Re: [OE-core] [BUG] Openssh not closing connections on service stop

2014-12-03 Thread Diego
In data martedì 2 dicembre 2014 16:13:09, Saul Wold ha scritto:
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  Isn't service termination supposed to stop all related connections at the
  same time? Can anybody else reproduce (or not) this issue?
 
 It may actually be designed to work this way, since the daemon spawns a
 process for each login the daemon can be restarted on a headless or
 server type machine and not loose the connection, based on googling, I
 could not find this outright on the Openssh.com site.
 
 It appears that the dropbear sshd also has the behavior.
 
 So I would not call this a bug.
 
 Sau!
 

Hi Saul,

I had a bit of a discussion with bluelightning and peteru in #oe. We came to 
the conclusion that having ssh connections still up after service stop is 
considered to be the correct behaviour.

On the other hand, not closing ssh connections on shutdown is generally 
considered a bug by distros, although it is considered a minor one. This 
generally requires connections being killed before network is brought down, 
which might be complicated with sysvinit. These are the links from other 
distros:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626477
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259183
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31250

Long story short: it would be nice to gracefully close ssh connections on 
shutdown before terminating network connections, but it's a minor issue, and 
probably not worth the effort of fixing.

Bests,
Diego

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Re: [OE-core] [BUG] Openssh not closing connections on service stop

2014-12-02 Thread Saul Wold

On 11/27/2014 09:06 AM, Diego wrote:

Hi all,

I'd like to share with you what I consider a bug.

I've generally noticed in my Linux experience that I get automatically
disconnected from an ssh session if the ssh host gets shutdown or rebooted
with the message:
Connection to x.y.w.z closed by remote host.
Connection to x.y.w.z closed.

Well this is because the machine is actually shut down or halted, 
therefore all processes get killed regardless, this is not necessarily a 
function of stopping the daemon



This doesn't seem to happen on my OSes built on core-image-minimal with
openssh support.

Moreover I noticed that if I stop the ssh service:
# /etc/init.d/sshd stop
my ssh connections don't get dropped, I can continue using ssh session like
nothing happened. I can even see the connection process still up and running:
# ps | grep ssh
  1790 root  4568 S/usr/sbin/sshd
  1848 root  4852 Ssshd: root@pts/0
  1886 root  2896 Sgrep ssh
# /etc/init.d/sshd stop
Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshdstopped /usr/sbin/sshd (pid 1790)
.
# ps | grep ssh
  1848 root  4852 Ssshd: root@pts/0
  1894 root  2892 Sgrep ssh

Isn't service termination supposed to stop all related connections at the same
time? Can anybody else reproduce (or not) this issue?

It may actually be designed to work this way, since the daemon spawns a 
process for each login the daemon can be restarted on a headless or 
server type machine and not loose the connection, based on googling, I 
could not find this outright on the Openssh.com site.


It appears that the dropbear sshd also has the behavior.

So I would not call this a bug.

Sau!


Bests,
Diego


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