Re: Blog Created
Hi Gavin McDonald san http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ I have just made a blog post with Japanese letters in Title and Content on Apache OOo Weblog. Can you configure the Weblog and it can show Japanese correctly? Thanks, khirano
Re: Blog Created
I can see that the blog article was setup for Japanese (you can choose dozends of languages in the drop-down-box). But the editor seems to be unable to show these characters. Marcus Am 10/13/2011 06:15 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: Hi Gavin McDonald san http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ I have just made a blog post with Japanese letters in Title and Content on Apache OOo Weblog. Can you configure the Weblog and it can show Japanese correctly? Thanks, khirano
Re: Blog Created
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gavin McDonald san http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Do you know that this blog post was published and is live on the blog website? And went to the Apache planet aggregator, etc? If you want to do testing, then better to leave the post as a draft. Gavin can look at drafts as well. I have just made a blog post with Japanese letters in Title and Content on Apache OOo Weblog. Can you configure the Weblog and it can show Japanese correctly? Thanks, khirano
Re: Blog Created
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Ah well. I've seen those kinds of blogs, that are essentially announcements. So it is a notices mechanism with a syndication feed. I will have to go look at one of the ones that seems to get lots of hits according to the headline/summary aggregator. Wonder if they get much by way of comments apart from spam. (Some of the FOSS planets seem to work well but Planet Apache is [in]famously off topic) I'm from the Naked Conversations school of blogging, so I may have to take my crayons to some other place where I can ponder the fright, frustration, and outright fun on an Apache project, the OpenOffice.org podling in particular. Sounds just about right for the committers aggregator[1] All committers welcome :-) See [2] for how to add a feed Robert [1] http://planet.apache.org/committers/ [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/blogs.html#personal-blogs
Re: Blog Created
Hi Gavin, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If you want to do testing, then better to leave the post as a draft. Gavin can look at drafts as well. Saved as draft. Can you take a look at the draft? Thanks, khirano
Re: Blog Created
Gavin, Dave Fisher sent you a separate note on my behalf. Just in case you missed that, here's my direct request to be added to the Apache OpenOffice.org blog as an Author. I volunteered to take on the role of press liaison for the podling and need to get cracking with the blog. I'm also working in concert with Sally and the folks on press@ Thanks! /don On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.auwrote: Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
PRIORITY: OO.o blog/Roller access for Don Harbison? [was Re: Blog Created]
Hey Gavin and the Infra team -- Just so I understand, has a Roller account been set up for Don? Can he publish now? We're in a crunch regarding some publicly statements about OO.o and need to get some Apache responses up online soon. Thanks so much in advance for your help with this. Y'all are my heros :-) Cheers, Sally From: Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Cc: sallykhuda...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2011, 16:54 Subject: Re: Blog Created Gavin, Dave Fisher sent you a separate note on my behalf. Just in case you missed that, here's my direct request to be added to the Apache OpenOffice.org blog as an Author. I volunteered to take on the role of press liaison for the podling and need to get cracking with the blog. I'm also working in concert with Sally and the folks on press@ Thanks! /don On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
RE: PRIORITY: OO.o blog/Roller access for Don Harbison? [was Re: Blog Created]
Yes all done and ready to rock n roll Gav From: Sally Khudairi [mailto:s...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, 14 October 2011 7:06 AM To: Donald Harbison; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Cc: ASF Infrastructure Subject: PRIORITY: OO.o blog/Roller access for Don Harbison? [was Re: Blog Created] Hey Gavin and the Infra team -- Just so I understand, has a Roller account been set up for Don? Can he publish now? We're in a crunch regarding some publicly statements about OO.o and need to get some Apache responses up online soon. Thanks so much in advance for your help with this. Y'all are my heros :-) Cheers, Sally From: Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Cc: sallykhuda...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2011, 16:54 Subject: Re: Blog Created Gavin, Dave Fisher sent you a separate note on my behalf. Just in case you missed that, here's my direct request to be added to the Apache OpenOffice.org blog as an Author. I volunteered to take on the role of press liaison for the podling and need to get cracking with the blog. I'm also working in concert with Sally and the folks on press@ Thanks! /don On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
RE: Blog Created
I created an Infra issue and will look into it. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4036 -Original Message- From: Kazunari Hirano [mailto:khir...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 14 October 2011 6:33 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Hi Gavin, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If you want to do testing, then better to leave the post as a draft. Gavin can look at drafts as well. Saved as draft. Can you take a look at the draft? Thanks, khirano
RE: Blog Created]
Beautiful ... thank you, gentlemen! -Sally [from the mobile; pls pardon spacing/spelling errors] -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald Sent: 13/10/2011, 2:27 PM To: 'Sally Khudairi'; 'Donald Harbison'; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'ASF Infrastructure' Subject: RE: PRIORITY: OO.o blog/Roller access for Don Harbison? [was Re: Blog Created] Yes all done and ready to rock n roll Gav From: Sally Khudairi [mailto:s...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, 14 October 2011 7:06 AM To: Donald Harbison; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Cc: ASF Infrastructure Subject: PRIORITY: OO.o blog/Roller access for Don Harbison? [was Re: Blog Created] Hey Gavin and the Infra team -- Just so I understand, has a Roller account been set up for Don? Can he publish now? We're in a crunch regarding some publicly statements about OO.o and need to get some Apache responses up online soon. Thanks so much in advance for your help with this. Y'all are my heros :-) Cheers, Sally From: Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Cc: sallykhuda...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2011, 16:54 Subject: Re: Blog Created Gavin, Dave Fisher sent you a separate note on my behalf. Just in case you missed that, here's my direct request to be added to the Apache OpenOffice.org blog as an Author. I volunteered to take on the role of press liaison for the podling and need to get cracking with the blog. I'm also working in concert with Sally and the folks on press@ Thanks! /don On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
RE: Blog Created
Hopefully fixed (existing entries wont be fixed, new ones should be fine.) Please create another draft Japanese entry and test, Thanks Gav... -Original Message- From: Kazunari Hirano [mailto:khir...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 14 October 2011 6:33 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Hi Gavin, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If you want to do testing, then better to leave the post as a draft. Gavin can look at drafts as well. Saved as draft. Can you take a look at the draft? Thanks, khirano
Re: Blog Created
Hi Gavin, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hopefully fixed (existing entries wont be fixed, new ones should be fine.) Thanks! I can read your Japanese インターネットをもっと快適にv :) Please create another draft Japanese entry and test, I will. Thanks, khirano
Re: Blog Created
Hi Gavin and all, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Please create another draft Japanese entry and test, http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Looks good! Thanks, khirano
RE: Blog Created
-Original Message- From: Kazunari Hirano [mailto:khir...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 14 October 2011 10:14 AM To: ga...@16degrees.com.au Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Hi Gavin and all, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Please create another draft Japanese entry and test, http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Looks good! Great, issue closed. Gav... Thanks, khirano
Re: Blog Created
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Dennis's post is now on the main www.apache.org webpage! Yeah! The Apache Blogs OOo! Therersquo;s a New Podling in the Nursery Incubator The Apache OpenOffice.org (incubator) project was born on Monday, June 13, 2011. Delivery was complicated. The baby’s doing fine. snip Anyone have some ideas for another post for the project's blog? Obviously, our main discussions and progress has been around web site, source code, issue tracking, support forum, etc., migration. It could be interesting to have a post that describes the scope of the effort, in terms of pages, hits/month, number of subsystems, etc., and how we're approaching the problem. It would be good to develop a regular heartbeat of posts, maybe a new blog post every two weeks or so. -Rob
Re: Blog Created
On 08/01/2011 02:19 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Dennis's post is now on the main www.apache.org webpage! Yeah! The Apache Blogs OOo! Therersquo;s a New Podling in the Nursery Incubator The Apache OpenOffice.org (incubator) project was born on Monday, June 13, 2011. Delivery was complicated. The baby’s doing fine. snip Anyone have some ideas for another post for the project's blog? Obviously, our main discussions and progress has been around web site, source code, issue tracking, support forum, etc., migration. It could be interesting to have a post that describes the scope of the effort, in terms of pages, hits/month, number of subsystems, etc., and how we're approaching the problem. It would be good to develop a regular heartbeat of posts, maybe a new blog post every two weeks or so. yes, it would... :) -Rob -- MzK If you can keep your head when all others around you are losing theirs - maybe you don't fully understand the situation! -- Unknown
RE: Blog Created
-Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 1:09 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: RE: Blog Created Ah well. I've seen those kinds of blogs, that are essentially announcements. So it is a notices mechanism with a syndication feed. I will have to go look at one of the ones that seems to get lots of hits according to the headline/summary aggregator. Wonder if they get much by way of comments apart from spam. I'm from the Naked Conversations school of blogging, so I may have to take my crayons to some other place where I can ponder the fright, frustration, and outright fun on an Apache project, the OpenOffice.org podling in particular. A project blog is just that, to talk about the project. Your initial blog did that, I'm not really sure what else you would expect. Gav... - Dennis -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 19:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Blog Created -Original Message- From: Andy Brown [mailto:a...@the-martin-byrd.net] Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 12:18 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache- oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. Ah well, - Dennis I would not say official but at least semi-official in that it would show, in a faster way, what we are doing and how things are going with the project. I think what you did was a good indication of the way it should go. That is my personal opinion and I my be off base here. +1 All blogs at blogs.apache.org are official in that they talk about the project, they don't wander off talking about some developers own thing etc etc... They can talk about releases as extra exposure - folks often subscribe to RSS feeds etc rather than keep looking to a website for an update. They can talk about what's happening currently, they can announce a new committer, a new up and coming feature or long awaited fix,etc etc.. What Dennis blogged IMO was spot on and a great start to the Apache OpenOffice[.org] blog. What Dave mentioned is also something some but not all projects do, and not all the time - that is to draft a blog announcement for something, then post a 'preview url' to the (this) dev list for opinions on changes/tweaks/etc before it goes live. That is ideally a tool on improving, extending and typechecking the blog post rather than opinions to veto it . HTH Gav... Andy
Re: Blog Created - Statistics
On 10 Jul 2011, at 05:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I don't know what to make of this. Interesting though. The numbers are going up across the board for the top 5. Europe is awake? Apart from foundation, blogs.apache.org doesn't have a history of being much used. Apache folks blog elsewhere, and planet apache aggregates. OOo may be setting a new trend by the mere act of focusing on it in a dev list! -- Nick Kew Available for work, contract or permanent http://www.webthing.com/~nick/cv.html
Re: Blog Created - Statistics
On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Nick Kew wrote: On 10 Jul 2011, at 05:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I don't know what to make of this. Interesting though. The numbers are going up across the board for the top 5. Europe is awake? Apart from foundation, blogs.apache.org doesn't have a history of being much used. Apache folks blog elsewhere, and planet apache aggregates. And I know why. The site is so unstable that I was not yet able to get its contents. Please do not make the URL published before the site is more stable. I get this: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /OOo/. Reason: Error reading from remote server Apache/2.0.63 Server at blogs.apache.org Port 443 -- Pavel Janík
Re: Blog Created - Statistics
The 'site' is as stable as it will ever get on current hardware, resource and volunteers. Hmm, OK. Maybe we do not need to run such intensive tasks like roller on it and just use some blog aggregation software which was determined as the best solution for our project in the past. We have had Planet OpenOffice.org... Unless this was your way of offering to help? I already offered my life to OOo 9 or so years ago, I can't offer more, sorry. -- Pavel Janík
Re: Blog Created
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? I think it will be seen that way by the reader, certainly. Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I thought your post was very nice and had the right tone. But I think we should try for the 3 day RTC in the future. Unlike a commit to the web site, we cannot easily revert a blog post, especially once it is syndicated and has been copied by various aggregators. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache-oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. There is already: http://planet.apache.org/ That includes a committers aggregator as well as a project aggregator. I run planet.opendocumentformat.org, and I can include our new AOOo blog. There is also Planet OpenOffice.org: http://planet.services.openoffice.org/ Who maintains that? Ah well, - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 15:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Gavin, Thanks! There is a page that describes how to prepare and preview a blog post. [1] Authors should read this and begin to put together our announcement. The page states A typical process is to create the blog post, set it up to publish in 3-4 days via the Advanced Settings, then post the modified preview URL to your dev@ list with the anticipated publish date for lazy consensus. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/blogs.html Regards, Dave On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
Re: Blog Created
On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.auwrote: Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav... Hi...I don't see that this is linked to anything? Well not any place on http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ Are there plans to do this? Good catch. For now I added the Project Blog to ooo/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext in the PPMC section. Since the primary purpose of the blog is make announcements I put it there. I think that the sidenav needs re-organization, but I think that needs to wait for some more serious design work. I hope my local website development instructions will help you get up to speed. Regards, Dave -- --- MzK He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good stuff, that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and I'll just start over kind of attitude. — 1 Dead in the Attic, Chris Rose
Re: Blog Created
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? I think it will be seen that way by the reader, certainly. Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I thought your post was very nice and had the right tone. But I think we should try for the 3 day RTC in the future. Unlike a commit to the web site, we cannot easily revert a blog post, especially once it is syndicated and has been copied by various aggregators. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache-oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. There is already: http://planet.apache.org/ That includes a committers aggregator as well as a project aggregator. I run planet.opendocumentformat.org, and I can include our new AOOo blog. There is also Planet OpenOffice.org: http://planet.services.openoffice.org/ Who maintains that? I think Martin Hollmichelmight be a good bet since this is where the contact us link goes. Ah well, - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 15:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Gavin, Thanks! There is a page that describes how to prepare and preview a blog post. [1] Authors should read this and begin to put together our announcement. The page states A typical process is to create the blog post, set it up to publish in 3-4 days via the Advanced Settings, then post the modified preview URL to your dev@ list with the anticipated publish date for lazy consensus. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/blogs.html Regards, Dave On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav... -- --- MzK He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good stuff, that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and I'll just start over kind of attitude. — 1 Dead in the Attic, Chris Rose
RE: Blog Created - Institutional byline?
Perhaps the creation of a uniform voice reflecting the project is best served by a comparable byline, rather than that of individuals. Something like ooo podling might be better. It might be a suitable byline used by authors of podling-reviewed posts. - Dennis ABOUT COMMENTS I see that today's status are climbing across the board. I checked out the comments of the currently-popular blogs that allow them. There aren't many comments and they are often banal or some diversion where commenters are talking among themselves (announcements on legal matters inspire that). The largest run of comments (85) are on the April 2010 Infra incident report on the Apache systems attack and compromise of the stored hashes for user-account passwords. It would seem that if comments are allowed, there should be attention to those that ask questions and formulations of responses as appropriate. If not, comments should probably be disabled and there be a masthead or sidebar on how to send comments to the attention of the ooo podling. -Original Message- From: rabas...@gmail.com [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rob Weir Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 05:43 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? I think it will be seen that way by the reader, certainly. Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I thought your post was very nice and had the right tone. But I think we should try for the 3 day RTC in the future. Unlike a commit to the web site, we cannot easily revert a blog post, especially once it is syndicated and has been copied by various aggregators. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache-oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. There is already: http://planet.apache.org/ That includes a committers aggregator as well as a project aggregator. I run planet.opendocumentformat.org, and I can include our new AOOo blog. There is also Planet OpenOffice.org: http://planet.services.openoffice.org/ Who maintains that? Ah well, - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 15:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Gavin, Thanks! There is a page that describes how to prepare and preview a blog post. [1] Authors should read this and begin to put together our announcement. The page states A typical process is to create the blog post, set it up to publish in 3-4 days via the Advanced Settings, then post the modified preview URL to your dev@ list with the anticipated publish date for lazy consensus. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/blogs.html Regards, Dave On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
Re: Blog Created
I would like to help to admin. So please give an account. My ID is marcus. Thanks Marcus Am 07/09/2011 12:07 PM, schrieb Gavin McDonald: Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
Re: Blog Created
Dennis's post is now on the main www.apache.org webpage! Yeah!
The Apache Blogs
OOo! Therersquo;s a New Podling in the Nursery Incubator
The Apache OpenOffice.org (incubator) project was born on Monday, June 13,
2011. Delivery was complicated. The baby’s doing fine.
Following the June 1, 2011 announcement of the license grant from...
Note that there is an issue with rsquo;
Which allows for a quick Apache CMS debugging lesson.
The markdown for that part of www.apache.org/index.html is this:
div id=impact class=grid_6
h4The Apache Blogs/h4
{% for e in planet.list %}
divh5a class=entryTitle href={{ e.url }}{{
e.title }}/a/h5
p{{ e.content|safe|truncatewords_html:30 }}/p
/div
hrbr /
{% endfor %}
div
{{ e.title }} escapes the character entity in the title as amp;rsquo;
From http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#autoescape we see that
this means that e.title was already escaped with replaced by amp;
Am I correct that this extra escape needs to be removed in either the building
of planet.list in the main apache site's view.pm or {{ e.title }} modified on
index.mdtext?
Otherwise blog author's have to know not to use those characters.
And there was a question about foreign language posts. I think these will
encounter similar issues.
Regards,
Dave
On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
And I can confirm that it is working, the full-post Atom feed is working, and
I can author from Windows Live Writer 2011. (For that last, praise be!)
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/ooo_there_rsquo_s_a
It looks like the CSS needs some tweaking: the right side bar drops down
depending on text width in the post content, the well-known CSS-blog-post
bugaboo. I have to make by browser window pretty wide before the sidebar
reappears adjacent to the content. I didn't enter anything that couldn't
have line-wrapped sooner, so this is apparently somewhere in the styling.
There are some differences between the Roller 5.0.0 documentation and how
this blog is set up that would have been handy to know.
When I saw that there were no options to switch between wysiwyg and raw HTML
modes, I was pretty certain that I was looking at a browser edit window that
expected raw HTML. It must be in the Apache chromosomes.
That is what drove me to see if I could get Windows Live Writer to hook up.
It managed to fish the styles from the site, but it was not able to connect
with categories or tags. There might be ways to get that working, but I am
content for now.
The Facebook button works (need Google+ now too, I suppose). I didn't try
the twitter button because that happens with a Live Writer plug-in I use.
The aggregation into the https://blogs.apache.org page is working too.
Next Exercise: See if the track-backs as comments work from elsewhere.
- Dennis
Ah: Small victories are such wonderful things. If I'm doing it wrong, just
don't tell me, K?
-Original Message-
From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 15:14
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Blog Created
-Original Message-
From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Blog Created
Hi All,
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/
Currently I have invited:
Dave and Andy as Admins
Dennis as Author
Also I have now added some more:
khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka
All as Authors.
(Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role
will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.)
and to continue ...
Anyone else wants an account please let me know.
(And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your
Apache
Address.)
Thanks
Gav...
Blog Created
Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
Re: Blog Created
Is there an editor role? I may not do much original blogging here, but I could help with editing posts. I'd also recommend that we adopt some goals for the blog (community outreach, etc.) and set up an editorial calendar of planned future posts. -Rob On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
RE: Blog Created
-Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
Re: Blog Created
Gavin, Thanks! There is a page that describes how to prepare and preview a blog post. [1] Authors should read this and begin to put together our announcement. The page states A typical process is to create the blog post, set it up to publish in 3-4 days via the Advanced Settings, then post the modified preview URL to your dev@ list with the anticipated publish date for lazy consensus. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/blogs.html Regards, Dave On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
Re: Blog Created
Hi A question about language. Is the ASF blog English only? I ask this, because we have large userbases in many country and they may like to follow the progress in there language. Maybe we can add same language categories too. Greetings raphael Am 10.07.11 00:38, schrieb Dave Fisher: Gavin, Thanks! There is a page that describes how to prepare and preview a blog post. [1] Authors should read this and begin to put together our announcement. The page states A typical process is to create the blog post, set it up to publish in 3-4 days via the Advanced Settings, then post the modified preview URL to your dev@ list with the anticipated publish date for lazy consensus. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/blogs.html Regards, Dave On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav... -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
RE: Blog Created
-Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 9:00 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: RE: Blog Created And I can confirm that it is working, the full-post Atom feed is working, and I can author from Windows Live Writer 2011. (For that last, praise be!) Yeah that is good, but not yet perfect. https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/ooo_there_rsquo_s_a It looks like the CSS needs some tweaking: the right side bar drops down depending on text width in the post content, the well-known CSS-blog-post bugaboo. I have to make by browser window pretty wide before the sidebar reappears adjacent to the content. I didn't enter anything that couldn't have line-wrapped sooner, so this is apparently somewhere in the styling. likely, I'll see what I can do. There are some differences between the Roller 5.0.0 documentation and how this blog is set up that would have been handy to know. I wouldn't trust the documentation as far as I can throw it ;) That said, what sort of differences are you thinking about? When I saw that there were no options to switch between wysiwyg and raw HTML modes, I was pretty certain that I was looking at a browser edit window that expected raw HTML. It must be in the Apache chromosomes. Or RTE was turned off in the Admin area, now enabled. That is what drove me to see if I could get Windows Live Writer to hook up. It managed to fish the styles from the site, but it was not able to connect with categories or tags. There might be ways to get that working, but I am content for now. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ROL-1708 is possibly related. Try creating them manually in Writer to match. The Facebook button works (need Google+ now too, I suppose). I didn't try the twitter button because that happens with a Live Writer plug-in I use. Another good plugin. The aggregation into the https://blogs.apache.org page is working too. Xlnt (and expected!) Next Exercise: See if the track-backs as comments work from elsewhere. Track backs are configurable. Gav... - Dennis Ah: Small victories are such wonderful things. If I'm doing it wrong, just don't tell me, K? -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 15:14 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Blog Created -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
RE: Blog Created
Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache-oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. Ah well, - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 15:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Gavin, Thanks! There is a page that describes how to prepare and preview a blog post. [1] Authors should read this and begin to put together our announcement. The page states A typical process is to create the blog post, set it up to publish in 3-4 days via the Advanced Settings, then post the modified preview URL to your dev@ list with the anticipated publish date for lazy consensus. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/blogs.html Regards, Dave On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
Re: Blog Created
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache-oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. Ah well, - Dennis I would not say official but at least semi-official in that it would show, in a faster way, what we are doing and how things are going with the project. I think what you did was a good indication of the way it should go. That is my personal opinion and I my be off base here. Andy
RE: Blog Created
-Original Message- From: Andy Brown [mailto:a...@the-martin-byrd.net] Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 12:18 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache- oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. Ah well, - Dennis I would not say official but at least semi-official in that it would show, in a faster way, what we are doing and how things are going with the project. I think what you did was a good indication of the way it should go. That is my personal opinion and I my be off base here. +1 All blogs at blogs.apache.org are official in that they talk about the project, they don't wander off talking about some developers own thing etc etc... They can talk about releases as extra exposure - folks often subscribe to RSS feeds etc rather than keep looking to a website for an update. They can talk about what's happening currently, they can announce a new committer, a new up and coming feature or long awaited fix,etc etc.. What Dennis blogged IMO was spot on and a great start to the Apache OpenOffice[.org] blog. What Dave mentioned is also something some but not all projects do, and not all the time - that is to draft a blog announcement for something, then post a 'preview url' to the (this) dev list for opinions on changes/tweaks/etc before it goes live. That is ideally a tool on improving, extending and typechecking the blog post rather than opinions to veto it . HTH Gav... Andy
RE: Blog Created
Writer 2011 creates categories from what the blog tells it. It may be that if I use tags those will actually show up as categories. There is a way to make a custom XML file that goes at the root of the blog that instructs Writer about what works and doesn't work with the particular blog. This will improve the blog-specific customization. I have used those with Movable Type with reasonable success. Not sure what else would work with the Roller XMLRPC. I intentionally did not use tags because I didn't know who they might be pinged to or how to tell Writer about it. I'm currently set up so Writer posts to de.licio.us in some odd way. Hmm, I think I am in over my head. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 16:37 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Blog Created -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 9:00 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: RE: Blog Created And I can confirm that it is working, the full-post Atom feed is working, and I can author from Windows Live Writer 2011. (For that last, praise be!) Yeah that is good, but not yet perfect. https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/ooo_there_rsquo_s_a It looks like the CSS needs some tweaking: the right side bar drops down depending on text width in the post content, the well-known CSS-blog-post bugaboo. I have to make by browser window pretty wide before the sidebar reappears adjacent to the content. I didn't enter anything that couldn't have line-wrapped sooner, so this is apparently somewhere in the styling. likely, I'll see what I can do. There are some differences between the Roller 5.0.0 documentation and how this blog is set up that would have been handy to know. I wouldn't trust the documentation as far as I can throw it ;) That said, what sort of differences are you thinking about? When I saw that there were no options to switch between wysiwyg and raw HTML modes, I was pretty certain that I was looking at a browser edit window that expected raw HTML. It must be in the Apache chromosomes. Or RTE was turned off in the Admin area, now enabled. That is what drove me to see if I could get Windows Live Writer to hook up. It managed to fish the styles from the site, but it was not able to connect with categories or tags. There might be ways to get that working, but I am content for now. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ROL-1708 is possibly related. Try creating them manually in Writer to match. The Facebook button works (need Google+ now too, I suppose). I didn't try the twitter button because that happens with a Live Writer plug-in I use. Another good plugin. The aggregation into the https://blogs.apache.org page is working too. Xlnt (and expected!) Next Exercise: See if the track-backs as comments work from elsewhere. Track backs are configurable. Gav... - Dennis Ah: Small victories are such wonderful things. If I'm doing it wrong, just don't tell me, K? -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 15:14 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Blog Created -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 8:07 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Blog Created Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Also I have now added some more: khirano, rbircher, robweir, clippka All as Authors. (Note to Rob, no specific 'Editor' role but the Author role will allow you to edit and tweak other posts.) and to continue ... Anyone else wants an account please let me know. (And let me know your Apache ID too as I'll send the invite to your Apache Address.) Thanks Gav...
RE: Blog Created
Ah well. I've seen those kinds of blogs, that are essentially announcements. So it is a notices mechanism with a syndication feed. I will have to go look at one of the ones that seems to get lots of hits according to the headline/summary aggregator. Wonder if they get much by way of comments apart from spam. I'm from the Naked Conversations school of blogging, so I may have to take my crayons to some other place where I can ponder the fright, frustration, and outright fun on an Apache project, the OpenOffice.org podling in particular. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 19:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Blog Created -Original Message- From: Andy Brown [mailto:a...@the-martin-byrd.net] Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 12:18 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache- oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. Ah well, - Dennis I would not say official but at least semi-official in that it would show, in a faster way, what we are doing and how things are going with the project. I think what you did was a good indication of the way it should go. That is my personal opinion and I my be off base here. +1 All blogs at blogs.apache.org are official in that they talk about the project, they don't wander off talking about some developers own thing etc etc... They can talk about releases as extra exposure - folks often subscribe to RSS feeds etc rather than keep looking to a website for an update. They can talk about what's happening currently, they can announce a new committer, a new up and coming feature or long awaited fix,etc etc.. What Dennis blogged IMO was spot on and a great start to the Apache OpenOffice[.org] blog. What Dave mentioned is also something some but not all projects do, and not all the time - that is to draft a blog announcement for something, then post a 'preview url' to the (this) dev list for opinions on changes/tweaks/etc before it goes live. That is ideally a tool on improving, extending and typechecking the blog post rather than opinions to veto it . HTH Gav... Andy
RE: Blog Created - Statistics
I looked at the Apache blogs with most hits for the past day (being Saturday I think although it is Sunday on Blog time). Only 6 of them had more than 10 vists or whatever the counter cunts. 1. Foundation (at 423) is essentially press releases on foundation matters. 4. infra (at 33) is notice oriented. There is about one per month. These are often useful things that Committers and others need to know about changes that are happening. 5. conferences (23) is press-office sort of stuff about Apache-related events 6. click (15) has lately been about releases and their content. 3. openejb (36) has a mix of events, releases, and tips, including links to material elsewhere. 2. ooo (75) that's us and *before* there was anything at the blog address too. I see the stats just rolled up to 86 so I have no idea whether this is a sliding-window count or what. There seems to be some pent-up interest or else the stats are just wacky. I don't know what to make of this. Interesting though. The numbers are going up across the board for the top 5. Europe is awake? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 20:09 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: RE: Blog Created Ah well. I've seen those kinds of blogs, that are essentially announcements. So it is a notices mechanism with a syndication feed. I will have to go look at one of the ones that seems to get lots of hits according to the headline/summary aggregator. Wonder if they get much by way of comments apart from spam. I'm from the Naked Conversations school of blogging, so I may have to take my crayons to some other place where I can ponder the fright, frustration, and outright fun on an Apache project, the OpenOffice.org podling in particular. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 19:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Blog Created -Original Message- From: Andy Brown [mailto:a...@the-martin-byrd.net] Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 12:18 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache- oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't seem like that much fun. Ah well, - Dennis I would not say official but at least semi-official in that it would show, in a faster way, what we are doing and how things are going with the project. I think what you did was a good indication of the way it should go. That is my personal opinion and I my be off base here. +1 All blogs at blogs.apache.org are official in that they talk about the project, they don't wander off talking about some developers own thing etc etc... They can talk about releases as extra exposure - folks often subscribe to RSS feeds etc rather than keep looking to a website for an update. They can talk about what's happening currently, they can announce a new committer, a new up and coming feature or long awaited fix,etc etc.. What Dennis blogged IMO was spot on and a great start to the Apache OpenOffice[.org] blog. What Dave mentioned is also something some but not all projects do, and not all the time - that is to draft a blog announcement for something, then post a 'preview url' to the (this) dev list for opinions on changes/tweaks/etc before it goes live. That is ideally a tool on improving, extending and typechecking the blog post rather than opinions to veto it . HTH Gav... Andy
