Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:50 AM, David Ashley wrote: > The bottom line is that any library or application that is 32 bit only > would not be usable in a 64 bit operating system. ^--- Windows Right now I have 135 processes running of which 24 are 32bit X86 and the rest are 64bit. Can't speak for windows. -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
Jon, You don't need to be overly concerned with this, in my opinion. The ooRexx code base builds on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows and will continue to build that way as long as your current machines are still running. -- Mark Miesfeld On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers < sahana...@windhorse.biz> wrote: > Just speaking for myself here: > > I have upwards of 70 machines I am responsible for running ooRexx on 32Bit > processors (Celeron 430, Pentium 4, Northwood, Celeron M320, Barias, > Coppermine etc..). > They are all running Windows OSs (Mainly the now defunct XP). > Nearly half of them are tills, so expensive to replace and built like > tanks to last forever. > > I think from what David said, the question is only about ending 32Bit > support on some or all linux distros, or is the suggestion to end all > support for 32bit ooRexx? > > thanks, > > Jon > > > > On 9 June 2014 18:50, David Ashley wrote: > >> The bottom line is that any library or application that is 32 bit only >> would not be usable in a 64 bit operating system. Perhaps the most >> obvious library is the IBM DB2 Rexx libraries. These are 32 bit only (no >> 64 bit libraries exist) and would not work on a 64 bit OS, no matter >> what version of ooRexx you would use with it. A replacement library >> would need to be found. >> >> Maybe this is also a good point to address Windows. At this point >> Microsoft has not announced anything about dropping support for 32 bit >> libraries/apps. So I think that we can safely assume Microsoft will >> continue to support 32 bit apps and libraries since the number of 32 bit >> only apps is still very large. Indeed, IMHO Microsoft may never be able >> to give up 32 bit support entirely. They are between their OS rock and >> their user apps hard place. >> >> David Ashley >> >> On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 18:19 +0100, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers wrote: >> > Hi David >> > >> > >> > Could you just lay out for us what that would mean in terms of users >> > still on 32bit machines and also those reliant on extensions like rexx >> > \sql, rexxCurl etc. >> > >> > >> > thanks, >> > >> > >> > Jon >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions >> Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems >> Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. >> Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems >> ___ >> Oorexx-devel mailing list >> Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel >> > > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration > http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > > -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
No, David is definitely not suggesting adding all 32-bit support. Rick On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers < sahana...@windhorse.biz> wrote: > Just speaking for myself here: > > I have upwards of 70 machines I am responsible for running ooRexx on 32Bit > processors (Celeron 430, Pentium 4, Northwood, Celeron M320, Barias, > Coppermine etc..). > They are all running Windows OSs (Mainly the now defunct XP). > Nearly half of them are tills, so expensive to replace and built like > tanks to last forever. > > I think from what David said, the question is only about ending 32Bit > support on some or all linux distros, or is the suggestion to end all > support for 32bit ooRexx? > > thanks, > > Jon > > > > On 9 June 2014 18:50, David Ashley wrote: > >> The bottom line is that any library or application that is 32 bit only >> would not be usable in a 64 bit operating system. Perhaps the most >> obvious library is the IBM DB2 Rexx libraries. These are 32 bit only (no >> 64 bit libraries exist) and would not work on a 64 bit OS, no matter >> what version of ooRexx you would use with it. A replacement library >> would need to be found. >> >> Maybe this is also a good point to address Windows. At this point >> Microsoft has not announced anything about dropping support for 32 bit >> libraries/apps. So I think that we can safely assume Microsoft will >> continue to support 32 bit apps and libraries since the number of 32 bit >> only apps is still very large. Indeed, IMHO Microsoft may never be able >> to give up 32 bit support entirely. They are between their OS rock and >> their user apps hard place. >> >> David Ashley >> >> On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 18:19 +0100, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers wrote: >> > Hi David >> > >> > >> > Could you just lay out for us what that would mean in terms of users >> > still on 32bit machines and also those reliant on extensions like rexx >> > \sql, rexxCurl etc. >> > >> > >> > thanks, >> > >> > >> > Jon >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions >> Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems >> Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. >> Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems >> ___ >> Oorexx-devel mailing list >> Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel >> > > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration > http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > > -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
> Maybe this is also a good point to address Windows. At this > point Microsoft has not announced anything about dropping > support for 32 bit libraries/apps. So I think that we can > safely assume Microsoft will continue to support 32 bit apps > and libraries since the number of 32 bit only apps is still > very large. Indeed, IMHO Microsoft may never be able to give > up 32 bit support entirely. They are between their OS rock > and their user apps hard place. Actually a rather comfortable place. As a 'user' I don't have any app that needs 64-bit. I use FSX .. but that doesn't need 64-bit, just a good graphics card. Not many tablets or 'phones are 64-bit, either, despite their Linux kernels. I suspect 64-bit is really for servers, these days, which is where *ix excels. Mike -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
Just speaking for myself here: I have upwards of 70 machines I am responsible for running ooRexx on 32Bit processors (Celeron 430, Pentium 4, Northwood, Celeron M320, Barias, Coppermine etc..). They are all running Windows OSs (Mainly the now defunct XP). Nearly half of them are tills, so expensive to replace and built like tanks to last forever. I think from what David said, the question is only about ending 32Bit support on some or all linux distros, or is the suggestion to end all support for 32bit ooRexx? thanks, Jon On 9 June 2014 18:50, David Ashley wrote: > The bottom line is that any library or application that is 32 bit only > would not be usable in a 64 bit operating system. Perhaps the most > obvious library is the IBM DB2 Rexx libraries. These are 32 bit only (no > 64 bit libraries exist) and would not work on a 64 bit OS, no matter > what version of ooRexx you would use with it. A replacement library > would need to be found. > > Maybe this is also a good point to address Windows. At this point > Microsoft has not announced anything about dropping support for 32 bit > libraries/apps. So I think that we can safely assume Microsoft will > continue to support 32 bit apps and libraries since the number of 32 bit > only apps is still very large. Indeed, IMHO Microsoft may never be able > to give up 32 bit support entirely. They are between their OS rock and > their user apps hard place. > > David Ashley > > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 18:19 +0100, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers wrote: > > Hi David > > > > > > Could you just lay out for us what that would mean in terms of users > > still on 32bit machines and also those reliant on extensions like rexx > > \sql, rexxCurl etc. > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration > http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
The bottom line is that any library or application that is 32 bit only would not be usable in a 64 bit operating system. Perhaps the most obvious library is the IBM DB2 Rexx libraries. These are 32 bit only (no 64 bit libraries exist) and would not work on a 64 bit OS, no matter what version of ooRexx you would use with it. A replacement library would need to be found. Maybe this is also a good point to address Windows. At this point Microsoft has not announced anything about dropping support for 32 bit libraries/apps. So I think that we can safely assume Microsoft will continue to support 32 bit apps and libraries since the number of 32 bit only apps is still very large. Indeed, IMHO Microsoft may never be able to give up 32 bit support entirely. They are between their OS rock and their user apps hard place. David Ashley On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 18:19 +0100, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers wrote: > Hi David > > > Could you just lay out for us what that would mean in terms of users > still on 32bit machines and also those reliant on extensions like rexx > \sql, rexxCurl etc. > > > thanks, > > > Jon -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
David Ashley wrote: > It looks like the new Red Hat EL 7.0 will only be available in x86_64 > format (no i384/486/586/686 version). I seem to recall reading something about an end of x86 coming to Ubuntu as well. What ever point the distro vendors stop x86 support, obviously ooRexx will not be built in an x86 version for those new distro versions. Like with supporting Windows 2000 builds of ooRexx, at some point backward compatibility will become impossible. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS has five years of support, and has an x86 version. So while that means x86 code is supported there out to 2019, I would foresee less and less demand for the x86 version as the years go by. I am thankful, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
Well, if you are still on a 32-bit machine, you won't be able to upgrade to those 64-bit versions, although I think you'll find that every Intel or AMD machine produced in the last 10 years can actually handle a 64-bit install. If is only when you install a 64-bit OS and are also forced to install a 64-bit ooRexx that you'll see a problem. You will need to install 64-bit versions of those extension libraries as well. The good news is most of those are produced by Mark Hessling, who is probably also facing the same thing with Regina. Rick On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers < sahana...@windhorse.biz> wrote: > Hi David > > Could you just lay out for us what that would mean in terms of users still > on 32bit machines and also those reliant on extensions like rexx\sql, > rexxCurl etc. > > thanks, > > Jon > > > > > On 9 June 2014 17:20, David Ashley wrote: > >> The short answer is no. The longer answer is that if you also load the >> 32 bit base libraries then the answer is yes. But the question is >> whether or not those libraries will be available. I think the answer is >> probably no on that one, but I could be wrong. The basic ide here is to >> move to 64 bit and break support for 32 bit. >> >> David Ashley >> >> On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 11:51 -0400, Rick McGuire wrote: >> > Does the 64-bit format still support running 32-bit executables? >> > >> > >> > Rick >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM, David Ashley >> > wrote: >> > This is just something I am throwing out there with some >> > information >> > added so everyone can think about it. >> > >> > It looks like the new Red Hat EL 7.0 will only be available in >> > x86_64 >> > format (no i384/486/586/686 version). And I am hearing that >> > Fedora may >> > follow that strategy with the Fedora21 release coming late >> > this year. I >> > can only guess that other distributions will consider also >> > following >> > along on this. >> > >> > So I think we need to ask ourselves if there are products that >> > are >> > strategic for us that are not 64 bit friendly. If there are, >> > then we >> > need a strategy for dealing with this problem going forward. >> > And if >> > ooRexx also has 32 bit only libraries/programs, we also need >> > to address >> > that. >> > >> > At this point I am not putting forward the proposition that we >> > should >> > stop 32 bit development/support, but we should keep in mind >> > the >> > direction the OS distributions are going before doing serious >> > development work that may or may not stand the test of time. >> > >> > David Ashley >> > >> > >> > >> -- >> > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis >> > Risk Solutions >> > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems >> > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. >> > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data >> > Exploration >> > http://www.hpccsystems.com >> > ___ >> > Oorexx-devel mailing list >> > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel >> > >> > >> > >> -- >> > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk >> Solutions >> > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems >> > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. >> > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration >> > http://www.hpccsystems.com >> > ___ >> > Oorexx-devel mailing list >> > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions >> Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems >> Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. >> Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration >> http://www.hpccsystems.com >> ___ >> Oorexx-devel mailing list >> Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel >> > > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analys
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
Hi David Could you just lay out for us what that would mean in terms of users still on 32bit machines and also those reliant on extensions like rexx\sql, rexxCurl etc. thanks, Jon On 9 June 2014 17:20, David Ashley wrote: > The short answer is no. The longer answer is that if you also load the > 32 bit base libraries then the answer is yes. But the question is > whether or not those libraries will be available. I think the answer is > probably no on that one, but I could be wrong. The basic ide here is to > move to 64 bit and break support for 32 bit. > > David Ashley > > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 11:51 -0400, Rick McGuire wrote: > > Does the 64-bit format still support running 32-bit executables? > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM, David Ashley > > wrote: > > This is just something I am throwing out there with some > > information > > added so everyone can think about it. > > > > It looks like the new Red Hat EL 7.0 will only be available in > > x86_64 > > format (no i384/486/586/686 version). And I am hearing that > > Fedora may > > follow that strategy with the Fedora21 release coming late > > this year. I > > can only guess that other distributions will consider also > > following > > along on this. > > > > So I think we need to ask ourselves if there are products that > > are > > strategic for us that are not 64 bit friendly. If there are, > > then we > > need a strategy for dealing with this problem going forward. > > And if > > ooRexx also has 32 bit only libraries/programs, we also need > > to address > > that. > > > > At this point I am not putting forward the proposition that we > > should > > stop 32 bit development/support, but we should keep in mind > > the > > direction the OS distributions are going before doing serious > > development work that may or may not stand the test of time. > > > > David Ashley > > > > > > > -- > > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis > > Risk Solutions > > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data > > Exploration > > http://www.hpccsystems.com > > ___ > > Oorexx-devel mailing list > > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > > > > > > > -- > > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration > > http://www.hpccsystems.com > > ___ > > Oorexx-devel mailing list > > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > > > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration > http://www.hpccsystems.com > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
The short answer is no. The longer answer is that if you also load the 32 bit base libraries then the answer is yes. But the question is whether or not those libraries will be available. I think the answer is probably no on that one, but I could be wrong. The basic ide here is to move to 64 bit and break support for 32 bit. David Ashley On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 11:51 -0400, Rick McGuire wrote: > Does the 64-bit format still support running 32-bit executables? > > > Rick > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM, David Ashley > wrote: > This is just something I am throwing out there with some > information > added so everyone can think about it. > > It looks like the new Red Hat EL 7.0 will only be available in > x86_64 > format (no i384/486/586/686 version). And I am hearing that > Fedora may > follow that strategy with the Fedora21 release coming late > this year. I > can only guess that other distributions will consider also > following > along on this. > > So I think we need to ask ourselves if there are products that > are > strategic for us that are not 64 bit friendly. If there are, > then we > need a strategy for dealing with this problem going forward. > And if > ooRexx also has 32 bit only libraries/programs, we also need > to address > that. > > At this point I am not putting forward the proposition that we > should > stop 32 bit development/support, but we should keep in mind > the > direction the OS distributions are going before doing serious > development work that may or may not stand the test of time. > > David Ashley > > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis > Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data > Exploration > http://www.hpccsystems.com > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration > http://www.hpccsystems.com > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://www.hpccsystems.com ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
Does the 64-bit format still support running 32-bit executables? Rick On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM, David Ashley wrote: > This is just something I am throwing out there with some information > added so everyone can think about it. > > It looks like the new Red Hat EL 7.0 will only be available in x86_64 > format (no i384/486/586/686 version). And I am hearing that Fedora may > follow that strategy with the Fedora21 release coming late this year. I > can only guess that other distributions will consider also following > along on this. > > So I think we need to ask ourselves if there are products that are > strategic for us that are not 64 bit friendly. If there are, then we > need a strategy for dealing with this problem going forward. And if > ooRexx also has 32 bit only libraries/programs, we also need to address > that. > > At this point I am not putting forward the proposition that we should > stop 32 bit development/support, but we should keep in mind the > direction the OS distributions are going before doing serious > development work that may or may not stand the test of time. > > David Ashley > > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration > http://www.hpccsystems.com > ___ > Oorexx-devel mailing list > Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel > -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://www.hpccsystems.com___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
[Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions
This is just something I am throwing out there with some information added so everyone can think about it. It looks like the new Red Hat EL 7.0 will only be available in x86_64 format (no i384/486/586/686 version). And I am hearing that Fedora may follow that strategy with the Fedora21 release coming late this year. I can only guess that other distributions will consider also following along on this. So I think we need to ask ourselves if there are products that are strategic for us that are not 64 bit friendly. If there are, then we need a strategy for dealing with this problem going forward. And if ooRexx also has 32 bit only libraries/programs, we also need to address that. At this point I am not putting forward the proposition that we should stop 32 bit development/support, but we should keep in mind the direction the OS distributions are going before doing serious development work that may or may not stand the test of time. David Ashley -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://www.hpccsystems.com ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
