Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators
Hello Dave, 2012/9/9 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net Hi - [...] ooo-users-fr ericb2 - resigned from ppmc / committer. vince...@laposte.net water...@sunrise.ch What are we doing with the French list. Anyone know? I would resign from this function to concentrate me exclusively in the documentation area. Please, delete my name from the list. I would thank you for your investment in the project. A+ -- gw
Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators
Original Message From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:41:07 -0700 Hi - Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.) I think the action list and number of moderators needed is: ooo-commits - 2 ooo-dev - 1 ooo-issues - 2 ooo-notifications - 2 ooo-private - 2 ooo-security - 2 ooo-users - 2 ooo-users-fr - ? Below I put a ? where I think we need people ooo-announce imacat robweir - Rob did not include this in his list. ? ooo-commits danese - Mentor robweir ? ? ooo-dev robweir danese - mentor pj ? ? ooo-general-es arielch juanm...@gmail.com ooo-general-ja khirano maho ooo-geral-ptbr bino28 filhocf lcolui...@gmail.com ooo-issues danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-l10n khirano paolopoz robweir yo ooo-marketing bmcs yo jsc jza khirano pj robweir si...@webmink.com ooo-notifications danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-private robweir danese - mentor jsc orcmid ? Louis? ? ooo-progetto-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti ooo-qa lilyzh...@gmail.com maho robweir ooo-security malte robweir ? Who is left on this list as subscribers? ooo-users khirano orcmid pj robweir si...@webmink.com ? ooo-users-de mikeadvo rbircher ooo-users-fr ericb2 - resigned from ppmc / committer. vince...@laposte.net water...@sunrise.ch What are we doing with the French list. Anyone know? ooo-utenti-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti Regards, Dave Hi Dave, It looks like we are a little short of moderators for the dev and ooo-users lists, probably the ones requiring the most moderation. I am UTC+1 already a moderator for the marketing list (bmcs) and am willing take on additional moderation for these two list. Regards Dave
Email.............
Hello, I’ve got to tell you, Open Office is the best office software ever. I used MS OFFICE for 9 years, but that because of OUTLOOK. But now my OUTLOOK is corrupt I can’t use it anymore so I’m using my Open Office now. 1 question, will you ever have a email program to add on the Open Office? If you need a Beta tester for an email program I’d be happy to volunteer. But I guess about 10 million other people would to. I know a lot of people who switched from MS Office to Open Office. Thanks for a GREAT product. Jim Smith Lafayette,TN 37083 615-688-4172
3.4.1
since installing the new software it will not load and we constantly get virtual c++ run time errors in several of the platforms within 3.4.1 it will be uninstalled until a fix is available
Re: Email.............
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:12 PM, jim smith jno...@hotmail.com wrote: . 1 question, will you ever have a email program to add on the Open Office? I hope not. There´s good open source software for e-mail. Mozilla´s Thunderbird is an example. They released v15.0 over a week ago http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/15.0/ Otherwise we end up fulfilling Jamie Zawinski s law of software bloat... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski#Zawinski.27s_law_of_software_envelopment FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell
[Bugzilla ADMINS] Remove the MySQL Connector/OOo from bugzilla
Hi, As part of the moving of MySQL native sdbc driver from AOO to AOO-extras: http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/ I reviewed all bugs relating to native driver, closed as wontfix here, all unconfirmed or confirmed bugs with related to native driver. During the review process I removed the MySQL Connector/OOo label and set as none, if the bug was connected to other part of AOO Base, and not connected the MySQL native driver. Created new issues on AOO-extras which I found as not solved: See issues from 2 to 6: http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/issues/list Now I finished this work, MySQL Connector/OOo needs to make unselectable when you submiting a new bug. Please do it. Thanks, Zoltan
Re: [EXTENSION] LanguageTool in AOO
2012/9/9 Marco A.G.Pinto marcoagpi...@mail.telepac.pt Hello! LanguageTool extension ( http://www.languagetool.org ) no longer freezes on AOO 3.4.1 . Could it be added as default to the next release? Thanks! Kind regards, Marco A.G.Pinto --- IMO, it is not that easy: LT is LGPL, which is not compatible with the Apache license. Being a real software I don't think the mere aggregation argument is valid here, as it was for dictionaries. Regards Ricardo
Re: 3.4.1
2012/9/9 The Klinger's robn...@comcast.net: since installing the new software it will not load Try resetting the user profile http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=12426 and we constantly get virtual c++ run time errors in several of the platforms within 3.4.1 Errors in general or errors only when trying to run AOO? Regards Ricardo it will be uninstalled until a fix is available
Re: [Bugzilla ADMINS] Remove the MySQL Connector/OOo from bugzilla
On 9/9/2012 07:17, Reizinger Zoltán wrote: Hi, As part of the moving of MySQL native sdbc driver from AOO to AOO-extras: http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/ I reviewed all bugs relating to native driver, closed as wontfix here, all unconfirmed or confirmed bugs with related to native driver. During the review process I removed the MySQL Connector/OOo label and set as none, if the bug was connected to other part of AOO Base, and not connected the MySQL native driver. Created new issues on AOO-extras which I found as not solved: See issues from 2 to 6: http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/issues/list Now I finished this work, MySQL Connector/OOo needs to make unselectable when you submiting a new bug. Please do it. Thanks, Zoltan The database access sub-component MySQL etc. has been disabled for new bugs. /tj/
Re: Email.............
Hi, you may want to use Thunderbird for a mail program. I've been using it for years without problems. You'll get it for free on the Mozilla homepage. Max Am 09.09.2012 04:12, schrieb jim smith: Hello, I’ve got to tell you, Open Office is the best office software ever. I used MS OFFICE for 9 years, but that because of OUTLOOK. But now my OUTLOOK is corrupt I can’t use it anymore so I’m using my Open Office now. 1 question, will you ever have a email program to add on the Open Office? If you need a Beta tester for an email program I’d be happy to volunteer. But I guess about 10 million other people would to. I know a lot of people who switched from MS Office to Open Office. Thanks for a GREAT product. Jim Smith Lafayette,TN 37083 615-688-4172
Re: [EXTENSION] LanguageTool in AOO
RGB ES wrote: 2012/9/9 Marco A.G.Pintomarcoagpi...@mail.telepac.pt LanguageTool extension ( http://www.languagetool.org ) no longer freezes on AOO 3.4.1 . Could it be added as default to the next release? IMO, it is not that easy: LT is LGPL, which is not compatible with the Apache license. Being a real software I don't think the mere aggregation argument is valid here, as it was for dictionaries. In itself, the mere aggregation concept, as defined by the GPL (and LGPL) holds in exactly the same way for dictionaries and software. But indeed LEGAL-117 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117 concerns only dictionaries, so we have asked (and obtained) legal approval from Apache Legal for dictionaries only. That said, LanguageTool depends on Java too, so it's unlikely that we will want to include it in OpenOffice by default. But it's very convenient to download it from http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/languagetool and a link to the Extensions website is already shown on the download page. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks
Am 09/08/2012 11:06 PM, schrieb TJ Frazier: On 9/8/2012 16:50, tj wrote: On 9/8/2012 12:01, David McKay wrote: On 08/09/12 06:50, Rob Weir wrote: I'm raising my focus a little in this project to look more into some larger ecosystem opportunities. As part of this change in focus I'll have less time to deal with day-to-day operational aspects of the project. So I'd like to shed some responsibilities and I hope there are volunteers able or willing to learn to pick up the following: 1. List moderation. I intend to stop moderating dev, users, marketing, qa and private. 2. Bugzilla Admin I can probably help out on this item, if someone can send me some details of what is involved/expected (I have been a Bugzilla admin as part of a paid role in a previous job). Dave. Hi, Dave, I remember your previous posts on this, and your help will be very welcome. I am totally ignorant of the underlying code, so as a BZ admin I stick to the little day-to-day stuff: adding privileges or deleting too-personal attachments. Others are of course welcome to do those, too; if I don't know somebody from the list, I generally wait three days (lazy consensus) and add privileges if nobody objects. Some of the larger things which have been done by others (including Rob) involve adding fields or groups, and adding values to field lists (e.g. 3.4.1 to the version options). If you are not already an admin, let me know your BZ id. Never mind, found it. Welcome to BZ admin. --/tj/ In the past I requested this and that in BZ. Maybe time to do it myself? ;-) So, if you still need help please add me as BZ admin. My spare time is limited but little BZ things to maintain should still fit into this. Thanks Marcus
Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks
Am 09/08/2012 07:50 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: I'm raising my focus a little in this project to look more into some larger ecosystem opportunities. As part of this change in focus I'll have less time to deal with day-to-day operational aspects of the project. So I'd like to shed some responsibilities and I hope there are volunteers able or willing to learn to pick up the following: 1. List moderation. I intend to stop moderating dev, users, marketing, qa and private. 2. Bugzilla Admin See my other answer to TJ. 3. Taking the lead on the AOO Security team, tracking vulnerability reports, writing disclosure bulletins, coordinating with security analysts and related open source projects. 4. Generally making sure things don't fall through the cracks. For example, look at posts from a week ago and see which ones have not been responded to. Look at trademark, press, movie property requests, etc. and make sure necessary workflow and approvals are secured. Because of the fast scroll rate of our posts, if someone is not proactive about such things they will be overlooked. 5. I have a couple blog posts in progress. I'll finish those. But we really could use some more content. This is something anyone can do. Maybe even turn your ApacheCon abstracts into a blog post with a link to you full presentation? 6. Tracking project metrics for downloads, committers, etc. I could takeover the metrics for downloads. Maybe Kay wants to help, too? ;-) Perhaps a few other things as well, but that is a start. Regards, Rob Marcus
Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?
On 09/07/2012 04:22 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: I'm not particularly satisfied with current PMC selection process. I think the first pass was actually fairly reasonable, and fairly quickly resulted in a list that contains the people who are serious about the project. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to find consensus on the next step. I'd like to propose a different way to look at this which may lead us to a better way to move forward. I think we can avoid the need to organize the next step around '-1' (i.e. speaking out against potential PMC members - discussions around who to leave off), and instead create an affirmative process where we identify who we want on. What is a good Project Management Committee? Here's my start (please expand on this): * Representative of the diversity of tasks in the community (developers, web/wiki/forum, translators, testers, UX, release, marketing, press, ecosystem, infrastructure) * Representative of the geographical diversity in the community * Made up of the most involved members of the community * Able and Competent to perform required ASF functions (overseeing releases and developing the community) * Represents the community in the best possible light While on one hand I understand why so many of us want to be on the PMC, a large PMC is not necessarily in the best interest of the project. The PMC should not be making decisions about the direction of the project and on who gets to do what - the PMC should be mostly involved with voting in new committers and approving releases. The direction of the project should be determined on ooo-dev, and by the people who are active in the parts of the community listed above. My Proposal for the next step in the PMC selection process: I suggest that each of us provide up to 10 names for the PMC. no spreadsheet - no voting - no '-1s' for now. Just an affirmative list of the 10 people you think should be doing the work of the PMC. (the list of names we have produced so far is a great place to start for your list, but it is not exclusive) Anyone can play! PPMC members, committers, the community. Next we use this to produce a list of the group getting the most votes. (using PPMC and committer lists as more binding) We can use this to produce the next pass at the proposed PMC roster, hopefully a PMC of around 20 members. If we are doing this then the list should start with the full current list of committers all as candidates. Contributors lists are tabulated separately and compared. (Apache Flex did something similar for a logo contest.) If a non-committer is selected that would be unusual, but not a problem. (Maybe an mail archive access issue, but that is Infra and should not be a concern.) Make the list 10. If someone can't come up with 10 then let's allow repeat names. No voting for yourself. No reason not to have a public vote. We can repeat it on an annual basis. If a PMC has trouble passing releases then we discuss on the dev list. Regards, Dave Andrew I think Andrew's idea has a lot of merit, and we should try this. Dave's advice about using the committer list for selection seems the most reasonable way to start. With the list of PMC attributes here, I think this will be a great way to get input from everyone. -- MzK We never sit anything out. We are cups, constantly and quietly being filled. The trick is, knowing how to tip ourselves over and let the beautiful stuff out. -- Ray Bradbury, Zen in the Art of Writing
Re: [EXT] MySQL SDBC Connector
Hi Ariel; - Original Message - ... Hi Mechtilde, On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:38:42AM +0200, Mechtilde wrote: thanks for the good job. So it is possible to use further the mysql-connector. Can you also publish the source code for the connector. Then other people are also able to distribute it. I'm working on it, I have to investigate if a can let the license header we use in AOO (I also added it to the files I added). I've just enabled the Source tab on the project, it can be cloned with: git clone https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/ I guess it will be a license soup but that is OK since ALv2 is GPL compatible. I wonder, is there code that we can remove from AOO now? A source tarball will have to wait until I solve this license thing, and write the readme, notice, license, etc., and the extension is ready to be release (it isn't still ready for a release). If anyone is willing to contribute with code, qa, bug report, please send me a note (you will need a google account). I would like to try building it on FreeBSD but I will have to wait until a src tarball is available. Cheers, Pedro.
Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks
On 08/09/12 22:06, TJ Frazier wrote: On 9/8/2012 16:50, tj wrote: On 9/8/2012 12:01, David McKay wrote: On 08/09/12 06:50, Rob Weir wrote: I'm raising my focus a little in this project to look more into some larger ecosystem opportunities. As part of this change in focus I'll have less time to deal with day-to-day operational aspects of the project. So I'd like to shed some responsibilities and I hope there are volunteers able or willing to learn to pick up the following: 1. List moderation. I intend to stop moderating dev, users, marketing, qa and private. 2. Bugzilla Admin I can probably help out on this item, if someone can send me some details of what is involved/expected (I have been a Bugzilla admin as part of a paid role in a previous job). Dave. Hi, Dave, I remember your previous posts on this, and your help will be very welcome. I am totally ignorant of the underlying code, so as a BZ admin I stick to the little day-to-day stuff: adding privileges or deleting too-personal attachments. Others are of course welcome to do those, too; if I don't know somebody from the list, I generally wait three days (lazy consensus) and add privileges if nobody objects. Some of the larger things which have been done by others (including Rob) involve adding fields or groups, and adding values to field lists (e.g. 3.4.1 to the version options). If you are not already an admin, let me know your BZ id. Never mind, found it. Welcome to BZ admin. --/tj/ Great, thank you. I'm on vacation right now and away from home, so my access to email and the net are sporadic. Thanks for the inclusion to BZ Admin.
Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks
On 09/09/12 17:19, David McKay wrote: On 08/09/12 22:06, TJ Frazier wrote: On 9/8/2012 16:50, tj wrote: On 9/8/2012 12:01, David McKay wrote: On 08/09/12 06:50, Rob Weir wrote: I'm raising my focus a little in this project to look more into some larger ecosystem opportunities. As part of this change in focus I'll have less time to deal with day-to-day operational aspects of the project. So I'd like to shed some responsibilities and I hope there are volunteers able or willing to learn to pick up the following: 1. List moderation. I intend to stop moderating dev, users, marketing, qa and private. 2. Bugzilla Admin I can probably help out on this item, if someone can send me some details of what is involved/expected (I have been a Bugzilla admin as part of a paid role in a previous job). Dave. Hi, Dave, I remember your previous posts on this, and your help will be very welcome. I am totally ignorant of the underlying code, so as a BZ admin I stick to the little day-to-day stuff: adding privileges or deleting too-personal attachments. Others are of course welcome to do those, too; if I don't know somebody from the list, I generally wait three days (lazy consensus) and add privileges if nobody objects. Some of the larger things which have been done by others (including Rob) involve adding fields or groups, and adding values to field lists (e.g. 3.4.1 to the version options). If you are not already an admin, let me know your BZ id. Never mind, found it. Welcome to BZ admin. --/tj/ Great, thank you. I'm on vacation right now and away from home, so my access to email and the net are sporadic. Thanks for the inclusion to BZ Admin. I just checked and I do indeed have admin rights. Is there a list somewhere of things that need doing, or do they arrive in an ad-hoc fashion? And is there a list of the BZ admins so we all know who the others are? Dave.
Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks
Hi, Some comments on the coverage so far. On Sep 7, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I'm raising my focus a little in this project to look more into some larger ecosystem opportunities. As part of this change in focus I'll have less time to deal with day-to-day operational aspects of the project. So I'd like to shed some responsibilities and I hope there are volunteers able or willing to learn to pick up the following: 1. List moderation. I intend to stop moderating dev, users, marketing, qa and private. This is being handled. 2. Bugzilla Admin As is this one. 3. Taking the lead on the AOO Security team, tracking vulnerability reports, writing disclosure bulletins, coordinating with security analysts and related open source projects. Here is where we need volunteers. This is an area where of necessity little is known of the activity until a release is made. It is a developer / tester area. 4. Generally making sure things don't fall through the cracks. For example, look at posts from a week ago and see which ones have not been responded to. Look at trademark, press, movie property requests, etc. and make sure necessary workflow and approvals are secured. Because of the fast scroll rate of our posts, if someone is not proactive about such things they will be overlooked. I think that this is both an automatic role of all (P)PMC members and the role of community manager in the [DISCUSS] defining roles 5. I have a couple blog posts in progress. I'll finish those. But we really could use some more content. This is something anyone can do. Maybe even turn your ApacheCon abstracts into a blog post with a link to you full presentation? I think that this is also a role that any (P)PMC member can perform, but fits within the role of marketing in the [DISCUSS] defining roles 6. Tracking project metrics for downloads, committers, etc. This has volunteers as well. Perhaps a few other things as well, but that is a start. We can all acknowledge that Rob has done a huge amount of work supporting the OpenOffice project! It is truly appreciated. Regards, Dave Regards, Rob
RE: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks
I think it is important to appreciate that project participation on ooo-security does require membership on the [P]PMC. The security@ apache.org list also has oversight on ooo-security@ i.a.o. The work on ooo-security has accountability to the PPMC. There are special arrangements that go with developing and slip-streaming fixes into releases and staging disclosure. Even after repairs in a release are disclosed, much of the activity and many details remain behind-the-scenes. In order to support intake of new ooo-security contributors, provide for backup of responsibilities within the team, and also clarify how the security team accounts to the [P]PMC, the working of these arrangements probably needs to be documented in some way (without discussing vulnerabilities themselves), including the approach to cooperation with those reporting vulnerabilities/exploits and coordination with other projects (mainly via the officesecurity@ lists.freedesktop.org list) on cases of mutual importance -- a common occurrence. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 09:46 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks Hi, Some comments on the coverage so far. On Sep 7, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: [ ... ] 3. Taking the lead on the AOO Security team, tracking vulnerability reports, writing disclosure bulletins, coordinating with security analysts and related open source projects. Here is where we need volunteers. This is an area where of necessity little is known of the activity until a release is made. It is a developer / tester area. [ ... ]
Re: [EXT] MySQL SDBC Connector
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hi Mechtilde, On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:38:42AM +0200, Mechtilde wrote: thanks for the good job. So it is possible to use further the mysql-connector. Can you also publish the source code for the connector. Then other people are also able to distribute it. I'm working on it, I have to investigate if a can let the license header we use in AOO (I also added it to the files I added). I've just enabled the Source tab on the project, it can be cloned with: git clone https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/ A source tarball will have to wait until I solve this license thing, and write the readme, notice, license, etc., and the extension is ready to be release (it isn't still ready for a release). If anyone is willing to contribute with code, qa, bug report, please send me a note (you will need a google account). Hi Ariel, would you be interested in managing the AOO Extension page dedicated to the MySQL connector? At the present stage is unmaintained, I believe you'd be the 'natural' candidate for that. Roberto Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [QA][Call-For-Review] Bug 120811 - [testgui] open save sample files via gui
I'm not finding testlib.gui.AppUtil used in: import static testlib.gui.AppUtil.*; On 09/04/2012 10:27 PM, Xiao Ting Xiao wrote: Hi all, Please help to review the patch: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120811 The patch is to test open save sample files, it support: - read sample files list from .suite file - download sample files from ftp server - test all kinds of sample files in one class file
Re: Duplicate code in module binfilter [was: Re: svn commit: r1379349 - in /incubator/ooo/trunk/main: offapi/com/sun/star/sheet/ offapi/type_reference/ oox/inc/oox/xls/ oox/source/xls/ sc/inc/ sc/sour
On 09/07/2012 01:46 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 04/09/2012 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: There is a misunderstanding. The module binfilter contains the needed code to import/export legacy binary StarOffice file format in order to remove this code from the main code base. Module binflter is more or less a dead module, which hopefully can be removed in some future major version. There's an important detail not to miss in Oliver's message: we are talking about the StarOffice formats, not the OpenOffice formats. In other words: - obviously the current format (ODT, ODS, ODP...) will be supported - the older OpenOffice 1.x format (SXW, SXC, SXI) will be supported - the ancient StarOffice format (SDW, SDC, SDA) is the one being discussed here; if I recall correctly, it's the pre-2000 format used by StarOffice up to version 5, before the code was relicensed and OpenOffice started. OpenOffice already has a built-in document converter to convert these files to ODF. Regards, Andrea. I had forgotten about the document converter. Never occurred to me that it would handle the older documents. I am currently converting about 1000 old documents. Nice that it can recurs directories. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: Clipart library
On 3 September 2012 02:19, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG03 - see comments inline On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 August 2012 02:20, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG02 -see comments inline. On Friday, August 31, 2012 x-apple-data-detectors://45, Ian Lynch wrote: On 30 August 2012 09:57, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: I'm organising the Open clipart library into categories. We could use this then as a useful resource to complement AOO. KG01 - This adds a lot of value. Ideally we could aim to align the information architecture for the categorization. This would allow users to leverage the existing knowledge when browse in each library. Any thoughts about the best way to implement making the categorised library available to the community? KG01 - it would be great to explore ways to make the open clip art more accessible/discoverable within AoO clipart view. Some social integration could enable pulling clipart into editors, or pushing an image from an editor to the open library. While we could create a plug-in, it would be a better unified ux if we integrate open clip art and local clipart in one UI. At present I'm just going through all the folders from OpenClipart.org and putting them into arbitrary folders labelled Animals, People, Transport, Food etc. This is because each contributor simply puts often unconnected files in a folder so images on OpenClipart.org are grouped by author not type (unless I'm missiong something :-) ). While there are some aggregations and an on-line indexing system on the OpenClipart.org site I haven't found it particularly easy to find things. It seems easier to me to have a folder called eg Animals with sub folders for birds, insects, mammals, perhaps with subdivisions of cartoon and realistic in each. There are png and svg versions of each image. Ideally we'll get import of svg to AOO so that these can be edited or resaved in odg or odg will develop to be fully svg compliant but I guess that is further down the development road. Once we have the categories established they could be embedded in the AOO gallery system and anyone wanting to could add to the library to complement missing items. Probably helpful for the OpenClipArt project too. There really are masses of images to sort through but a lot of duplicates - millions of pencils and pens :-) This is why a visual search of a folder called pens is probably going to be more successful than trying to search for key words. KG02 - yes, it would be great to clean this up So at the moment I propose to plough on sorting the images and hopefully when they are done someone (perhaps you kevin :-) ) Who knows more about how the UX can work with the imagescan help make it easy to integrate into the gallery. KG02 - This is an interesting consideration. When we think about social, we need to apply the social integration to the context of office productivity. I feel that social clip art is a great example of future capabilities. KG02 - I will include this scenario in the social design explorations. Once I have finished first iteration of sorting I'll send you the details so you can see what we have. KG03 - Ian, great job. Ya, reach out to me when your further along. In the interim, I'll capture a clipart social scenario. I have put the sorted clip art in a zip file in my public drop box folder http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1115462/casource.zip Snag is it is 360 meg! So not sure what is the best approach for dealing with it. Could probably do with further sorting but at least there is a good start so anyone could refine it to their particular needs much more quickly than starting from scratch. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: *** Warning: .LOW_RESOLUTION_TIME
Hi, Ariel Constenla-Haile schrieb: Hi Regina, On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 01:18:07PM +0200, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi all, building with MSVC 2008 express on WinXP, I get a lot of warnings of the kind: make: *** Warning: .LOW_RESOLUTION_TIME file `path part/solver/350/wntmsci12/path part` has a high resolution time stamp It builds and the build is usable nevertheless. What does this warning mean? Is there a way to avoid it? See http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Environment_Effort/Status_And_Next_Steps#Detected_problems.2C_caveats_and_known_issues workaround: setting the environment variable gb_HIRESTIME=TRUE silences the warning (but enables checking of sub-second parts); in case this causes permanent re-delivery of files to solver because the tools have different resolutions (e.g. micro seconds vs. nano seconds), you can't use the workaround and have to live with the warning; this case was found in builds over nfs on Solaris Intel. Thanks for the pointer. So no real error, but gives larger log files. Kind regards Regina
Re: [DISCUSS] defining roles for management, coordination, work items...
On 09/08/2012 02:15 PM, tj wrote: On 9/8/2012 13:50, Dave Fisher wrote: On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, I would like to give my thoughts on defining roles for management, ... as the thread Specific actions needed for developing the community tends to become a general one on this topic. For me we, the AOO community, need to have an idea about the different roles which need to be fullfilled to drive our project: - role of developer - role of forum admin - role of tester - role of UX practitioners - role of release manager - role of community manager internal / project(?) - role of marketing person external / ecosystem(?) - role of press contact - role of distribution manager - role of buildbot admin - ... role of translators (l10n) role of infrastructure role of moderators for various MLs role of Mwiki admin (mostly me, now; help welcome) role of BZ admin (doing a little of that, just added Dave McKay) /tj/ From my point of view these are more or less areas of the project which need to be fullfilled with certain actions and coordination. What I do not believe is that we need to assign certain individuals on these roles (*). I agree with Jürgen that certain individuals will grow their expertise in a certain role/area and as a contributor will take action or raise flag due to lack of resources, knowlegde, ... I think we already had quite a couple of good examples for such a habit. But, I also have to admit that for certain other roles we did not yet succeed as we could and should. And here comes the responsibility of the (P)PMC - its management duty, if you want. The (P)PMC as a group takes care that the roles are fullfilled. E.g., by raising a corresponding gap on ooo-dev, by calling for discussion and volunteers, by leveraging new and/or established members. My thoughts are also based on the fact that Apache had only two roles in a project to by assigned to a certain individual - the PMC chair and the release manager. As pointed out above, I think that we need to work out the need and the working tasks for certain roles in our project. This work out is from my point of view a community task which could or may be should be driven by the current PPMC in order to demonstrate our self-governance. This is good. I think that there are four parts in no particular order. We've done a lot of definition already. This is about reorganizing and formalizing the arrangement. Some of these teams of role players will be small and some large. (1) Defining the role so that any volunteer can know how to start helping. (2) Defining who on the (P)PMC will have oversight with the charge of guiding volunteers and identifying committers. This person should be a player-coach and not a manager. (3) Defining workflow around these roles. Different sets of roles will need to work together. (A) Developing a Release - developer, tester, ux, buildbot. (B) Building / Passing a Release - buildbot, release, community. (C) Distributing a Release - distribution, infrastructure, marketing, press. (D) Supporting Users - forum, tester, ux, community, marketing. (4) What infrastructure the role uses. I think that this should be documented in the incubator website at least for overview and navigation about project roles. Each group that self-organizes around a role should use whatever project resource makes sense for them. Regards, Dave Best regards, Oliver. This thread is really tremendous work in my opinion! Both the roles and the workflow groupings! Documenting it on the incubator website would be most excellent. (*) except the ones for the PMC chair and the release manager, of course, as they are part of the Apache Way. -- MzK We never sit anything out. We are cups, constantly and quietly being filled. The trick is, knowing how to tip ourselves over and let the beautiful stuff out. -- Ray Bradbury, Zen in the Art of Writing
Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators
I'd like to be moderator for ooo-qa list 2012/9/9 Dave Barton d...@tasit.net Original Message From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:41:07 -0700 Hi - Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.) I think the action list and number of moderators needed is: ooo-commits - 2 ooo-dev - 1 ooo-issues - 2 ooo-notifications - 2 ooo-private - 2 ooo-security - 2 ooo-users - 2 ooo-users-fr - ? Below I put a ? where I think we need people ooo-announce imacat robweir - Rob did not include this in his list. ? ooo-commits danese - Mentor robweir ? ? ooo-dev robweir danese - mentor pj ? ? ooo-general-es arielch juanm...@gmail.com ooo-general-ja khirano maho ooo-geral-ptbr bino28 filhocf lcolui...@gmail.com ooo-issues danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-l10n khirano paolopoz robweir yo ooo-marketing bmcs yo jsc jza khirano pj robweir si...@webmink.com ooo-notifications danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-private robweir danese - mentor jsc orcmid ? Louis? ? ooo-progetto-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti ooo-qa lilyzh...@gmail.com maho robweir ooo-security malte robweir ? Who is left on this list as subscribers? ooo-users khirano orcmid pj robweir si...@webmink.com ? ooo-users-de mikeadvo rbircher ooo-users-fr ericb2 - resigned from ppmc / committer. vince...@laposte.net water...@sunrise.ch What are we doing with the French list. Anyone know? ooo-utenti-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti Regards, Dave Hi Dave, It looks like we are a little short of moderators for the dev and ooo-users lists, probably the ones requiring the most moderation. I am UTC+1 already a moderator for the marketing list (bmcs) and am willing take on additional moderation for these two list. Regards Dave -- Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
Re: [QA][Call-For-Review] Bug 120811 - [testgui] open save sample files via gui
Hi Carl Xiao Ting, I refactored the whole test/testgui to unify the naming last week. So the name has been changed to AppTool. 2012/9/10 Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org: I'm not finding testlib.gui.AppUtil used in: import static testlib.gui.AppUtil.*; On 09/04/2012 10:27 PM, Xiao Ting Xiao wrote: Hi all, Please help to review the patch: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120811 The patch is to test open save sample files, it support: - read sample files list from .suite file - download sample files from ftp server - test all kinds of sample files in one class file -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators
Thanks very much for the list, Dave! I wonder if it is proper to publish the ML moderator list (at least for those public MLs) on a wiki, so that it can be easily maintained and updated on time? - Simon 2012/9/9 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net Hi - Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.) I think the action list and number of moderators needed is: ooo-commits - 2 ooo-dev - 1 ooo-issues - 2 ooo-notifications - 2 ooo-private - 2 ooo-security - 2 ooo-users - 2 ooo-users-fr - ? Below I put a ? where I think we need people ooo-announce imacat robweir - Rob did not include this in his list. ? ooo-commits danese - Mentor robweir ? ? ooo-dev robweir danese - mentor pj ? ? ooo-general-es arielch juanm...@gmail.com ooo-general-ja khirano maho ooo-geral-ptbr bino28 filhocf lcolui...@gmail.com ooo-issues danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-l10n khirano paolopoz robweir yo ooo-marketing bmcs yo jsc jza khirano pj robweir si...@webmink.com ooo-notifications danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-private robweir danese - mentor jsc orcmid ? Louis? ? ooo-progetto-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti ooo-qa lilyzh...@gmail.com maho robweir ooo-security malte robweir ? Who is left on this list as subscribers? ooo-users khirano orcmid pj robweir si...@webmink.com ? ooo-users-de mikeadvo rbircher ooo-users-fr ericb2 - resigned from ppmc / committer. vince...@laposte.net water...@sunrise.ch What are we doing with the French list. Anyone know? ooo-utenti-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti Regards, Dave
[Call-for-Review] issue 119457 - [From Symphony] Import .xlsx file, chart legend position will be changed from top right to right.
Hi all, I have a fix to for bug 119457, please review the patch attached to: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119457https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119612 Thanks in advance. -- * mailto: *aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com https://google.com/profiles https://google.com/profiles
Re: [Call for Test] [Feature]Add the List Level attribute for paragraph styles in Aoo Writer
I has reviewed the feature scope,and prepared test case in Test Link-http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/lib/general/frmWorkArea.php?feature=editTcTest Specification--AOO Writer-Styles and Formatting-List style as below http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Huaidong Qiu qiuhuaid...@gmail.com wrote: issue link https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120620 Scope: 1)The list level attribute of para style will be exported to odt with defined format. 2)The exported list level attribute of para style will be imported into data model of Aoo Writer successfully 3)The list level attribute of para style will be recorded in data model of Aoo Writer Wiki: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/NumberingEnhancementforMSInteroperability
[QA Report] The TOC fidelity enhancement in MSO Word 2003 binary format importing/exporting
Hi All, Here is the report of TOC fidelity enhancement in MSO Word 2003 binary format importing/exporting. Please review. 1. Total test case number: 24 2. Total execution number: 48 3. Testing platforms - SuSE Linux 64-bit - Windows XP - Ubuntu Linux 32-bit - Windows 7 - MacOS X - Redhat Linux 32-bit 4. Pass rate: 92% 5. Bug analysis Totally 10 bugs were opened. 2 of them maybe feature related, others can be reproduced in build AOO 341 1372282, so they are not feature related bug. Feature related bugs: *Bug 120843* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120843 - [writer001] indent between number and title in TOC entry becomes small after update TOC *Bug 120845* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120845 - [writer001] some TOC entry's styles lost after update TOC when open doc in AOO Non-feature bugs: *Bug 120838* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120838 - TOC's title in doc file created via MS Word 2010 was collected into TOC entry after update *Bug 120841* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120841 - TOC's spacing between following content increased a lot after update when open doc file created via previous OpenOffice *Bug 120842* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120842 - TOC's position changed after export doc created by OpenOffice 1.1 to another doc and open via MS Word 2003 *Bug 120846* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120846 - indent between bullet and title in TOC entry becomes larger when open doc in AOO and update TOC *Bug 120774* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120774 - Comment line with heading style was collected into TOC when open doc file in AOO and update TOC *Bug 120775* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120775 - Tab stop appeared after update TOC when open doc in AOO *Bug 120777* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120777 - paragraph's outline level lost after open doc with TOC in AOO *Bug 120778* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120778 - paragraph's outline level lost after export doc to doc in AOO Thanks Xiao ting Xiao
[QA Report]Name Scope enhancement for spreadsheet
Hi All, Here is the report of Name Scope enhancement for spreadsheet Please review. 1. Total test case number: 11 2. Total execution number: 22 3. Testing platforms - SuSE Linux 64-bit - Windows XP - Ubuntu Linux 32-bit - Windows 7 - MacOS X - Redhat Linux 32-bit 4. Pass rate: 55% 5. Bug analysis Totally 3 bugs were opened. 1 of them maybe feature related, others can be reproduced in build AOO 341 1372282, so they are not feature related bug. Feature related bug: Bug 120818 - When import the saved .ods file which contain duplicate names, it will not update and refresh the formula result This bug make lost of case fail in export .ods and import the saved .ods file. Other bug Bug 120820 - Define name which cell range in other file will saved incorrect to .xls and .ods Bug 120860 - AOO can't change define names, we can only change define names cell range Thanks, Terry Yang
Re: [EXT] MySQL SDBC Connector
On 07/09/2012 Alex Thurgood wrote: On 07/09/2012 03:50, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: I managed to build the MySQL Connector extension and make it work on Thanks, great news! Indeed there were quite a few request for an updated version. A nice to have would be for Mac OSX too ;-) I see one (which I couldn't try) at http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/downloads/list ; so apparently all platforms supported by the old MySQL connector are now supported by Ariel's updated version too. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [QA Report] The TOC fidelity enhancement in MSO Word 2003 binary format importing/exporting
Xiao Ting, Thanks very much for the detail report. 2012/9/10 Xiao Ting Xiao tingxi...@gmail.com Hi All, Here is the report of TOC fidelity enhancement in MSO Word 2003 binary format importing/exporting. Please review. 1. Total test case number: 24 2. Total execution number: 48 3. Testing platforms - SuSE Linux 64-bit - Windows XP - Ubuntu Linux 32-bit - Windows 7 - MacOS X - Redhat Linux 32-bit 4. Pass rate: 92% 5. Bug analysis Totally 10 bugs were opened. 2 of them maybe feature related, others can be reproduced in build AOO 341 1372282, so they are not feature related bug. Feature related bugs: *Bug 120843* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120843 - [writer001] indent between number and title in TOC entry becomes small after update TOC *Bug 120845* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120845 - [writer001] some TOC entry's styles lost after update TOC when open doc in AOO Non-feature bugs: *Bug 120838* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120838 - TOC's title in doc file created via MS Word 2010 was collected into TOC entry after update *Bug 120841* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120841 - TOC's spacing between following content increased a lot after update when open doc file created via previous OpenOffice *Bug 120842* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120842 - TOC's position changed after export doc created by OpenOffice 1.1 to another doc and open via MS Word 2003 *Bug 120846* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120846 - indent between bullet and title in TOC entry becomes larger when open doc in AOO and update TOC *Bug 120774* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120774 - Comment line with heading style was collected into TOC when open doc file in AOO and update TOC *Bug 120775* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120775 - Tab stop appeared after update TOC when open doc in AOO *Bug 120777* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120777 - paragraph's outline level lost after open doc with TOC in AOO *Bug 120778* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120778 - paragraph's outline level lost after export doc to doc in AOO Thanks Xiao ting Xiao -- Thanks! Regards, DongJun Zong
