[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

[Donald Butterworth]

Hi All,

In the "Holdable?" category in the Copy Editor, the value is "Yes", but in
the "Holdable" column on the Record Summary screen, the value is "Not
holdable".

Could someone please tell us what check box we have failed to check?

Don

-- 
Don Butterworth
Collection Management Librarian /
Faculty Associate
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

[Joan Kranich]

Hi Don,

Is the Copy Location of this item Holdable?

Joan

Joan Kranich
Member Services Supervisor
C/W MARS, Inc.
508-755-3323, ext. 321 or ext. 1

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Donald 
Butterworth
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:17 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

Hi All,
In the "Holdable?" category in the Copy Editor, the value is "Yes", but in the 
"Holdable" column on the Record Summary screen, the value is "Not holdable".
Could someone please tell us what check box we have failed to check?
Don

--
Don Butterworth
Collection Management Librarian /
Faculty Associate
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

[Morgan, Michele]

Hi Don,

In addition to the Copy Location Joan mentioned, another field that can
affect holdability is the Copy Status field.

In the Alternate View in Item Status, if you hover over the Copy Location
and Status fields with the mouse pointer, you will see a pop-up that shows
how the holdability flags are set for those fields.

Hope this helps,
Michele

--
Michele M. Morgan, Technical Assistant
North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts
mmor...@noblenet.org


On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Joan Kranich  wrote:

> Hi Don,
>
>
>
> Is the Copy Location of this item Holdable?
>
>
>
> Joan
>
>
>
> Joan Kranich
>
> Member Services Supervisor
>
> C/W MARS, Inc.
>
> 508-755-3323, ext. 321 or ext. 1
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Donald
> Butterworth
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:17 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> In the "Holdable?" category in the Copy Editor, the value is "Yes", but in
> the "Holdable" column on the Record Summary screen, the value is "Not
> holdable".
>
> Could someone please tell us what check box we have failed to check?
>
> Don
>
>
> --
>
> Don Butterworth
> Collection Management Librarian /
> Faculty Associate
> B.L. Fisher Library
> Asbury Theological Seminary
> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
> (859) 858-2227
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

[Elaine Hardy]

Don,

Remember that a no anywhere overrides a yes anywhere. If as Joan asks, your
copy/shelving location is set to not holdable, it will override the value
in the copy editor. And vice versa.

Elaine



J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
Atlanta, GA 30045

404.235.7128 Office
404.548.4241 Cell
404.235.7201 FAX

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Joan Kranich  wrote:

> Hi Don,
>
>
>
> Is the Copy Location of this item Holdable?
>
>
>
> Joan
>
>
>
> Joan Kranich
>
> Member Services Supervisor
>
> C/W MARS, Inc.
>
> 508-755-3323, ext. 321 or ext. 1
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Donald
> Butterworth
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:17 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> In the "Holdable?" category in the Copy Editor, the value is "Yes", but in
> the "Holdable" column on the Record Summary screen, the value is "Not
> holdable".
>
> Could someone please tell us what check box we have failed to check?
>
> Don
>
>
> --
>
> Don Butterworth
> Collection Management Librarian /
> Faculty Associate
> B.L. Fisher Library
> Asbury Theological Seminary
> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
> (859) 858-2227
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

[Joan Kranich]

Thanks Michele.  I never noticed the display of the holdability flags in Item 
Status.

Joan

Joan Kranich
Member Services Supervisor
C/W MARS, Inc.
508-755-3323, ext. 321 or ext. 1

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Morgan, Michele
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:02 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

Hi Don,
In addition to the Copy Location Joan mentioned, another field that can affect 
holdability is the Copy Status field.

In the Alternate View in Item Status, if you hover over the Copy Location and 
Status fields with the mouse pointer, you will see a pop-up that shows how the 
holdability flags are set for those fields.
Hope this helps,
Michele

--
Michele M. Morgan, Technical Assistant
North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts
mmor...@noblenet.org


On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Joan Kranich 
mailto:jkran...@cwmars.org>> wrote:
Hi Don,

Is the Copy Location of this item Holdable?

Joan

Joan Kranich
Member Services Supervisor
C/W MARS, Inc.
508-755-3323, ext. 321 or ext. 1

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org]
 On Behalf Of Donald Butterworth
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:17 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

Hi All,
In the "Holdable?" category in the Copy Editor, the value is "Yes", but in the 
"Holdable" column on the Record Summary screen, the value is "Not holdable".
Could someone please tell us what check box we have failed to check?
Don

--
Don Butterworth
Collection Management Librarian /
Faculty Associate
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

[Cerninakova Eva]

Holdability of the copy can be affected also by  "Reference" flag. When
"Referece is set to "Yes", the copy is not holdable and can´t circulate
even if both are set to "yes".

Eva






---
Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková
cer...@jabok.cz
Tel. +420 211 222 409

Knihovna Jabok
http:/knihovna.jabok.cuni.cz 
Tel.  +420 211 222 410

Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická
Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2


2016-08-02 16:02 GMT+02:00 Elaine Hardy :

> Don,
>
> Remember that a no anywhere overrides a yes anywhere. If as Joan asks,
> your copy/shelving location is set to not holdable, it will override the
> value in the copy editor. And vice versa.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> Atlanta, GA 30045
>
> 404.235.7128 Office
> 404.548.4241 Cell
> 404.235.7201 FAX
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Joan Kranich  wrote:
>
>> Hi Don,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the Copy Location of this item Holdable?
>>
>>
>>
>> Joan
>>
>>
>>
>> Joan Kranich
>>
>> Member Services Supervisor
>>
>> C/W MARS, Inc.
>>
>> 508-755-3323, ext. 321 or ext. 1
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
>> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Donald
>> Butterworth
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:17 AM
>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
>> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
>> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> In the "Holdable?" category in the Copy Editor, the value is "Yes", but
>> in the "Holdable" column on the Record Summary screen, the value is "Not
>> holdable".
>>
>> Could someone please tell us what check box we have failed to check?
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Don Butterworth
>> Collection Management Librarian /
>> Faculty Associate
>> B.L. Fisher Library
>> Asbury Theological Seminary
>> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
>> (859) 858-2227
>>
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

[Jason Stephenson]

On 08/02/2016 10:30 AM, Cerninakova Eva wrote:
> Holdability of the copy can be affected also by  "Reference" flag. When
> "Referece is set to "Yes", the copy is not holdable and can´t circulate 
> even if both are set to "yes".

The above is not strictly true, though that is typically the case.

The Reference flag does not prevent holds or circulation outright and
the staff client will not indicate a copy is not holdable just because
ref is true. At least, it shouldn't.

Most sites do set their hold and circ matrix parameters so that
reference items do no fill holds and do not circulate. I know that at
MVLC, they generally do not permit holds but some libraries allow them
to circulate overnight or even up to a week.

Jason


> 
> Eva
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková
> cer...@jabok.cz 
> Tel. +420 211 222 409
> 
> Knihovna Jabok
> http:/knihovna.jabok.cuni.cz 
> Tel.  +420 211 222 410
> 
> Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická
> Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2
> 
> 
> 2016-08-02 16:02 GMT+02:00 Elaine Hardy  >:
> 
> Don,
> 
> Remember that a no anywhere overrides a yes anywhere. If as Joan
> asks, your copy/shelving location is set to not holdable, it will
> override the value in the copy editor. And vice versa.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> 
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> Atlanta, GA 30045
> 
> 404.235.7128  Office
> 404.548.4241  Cell
> 404.235.7201  FAX
> 
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Joan Kranich  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
> __ __
> 
> Is the Copy Location of this item Holdable?
> 
> __ __
> 
> Joan
> 
> __ __
> 
> Joan Kranich
> 
> Member Services Supervisor
> 
> C/W MARS, Inc.
> 
> 508-755-3323, ext. 321  or
> ext. 1
> 
> __ __
> 
> *From:*Open-ils-general
> [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
> ] *On
> Behalf Of *Donald Butterworth
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:17 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
>  >
> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings
> 
> __ __
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> In the "Holdable?" category in the Copy Editor, the value is
> "Yes", but in the "Holdable" column on the Record Summary
> screen, the value is "Not holdable". 
> 
> Could someone please tell us what check box we have failed to
> check?
> 
> Don  
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Don Butterworth
> Collection Management Librarian /
> Faculty Associate
> B.L. Fisher Library
> Asbury Theological Seminary
> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
> 
> (859) 858-2227 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings

[Donald Butterworth]

Thanks much everyone. That should get me started. -- Don

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Jason Stephenson  wrote:

> On 08/02/2016 10:30 AM, Cerninakova Eva wrote:
> > Holdability of the copy can be affected also by  "Reference" flag. When
> > "Referece is set to "Yes", the copy is not holdable and can´t circulate
> > even if both are set to "yes".
>
> The above is not strictly true, though that is typically the case.
>
> The Reference flag does not prevent holds or circulation outright and
> the staff client will not indicate a copy is not holdable just because
> ref is true. At least, it shouldn't.
>
> Most sites do set their hold and circ matrix parameters so that
> reference items do no fill holds and do not circulate. I know that at
> MVLC, they generally do not permit holds but some libraries allow them
> to circulate overnight or even up to a week.
>
> Jason
>
>
> >
> > Eva
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková
> > cer...@jabok.cz 
> > Tel. +420 211 222 409
> >
> > Knihovna Jabok
> > http:/knihovna.jabok.cuni.cz 
> > Tel.  +420 211 222 410
> >
> > Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická
> > Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2
> >
> >
> > 2016-08-02 16:02 GMT+02:00 Elaine Hardy  > >:
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > Remember that a no anywhere overrides a yes anywhere. If as Joan
> > asks, your copy/shelving location is set to not holdable, it will
> > override the value in the copy editor. And vice versa.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> >
> > J. Elaine Hardy
> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> > Atlanta, GA 30045
> >
> > 404.235.7128  Office
> > 404.548.4241  Cell
> > 404.235.7201  FAX
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Joan Kranich  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Don,
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Is the Copy Location of this item Holdable?
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Joan
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Joan Kranich
> >
> > Member Services Supervisor
> >
> > C/W MARS, Inc.
> >
> > 508-755-3323, ext. 321  or
> > ext. 1
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *From:*Open-ils-general
> > [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
> > ] *On
> > Behalf Of *Donald Butterworth
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:17 AM
> > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
> >  > >
> > *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Hold settings
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > In the "Holdable?" category in the Copy Editor, the value is
> > "Yes", but in the "Holdable" column on the Record Summary
> > screen, the value is "Not holdable". 
> >
> > Could someone please tell us what check box we have failed to
> > check?
> >
> > Don
> > 
> >
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Don Butterworth
> > Collection Management Librarian /
> > Faculty Associate
> > B.L. Fisher Library
> > Asbury Theological Seminary
> > don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
> > 
> > (859) 858-2227 
> >
> >
> >
>



-- 
Don Butterworth
Collection Management Librarian /
Faculty Associate
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227