to 
establish their own operational efficiencies and procedures.

Kind regards,

Alex Vul
Intel Corporation


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Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] TSC meetings: length, topics etc.

ONAP TSC,

This is a process proposal for the ONAP TSC meetings. This is independent of 
the decision on the length and timing of the TSC meetings.

To help shorten the TSC meetings, it may be helpful to have a process where all 
TSC members views on the topics on the agenda are known before the meeting. 
This gives time to all the companies to know other companies views and to 
formulate their responses and votes before the meeting. This may help reduce 
surprises and lengthy discussions during the meeting.

One way to do this is to use the TSC Meeting Agendas wiki page: 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Upcoming+Agendas

The Linux Foundation (Kenny) could add a structure template to the TSC Meeting 
Agenda page and for each meeting:

  1.  Each presenter is asked to list (or upload) their discussion points on 
the Meeting Agenda page (at least a week prior to the meeting)
  2.  Each voting TSC member is asked to add their responses or views for each 
discussion point (at least 24 or 48 hours prior to the meeting)
  3.  During the TSC meeting, Kenny presents the Meeting Agenda page including 
all agenda points and the added responses and views
  4.  For every contentious point, where a vote may be needed, a vote is held 
during the TSC meeting to make a decision.

It should be clarified that:

  *   The TSC Meeting Agenda wiki page should not be used for back and forth 
discussions and arguments
  *   Adding responses or views to the TSC Meeting Agenda wiki page is not a 
substitute for attending the TSC meeting.

Arash Hekmat (Amdocs)

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Subject: [onap-tsc] TSC meetings: length, topics etc.

Hi all,

Following my AI from yesterday's TSC meeting, I am sending this email out.

We would want to make life easier for those in Asia who attend our (very late 
for them)TSC meetings on Thursday.
Having said that, we should keep in mind that the only timeframe during which 
we can have our meetings without getting into 12 am-6 am night hours for any of 
the regions is these timeframe.


  1.  One of the proposals raised by community was:

*TSC meeting time should be shorten to 1 hour - so people in China 
suffer less due to late evening hours. We should clearly define what are topics 
on agenda for TSC meetings, and then also:
-what can be discussed by some form of active chat (yet to be defined)
-What may be discussed in bi or 3 - weekly meetings, which are also 
scheduled in advance


  1.  The other suggestion brought by Phill during our f2f meeting last week 
was to have separate meetings for a different regions.

In any case, further work on the proposals is needed (in case there is a 
support for any of these), or, alternatively, a new proposal can be brought to 
the table.

Please let us know what you think about 2 proposals above and bring your own 
suggestions, if you have some.

Best regards,

Alla Goldner

Open Network Division
Amdocs Technology


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Re: [onap-discuss] TSC meetings: length, topics etc.

2018-06-29 Thread Arash Hekmat 
ONAP TSC,

This is a process proposal for the ONAP TSC meetings. This is independent of 
the decision on the length and timing of the TSC meetings.

To help shorten the TSC meetings, it may be helpful to have a process where all 
TSC members views on the topics on the agenda are known before the meeting. 
This gives time to all the companies to know other companies views and to 
formulate their responses and votes before the meeting. This may help reduce 
surprises and lengthy discussions during the meeting.

One way to do this is to use the TSC Meeting Agendas wiki page: 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Upcoming+Agendas

The Linux Foundation (Kenny) could add a structure template to the TSC Meeting 
Agenda page and for each meeting:

  1.  Each presenter is asked to list (or upload) their discussion points on 
the Meeting Agenda page (at least a week prior to the meeting)
  2.  Each voting TSC member is asked to add their responses or views for each 
discussion point (at least 24 or 48 hours prior to the meeting)
  3.  During the TSC meeting, Kenny presents the Meeting Agenda page including 
all agenda points and the added responses and views
  4.  For every contentious point, where a vote may be needed, a vote is held 
during the TSC meeting to make a decision.

It should be clarified that:

  *   The TSC Meeting Agenda wiki page should not be used for back and forth 
discussions and arguments
  *   Adding responses or views to the TSC Meeting Agenda wiki page is not a 
substitute for attending the TSC meeting.

Arash Hekmat (Amdocs)

From: onap-...@lists.onap.org  On Behalf Of Alla 
Goldner
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 1:22 AM
To: onap-tsc ; onap-discuss@lists.onap.org
Subject: [onap-tsc] TSC meetings: length, topics etc.

Hi all,

Following my AI from yesterday's TSC meeting, I am sending this email out.

We would want to make life easier for those in Asia who attend our (very late 
for them)TSC meetings on Thursday.
Having said that, we should keep in mind that the only timeframe during which 
we can have our meetings without getting into 12 am-6 am night hours for any of 
the regions is these timeframe.


  1.  One of the proposals raised by community was:


  *   TSC meeting time should be shorten to 1 hour - so people in China suffer 
less due to late evening hours. We should clearly define what are topics on 
agenda for TSC meetings, and then also:
 *   what can be discussed by some form of active chat (yet to be defined)
 *   What may be discussed in bi or 3 - weekly meetings, which are also 
scheduled in advance


  1.  The other suggestion brought by Phill during our f2f meeting last week 
was to have separate meetings for a different regions.

In any case, further work on the proposals is needed (in case there is a 
support for any of these), or, alternatively, a new proposal can be brought to 
the table.

Please let us know what you think about 2 proposals above and bring your own 
suggestions, if you have some.

Best regards,

Alla Goldner

Open Network Division
Amdocs Technology


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[onap-discuss] TSC meetings: length, topics etc.

2018-06-28 Thread Alla Goldner 
Hi all,

Following my AI from yesterday's TSC meeting, I am sending this email out.

We would want to make life easier for those in Asia who attend our (very late 
for them)TSC meetings on Thursday.
Having said that, we should keep in mind that the only timeframe during which 
we can have our meetings without getting into 12 am-6 am night hours for any of 
the regions is these timeframe.


1.  One of the proposals raised by community was:


*   TSC meeting time should be shorten to 1 hour - so people in China 
suffer less due to late evening hours. We should clearly define what are topics 
on agenda for TSC meetings, and then also:

-  what can be discussed by some form of active chat (yet to be defined)

-  What may be discussed in bi or 3 - weekly meetings, which are also 
scheduled in advance


2.  The other suggestion brought by Phill during our f2f meeting last week 
was to have separate meetings for a different regions.

In any case, further work on the proposals is needed (in case there is a 
support for any of these), or, alternatively, a new proposal can be brought to 
the table.

Please let us know what you think about 2 proposals above and bring your own 
suggestions, if you have some.

Best regards,

Alla Goldner

Open Network Division
Amdocs Technology


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