Re: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.

[Grahame Grieve]

>
> Over the years I’ve attended so many Ed & Chuck sessions where they have
> provided informative updates on HL7 activities.
>

ok.


> Perhaps you missed my suggestion for a “Panel exploring how openEHR, FHIR
> & SNOMED work together – a cross SDO panel”?
>

I did miss that, yes.

> Why don’t you volunteer to participate?
>

well, I might. though we'd need some actual content that we don't presently
have. But I don't know whether I'll be funded for that meeting. I'll
discuss at the next HL7 meeting.

Grahame
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RE: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.

[Heather Leslie]

Hi Grahame,

Over the years I’ve attended so many Ed & Chuck sessions where they have 
provided informative updates on HL7 activities. But historically HL7 is the 
only approach that people get to hear. At this conference we have an 
opportunity to do the same, about updates from this community, just another 
view.


I’ve only ever tried to encourage collaboration between HL7 & openEHR. I’m 
tired of insinuations to the contrary.



Perhaps you missed my suggestion for a “Panel exploring how openEHR, FHIR & 
SNOMED work together – a cross SDO panel”?

Why don’t you volunteer to participate?

Regards

Heather


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It will likely be a useful counter to the usual HL7 panels that run each 
conference.

out of interest, what are those?

do you want to continue to act 'counter' to HL7, or is there a different future?

Grahame

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Re: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.

[Grahame Grieve]

>
> It will likely be a useful counter to the usual HL7 panels that run each
> conference.
>

out of interest, what are those?

do you want to continue to act 'counter' to HL7, or is there a different
future?

Grahame
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RE: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.

[Heather Leslie]

Great to hear about all of this activity, Xudong! Thanks for this.

Are others interested in coordinating or collaborating on panels/workshops? 
Other activities? I’d love to see the broadest community involved, not just the 
regulars… All ideas welcome.

Cheers

Heather

From: openEHR-technical  On Behalf 
Of Xudong Lu
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2018 7:23 PM
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Cc: For openEHR technical discussions ; 
For openEHR clinical discussions 
Subject: Re: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.

Hi Heather，

Thanks for sharing your plans for Medinfo 2019. They are great!

I have talked about Medinfo 2019 with the people in Chinese openEHR
communitiy. And listed some of my thoughts.

1. Some of works done in China are perfectly fit with 3 panel, I think
it's good to invite the corresponding person to join in these panels.
   a. Clinical modelling panel – the oral medicine modeling working
group has been initiated this year in China, I think they can share
the progress and the initial results in the panel.
   b. Technical/developers panel (workshop) - One of my colleagues
has been worked on extending GDL with expression language to support
CDSS, I think he can share his research in the panel also.
   c.  Implementers panel - Chinese Military EHR Project has switched
its infrastructure to openEHR since last year, the project is led by
Chinese Academy of Military Sciences, it's the largest project based
on openEHR in China so far. I think it will be good to invite the
researcher in the project to share the experience of the this project
to the international community.

2. Koray and I are starting to collaborate on interconnecting two
openEHR-based ACS registries from New Zealand and China, and
conducting further data analytics on these registries. I'm sure we can
have some progress to share in the time of Medinfo 2019

3. Possible papers from my lab:
   - OCQL: a CQL-like language to represent clinical quality
indicators based on openEHR to facilitate the quality measurement
   - Using GDL to express rules for clinical data quality assessment

Hope these information can be useful.

Best Regards
Xudong

在 2018年9月18日，15:21，Heather Leslie 
mailto:heather.les...@atomicainformatics.com>>
 写道：

Hi everyone,



I've just been talking with Silje about our plans for Medinfo from the clinical 
modelling program.



We'd like to share our current thinking and ideas for some broader openEHR 
engagement.



  1.  3 Panels:

 *   Clinical modelling panel – focus on community engagement, modelling 
activity and patterns
 *   Technical/developers panel – focus on the technical and software 
aspects of openEHR, AQL, GDL perhaps
 *   Implementers panel – focus on the platform and experience from 
real-life implementations

There’s almost a tradition now that we’ve held a Clinical modelling and 
Technical workshop at each Medinfo, but Medinfo’s working definition of a 
workshop is that the presenters and the audience are meant to be equals and 
there is a lot of audience participation. While we aspire to this, in reality 
we really have experts presenting on their latest ideas/work and the audience 
has variable opportunities to ask questions, which more fits with Medinfo’s 
definition of a panel. So we are suggesting that we could run a suite of 
complementary panels covering these 3 areas of openEHR activity.
@Shinji – I know you have already suggested the developer’s workshop – what do 
you think of this as an alternative?



  1.  Panel exploring how openEHR, FHIR & SNOMED work together – a cross SDO 
panel!
  2.  Clinical modelling tutorial – teaching participants how easy it is to 
learn to build a template in half a day
  3.  Possible papers

 *   Medication family of archetypes – Ian, Hildi & Silje
 *   Physical exam patterns – myself



What do you think about these options?



Who else has ideas or proposals?



@Shinji has already set up a wiki page to help us coordinate our efforts - 
https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/resources/pages/320634886/MEDINFO2019



Cheers



Heather





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Subject: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.



Dear openEHR colleagues,



In the next year, MEDINFO 2019 will be in Lyon, France, from 26th to 30th 
August, 2019.

The application for paper/poster/workshop/tutorial deadline is Nov 12.

This is important, ONLY less than TWO MONTH left for the deadline.

I already launched wiki page for MEDINFO 2019.

https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/resources/pages/320634886/MEDINFO2019

If you have some plan for proposal related with openEHR, please give us 
comments on the wiki or mail.

I will propose the openEHR 

formal openEHR guidelines, GDL, expressions, Task Planning: who will author them?

[Thomas Beale]

I've put up a wiki page with a draft of what a real world guideline 
 
(for choosing breast cancer therapy, based on various input variables) 
might look like in the emerging openEHR Expression language 
.


The example on the page shows the guideline in two forms: the first is a 
more natural-language style syntax, and the second is something close to 
TypeScript, a web programming language.


We can make the Expression Language work in either style, very easily. 
The questions are:


 * what kind of professional will create these kinds of guidelines, and
   also rules inside archetypes
   
?
 * what style of syntax is better to use?

It is early days for guideline and rule authoring, but it will certainly 
come. So it would be helpful to get some ideas from the community on 
this. You could reply here, or comment on the wiki page linked above.


thanks

- thomas beale


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Re: Generic modeling and issues for querying

[GF]

Because archetypes and templates allow to use one or more instantiations 
depending on constraints, querying needs to be done on instantiations informed 
by the Template.


Gerard   Freriks
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> On 19 Sep 2018, at 03:13, Pablo Pazos  wrote:
> 
> @Thomas I realized we have a similar issue with multiple occurrences of 
> structured items.
> 
> For instance, an OPT:
> 
> ...
> CLUSTER 0..* at1234
> - ELEMENT at1235
> - ELEMENT at1236
> 
> Could have an instance:
> 
> ...
> CLUSTER at1234
> - ELEMENT at1235
> - ELEMENT at1236
> CLUSTER at1234
> - ELEMENT at1235
> - ELEMENT at1236
> 
> Then querying for "SELECT  WHERE ../path_to_at1235/value > X AND 
> .../path_to_1236/value = Y" will return data even if both ELEMENTs referenced 
> by the paths are contained in different CLUSTER instances.
> 
> An AQL exercise would be how to get the CLUSTER which contains ELEMENTs that 
> comply with conditions on more than one ELEMENT inside them and there are 
> many occurrences of the same CLUSTER, so CLUSTER and children will have the 
> same paths.
> 
> Not sure how to express that considering that depends on instances not on the 
> model.
> 
> Maybe is something that should be handled by the CONTAINS operator? I believe 
> it was Ian that said the CONTAINS should be evaluated against instances, not 
> against the template. If that is the case, I think that will also solve the 
> issue explained on my first message.
> 
> Any ideas?



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