Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 56
Jason, Thank you for your response. I am looking at things from within the staff client and not following everything you are saying, but I do know that our circulation matrix matchpoints are set so that circulation modifiers are ranked at 30 and permission group is ranked at 50. Everything else is set to 0 as we are a single library system with very simple rules governing our circulation. In essence the problem we are having is that by limiting one circulation modifier to 5 items, every other circ mod that is limited to 5 is treated as one of the 5. So instead of having 5 dvd and 5 magazines checked out at the same time we can only have 5 dvds or 5 magazines or a combination of those items totaling 5. Deana Deana Cunningham Branch Manager, South Branch Library 1550 S. Campus Dr. Creedmoor, NC 27522 Phone: (919) 528-1752 Fax: (919) 528-1376 deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] on behalf of open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:00 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 56 Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-ils-general or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org You can reach the person managing the list at open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest... Today's Topics: 1. Help with Circulation Limit Sets Groups (Deana Cunningham) 2. Re: Help with Circulation Limit Sets Groups (Boyer, Jason A) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:16:48 + From: Deana Cunningham deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help with Circulation Limit Sets Groups To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: CD24AB0C498ACE4090F4EC930102116B1AA1C11E@GRVEXCH.granvillecounty.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, We recently migrated from Evergreen 2.3.2 to 2.5.1, and I am having trouble separating out Circulation Limit Sets. In 2.3.2 I had Circulation Limit Sets set up for the majority of our items (books, etc.) at 999 (unlimited). I have Circulation Limit Sets for our DVDs and Magazines (5 items at a time). This should be 5 dvd's and 5 magazines max. However, for some reason the system is seeing them as the same type item (even though I edited the Circulation Limit Sets to include the correct circulation modifiers and broke up the original set DVD, Magazine into two separate sets). So if a patron has 5 magazines out they aren't able to check out even one DVD. We also have several other item types that are limited because of their type, and I want the system to be able to distinguish that a patron can have one item of AV equipment and one of our reusable carry bags checked out at the same time - but not two carry bags. I am also not really clear on the impact of circulation limit groups on these policies. Are sets specific to items and groups specific to people? I do not know for a fact that this was working in 2.3.2, as it is rare that this situation arises, but since I discovered it tonight I have had no success in clearing it up. Any advice? Thanks! Deana Deana Cunningham Branch Manager, South Branch Library 1550 S. Campus Dr. Creedmoor, NC 27522 Phone: (919) 528-1752 Fax: (919) 528-1376 deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20140327/41336863/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:24:27 + From: Boyer, Jason A jboy...@library.in.gov Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help with Circulation Limit Sets Groups To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: ab411767cb16e440b9442011500066970df34...@iotmbsp3avw.state.in.us Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is how we've got things set up in Indiana and they seem to be working well: We don't use the groups for anything. (They're not at all related to user groups, but I'm having a hard time determining the point from a quick glance) We have 4 entries in config.circ_limit_set: dvds, videos, games, and art. Since they're consortium-wide limits, the owning_lib is the consortium and
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 56
I wasn't sure how helpful that would be if you're using the staff client. Part of the issue there is that it's difficult to see all of the matchpoint-limit set maps, because there's no interface that shows what that table looks like; you have to click each circ matchpoint and scroll to the bottom to see what does and doesn't have a limit set attached. Something that may help is that if you have the Admin/Local Administration/Circulation Policies or Admin/Local Administration/Circulation Limit Sets pages up you can double-click on items to view the connections between matchpoints and limit sets or limit sets and circ modifiers. It's possible you may still have some limit sets that have too many circ modifiers, or you may have limit sets attached to unexpected matchpoints. If you (or someone who will do you a favor) have direct sql access to your database this query may point out any potentially problematic limit sets: select ccls.name, ccls.items_out, string_agg(cclscmm.circ_mod,',') as linked_circ_mods from config.circ_limit_set ccls left join config.circ_limit_set_circ_mod_map cclscmm on (ccls.id = cclscmm.limit_set) group by 1,2; That will show you each of your limit sets and all of the circ modifiers currently attached to them. If there's anything that looks weird there it may be what's causing your problem. Note too that if you have any limit sets without linked circ modifiers I don't know what happens; you may want to make sure you don't have any of those. The total number of checkouts is usually dealt with in patron profiles, you shouldn't need any '999' limit sets unless you really do want to limit them to 999 items. Jason -- Jason Boyer Indiana State Library http://library.in.gov/ 317-234-2128 -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Deana Cunningham Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:15 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 56 Jason, Thank you for your response. I am looking at things from within the staff client and not following everything you are saying, but I do know that our circulation matrix matchpoints are set so that circulation modifiers are ranked at 30 and permission group is ranked at 50. Everything else is set to 0 as we are a single library system with very simple rules governing our circulation. In essence the problem we are having is that by limiting one circulation modifier to 5 items, every other circ mod that is limited to 5 is treated as one of the 5. So instead of having 5 dvd and 5 magazines checked out at the same time we can only have 5 dvds or 5 magazines or a combination of those items totaling 5. Deana Deana Cunningham Branch Manager, South Branch Library 1550 S. Campus Dr. Creedmoor, NC 27522 Phone: (919) 528-1752 Fax: (919) 528-1376 deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] on behalf of open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:00 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 56 Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-ils-general or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org You can reach the person managing the list at open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest... Today's Topics: 1. Help with Circulation Limit Sets Groups (Deana Cunningham) 2. Re: Help with Circulation Limit Sets Groups (Boyer, Jason A) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:16:48 + From: Deana Cunningham deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help with Circulation Limit Sets Groups To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: CD24AB0C498ACE4090F4EC930102116B1AA1C11E@GRVEXCH.granvillecounty.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, We recently migrated from Evergreen 2.3.2 to 2.5.1, and I am having trouble separating out Circulation Limit Sets. In 2.3.2 I had Circulation Limit Sets set up for the majority of our items (books, etc.) at 999 (unlimited). I have Circulation Limit Sets for our DVDs and Magazines (5 items at a time). This should be 5 dvd's and 5 magazines max. However
