Hi Pablo
Thank you for your warm support. Don't be at all concerned about how you
express your concerns - they are clearly stated and well-understood. I
once heard it said at a conference that the universal language of
international collaboration has become broken English spoken slowly! My
family is half Polish and I speak very broken Polish, all over the
place. I'm not sure how I'm going to manage with broken Chinese, though!
The current discussion, at all levels, is heart-warming as it confirms,
to me at any rate, that now is exactly the right time to be pushing
forward into new territory, and involving new people with the strategy
and governance of openEHR. I might even now change my maxim about the
three most important challenges faced by openEHR, from implementation,
implementation, implementation (which dominated my perspective and
approach and, admittedly, resulted in rather too limited a focus, in the
bootstrap era of openEHR and then 13606, on important community
governance issues) to implementation, clinical engagement and goverance,
all of which now matter, pretty much on a par with one another, for
effective and sustainable future endeavour in the field.
Best wishes,
David I
On 09/09/2011 16:05, pablo pazos wrote:
Hi David,
I think the current tools are as good as one can imagine for this
moment, what I mentioned was of the tools we need to the future, and
maybe some ideas to add to the whitepaper. (I wanted to be clear in
this point, sometimes my bad english doesn't let me to express my
ideas in a clear way, sorry for that).
What I meant with freeopen tools was ment for the local and regional
CKMs, and with a clear API, we could develope local CKMs that are
interoperable with the global CKM (without changing any of the current
great work).
Thank you David, I'm here to help in any way I can. I'm sure that
openEHR is the way to go and I'm sure that we need to move forward
together. There are a lot of great professionals in this community and
I have learned and grow a lot since the first time I worked with
openEHR in 2006. I regret there aren't more coleagues from south
america participating on this great community, that's why I insist
with the local openEHR communities, to engage this people (and
selfishly to don't feel so lonely :D).
Cheers,
Pablo.
--
Kind regards,
Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:39:05 +0100
From: rmhidxi at live.ucl.ac.uk
To: openehr-clinical at openehr.org
Subject: Re: openEHR Transition: Community Knowledge repository
Hi Pablo - re- your important observation below.
It was a difficult decision to go with a proprietary product to
underpin the openEHR CKM, but at the time there was no apparent open
source tool to provide the first stage functionality required. It is
complex and expensive software to develop and maintain and, through
the good offices of Sam and Ocean, we secured a free license to
support the CKM repository, which we were thereby enabled to make
quickly available for experimental use. Of course, open-source tools
are not cost and resource neutral options, but it is certainly easier
for many to engage along an open source pathway of development. That
said, I believe that going with the proprietary CKM was a sensible
decision at the time (it was and had to be Dipak's and mine, I should
say, and in no way an Ocean decision). It has certainly been fully
vindicated, in my eyes, by the free use that has been made of it,
which we can observe day by day, within both the openEHR community and
several cognate groupings, all over the world, exploring and working
with the archetypes now residing in the public CKM repository that
Ocean has generously created and maintained throughout, for the
openEHR community.
Looking forward, Ian's link with Derek Hoy/Snowcloud and the offer he
has made, is interesting and potentially a very useful new thread in
the tooling agenda for openEHR. I don't think anyone imagines we are
near to an ideal tooling environment to support effective clinical
engagement with archetype/template/terminology development and
support. The field will undoubtedly benefit from concerted and
coordinated efforts to create new and better open source tooling in
this area - a goal that is dear to many clinicians' hearts, I know -
Tony Shannon and Dipak Kalra, to name but two!
Forgive my inquisitiveness, Pablo, but I have just located and read
your impressive CV and you seem exactly the right sort of person to
join with others discussing here, in taking forward an initiative like
that for the openEHR community. Once Sam and the new board (fully
operational from October 1st) has given time for its current
