How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-06 Thread Peter Gummer
pablo pazos wrote:

 I have proposed here *** that we can start attaching files to the wiki and 
 linking them under our names, each one of us can describe each artifact, what 
 issues it has, what tweaks and fixes have made over those artifacts, etc.

Hi Pablo,

I get the impression that you aren't aware that this test repository already 
exists:

http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge2/TRUNK/archetypes/ADL_1.5_test

Have you considered building on this, rather than starting a whole new 
repository?

- Peter




How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-06 Thread pablo pazos

Hi Peter, thanks for the pointer.
I think this is only ADL related and only 1.5. My idea is to include ADL1.4 and 
RM instances in XML and JSON, RM  AOM XSD, also term sets.Maybe we can took 
some samples from there, but I believe this new repo has a wider scope. What do 
you think?

-- 
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Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez
Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos

 Subject: Re: How about creating an openEHR test base?
 From: peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com
 Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:39:25 +1000
 To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
 
 pablo pazos wrote:
 
  I have proposed here *** that we can start attaching files to the wiki and 
  linking them under our names, each one of us can describe each artifact, 
  what issues it has, what tweaks and fixes have made over those artifacts, 
  etc.
 
 Hi Pablo,
 
 I get the impression that you aren't aware that this test repository already 
 exists:
 
   http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge2/TRUNK/archetypes/ADL_1.5_test
 
 Have you considered building on this, rather than starting a whole new 
 repository?
 
 - Peter
 
 
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How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-06 Thread pablo pazos

Hi Peter,
That makes sense, but I think we are on a previous stage than deciding the 
physical location of the files.Now we are trying to see what artifacts were 
developed individualy, what problems we have with our implementations, trying 
to improve and harmonize all that, etc. then we'll look for a location for all 
that.
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/dev/Development+test+base
Artifact governanceJust to start with a clear view of what we have and in which 
state, each published artifact will be under the collaborator's name, because 
each one of us might have different versions (maybe structurally different, 
with different tweaks and fixes) of those artifacts. Then we will try to 
converge on a common version for each artifact type.Please attach files to this 
page and link them in the sections below. Please add a small description to 
each file, like what it represents and if you have tweaked the format or 
fixed some problem with the format, please comment about that too.
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Kind regards,
Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez
Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos

 Subject: Re: How about creating an openEHR test base?
 From: peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com
 Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 23:43:06 +1000
 To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
 
 Hi Pablo,
 
 It makes more sense to me to add all of that to the existing repository 
 rather than fragmenting the effort.
 
 - Peter
 
 
 On 06/05/2012, at 22:28, pablo pazos wrote:
 
  Hi Peter, thanks for the pointer.
  
  I think this is only ADL related and only 1.5. My idea is to include ADL1.4 
  and RM instances in XML and JSON, RM  AOM XSD, also term sets.
  Maybe we can took some samples from there, but I believe this new repo has 
  a wider scope. What do you think?
  
  -- 
  Kind regards,
  Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
  LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez
  Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/
  Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos
  
   Subject: Re: How about creating an openEHR test base?
   From: peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com
   Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:39:25 +1000
   To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
   
   pablo pazos wrote:
   
I have proposed here *** that we can start attaching files to the wiki 
and linking them under our names, each one of us can describe each 
artifact, what issues it has, what tweaks and fixes have made over 
those artifacts, etc.
   
   Hi Pablo,
   
   I get the impression that you aren't aware that this test repository 
   already exists:
   
   http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge2/TRUNK/archetypes/ADL_1.5_test
   
   Have you considered building on this, rather than starting a whole new 
   repository?
   
   - Peter
 
 
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How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-06 Thread Diego Boscá
I would say the scope of that repository is different, as that is part
of the test for current evolving 1.5 syntax and does not include
'real' archetypes

2012/5/6 Peter Gummer peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com:
 Hi Pablo,

 It makes more sense to me to add all of that to the existing repository 
 rather than fragmenting the effort.

 - Peter


 On 06/05/2012, at 22:28, pablo pazos wrote:

 Hi Peter, thanks for the pointer.

 I think this is only ADL related and only 1.5. My idea is to include ADL1.4 
 and RM instances in XML and JSON, RM  AOM XSD, also term sets.
 Maybe we can took some samples from there, but I believe this new repo has a 
 wider scope. What do you think?

 --
 Kind regards,
 Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
 LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez
 Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos

  Subject: Re: How about creating an openEHR test base?
  From: peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com
  Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:39:25 +1000
  To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
 
  pablo pazos wrote:
 
   I have proposed here *** that we can start attaching files to the wiki 
   and linking them under our names, each one of us can describe each 
   artifact, what issues it has, what tweaks and fixes have made over those 
   artifacts, etc.
 
  Hi Pablo,
 
  I get the impression that you aren't aware that this test repository 
  already exists:
 
  http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge2/TRUNK/archetypes/ADL_1.5_test
 
  Have you considered building on this, rather than starting a whole new 
  repository?
 
  - Peter


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How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-06 Thread pablo pazos

Hi Diego  Peter,
What Diego said about evolving tests for ADL1.5 is true, we don't want to test 
the tools or the specs, we want to test our implementations (EHRs, services, 
repositories, etc).
I agree this overlaps in some way with the CKM content (archetypes and 
templates), but our focus is on flat archetypes and operative templates, things 
that will be used by systems, not on source ADL archetypes with slots, abstract 
types and other things that makes implementation a pain in the 4$$... you know 
waht I mean.
I agree what Diego said in the last message: we want RM instances (XML) in the 
repo, which will be valid against XSDs (that we need to test and fix, XSDs will 
be included in the repo too). JSON instances will be welcome too :D

To give more context, this is taken from a private message to Erik:
What I have in mind is to create something like a unit test for openEHR 
applications and services, with archetypes, rm instances and term sets. E.g. 
having a test set with some archetypes, a template, some term sets and a couple 
of instances in xml and json formats, and create some small software that can 
handle those test sets, validating instances to schemas, validating structures 
to archetypes, etc. and maybe geting data from the instances and doing 
something with it,  

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Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
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Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos

 From: yampeku at gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 00:23:44 +0200
 Subject: Re: How about creating an openEHR test base?
 To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
 
 Pablo also mentioned 'RM instances in a variety of formats', which are
 not 'artefacts'.
 
 2012/5/7 Peter Gummer peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com:
  Diego Bosc? wrote:
 
  I would say the scope of that repository is different, as that is part
  of the test for current evolving 1.5 syntax and does not include
  'real' archetypes
 
  My understanding was that Pablo was not proposing real archetypes either. 
  In his original post, Pablo proposed a test base with sample artifacts.
 
  How would this be different from the purpose of the existing 
  http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge2 repository? The only difference that 
  I can see is that Pablo has proposed adding a greater variety of artefacts 
  (OPTs, etc.), so it seems natural to add them to the existing repository.
 
  - Peter
  
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