Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
Having just had the time to really read this, I'm also throwing my 2p in support of the bootcamp idea. At this exact moment, I'm not sure how much time/energy I could devote to it, but am willing to help as much as I can. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Holly Brennan <haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us> wrote: > Disregard my request for the backstory. I found the first email in my spam > filter... > > -Original Message- > From: Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Holly > Brennan > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:26 AM > To: Evergreen Discussion Group > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant > > I feel that I missed the beginning of this conversation. This is the first > email about this topic in my inbox. > > I am very interested in a developer bootcamp! Please fill me in. Thanks! > > -Holly > > -Original Message- > From: Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jim > Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:33 PM > To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant > > All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the > bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such > purposes). I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so > definitely would attend if travel was covered. I would like to contribute > code but so far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it > out on my own. If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for > a few days and learn how the process works I would definitely show up. > > Jim > > > My questions related to the bootcamp idea are: > > * Does this sounds like a good idea? > * Are there people who would be willing to help out as instructors/mentors > for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if I hear crickets on > this question, I know it's not something we should pursue further. Also, > please note, my idea is that any travel expenses related to the bootcamp > would be covered by the grant. > * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for > the bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of > volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request. > * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there ways > we can improve upon this idea? > > Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to > hearing your thoughts! > > Kathy > > > -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 *Our Kickin' Website <http://hagerstownlibrary.org>, Our Rockin' Facebook Page <http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary>, and The Nettle Creek Players <http://nettlecreekplayers.com>*
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
I feel that I missed the beginning of this conversation. This is the first email about this topic in my inbox. I am very interested in a developer bootcamp! Please fill me in. Thanks! -Holly -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jim Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:33 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such purposes). I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so definitely would attend if travel was covered. I would like to contribute code but so far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it out on my own. If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for a few days and learn how the process works I would definitely show up. Jim My questions related to the bootcamp idea are: * Does this sounds like a good idea? * Are there people who would be willing to help out as instructors/mentors for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if I hear crickets on this question, I know it's not something we should pursue further. Also, please note, my idea is that any travel expenses related to the bootcamp would be covered by the grant. * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for the bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request. * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there ways we can improve upon this idea? Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to hearing your thoughts! Kathy
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
Who would we envision as doing the training? On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Yamil Suarez <ysua...@berklee.edu> wrote: > I am very interested in the bootcamp as both a student and a trainer > (for the areas I am strong in). The push to make installation easier > is also something that we should look into again. > > Yamil > > > > > > > > Yamil Suarez, MCS > Library Systems Administrator/Developer > > Stan Getz Library > Berklee College of Music > 1140 Boylston St > Boston, MA 02215 > > ysua...@berklee.edu > 617-747-2617 > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Holly Brennan <haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us> > wrote: > > I feel that I missed the beginning of this conversation. This is the > first email about this topic in my inbox. > > > > I am very interested in a developer bootcamp! Please fill me in. Thanks! > > > > -Holly > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jim > Taylor > > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:33 PM > > To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' > > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant > > > > All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the > bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such > purposes). I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so > definitely would attend if travel was covered. I would like to contribute > code but so far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it > out on my own. If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for > a few days and learn how the process works I would definitely show up. > > > > Jim > > > > > > My questions related to the bootcamp idea are: > > > > * Does this sounds like a good idea? > > * Are there people who would be willing to help out as > instructors/mentors for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if > I hear crickets on this question, I know it's not something we should > pursue further. Also, please note, my idea is that any travel expenses > related to the bootcamp would be covered by the grant. > > * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for > the bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of > volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request. > > * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there > ways we can improve upon this idea? > > > > Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to > hearing your thoughts! > > > > Kathy > > > > >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
I think both of those sound like great ideas, and I would be willing to help with bootcamp planning. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM, McCanna, Terran < tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote: > I'm with Jim - all good ideas, but personally I would LOVE to attend a > developer bootcamp. Each time I look at the code I learn something new > about how it works, but I'm sure I could contribute a lot more if I had > several solid days of training. > > > Terran McCanna > PINES Program Manager > Georgia Public Library Service > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 > Atlanta, GA 30345 > 404-235-7138 > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Taylor" <jtay...@jtdata.com> > To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:33:17 PM > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant > > All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the > bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such > purposes). I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so > definitely would attend if travel was covered. I would like to contribute > code but so far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it > out on my own. If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for > a few days and learn how the process works I would definitely show up. > > Jim > > > My questions related to the bootcamp idea are: > > * Does this sounds like a good idea? > * Are there people who would be willing to help out as instructors/mentors > for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if I hear crickets on > this question, I know it's not something we should pursue further. Also, > please note, my idea is that any travel expenses related to the bootcamp > would be covered by the grant. > * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for > the bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of > volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request. > * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there ways > we can improve upon this idea? > > Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to > hearing your thoughts! > > Kathy > > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
Disregard my request for the backstory. I found the first email in my spam filter... -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Holly Brennan Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:26 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant I feel that I missed the beginning of this conversation. This is the first email about this topic in my inbox. I am very interested in a developer bootcamp! Please fill me in. Thanks! -Holly -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jim Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:33 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such purposes). I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so definitely would attend if travel was covered. I would like to contribute code but so far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it out on my own. If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for a few days and learn how the process works I would definitely show up. Jim My questions related to the bootcamp idea are: * Does this sounds like a good idea? * Are there people who would be willing to help out as instructors/mentors for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if I hear crickets on this question, I know it's not something we should pursue further. Also, please note, my idea is that any travel expenses related to the bootcamp would be covered by the grant. * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for the bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request. * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there ways we can improve upon this idea? Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to hearing your thoughts! Kathy
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
I'm with Jim - all good ideas, but personally I would LOVE to attend a developer bootcamp. Each time I look at the code I learn something new about how it works, but I'm sure I could contribute a lot more if I had several solid days of training. Terran McCanna PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30345 404-235-7138 tmcca...@georgialibraries.org - Original Message - From: "Jim Taylor" <jtay...@jtdata.com> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:33:17 PM Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such purposes). I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so definitely would attend if travel was covered. I would like to contribute code but so far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it out on my own. If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for a few days and learn how the process works I would definitely show up. Jim My questions related to the bootcamp idea are: * Does this sounds like a good idea? * Are there people who would be willing to help out as instructors/mentors for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if I hear crickets on this question, I know it's not something we should pursue further. Also, please note, my idea is that any travel expenses related to the bootcamp would be covered by the grant. * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for the bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request. * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there ways we can improve upon this idea? Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to hearing your thoughts! Kathy
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
Hi Rogan,
I envisioned that the instructors would be drawn from the core
committers and other veteran technical folks in the community. In
addition to having these tech skills, though, I think we need people who
can work well with people. In order to be a valuable experience, I do
think some of our strongest developers should be among the instructors.
Who we recruit for instructors will also largely depend upon the content
we deliver. If we decide to move forward with the idea, maybe this is
something we can flesh out further at the conference. However, some
ideas I have off the top of my head are:
* installation - if we move forward with making installation easier,
this step may not require as much time as it otherwise would.
* community conventions - how we submit code in the community, how we
use git, maybe include an intro for signing off on code / pushing code
to the working repo.
* the overview of the Evergreen infrastructure that was done at the last
hack-a-way would probably be good
* developing the browser client with AngularJS - I know there is a
presentation on this at the conference, but I suspect we could spend a
lot of time on a hands-on session.
* How about a look at the inner workings of query parser? Or would that
just scare people away?
These are just some ideas, but I'm sure there are a lot more for others.
When planning out the content, I actually would be most interested in
hearing from developers who have just recently started working in
Evergreen.
Also, when I used the word 'mentor' earlier, I want to clarify I'm not
talking about mentors as we had with the GSoC or Outreachy programs who
are committed to working with one intern on one particular project.
Instead, I'm thinking the instructors should be committed to being
available via IRC or the dev list to answer questions and to participate
in some (not all) of the regular chat sessions we schedule after the
in-person boot camp. As a whole, I think many of us are already
committed to giving that level of support to people when they are just
starting out. But there will likely be a greater time commitment with
more new people dedicated to making contributions.
Of course, this is all in the idea phase now, and if people have other
ideas on how this could work or maybe incentives we could supply to get
people involved, feel free to share them. I know we will need to iron
out many details. How do we select instructors? How do we select
participants? Should participants be required to have a certain level of
skills? If so, what? One of the nice things about this grant is that, in
the first phase, we can just focus on the idea. If the idea is seen as
being good enough to move to the next phase, then we'll be asked to
provide more details.
I know it would be a big time commitment, but, at the same time, the end
result could be that we have more active contributors in the community,
which, in the end, can help with the future workload of supporting and
improving Evergreen.
It also fits in well with the discussion we had at the hack-a-way
regarding mentoring people on the path to becoming a contributor to
Evergreen.
Thanks!
Kathy
On 03/17/2016 03:36 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote:
Who would we envision as doing the training?
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Yamil Suarez <ysua...@berklee.edu
<mailto:ysua...@berklee.edu>> wrote:
I am very interested in the bootcamp as both a student and a trainer
(for the areas I am strong in). The push to make installation easier
is also something that we should look into again.
Yamil
Yamil Suarez, MCS
Library Systems Administrator/Developer
Stan Getz Library
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston St
Boston, MA 02215
ysua...@berklee.edu <mailto:ysua...@berklee.edu>
617-747-2617
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Holly Brennan
<haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us <mailto:haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us>> wrote:
> I feel that I missed the beginning of this conversation. This is
the first email about this topic in my inbox.
>
> I am very interested in a developer bootcamp! Please fill me in.
Thanks!
>
> -Holly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
<mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>] On
Behalf Of Jim Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:33 PM
> To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
>
> All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested
in the bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install
Evergreen for such purposes). I would probably even be willing to
pay my own way so definitely would attend if travel was covered.
I would like
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
I am very interested in the bootcamp as both a student and a trainer (for the areas I am strong in). The push to make installation easier is also something that we should look into again. Yamil Yamil Suarez, MCS Library Systems Administrator/Developer Stan Getz Library Berklee College of Music 1140 Boylston St Boston, MA 02215 ysua...@berklee.edu 617-747-2617 On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Holly Brennan <haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us> wrote: > I feel that I missed the beginning of this conversation. This is the first > email about this topic in my inbox. > > I am very interested in a developer bootcamp! Please fill me in. Thanks! > > -Holly > > -Original Message- > From: Open-ils-general > [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jim > Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:33 PM > To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant > > All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the > bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such > purposes). I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so definitely > would attend if travel was covered. I would like to contribute code but so > far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it out on my own. > If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for a few days and > learn how the process works I would definitely show up. > > Jim > > > My questions related to the bootcamp idea are: > > * Does this sounds like a good idea? > * Are there people who would be willing to help out as instructors/mentors > for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if I hear crickets on > this question, I know it's not something we should pursue further. Also, > please note, my idea is that any travel expenses related to the bootcamp > would be covered by the grant. > * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for the > bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of > volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request. > * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there ways we > can improve upon this idea? > > Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to hearing > your thoughts! > > Kathy > >
