Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On 10/25/2012 04:58 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/2012 12:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/get-it-here.htmlhttp://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob oh boy...while looking around just now, it seems we DO have an svg file of Get it here! *without* incubator on it -- http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/svg/get-aoo_**300x100.svghttp://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/get-aoo_300x100.svg if this is any use ... Ok, we still need to do cleanup on this one. Do we want to replace-- http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png with a link to a 300x100 rendering (without the beveled edges, so older I suspect), at: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/get-aoo-300x100.png OK. That's why I did for now. It is same size and everything. -Rob thanks...since you were the primary contact on this, I hesitated to do this if there were objections. I am not sufficiently talented to add bevels to this image, but I hope someone is. we have .svg for this if someone wants to re-bevel. -- --**--** MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/2012 12:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/get-it-here.htmlhttp://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob oh boy...while looking around just now, it seems we DO have an svg file of Get it here! *without* incubator on it -- http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/svg/get-aoo_**300x100.svghttp://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/get-aoo_300x100.svg if this is any use ... Ok, we still need to do cleanup on this one. Do we want to replace-- http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png with a link to a 300x100 rendering (without the beveled edges, so older I suspect), at: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/get-aoo-300x100.png we have .svg for this if someone wants to re-bevel. -- --**--** MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/2012 12:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/get-it-here.htmlhttp://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob oh boy...while looking around just now, it seems we DO have an svg file of Get it here! *without* incubator on it -- http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/svg/get-aoo_**300x100.svghttp://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/get-aoo_300x100.svg if this is any use ... Ok, we still need to do cleanup on this one. Do we want to replace-- http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png with a link to a 300x100 rendering (without the beveled edges, so older I suspect), at: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/get-aoo-300x100.png OK. That's why I did for now. It is same size and everything. -Rob we have .svg for this if someone wants to re-bevel. -- --**--** MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Another graphic needs updating, formerly Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On Monday, October 22, 2012, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 21/10/2012 21:18, RGB ES a écrit : CC to Hagar, because he proposed the download logo used on the forums: http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=**238128#p238128http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=238128#p238128 See below for more details [...] Hy, Hagar. There is a discussion on the MLs about a new download button (without the incubator part) and the download logo you built for the forums seems a really good starting point. Do you still have the source file? Hi Ricardo, The one on the forum is the source file. I just used the different logos available in the different areas of the site and assembled them to make the pic. So there is no SVG version, just that one in .png Hagar Hey all, We should be clear in the distinction between a logo and a graphic image that includes branding elements or the actual logo. We need not design new or different logos for different contexts, rather we should apply our branding and logo guidelines to such graphics.
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On 10/20/2012 12:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob oh boy...while looking around just now, it seems we DO have an svg file of Get it here! *without* incubator on it -- http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/get-aoo_300x100.svg if this is any use ... -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
CC to Hagar, because he proposed the download logo used on the forums: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=238128#p238128 See below for more details 2012/10/21 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com On 10/20/2012 03:12 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:09 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator block and regenerate a bitmap for us to put on the website. It was intentional, at least at the time, for the Get it here! graphic to be distinct from the official project logo. This was to avoid diluting the trademark. We wanted the official project logo to be associated with the official website. So if users saw it they knew they were dealing with an official project site. We would then have thematically-related logos that could be used for various affiliate uses, such as on personal websites. That was the purpose of the Get it here! logo. But that was then, this is now. As I understand it now, ASF policy has evolved in this area, and it appears permissible for websites to use logo, provided they follow these rules: http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/faq/#**integrateswithhttp://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#integrateswith But IMHO, the Get it here! button is still useful, since its size and aspect ratio, as well as the beveling, make it ideal for a download button. -Rob jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/get-it-here.htmlhttp://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob What about the one we use on the forums? http://forum.openoffice.org/**es/forum/styles/prosilver/** imageset/AOO-download.pnghttp://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/styles/prosilver/imageset/AOO-download.png It is the same from the web site plus the traditional download arrow on top of the orb. Simple and clear. It certainly could be the basis of a download button. But in its current form it is flat, not really a button. Compare with Drew's Get it here! button, with the beveled edges, etc. Well hopefully the source for Get it here will turn up soonish...it's really very nice. Hy, Hagar. There is a discussion on the MLs about a new download button (without the incubator part) and the download logo you built for the forums seems a really good starting point. Do you still have the source file? Regards Ricardo Regards Ricardo -- --**--** MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
Le 21/10/2012 21:18, RGB ES a écrit : CC to Hagar, because he proposed the download logo used on the forums: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=238128#p238128 See below for more details [...] Hy, Hagar. There is a discussion on the MLs about a new download button (without the incubator part) and the download logo you built for the forums seems a really good starting point. Do you still have the source file? Hi Ricardo, The one on the forum is the source file. I just used the different logos available in the different areas of the site and assembled them to make the pic. So there is no SVG version, just that one in .png Hagar
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator block and regenerate a bitmap for us to put on the website. It was intentional, at least at the time, for the Get it here! graphic to be distinct from the official project logo. This was to avoid diluting the trademark. We wanted the official project logo to be associated with the official website. So if users saw it they knew they were dealing with an official project site. We would then have thematically-related logos that could be used for various affiliate uses, such as on personal websites. That was the purpose of the Get it here! logo. But that was then, this is now. As I understand it now, ASF policy has evolved in this area, and it appears permissible for websites to use logo, provided they follow these rules: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#integrateswith But IMHO, the Get it here! button is still useful, since its size and aspect ratio, as well as the beveling, make it ideal for a download button. -Rob jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
Since it seems allowed, it would be nicer to have the same logo. I understand that we have to consider the legal aspect, but seen purely from a users point of view, one logo means one product. jan. On 20 October 2012 21:56, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator block and regenerate a bitmap for us to put on the website. It was intentional, at least at the time, for the Get it here! graphic to be distinct from the official project logo. This was to avoid diluting the trademark. We wanted the official project logo to be associated with the official website. So if users saw it they knew they were dealing with an official project site. We would then have thematically-related logos that could be used for various affiliate uses, such as on personal websites. That was the purpose of the Get it here! logo. But that was then, this is now. As I understand it now, ASF policy has evolved in this area, and it appears permissible for websites to use logo, provided they follow these rules: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#integrateswith But IMHO, the Get it here! button is still useful, since its size and aspect ratio, as well as the beveling, make it ideal for a download button. -Rob jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
2012/10/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator block and regenerate a bitmap for us to put on the website. It was intentional, at least at the time, for the Get it here! graphic to be distinct from the official project logo. This was to avoid diluting the trademark. We wanted the official project logo to be associated with the official website. So if users saw it they knew they were dealing with an official project site. We would then have thematically-related logos that could be used for various affiliate uses, such as on personal websites. That was the purpose of the Get it here! logo. But that was then, this is now. As I understand it now, ASF policy has evolved in this area, and it appears permissible for websites to use logo, provided they follow these rules: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#integrateswith But IMHO, the Get it here! button is still useful, since its size and aspect ratio, as well as the beveling, make it ideal for a download button. -Rob jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob What about the one we use on the forums? http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/styles/prosilver/imageset/AOO-download.png It is the same from the web site plus the traditional download arrow on top of the orb. Simple and clear. Regards Ricardo
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
+1 On 20 October 2012 23:09, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator block and regenerate a bitmap for us to put on the website. It was intentional, at least at the time, for the Get it here! graphic to be distinct from the official project logo. This was to avoid diluting the trademark. We wanted the official project logo to be associated with the official website. So if users saw it they knew they were dealing with an official project site. We would then have thematically-related logos that could be used for various affiliate uses, such as on personal websites. That was the purpose of the Get it here! logo. But that was then, this is now. As I understand it now, ASF policy has evolved in this area, and it appears permissible for websites to use logo, provided they follow these rules: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#integrateswith But IMHO, the Get it here! button is still useful, since its size and aspect ratio, as well as the beveling, make it ideal for a download button. -Rob jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob What about the one we use on the forums? http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/styles/prosilver/imageset/AOO-download.png It is the same from the web site plus the traditional download arrow on top of the orb. Simple and clear. Regards Ricardo
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator block and regenerate a bitmap for us to put on the website. Should wait for drew to answer this. I bet he has the source of everything. Weekends are not always the best time to count on quick replies. It was intentional, at least at the time, for the Get it here! graphic to be distinct from the official project logo. This was to avoid diluting the trademark. We wanted the official project logo to be associated with the official website. So if users saw it they knew they were dealing with an official project site. We would then have thematically-related logos that could be used for various affiliate uses, such as on personal websites. That was the purpose of the Get it here! logo. Was tehre any documentation about this? For example the Visual Design page on marketing did show the diferent themed logos Xmass, OOoCon, Download, etc. Maybe on cwiki? But that was then, this is now. As I understand it now, ASF policy has evolved in this area, and it appears permissible for websites to use logo, provided they follow these rules: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#integrateswith But IMHO, the Get it here! button is still useful, since its size and aspect ratio, as well as the beveling, make it ideal for a download button. -Rob jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:09 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator block and regenerate a bitmap for us to put on the website. It was intentional, at least at the time, for the Get it here! graphic to be distinct from the official project logo. This was to avoid diluting the trademark. We wanted the official project logo to be associated with the official website. So if users saw it they knew they were dealing with an official project site. We would then have thematically-related logos that could be used for various affiliate uses, such as on personal websites. That was the purpose of the Get it here! logo. But that was then, this is now. As I understand it now, ASF policy has evolved in this area, and it appears permissible for websites to use logo, provided they follow these rules: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#integrateswith But IMHO, the Get it here! button is still useful, since its size and aspect ratio, as well as the beveling, make it ideal for a download button. -Rob jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob What about the one we use on the forums? http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/styles/prosilver/imageset/AOO-download.png It is the same from the web site plus the traditional download arrow on top of the orb. Simple and clear. It certainly could be the basis of a download button. But in its current form it is flat, not really a button. Compare with Drew's Get it here! button, with the beveled edges, etc. Regards Ricardo
Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!
On 10/20/2012 03:12 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:09 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator block and regenerate a bitmap for us to put on the website. It was intentional, at least at the time, for the Get it here! graphic to be distinct from the official project logo. This was to avoid diluting the trademark. We wanted the official project logo to be associated with the official website. So if users saw it they knew they were dealing with an official project site. We would then have thematically-related logos that could be used for various affiliate uses, such as on personal websites. That was the purpose of the Get it here! logo. But that was then, this is now. As I understand it now, ASF policy has evolved in this area, and it appears permissible for websites to use logo, provided they follow these rules: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#integrateswith But IMHO, the Get it here! button is still useful, since its size and aspect ratio, as well as the beveling, make it ideal for a download button. -Rob jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made the most recent version of this. Anyone have the source, or can easily respin it without the incubator block? Thanks! -Rob What about the one we use on the forums? http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/styles/prosilver/imageset/AOO-download.png It is the same from the web site plus the traditional download arrow on top of the orb. Simple and clear. It certainly could be the basis of a download button. But in its current form it is flat, not really a button. Compare with Drew's Get it here! button, with the beveled edges, etc. Well hopefully the source for Get it here will turn up soonish...it's really very nice. Regards Ricardo -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
