Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this
Hi Jim, Since your collection contains photos and artifacts in addition to traditional books, you may want to look into open-source collections management software. This software is often utilized by museums to catalog a wide range of objects, and they support a variety of metadata standards. This software might give you more precise cataloging for your collections. My ESI colleague, Angela Kilsdonk, mentioned a couple of products that you might want to explore: CollectiveAccess http://www.collectiveaccess.org/ CollectionSpace http://www.collectionspace.org/ If you decide to use Evergreen or Koha, then you would be using MARC records to describe your objects and books. As Galen and Jason mentioned, you could simplify the MARC record so that your description is very basic, which could make cataloging simple for your staff. You may want to look at the demos for each and try to catalog a few items from your collection. That might give you a sense of how they work and if they would meet the needs of your collection and your staff. Hope that helps! Thanks, Sally On 3/28/2012 6:18 PM, Jim Hall wrote: I'll try to answer each of you. Steve Wills: I checked the site you linked. I can't picture the church buying the Dell. They are determined that we use an old HP server that they have replaced. If we can get the software setup alone, maybe. Sally Fortin: It sounds like you're working on an interesting project! Steve just made an interesting suggestion for working with digital content, and I have a few general questions that might help as you search for software to administer your church library: 1. What type of special collections do you have, e.g. photographs, objects, etc? Photos, paintings, artifacts, printed material, audio tapes - think of a museum. 2. Do you have digital content to make available? Not yet, but we will. 3. What kind of access do you want to provide to these items? Do you want to loan any of your collection(s) out to church members, the community, etc.? Or do you simply want to make these items findable? Access will from a computer in the church. Online someday, maybe. Nothing will ever be loaned to anybody. Findable and viewable but not touched. The items that will be viewable will have historical descriptions, dates, people, etc., and one to several photos of the materal. That's a healthy database. 4. Outside of special collections, what is your library collection like? It sounds like you have traditional books in addition to your special collections? Special Bibles, faith related books, tapes and, discs; and a fairly extensive number of ordinary books such as you would find in any library. George Dulmovich: Both systems are adept and flexible enough to manage a wide variety of collections, small and large, including special collections. I don't want to discourage you from looking at Koha or Evergreen, but both systems would require your staff / volunteers to work in MARC21-based environment, which IMHO may be a big barrier for a small volunteer-driven library looking at adopting a Koha or EG solution. This may not be a problem if a good frontend can be found FWIW, my former boss is using this system in her church's library: www.resourcemate.com. It's not MARC21 compliant, etc., but she indicated good experience with it, especially given the number of non-librarian (and non-techie) volunteers engaged in managing, supporting their library. I will tell them about resourcemate at the meeting this Saturday. Jason Etheridge: Though I believe with Koha the record editor has labelled fields, so you could stick with Title and Author for simplistic cataloging (or with Evergreen, just remember 245 = title and 100 = author). I know that would horrify a cataloger versed in MARC, though, and you'd be losing subject headings, record types, etc. I'll ask them what this will mean to them. Galen Charlton: In addition, Koha's MARC framework system would allow setting up a very minimal template for entering bibs so that volunteers don't have to even see anything other than (say) title and author. Evergreen's record template system can also be used for setting up minimal templates, although they expose a bit more of the MARC. I do need to have you folks understand that the two committees want the same software to handle both library and museum. I don't know if that is at all possible, but I was tasked with asking, so I am. Jim -- Sally Fortin Director of Education Equinox Software Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source Tel:770-709-5572 Email: sfor...@esilibrary.com Fax:1-866-497-6390
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this
If you decide to use Evergreen or Koha, then you would be using MARC records to describe your objects and books. These records can also include URL's, so depending on your digital repository software, you have a simple means of integrating with software like Evergreen or Koha. -- Jason Etheridge | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: ja...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com | Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this
At the moment I am researching for my church. Our library (small) is looking for different software. Evergreen and Koha would both work well. Additionally, our Heritage Committee is looking for a database for our historical material. Our congregation is 175 years old, that's a lot of stuff! What the committee wants to know is if Evergreen has a Special Collections kind of usage? If so, could we use Evergreen for both projects? I'm sorry to be so vague, but I don't know what questions I need to ask. If we can have a dialog, I may be able to get more specific. Thank You
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this
Hi Jim, One option that you might want to take a look at encorporates Evergreen-ils with a Digital Asset system is the Discovery Garden product; lib2o which you can view at http://discoverygarden.ca/lib2o I would be very interested in hearing a impartial evaulation of this solution for your case. I have a similar set of cases in several rural towns up in Massachusetts and Maine that are item rich and technology poor. Best Steve Wills -Original Message- From: Jim Hall [mailto:volunteer@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:39 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this At the moment I am researching for my church. Our library (small) islooking for different software. Evergreen and Koha would both workwell. Additionally, our Heritage Committee is looking for a databasefor our historical material. Our congregation is 175 years old, that'sa lot of stuff! What the committee wants to know is if Evergreen hasa Special Collections kind of usage? If so, could we use Evergreenfor both projects?I'm sorry to be so vague, but I don't know what questions I need toask. If we can have a dialog, I may be able to get more specific.Thank You
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this
Hi Jim, It sounds like you're working on an interesting project! Steve just made an interesting suggestion for working with digital content, and I have a few general questions that might help as you search for software to administer your church library: 1. What type of special collections do you have, e.g. photographs, objects, etc? 2. Do you have digital content to make available? 3. What kind of access do you want to provide to these items? Do you want to loan any of your collection(s) out to church members, the community, etc.? Or do you simply want to make these items findable? 4. Outside of special collections, what is your library collection like? It sounds like you have traditional books in addition to your special collections? Thanks, Sally On 3/28/2012 1:17 PM, Steve Wills wrote: Hi Jim, One option that you might want to take a look at encorporates Evergreen-ils with a Digital Asset system is the Discovery Garden product; lib2o which you can view at http://discoverygarden.ca/lib2o I would be very interested in hearing a impartial evaulation of this solution for your case. I have a similar set of cases in several rural towns up in Massachusetts and Maine that are item rich and technology poor. Best Steve Wills -Original Message- *From:* Jim Hall [mailto:volunteer@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:39 AM *To:* open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this At the moment I am researching for my church. Our library (small) is looking for different software. Evergreen and Koha would both work well. Additionally, our Heritage Committee is looking for a database for our historical material. Our congregation is 175 years old, that's a lot of stuff! What the committee wants to know is if Evergreen has a Special Collections kind of usage? If so, could we use Evergreen for both projects? I'm sorry to be so vague, but I don't know what questions I need to ask. If we can have a dialog, I may be able to get more specific. Thank You -- Sally Fortin Director of Education Equinox Software Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source Tel:770-709-5572 Email: sfor...@esilibrary.com Fax:1-866-497-6390
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this
Hello Jim, Both systems are adept and flexible enough to manage a wide variety of collections, small and large, including special collections. I don't want to discourage you from looking at Koha or Evergreen, but both systems would require your staff / volunteers to work in MARC21-based environment, which IMHO may be a big barrier for a small volunteer-driven library looking at adopting a Koha or EG solution. FWIW, my former boss is using this system in her church's library: www.resourcemate.com. It's not MARC21 compliant, etc., but she indicated good experience with it, especially given the number of non-librarian (and non-techie) volunteers engaged in managing, supporting their library. Good luck with your search. George George Duimovich NRCan Library / Bibliothèque de RNCan -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hall Sent: March 28, 2012 11:39 To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this At the moment I am researching for my church. Our library (small) is looking for different software. Evergreen and Koha would both work well. Additionally, our Heritage Committee is looking for a database for our historical material. Our congregation is 175 years old, that's a lot of stuff! What the committee wants to know is if Evergreen has a Special Collections kind of usage? If so, could we use Evergreen for both projects? I'm sorry to be so vague, but I don't know what questions I need to ask. If we can have a dialog, I may be able to get more specific. Thank You
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this
I don't want to discourage you from looking at Koha or Evergreen, but both systems would require your staff / volunteers to work in MARC21-based environment, which IMHO may be a big barrier for a small volunteer-driven library looking at adopting a Koha or EG solution. Though I believe with Koha the record editor has labelled fields, so you could stick with Title and Author for simplistic cataloging (or with Evergreen, just remember 245 = title and 100 = author). I know that would horrify a cataloger versed in MARC, though, and you'd be losing subject headings, record types, etc. -- Jason Etheridge | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: ja...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com | Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can Evergreen do this
Hi, On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Jason Etheridge wrote: I don't want to discourage you from looking at Koha or Evergreen, but both systems would require your staff / volunteers to work in MARC21-based environment, which IMHO may be a big barrier for a small volunteer-driven library looking at adopting a Koha or EG solution. Though I believe with Koha the record editor has labelled fields, so you could stick with Title and Author for simplistic cataloging (or with Evergreen, just remember 245 = title and 100 = author). I know that would horrify a cataloger versed in MARC, though, and you'd be losing subject headings, record types, etc. In addition, Koha's MARC framework system would allow setting up a very minimal template for entering bibs so that volunteers don't have to even see anything other than (say) title and author. Evergreen's record template system can also be used for setting up minimal templates, although they expose a bit more of the MARC. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Director of Support and Implementation Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
