How do you represent Coronary Angiography and PCI?
Hi everyone, I reckon openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.imaging_exam.v1 archetype has been used to capture results of invasive angiography (on CKM Heart Failure Clinic First Visit Summary template) as well as non-invasive imaging tests. We are modelling for CathLab registry data here in NZ and would like to get your views on how best to represent both angiography and PCI? To me angiography is an imaging study and PCI is a procedure but they happen simultaneously - I guess I'm asking how best to represent interventional radiology studies? Imaging + procedure together? Has anyone created new/specialised archetypes for these? Many thanks in advance. Cheers, -koray Koray Atalag, MD, PhD, FACHI Senior Research Fellow in Biomedical Informatics Auckland Bioengineering Institutehttp://www.abi.auckland.ac.nz/ and National Institute for Health Innovationhttp://www.nihi.auckland.ac.nz/ The University of Auckland Private Bag 92019 Auckland 1142, New Zealand Tel: +64 9 373 7599 ext: 87199 (NIHI) Mob: +64 21 02412096 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/koray-atalag/0/5aa/b32 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20141215/1c26ca35/attachment.html
How do you represent Coronary Angiography and PCI?
Hi Koray, The relationship between angiography and PCI seems similar to the one colonoscopy and polypectomy. How have you figured it out in MST model? Shinji KOBAYASHI 2014-12-15 13:20 GMT+09:00 Koray Atalag k.atalag at auckland.ac.nz: Hi everyone, I reckon openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.imaging_exam.v1 archetype has been used to capture results of invasive angiography (on CKM Heart Failure Clinic First Visit Summary template) as well as non-invasive imaging tests. We are modelling for CathLab registry data here in NZ and would like to get your views on how best to represent both angiography and PCI? To me angiography is an imaging study and PCI is a procedure but they happen simultaneously ? I guess I?m asking how best to represent interventional radiology studies? Imaging + procedure together? Has anyone created new/specialised archetypes for these? Many thanks in advance. Cheers, -koray Koray Atalag, MD, PhD, FACHI Senior Research Fellow in Biomedical Informatics Auckland Bioengineering Institute and National Institute for Health Innovation The University of Auckland Private Bag 92019 Auckland 1142, New Zealand Tel: +64 9 373 7599 ext: 87199 (NIHI) Mob: +64 21 02412096 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/koray-atalag/0/5aa/b32 ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org
How do you represent Coronary Angiography and PCI?
Good point Shinji - I think it is a very similar clinical situation... Unfortunately the way I modelled MST was optimised for GUI generation so I didn't reuse clinical ENTRY type archetypes but created OBSERVATION type for reporting of findings and ACTION type for capturing details of endoscopic procedures. Bulk of content was represented with structural archetypes anyways. I wouldn't have modelled it this way now. The best option seems to reuse imaging_exam and procedure archetypes separately. The question then is has anyone come up with specialised archetypes for angiography and PCI who might want to share?? Thanks for your careful point. Cheers, -koray -Original Message- From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Shinji KOBAYASHI Sent: Monday, 15 December 2014 7:08 p.m. To: For openEHR clinical discussions Cc: Jane Farris Subject: Re: How do you represent Coronary Angiography and PCI? Hi Koray, The relationship between angiography and PCI seems similar to the one colonoscopy and polypectomy. How have you figured it out in MST model? Shinji KOBAYASHI 2014-12-15 13:20 GMT+09:00 Koray Atalag k.atalag at auckland.ac.nz: Hi everyone, I reckon openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.imaging_exam.v1 archetype has been used to capture results of invasive angiography (on CKM Heart Failure Clinic First Visit Summary template) as well as non-invasive imaging tests. We are modelling for CathLab registry data here in NZ and would like to get your views on how best to represent both angiography and PCI? To me angiography is an imaging study and PCI is a procedure but they happen simultaneously ? I guess I?m asking how best to represent interventional radiology studies? Imaging + procedure together? Has anyone created new/specialised archetypes for these? Many thanks in advance. Cheers, -koray Koray Atalag, MD, PhD, FACHI Senior Research Fellow in Biomedical Informatics Auckland Bioengineering Institute and National Institute for Health Innovation The University of Auckland Private Bag 92019 Auckland 1142, New Zealand Tel: +64 9 373 7599 ext: 87199 (NIHI) Mob: +64 21 02412096 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/koray-atalag/0/5aa/b32 ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.opene hr.org ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 10877 (20141215) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 10877 (20141215) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
How do you represent Coronary Angiography and PCI?
Hi Koray, I agree with using imaging_report for the angio and procedure to capture the PCTI. There are slots in both archetypes to carry specific structures for particular examinations/ procedures but there is not much to draw on in terms of standardised content. This site http://www.radreport.org/ has some attempts to standardise radiology reporting but there is nothing there for angio. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office +44 (0)1536 414 994 fax +44 (0)1536 516317 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK Director openEHR Foundation www.openehr.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org On 15 December 2014 at 06:08, Shinji KOBAYASHI skoba at moss.gr.jp wrote: Hi Koray, The relationship between angiography and PCI seems similar to the one colonoscopy and polypectomy. How have you figured it out in MST model? Shinji KOBAYASHI 2014-12-15 13:20 GMT+09:00 Koray Atalag k.atalag at auckland.ac.nz: Hi everyone, I reckon openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.imaging_exam.v1 archetype has been used to capture results of invasive angiography (on CKM Heart Failure Clinic First Visit Summary template) as well as non-invasive imaging tests. We are modelling for CathLab registry data here in NZ and would like to get your views on how best to represent both angiography and PCI? To me angiography is an imaging study and PCI is a procedure but they happen simultaneously ? I guess I?m asking how best to represent interventional radiology studies? Imaging + procedure together? Has anyone created new/specialised archetypes for these? Many thanks in advance. Cheers, -koray Koray Atalag, MD, PhD, FACHI Senior Research Fellow in Biomedical Informatics Auckland Bioengineering Institute and National Institute for Health Innovation The University of Auckland Private Bag 92019 Auckland 1142, New Zealand Tel: +64 9 373 7599 ext: 87199 (NIHI) Mob: +64 21 02412096 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/koray-atalag/0/5aa/b32 ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org
