Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Web Site Download Page
I agree that the oorexx.org/download.html page has gotten a little long, but it would be quite manageable if it reflected only the latest version of ooRexx. I'd put the older versions on a separate page and link to that from the main download page. I don't think I'm alone in finding Sourceforge to be obstreperously obtuse. You need a burrowing link to it to find anything. (See how many tries it takes a neophyte to find the ooRexx page if you make him start at http://sourceforge.net). Once there, I think the "Looking for the latest version?" prompt probably does more harm than good, given the number of platforms ooRexx supports these days. I'm quite sure "...windows.x86_32.exe" isn't going to cut it for most visitors, especially the naïve ones who are most likely to use the "latest version" link. If there is no way to make "latest version" point to the '4.2.0' parent folder, then replace it with the string "It depends..." or eliminate it altogether. Won't most folks assume that the parent directory with the highest numerical value is the latest version? Sourceforge is heavily mirrored, so I don't think replacing the individual download files on ooRexx with a Sourceforge link is an exposure, and it certainly cuts down on the synchronization issues. OTOH, having a single link per version is not significantly better than a single link to the ooRexx Project, imho. I think the highest and best use of the ooRexx download page is to better organize and explain the confusing (to neophytes) package naming conventions: "I'm running Ubuntu. Which of the eight files do I want?" or especially "I'm running Windows7 in 32-bit mode on 64-bit hardware...?" The Sourceforge page gives no way to answer such common questions. I'd like to see a more hierarchical table, with elaborations of the various distinctions between the downloadable files, culminating in a single link to the Sourceforge package. Something like: Ubuntu 13.30 32-bit Intel http://sourceforge.net/ooRexx__.i386.deb 64-bit Intel http://sourceforge.net/ooRexx__.x86_64.deb Ubuntu 12.04 Long Term Support 32-bit Intel http://sourceforge.net/ooRexx__.i386.deb 64-bit Intel http://sourceforge.net/ooRexx__.x86_64.deb SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11.10 32-bit Intel http://sourceforge.net/ooRexx__.i586.rpm 64-bit Intel http://sourceforge.net/ooRexx__.x86_64.rpm s390 IBM http://sourceforge.net/ooRexx__.s390.rpm this would provide a welcome "value add" to the ooRexx site, I think. -Chip- On 3/11/2014 11:37 AM David Ashley said: > All - > > The download page on the main ooRexx web site is getting a little too > crowded with the old releases. I was about to update it with the new > 4.2.0 release when I changed my mind and decided it was time to do > something else with this page. > > First, I have some observations. > > 1. Listing the individual files for download is error prone at best. A > simple typo can make the link useless. > 2. Listing details for the old releases is not very useful. Usually > people want the latest version. > > So I suggest we only list each version as a link to the SourceForge > repository (there would be a different link for each version). That way > the SF repository becomes the only real place from which to download > files and we do not have to maintain two places that list the files for > download. > > Opinions/suggestions? > > David Ashley > > > -- > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Web Site Download Page
> 1. Listing the individual files for download is error prone >at best. A simple typo can make the link useless. Any page like that is best automated .. part of release/publish process. Shouldn't be any need for manual update. > 2. Listing details for the old releases is not very useful. >Usually people want the latest version. Agree! Mike -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Web Site Download Page
I've seen some sites where just the current release is listed, an at the bottom is a link to an "older releases" page. People usually want the current release, unless they have a very specific reason to get something else. Bruce On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:37 AM, David Ashley wrote: > All - > > The download page on the main ooRexx web site is getting a little too > crowded with the old releases. I was about to update it with the new > 4.2.0 release when I changed my mind and decided it was time to do > something else with this page. > > First, I have some observations. > > 1. Listing the individual files for download is error prone at best. A > simple typo can make the link useless. > 2. Listing details for the old releases is not very useful. Usually > people want the latest version. > > So I suggest we only list each version as a link to the SourceForge > repository (there would be a different link for each version). That way > the SF repository becomes the only real place from which to download > files and we do not have to maintain two places that list the files for > download. > > Opinions/suggestions? > > David Ashley > > > -- > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Web Site Download Page
Hi David, My view, which is not in favor with others, is that we should just point people to the files page on SourceForge. So whatever you want to do is fine with me. I don't see much point in listing all the previous versions. I would suggest just giving this URL: https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/ and an explanatory paragraph saying: To get previous versions of ooRexx go there. And maybe some brief explanation saying, for example to get ooRexx 4.1.1 go the directory named 4.1.1. Although the whole process seems self-evident to me. And maybe another paragraph saying to see all packages released by the ooRexx project go to: https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/ and browse the folders -- Mark Miesfeld On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:37 AM, David Ashley wrote: > All - > > The download page on the main ooRexx web site is getting a little too > crowded with the old releases. I was about to update it with the new > 4.2.0 release when I changed my mind and decided it was time to do > something else with this page. > > First, I have some observations. > > 1. Listing the individual files for download is error prone at best. A > simple typo can make the link useless. > 2. Listing details for the old releases is not very useful. Usually > people want the latest version. > > So I suggest we only list each version as a link to the SourceForge > repository (there would be a different link for each version). That way > the SF repository becomes the only real place from which to download > files and we do not have to maintain two places that list the files for > download. > > Opinions/suggestions? > > David Ashley > > > > -- > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Web Site Download Page
Greetings David, David Ashley wrote: > So I suggest we only list each version as a link to the SourceForge > repository Seems reasonable to me. Yes, there are significant custom flavors of ooRexx... if the SF site is down, one is unable to download anything at the specific time. One link per major release should be sufficient. Thank you. Blessings, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
[Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Web Site Download Page
All - The download page on the main ooRexx web site is getting a little too crowded with the old releases. I was about to update it with the new 4.2.0 release when I changed my mind and decided it was time to do something else with this page. First, I have some observations. 1. Listing the individual files for download is error prone at best. A simple typo can make the link useless. 2. Listing details for the old releases is not very useful. Usually people want the latest version. So I suggest we only list each version as a link to the SourceForge repository (there would be a different link for each version). That way the SF repository becomes the only real place from which to download files and we do not have to maintain two places that list the files for download. Opinions/suggestions? David Ashley -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Web Site
Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers wrote: > looks good to me. This page appears not up-to-date: http://www.oorexx.org/download.html Meanwhile the SF site main page still defaults to suggesting this file for download: Download ooRexx-4.1.0-fedora13.i686.rpm Blessings, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Web Site
Thanks David, looks good to me. Jon On 10 March 2014 12:56, David Ashley wrote: > I have updated the ooRexx Web Site from the SVN repository. > > David Ashley > > > > -- > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
