Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] congrats Natural Resources Canada

2010-01-26 Thread Duimovich, George
Thanks Tara!
 
Yes, we are now 100% Evergreen ILS, having migrated from both Unicorn and more 
recently Millennium in the context of our department's library amalgamation (we 
used to be a consortium of 3 library networks serving different sectors, but 
now operate as single business unit).
 
Our contributions to the French language edition (working with Dan Scott) 
should pick up later on for the new content strings (e.g. Acquistions module, 
etc.) as the migration itself was a bit of a handful especially going from 
Millennium. But it feels good not to be working all those late hours!
 
Next on deck: our Drupal launch this Spring, so I'd be interested in hearing 
from anybody working on Drupal + Evergreen integration.
 
More updates from NRCan in one of the upcoming EG newsletters.
 
Thanks to all for making this community rumble!! 
 
George Duimovich
NRCan Library / Bibliothèque de RNCan 
http://catalogue.nrcan.gc.ca/
 
 
 


From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Tara 
Robertson
Sent: January 26, 2010 00:28
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] congrats Natural Resources Canada


I didn't see an announcement on this list, but stumbled across this on the page 
of Evergreen libraries 
(http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries)


Natural Resources Canada Library migrated their locations across Canada in two 
phases. Nine of their 13 libraries migrated to Evergreen as of June 8, 2009, 
and the rest went live on January 15th, 2010.


Awesome! Congratulations! I can only partially imagine how much work it 
would've been to migrate from two different systems, in two official languages, 
across 5? (5.5?) time zones, for a government department that was also 
overhauling their cataloging processes.

tara



Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] congrats Natural Resources Canada

2010-01-26 Thread Tara Robertson
Hi George,

Any rumblings in other federal government department libraries about what
you've done? Are folks supportive, do they still think you're nuts?

Having all the federal departmental libraries on the same ILS would make it
much easier to move things around when the departments are rejigged. Not
only would it be cheaper (and therefore better stewardship of taxpayer
money) it would be much more practical, easier (and cheaper) for library
staff to make the libraries reflect the new department boundaries.

Good luck with the Drupal stuff too!

Tara


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Duimovich, George 
george.duimov...@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca wrote:

  Thanks Tara!

 Yes, we are now 100% Evergreen ILS, having migrated from both Unicorn and
 more recently Millennium in the context of our department's library
 amalgamation (we used to be a consortium of 3 library networks serving
 different sectors, but now operate as single business unit).

 Our contributions to the French language edition (working with Dan Scott)
 should pick up later on for the new content strings (e.g. Acquistions
 module, etc.) as the migration itself was a bit of a handful especially
 going from Millennium. But it feels good not to be working all those late
 hours!

 Next on deck: our Drupal launch this Spring, so I'd be interested in
 hearing from anybody working on Drupal + Evergreen integration.

 More updates from NRCan in one of the upcoming EG newsletters.

 Thanks to all for making this community rumble!!

 George Duimovich
 NRCan Library / Bibliothèque de RNCan
 http://catalogue.nrcan.gc.ca/



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  *From:* open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:
 open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Tara
 Robertson
 *Sent:* January 26, 2010 00:28
 *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
 *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] congrats Natural Resources Canada

 I didn't see an announcement on this list, but stumbled across this on the
 page of Evergreen libraries (
 http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries)

 Natural Resources Canada Library migrated their locations across Canada in
 two phases. Nine of their 13 libraries migrated to Evergreen as of June 8,
 2009, and the rest went live on January 15th, 2010.

 Awesome! Congratulations! I can only partially imagine how much work it
 would've been to migrate from two different systems, in two official
 languages, across 5? (5.5?) time zones, for a government department that was
 also overhauling their cataloging processes.

 tara



Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] congrats Natural Resources Canada

2010-01-26 Thread Duimovich, George
Hello Tara,
 
I can't comment in any detail about other department interest (I'm liable to 
put foot in mouth), but let's just say that there's some interest, and I'm 
willing to bet that at least one other shop comes on board with either a silo 
or shared EG implementation within 2 years or sooner. IMHO, the big challenges 
in the federal system relates to the relative sense of disempowerment that many 
libraries seem to have vis a vis their technology decision-making, as well as 
the relative lack of support offered to those who see business justification 
for using open source.  Add to that the usual faulty pre-suppositions about 
risk and other fear factors PLUS a challenging procurement environment, and 
you have lots of gridlock and/or 'default' commitment to the existing ILS in 
use. [1]
 
We have some unique circumstances here at NRCan that have helped us along more 
than other shops, but I am feeling pretty confident that much is and will be 
changing in how GC.CA uses open source. I think that there's a cultural shift 
in the works, but also think that all of the social and collaborative software 
that has been implemented across departments in the last few years has got to 
have changed some minds (hey, free software works!). The proliferation of 
wiki's  blogs and the like are all on OSS platforms, Drupal is taking off in 
several *big* departments (including DND and here at NRCan) and we have our 
social platform for all Federal government employees ( GCConnex) now running 
running on open source Elgg - http://elgg.org/. [see also 2] 
 
There's even some very interesting - but still nascent -- moves toward 
government-wide computing platform infrastructure and cross department 
collaboration projects being implemented. And open source figures prominently 
in every one that I'm aware of (e.g. GCConnex, GCpedia, IRCan.gc.ca, etc.). But 
still a long way to go IMHO...
 
Cheers,
 
George
 
--
[1] FYI - there are 4 departments with *active* ILS RFPs nearing completion. 
IMHO, open source ILS will not figure into any of those shops selection for 
reasons I won't get into here.
 
[2] eg.  
 
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/fap-paf/oss-ll/position-eng.asp
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/02/canadian-government-eyes-open-sources-asks-for-feedback.ars
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3659/196/
 
 


From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Tara 
Robertson
Sent: January 26, 2010 12:50
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] congrats Natural Resources Canada


Hi George,

Any rumblings in other federal government department libraries about what 
you've done? Are folks supportive, do they still think you're nuts?

Having all the federal departmental libraries on the same ILS would make it 
much easier to move things around when the departments are rejigged. Not only 
would it be cheaper (and therefore better stewardship of taxpayer money) it 
would be much more practical, easier (and cheaper) for library staff to make 
the libraries reflect the new department boundaries.

Good luck with the Drupal stuff too!

Tara



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Duimovich, George 
george.duimov...@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca wrote:


Thanks Tara!
 
Yes, we are now 100% Evergreen ILS, having migrated from both Unicorn 
and more recently Millennium in the context of our department's library 
amalgamation (we used to be a consortium of 3 library networks serving 
different sectors, but now operate as single business unit).
 
Our contributions to the French language edition (working with Dan 
Scott) should pick up later on for the new content strings (e.g. Acquistions 
module, etc.) as the migration itself was a bit of a handful especially going 
from Millennium. But it feels good not to be working all those late hours!
 
Next on deck: our Drupal launch this Spring, so I'd be interested in 
hearing from anybody working on Drupal + Evergreen integration.
 
More updates from NRCan in one of the upcoming EG newsletters.
 
Thanks to all for making this community rumble!! 
 
George Duimovich
NRCan Library / Bibliothèque de RNCan 
http://catalogue.nrcan.gc.ca/
 
 
 


From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Tara 
Robertson
Sent: January 26, 2010 00:28
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] congrats Natural Resources Canada


I didn't see an announcement on this list, but stumbled across this on 
the page of Evergreen libraries 
(http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries)


Natural 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Spine Label Printers?

2010-01-26 Thread OdonLibrarian
 
 
I have templates for OpenOffice.org Calc for printing both  material 
barcodes and spine labels on an ordinary printer.  Because we  migrated from 
Winnebago and had leftover spine label stock (6X5 on 8 1/2X11  sheets), that's 
the format I chose for now.  Another library in Indiana has  an Excel template 
for a 5X6 layout (but without the links I use to avoid  retyping data 
already in Evergreen).  
 
The procedure is fairly simple:  Dump the items needing labels into a  copy 
bucket, pick them up on the clipboard as CSV, and paste into the first page 
 of the spreadsheet.  The second page of the spreadsheet links to the data  
on the first sheet and formats it.  I generally try to do enough at a time  
to avoid running a sheet of 30 labels through the laser printer more than  
twice but that's a fairly simple workflow issue.
 
Having developed a preference for OpenOffice.org Calc, I haven't tried  the 
templates with Excel but compatibility is generally excellent.   I'll be 
glad to share my template with anyone who is interested.  It would  take some 
time and effort to reformat for a different spine label  layout but would be 
time well invested and save the cost of a non-standard  printer.
 
Marsha
 
Marsha Lynn
Director
Odon Winkelpleck Public  Library
812-636-4949
odonlibrar...@aol.com
 
In a message dated 1/21/2010 11:46:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
terl...@biblio.org writes:

Hi  all— 
What is your library system using  to print your spine labels with 
Evergreen? 
One of our libraries (going live  in March) is looking for a low-cost spine 
label printer recommendation and  we’d like to hear the good (and bad) 
experiences out there  … 
Thanks! 
Amy 
=== 
Amy  Terlaga 
Assistant Director, User  Services 
Bibliomation 
32 Crest  Road 
Middlebury,  CT  06762 
(203)577-4070  x101 
_http://www.biblio.org_ (http://www.biblio.org/)  
 





 
 


[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Catalog questions : limiters and wildcards

2010-01-26 Thread Elizabeth Thomsen
We're in the process of setting up a test catalog, and have a couple of 
questions about the advanced search screen and the use of limiters.


We notice that the catalog lets you limit a search to audiobooks and 
nonfiction, which is a perfectly logical search, but it returns 0 hits. 
 This looks like the system is saying the library doesn't own any 
nonfiction audiobooks about Italy (or whatever) rather than that 
audiobooks records are not indexed with this limiter.  Does anyone have 
their data indexed to include fiction/nonfiction for audiobooks?  And 
does anyone have their Advance Search screen set up so that the user 
can't choose invalid combinations of limiters (if the user clicks on 
Audiobooks, the Fiction/Nonfiction options wouldn't appear)?


The other thing we're interested in is having users be able to do a 
search on a combination of limiters with no search term, and get a set 
of results.  For example, I might want to see all the Braille books or 
all the Russian language children's videorecordings.  Does anyone have a 
way to do that?


Thanks in advance!

--
Elizabeth Thomsen, Member Services Manager
NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange
26 Cherry Hill Drive
Danvers MA 01923
Blog: http://www.noblenet.org/ethomsen/
E-mail: e...@noblenet.org



[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Permissions wrong?

2010-01-26 Thread Victoria Bush
We're still running Evergreen 1.4, and for some reason the circulators group is 
unable to set the profile group when a new patron is registered. I've tried to 
add the appropriate permissions, but I could have sworn this was working when 
the databases were first set up. 

What permission do I need to set? CREATE_USER doesn't seem to cut it. 
--
Victoria Bush
Opscan Evaluation Manager
Center for Teaching, Learning  Technology
vb...@ilstu.edu





Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] congrats Natural Resources Canada

2010-01-26 Thread Jonathan Rochkind

On Jan 26, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Duimovich, George wrote:

IMHO, the big challenges in the federal system relates to the  
relative sense of disempowerment that many libraries seem to have  
vis a vis their technology decision-making, as well as the relative  
lack of support offered to those who see business justification for  
using open source.


Obviously not just federal libraries, this is common.

  Add to that the usual faulty pre-suppositions about risk and  
other fear factors


The article I wrote in Library Journal a while ago was with the motive  
of trying to get people not to be irrationally afraid of the risk of  
open source -- especially when the open source is supported by a  
reputable support vendor who you trust, it's no more risky (and in  
some ways less) than a proprietary solution. Speaking to the converted  
here, but maybe my article will be helpful to some in showing to  
administrators/colleagues/decision makers.  http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6611591.html