[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections?
One of the things we wanted to do when we developed Evergreen was to give libraries better options around deposit collections. Under our vendor based ILS, libraries had to use a prescribed list of types that became our circ modifiers and MARC Types. One of those was DEPOSIT. PINES libraries wanted to be able to pull stats on what format the deposit item was as well as that it was a deposit item. In the old ILS they couldn't do this, so the developers conceived the idea of a deposit flag that was separate from the circ mod and MARC Type yet could have circ policy implications as well. Notably those items with a deposit flag of yes could not be held outside the lib system. With the change in how circulation policies are administered in more recent versions of Evergreen, that flag was taken out of consideration and our libraries cannot manage their deposit collections in their customary manner. As you can imagine, they are not happy. We may open a bug report or consider other development answers; but, as we contemplate how we would like to approach a solution we are wondering how other libraries handle deposit collections. Do your deposit collections circulate differently than other items, particularly with holds? Do you assign a circ modifier? If so, what about stats for formats? Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections?
Hi Elaine, Can you explain what a deposit collection is? I've never heard of our libraries using anything by that name. Showing my ignorance, Mary From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Hardy, Elaine Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:05 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group; Evergreen Catalogers Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections? One of the things we wanted to do when we developed Evergreen was to give libraries better options around deposit collections. Under our vendor based ILS, libraries had to use a prescribed list of types that became our circ modifiers and MARC Types. One of those was DEPOSIT. PINES libraries wanted to be able to pull stats on what format the deposit item was as well as that it was a deposit item. In the old ILS they couldn't do this, so the developers conceived the idea of a deposit flag that was separate from the circ mod and MARC Type yet could have circ policy implications as well. Notably those items with a deposit flag of yes could not be held outside the lib system. With the change in how circulation policies are administered in more recent versions of Evergreen, that flag was taken out of consideration and our libraries cannot manage their deposit collections in their customary manner. As you can imagine, they are not happy. We may open a bug report or consider other development answers; but, as we contemplate how we would like to approach a solution we are wondering how other libraries handle deposit collections. Do your deposit collections circulate differently than other items, particularly with holds? Do you assign a circ modifier? If so, what about stats for formats? Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections?
It's used for items that are high demand and have a high incidence of theft and damage (like test books). The patron has to put down a monetary deposit at checkout that is returned when the item is returned. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:32 AM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'; 'Evergreen Catalogers' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections? Hi Elaine, Can you explain what a deposit collection is? I've never heard of our libraries using anything by that name. Showing my ignorance, Mary From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Hardy, Elaine Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:05 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group; Evergreen Catalogers Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections? One of the things we wanted to do when we developed Evergreen was to give libraries better options around deposit collections. Under our vendor based ILS, libraries had to use a prescribed list of types that became our circ modifiers and MARC Types. One of those was DEPOSIT. PINES libraries wanted to be able to pull stats on what format the deposit item was as well as that it was a deposit item. In the old ILS they couldn't do this, so the developers conceived the idea of a deposit flag that was separate from the circ mod and MARC Type yet could have circ policy implications as well. Notably those items with a deposit flag of yes could not be held outside the lib system. With the change in how circulation policies are administered in more recent versions of Evergreen, that flag was taken out of consideration and our libraries cannot manage their deposit collections in their customary manner. As you can imagine, they are not happy. We may open a bug report or consider other development answers; but, as we contemplate how we would like to approach a solution we are wondering how other libraries handle deposit collections. Do your deposit collections circulate differently than other items, particularly with holds? Do you assign a circ modifier? If so, what about stats for formats? Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Upcoming Documentation Interest Group Meeting: Thursday June 7 (TODAY)
Hello everyone, The Evergreen Documentation Interest Group has its next meeting scheduled for TODAY Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 2:00 PM EST on the #Evergreen IRC channel (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc.php). Anyone interested in documentation is welcome to attend. An agenda has been posted at http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meetings but changes and additions to the agenda are welcome. Thanks, Yamil P.S. I plan to try using Meetbot to run this meeting. Just participate as normal, but don't be thrown off by my use of the special Meetbot #command syntax. More information here: http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=community:using- meetbots[]=meetb
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections?
Thanks for the explanation. I know for certain now that our libraries don't use this setting. Mary From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Hardy, Elaine Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:50 AM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'; 'Evergreen Catalogers' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections? It's used for items that are high demand and have a high incidence of theft and damage (like test books). The patron has to put down a monetary deposit at checkout that is returned when the item is returned. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:32 AM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'; 'Evergreen Catalogers' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections? Hi Elaine, Can you explain what a deposit collection is? I've never heard of our libraries using anything by that name. Showing my ignorance, Mary From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Hardy, Elaine Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:05 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group; Evergreen Catalogers Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How do you handle deposit collections? One of the things we wanted to do when we developed Evergreen was to give libraries better options around deposit collections. Under our vendor based ILS, libraries had to use a prescribed list of types that became our circ modifiers and MARC Types. One of those was DEPOSIT. PINES libraries wanted to be able to pull stats on what format the deposit item was as well as that it was a deposit item. In the old ILS they couldn't do this, so the developers conceived the idea of a deposit flag that was separate from the circ mod and MARC Type yet could have circ policy implications as well. Notably those items with a deposit flag of yes could not be held outside the lib system. With the change in how circulation policies are administered in more recent versions of Evergreen, that flag was taken out of consideration and our libraries cannot manage their deposit collections in their customary manner. As you can imagine, they are not happy. We may open a bug report or consider other development answers; but, as we contemplate how we would like to approach a solution we are wondering how other libraries handle deposit collections. Do your deposit collections circulate differently than other items, particularly with holds? Do you assign a circ modifier? If so, what about stats for formats? Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Configuring applied penalties and messages
Hi Thomas, Is there a way of doing this from the staff client? Thanks! Gordana Gordana Vitez Library Services Systems Coordinator NC Libraries and Learning Commons Niagara College 300 Woodlawn Rd Welland Ontario L3C 7L3 Phone: (905) 735 2211 ext 7404 Fax: (905) 736 6021 gvi...@niagaracollege.ca On 6/6/2012 at 5:20 PM, in message 20120606172023.781033cqtxt3r...@mail.mvlc.org, Thomas Berezansky tsb...@mvlc.org wrote: You need to do two things. 1 - Update the org_depth for the STAFF_* penalties (and possibly any INVALID_* ones) to be 0. Don't change them all, some should be ignoring it anyway but are placed based on the owner of group penalty thresholds. 2 - Update the existing standing penalties of those IDs to be owned by the consortia, as the org_depth only applies on *new* ones. This is easiest in the DB itself, and if you only changed the STAFF_ and maybe INVALID_ ones this should work: UPDATE actor.usr_standing_penalty SET org_unit = 1 WHERE standing_penalty IN (SELECT id FROM config.standing_penalty WHERE org_depth = 0); Thomas Berezansky Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Quoting Turner, Jennifer M jennifer.tur...@mnsu.edu: How can staff-applied standing penalties and messages be configured to display at all org units in a consortium? Currently, when we apply an alert or note message from a branch library, it only displays to staff logged in at that library. Messages applied from the headquarters location (system-level) may be viewed at all org units. We've looked at the settings for Standing Penalty Types (Admin Local Admin Standing Penalties). Do we need to adjust the org_depth setting here? Currently this field is NULL for all penalty types. If it needs to be adjusted, what integer value should be entered. I've experimented with 0, 1, 2, and 3, but none of those seemed to change the system's behavior. Thanks for any assistance! Jenny Jennifer Turner | PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities | 507-389-2000
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Configuring applied penalties and messages
Step 1 you can do from the staff client, there should be a server admin menu item for that. Step 2 I don't know of any way to do from the staff client outside of removing and re-creating every single staff penalty manually. Thomas Berezansky Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Quoting Gordana Vitez gvi...@niagaracollege.ca: Hi Thomas, Is there a way of doing this from the staff client? Thanks! Gordana Gordana Vitez Library Services Systems Coordinator NC Libraries and Learning Commons Niagara College 300 Woodlawn Rd Welland Ontario L3C 7L3 Phone: (905) 735 2211 ext 7404 Fax: (905) 736 6021 gvi...@niagaracollege.ca On 6/6/2012 at 5:20 PM, in message 20120606172023.781033cqtxt3r...@mail.mvlc.org, Thomas Berezansky tsb...@mvlc.org wrote: You need to do two things. 1 - Update the org_depth for the STAFF_* penalties (and possibly any INVALID_* ones) to be 0. Don't change them all, some should be ignoring it anyway but are placed based on the owner of group penalty thresholds. 2 - Update the existing standing penalties of those IDs to be owned by the consortia, as the org_depth only applies on *new* ones. This is easiest in the DB itself, and if you only changed the STAFF_ and maybe INVALID_ ones this should work: UPDATE actor.usr_standing_penalty SET org_unit = 1 WHERE standing_penalty IN (SELECT id FROM config.standing_penalty WHERE org_depth = 0); Thomas Berezansky Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Quoting Turner, Jennifer M jennifer.tur...@mnsu.edu: How can staff-applied standing penalties and messages be configured to display at all org units in a consortium? Currently, when we apply an alert or note message from a branch library, it only displays to staff logged in at that library. Messages applied from the headquarters location (system-level) may be viewed at all org units. We've looked at the settings for Standing Penalty Types (Admin Local Admin Standing Penalties). Do we need to adjust the org_depth setting here? Currently this field is NULL for all penalty types. If it needs to be adjusted, what integer value should be entered. I've experimented with 0, 1, 2, and 3, but none of those seemed to change the system's behavior. Thanks for any assistance! Jenny Jennifer Turner | PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities | 507-389-2000
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Hi Bob, As one of the website folks, I'll take a look at updating the KML files on the Evergreen website to include information for your libraries. I've been meaning to try doing more work on those files anyways. Will try to resolve as soon as possible. -- Ben On 6/7/12 9:59 AM, Bob Neeper wrote: Would someone extract the pertinent info from the attached kml file and add it to the 2 kml's on the Evergreen site at: http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries Also add COOL Ohio to the United States list. Thanks, Bob R. W. (Bob) Neeper Community Library 44 Burrer Dr. Sunbury, Oh 43074 Tel: (740)-965-3901 -- Benjamin Shum Open Source Software Coordinator Bibliomation, Inc. 32 Crest Road Middlebury, CT 06762 203-577-4070, ext. 113
