Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM, vernon adams wrote:

 HAHAHA! Who iz Bruno Maag?

 He runs a well known type design agency. He’s a loud critic of Free fonts.

Just to feed my curiosity... How does one design free fonts and then
criticize free fonts? Any URLs to share?

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Lemonad's libre Days Font used on new Dutch Euro Coin

2013-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Raphaël Bastide wrote:
 Libre? Really? It seems just to be a freeware.

Days is SIL. It's also extensively used on websites, shop signs, movies etc.

Jovanny once told a story how he was walking with a friend, and while
he was explaining why he makes his fonts free, they passed 2 or 3
shops that used Days in the shop sign.

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Howdy!

2013-10-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
How much do you expect to pay for free software? :)

Alexandre

On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:13 AM,  noo...@aol.com wrote:
 Certainly! When I have some money.

 In a message dated 10/5/2013 6:40:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
 d...@lab6.com writes:

 Cool! I hope you'd consider paying for FontForge instead :)


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Adobe's Source Sans Pro

2012-08-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 11:07:50AM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote:
  Haha damn you that would have been my fault if it was messed up! XD

 BTW, it's the first time I noticed this: is Pango really uncapable of
 seeing Extra Light weights?

 More than that, it renames weights. E.g. in both Inkscape and GIMP, I
 get Heavy instead of Black.

 That would be FontConfig not Pango.

Hmmm, grepping /etc/fonts doesn't return anything related

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Adobe's Source Sans Pro

2012-08-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Okay, I pinged Paul via Twitter about that. Thanks for the hint!

Alexandre

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM, vern adams v...@newtypography.co.uk wrote:
 That's right (i think) the usWeightClass in OS/2 tables must be multiples of
 100. Source Sans Extra Light has a value of 250. The value should be 200, as
 the Light version is already 300.
 -v

 On 3 Aug 2012, at 09:32, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote:

 So I'd say it is a font bug (might be a FontConfig limitation as well, I
 have some vague recollection about some discussion somewhere on whether
 OS/2 weight must be multiples of 100 or not).





-- 
Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [GFD] Adobe's Source Sans Pro

2012-08-02 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
 On 2 August 2012 11:47, vern adams wrote:
 Would be very handy if the source fonts were in ufo too.

 I don't think Adobe uses a UFO based workflow ;p

Are you by any chance referring to a particular lizard that was last
seen running freely in 90s? :)

Speaking of OFL typefaces, Jovanny just announced availability of
Oranienbaum, a new ultracontrast antiqua.

http://jovanny.ru/eng-free-fonts.html

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org



Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Adobe's Source Sans Pro

2012-08-02 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
 http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/08/source-sans-pro.html

Okay, this is becoming extremely puzzling.

According to metadata:

- typefaces were made by Ascender Corporation
- the license is Apache v2.0
- Open Sans is a trademark of Google and may be registered in certain
jurisdictions.
- Digitized data copyright © 2010-2011, Google (not 2012-2012)

The blog posting doesn't mention any of that. What gives?

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Convert brand guidelines to HTML?

2011-07-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Chris Lilley wrote:

 In case you want to open the SVG version, be sure to have the
 following fonts installed: Maven Pro, Muli, PT Sans, PT Serif.

 Are these all open license fonts which could be used as webfonts?

Not sure about Muli, but Maven Pro font is free, and both PTs are
free/open source.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] .Net article on libre fonts

2011-07-25 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Laval Chabon wrote:
 Positively, flowers encourage the ones that loves hot-dog fast-food meals.
 And if you send yourself flowers saying: look at me, I'm receiving flowers
 made by I don't know who. But the meaning of flowers is that I'm beautiful.

 Hmm, well. you should be selling flowers perhaps importated from Equator.

Is that some kind of obscure spam? :)

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Improving Metadata: Could OFLB modify fonts on the server?

2011-05-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 5/14/11, Victor Gaultney wrote:

 many designers, and makes the free font movement look more and more like
 Johnny Depp.

And that means what exactly? :)

Also, if we make free font movement look more like Angelina Jolie,
whatever it would mean, would it help? :)

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Who's Coming? Libre Graphics Meeting 2011 in Montreal

2011-04-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 4/8/11, jon wrote:
 I just wanted to get a head count on who will be coming to LGM this
 year?

-1

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Asian OFLib Domains

2010-10-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/29/10, Christopher Adams wrote:
 This looks legitimate.

If it is legitimate, then why Victor got the mail and not me, owner of
openfontlibrary.org? :)

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Drupal

2010-07-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/1/10, Dave Crossland wrote:
 I evaluated it for my projects and the
 decision was a strict no.

 What do you suggest, Alexandre? :-)

Me? I haven't evaluated Aiki yet, what could I possibly suggest apart
from Give it a good test and see who's the winner? :)

The project needs its own programmer anyway. It was ever so.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


[OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

I'm finally looking inside
http://oflb.open-fonts.org/foo-open-font-sources-2.0.tar.gz that
Nicolas mentioned during his talk at LGM. Is there some kind of
description of the recommended workflow? Like doing everything in
separate UFO files and then combining them in FF, or working on a
FontForge project and then exporting all glyphs to separate files
using some script. Stuff like that. Anyone?

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] workflow hints

2010-06-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 6/15/10, Schrijver wrote:

 Generally, you won’t want to work on the UFO files directly, but you
 interface through an editor which can read and write UFO, like fontforge or
 the proprietary alternative.

I sort of suspected that :-P

 I guess internally fontforge then creates a fontforge project, but that
 doesn’t really matter. The UFO is what you put into versioning, and what
 other tools speak to.

 To get stuff in and out of the UFO fontforge scripting should work really
 well; Dave posted a 4 line script to generate ttf’s; and you could for
 example write a script that imports svg’s.

That would mean fighting away some important tasks to get a grasp on
programming. Not in this life. But I got the idea :)

 We made some documentation on this on the wiki, but that’s offline…
 **poke Dave** (sorry man, I know you work hard!)

 Eric

 ps to programmatically manipulate ufo there is also the robofab python
 library

Yeah, I was intending to have a look at that one day, when I have
nothing to do, that is, when I'm dead and buried six feet underground
:)

In other words, would it be considered polite to just distribute
FontForge source and expect someone contribute a script that exports
it to UFO or whatever, in case that someone really-really needs it?

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] OpenFontLibrary Digest, Vol 54, Issue 1

2010-06-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 6/5/10, fontfree...@aol.com wrote:

 Also. Someone please fire Dave.

*sigh* Make me unsee this.

Look, you are not going any far with this sort of public demands. I
really don't want to bring up the topic, but yet another rant of that
kind, and we'll just have to make decision if we really want see you
in this list. Because I've personally had enough of that.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] OpenFontLibrary Digest, Vol 54, Issue 1

2010-06-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 6/5/10, Ben Laenen wrote:

 once one of your 140 Russians finishes your site?

*cough* One is usually more than enough *cough*

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org


[OpenFontLibrary] greek font society?

2010-05-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

This is purely off-topic, but does anybody have any idea what happened
to Greek FOnt Society?

http://www.greekfontsociety.org/ looks taken over

Alexandre


[OpenFontLibrary] Text Layout Summit 2010 at LGM?

2010-04-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

I'm terribly sorry for crossposting, but that's, as usual, just in case :)

How about annual Text Layout Summit at LGM in late May?

Behdad, will you be able to attend? SIL people, how about you? Maybe
even Victor could come?

Alexandre


[OpenFontLibrary] PT sans dual-licensed now

2010-04-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

http://www.libregraphicsworld.org/news.php?readmore=285

PT Sans by Paratype has a separate version under OFL now.

All thanks presumably go to Dave Crossland? ;-)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] PT sans dual-licensed now

2010-04-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
 Hi Alexandre!

 On 5 April 2010 14:36, Alexandre Prokoudine
 alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.libregraphicsworld.org/news.php?readmore=285
 PT Sans by Paratype has a separate version under OFL now.

 The OFL.txt isn't in the download ZIP.

Yes, it's in the font itself.

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] PT sans dual-licensed now

2010-04-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

 This has the SIL OPEN FONT LICENSE Version 1.0 - 22 November 2005 -
 and the current version is 1.1 - http://scripts.sil.org/OFL#5667e9e4

 I will email Paratype about this.

Um, already acknowledged and to be fixed in few days.

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Phone conversation with Ed Trager

2010-03-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 3/8/10, Dave Crossland wrote:

 Ed thinks about replacing ccHost with a custom webapp.

 Ed suggests just talking about OFLB v2 again for the 4th time at LGM?

 Ed is offering to cut the code for this, so, don't be mean to him. :-)

What's the point of being mean when I can be nasty? :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Commissioned-then-Open Font Model - was: New Ubuntu Fon

2010-03-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 3/6/10, fontfree...@aol.com wrote:

 for MOST authors of software libraries, that is simply false. Programmers
 understand that releasing their software libraries as proprietary will make
 more  money in the long run.

Oh come on, what sort of long run are you talking about? Everybody
knows we are all going to die in 2012 one way or another (the maya
buggers could have been more specific about it when they stopped
calculating calendar back in the olden days, damn them)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Greetings - 1st post

2010-01-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/5/10, Jon Phillips wrote:
 pick up shovel.

Which mean exactly what? :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] PT Sans

2010-01-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Christoph Schäfer wrote:

  Hi Dave,
 
  in other circumstances I'd enjoy a detailed discussion, but a dictum
  stating a font is not legally redistributable simply because the
  creator uses a modified license defies not only common sense, but also
  the spirit of open licensing.

 I think Dave may be interpreting the provision that says a font
 licensed OFL cannot be redistributed under a modified license to mean
 that no one can modify the OFL license.

 If that were the case I wouldn't have raised any objection! :)

In my experience, Vimes, you argue with anything (c) Havelock Vetinari

:)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] OneClickOrgs beta - our environment is now ready

2009-12-09 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:

 To do this I need 5 people willing to be 'core members' who will sit
 on the board of the group, and who will be at the LGM2010 in May next
 year to have a face to face meeting.

 I'm guessing this would be:

 Ben Weiner
 Ed Trager
 Nicolas Spalinger
 Jon Phillips
 Alexandre Prokoudine

Heh, I'd be then what we here in matushka Rossiya call svadebny
general (a kind of traditional military high rank guy at a marriage
to make the marriage ceremony look more solid).

Generally I don't mind as long as you don't make me wear uniform or a
stupid serious face :) Or drink alcohol :)

But... eh, what is the current state of the OFLB v2?

Alexandre


[OpenFontLibrary] oflb is back

2009-09-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

We are back again :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Downtime / What to do about it??

2009-08-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 3:13 AM, fontfree...@aol.com wrote:
 I happen to be feeling a bit frustrated with the  openfontlibrary.org
 downtime.

FYI there is a thing called weekend. This is usually two last days of
a week, namely Saturday and Sunday. This is when people take rest from
previous five days of madness called solving other people's issues.
So when you mail domain service around 8pm on Friday to tell them they
didn't really passed control on the domain name to a new company
chances are that the mail will be read on Monday morning only.
Probably morning.

This is how the world works.

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2

2009-08-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
2009/8/21 Andrey V. Panov wrote:

 No. Xz format is becoming the leading format for compression for Linux
 binary packages. Slackware already switched to it, Red Hat is going to
 do this in its rpm format. You may also install 7zip 9.x to unpack this.

You mean, I need to fetch 7zip for Linux, build it and unpack a file
from console using some wretched CLI arguments? Thanks, no :) File
Roller worked for me all this time :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2

2009-08-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Andrey V.
Panovpa...@canopus.iacp.dvo.ru wrote:
 The second beta version of Heuristica fonts is released. This version adds
 kerning for Cyrillic, adds more Cyrillic and other characters (e.g. Euro).

 Link to download: ftp://ftp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/heuristica/

.tar.xz? What on Earth is that?

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2

2009-08-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:

 No you just have to be a git expert, which is much easier isn't it:
 git clone git://ctrl.tukaani.org/xz.git

 You can grab and build the tarballs from the packages.foo.org pages
 (right-hand menu) or on the upstream website...
 Or motivate maintainers for your preferred environment...

Incidentally, XZ sounds very much like Russian ХЗ acronym which can be
roughly translated as hell knows meaning How do I know? :) I'm
wondering if Andrey realized that :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Open Bodoni

2009-08-11 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:20 AM, minombresbond wrote:
 El Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:29:06 +0400
 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com escribió:

 FYI,

 http://www.libregraphicsworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=3

 Alexandre

 http://www.libregraphicsworld.org/ -   Why didn't you announced
 when the site was launched!? :)

I think by blog is aggregated via both graphicsplanet.org and open
fonts planet :)

In fact I'll do a wider announcement when FAW and web links sections
are settled down :)

Alexandre


[OpenFontLibrary] gwdrawfonttool

2009-06-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
FYI:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/gwdrawfonttool/

Written in Python, using GTK+ and Cairo, this project is comprised of
a canvas capable of drawing East-Asian character glyphs registered at
the GlyphWiki project (http://glyphwiki.org), and so-called drawfonts
which draw them in a specific style.

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] What's the big deal about @font-face anyway?

2009-05-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

 What I don't understand is, why is it a good idea to let website designers
 choose what font *I* read their text with?

Think of paper books :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] What's the big deal about @font-face anyway?

2009-05-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

 This will change hopefully by the end of the year.  Firefox plans to use
 HarfBuzz on all platforms.

Speaking of which... What is the best way to track HarfBuzz progress?

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Should we offer EOT fonts (hosted from out the USA?)

2009-05-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote:

 Despite popular television programmes :) in fact what happens first is
 you generally get a cease-and-desist letter.  There's no point suing
 people who have no money, as taking people to court is expensive.

Well, presumably Microsoft, Bitstream and Monotype is not as evil as MPAA... :)

Alexandre


[OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

Maybe we should have some kind of WhatTheFont client in admin panel to
check uploaded fonts for being actually (c) typefaces?

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Ed Trager wrote:

 But I assume that the problem you are really trying to address is one
 of people copying glyph outlines into a new font that they claim to be
 their own?

Yes

  For that kind of situation, one would, I assume, have to
 try to match glyph outlines against some searchable database of glyph
 outlines ...

Exactly what I say :)

 sounds hard to do ...

But it works

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] OFLB at LGM2009?

2009-04-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
 2009/4/7 Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com:

 I've been putting off my LGM2009 flights/room bookings, and am now at
 the point where I have to say I really doubt I will be able to go.

 I have had a change of fortune and am now going to attend! :)

A fortune in small change, possibly? Great!

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] OFLB at LGM2009?

2009-04-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
 Hi,

 I've been putting off my LGM2009 flights/room bookings, and am now at
 the point where I have to say I really doubt I will be able to go.

 Since I'd like to have the OFLBv2 progress presented there, I wonder
 who is definitely going, and would like to to offer help to someone to
 present OFLB at LGM2009.

I'm still to get a visa, but tickets are bought, and since they are
non-returnable, there is no way back :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Bruce Perens criticized SIL Open Font License

2009-04-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

 I heard a rumour that the Reading MATD portfolio site at
 www.typefacedesign.org has PDFs from which fonts were extracted and
 posted on some Chinese or Russian forum (communists, eh? ;-) The

I can hear you! :)

 rumour was that the rips were of much lower quality than the student's
 real, unpublished, OTFs - incomplete metrics, glyph encodings wrong,
 that kind of thing.

Extracting fonts from PDF and saving in editable form is not rocket
science. You just grab Fontmatrix/SVN :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] OFL problems, IPA License annoyances

2009-04-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

 And as I said, I would prefer to avoid a new version of OFL until
 there is a real world example of the OFLv1.1 being defective; until
 then, the FAQ updates are the best response.

Amen to that? :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] extraction issues

2009-04-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:

 I agree, attempting extraction for that purpose is really abusing the
 author's willingness to put out a PDF specimen for review/critique
 regardless of the chosen licensing.

http://fontmatrix.net/node/43

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Bruce Perens criticized SIL Open Font License

2009-04-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote:

 No, not at all -- it assumes that the type designers and vendors
 don't like people doing it, which _is_ true, by and large.  I'm
 saying, let's not do things which we know will cause anger, bad
 publicity and potentially leave a lasting bad taste.

Well, I hate to tell you, but apparently Pierre is up to implementing
fonts extraction from other file formats like XPS :) He needed it for
a project, so he did it.

Limiting users just because they might do something bad means not
trusting them. Now that's lasting bad taste.

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Font upload process

2009-03-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 3/21/09, Dave Crossland wrote:

 By enforcing this level of professionalism, we naturally encourage a
 similar level of professionalism at the typographic level too.  And of
 course we expect that when fontaine's report shows missing glyphs
 that this will encourage the font designers to go back and fill in the
 missing stuff.

Exactly what we need :)

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Ed Trager wrote:

 If you know the right people (preferably those who control purse
 strings ;-) ) at Wikimedia, please keep plugging OFLB and see if we
 can get some $ from Wikimedia foundation to get OFLB done properly.

I actually know Brianna from WIkimedia --- she participated at
Inkscape Book Sprint in Paris last year. But I'm not really sure that
Wikimedia has any $, not speaking about $$ or $$$, to share.

Alexandre


[OpenFontLibrary] osifont

2009-02-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
http://code.google.com/p/osifont/

In some european countries, CAD projects must have font which conform
to IS0 3O98 specification. Comercial CADs has this font, but free CADs
not. There is no available free font yet, so this project will fix
this. This font will be created completely from the scratch. Font is
created with free tools like FontForge, Inkscape, Gimp.

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Fwd: [CREATE] LGM 2009 update

2009-01-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
2009/1/15 Dave Crossland wrote:
 FYI :)

 How many people from OFLB are planning to attend LGM? I am :-)

Well, I will do my best, but no promises.

Alexandre


Re: [Openfontlibrary] design service

2008-11-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

 I happen to have scans from a 1930s or so Soviet Russia font album.
 Interested? :-)

 If Liam isn't, please publish them on the web and add a note to the
 wiki at 
 http://www.openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Font_Design#I_want_to_revive_a_historic_design

Publish all 200 Mbytes on wiki? :-)

 Also, developing a high-quality typeface can be a lot of work;
 Microsoft spent over a million US dollars on Arial, I've heard.

 Other people report that Adobe's helvetica was digitized by kids of
 Adobe's founders :-)

 LOL

 Got a reference for that? :-)

Not in English ;-) And the more correct version is early Adobe's
Type1 fonts, not just Helvetica.

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] design service

2008-11-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

 Publish all 200 Mbytes on wiki? :-)

 Publish them on the web elsewhere and add a link to the wiki.

OK

 If you need space, mail me offlist.

 Also, developing a high-quality typeface can be a lot of work;
 Microsoft spent over a million US dollars on Arial, I've heard.

 Other people report that Adobe's helvetica was digitized by kids of
 Adobe's founders :-)

 LOL

 Got a reference for that? :-)

 Not in English ;-)

 Я все уши :-)

http://letterhead.ru/Thinges/opyt_03.html (a series of articles on
fonts localization by Yuri Gordon)

На самом деле представление о том, что крупные западные шрифтовые
фирмы все делают с недоступной для нас аккуратностью, далеко от
реальности. В особенности это касается старых шрифтов, к которым
относится Гельветика. Эти шрифты были оцифрованы неизвестно когда,
неизвестно кем и неизвестно каким инструментом. Помню, что Андрей
Скалдин, наш основатель, рассказывал со слов каких-то западных людей,
что первые Постскриптовские шрифты оцифровывали дети основателей Адобе
Системз. Причем по самым разным оригиналам, полученным с разных фирм и
в разных масштабах. Наверняка Гельветика входила в их число. Потом,
правда, ее неоднократно переделывали, но вряд ли меняли эти размеры.

Our impression that western type foundries do everything with
precision we are not likely to ever reach is far from reality. This is
especially true about old fonts like Helvetica. These typefaces were
digitized by god knows who and using god knows which tools. I remember
that Andrey Skaldin, our [Paratype] founder, told us once (and he was
told that by other people) that early Postscript typefaces were
digitized by children of Adobe's founders. Besides, doing this, they
used different specimens taken from different companies and in
different scales. Helvetica was most likely one of them. Later, of
course, it was improved many times, but I very much doubt that
descenders [that vary a lot, which was discussed in a previous
paragraph] were changed.

That's a quote from Vladimir Efimov. In the next paragraph he says the
old digitized fonts mostly keep the look of the first digitization
with all their rounding errors etc.

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Ed Trager wrote:

 The whole reason for copyright law is to provide legal protections to
 authors of creative works, is it not?

It is not. Sure, it's what copyright laws usually pretend to be, but
never actually care to become.

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
 http://www.openfontlibrary.com/

*shrugs shoulders*

Well, the best of luck to them.

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Rob Myers wrote:

 Is the name a problem, project identity-wise?

I do foresee general confusion, but I won't argue over that till I'm
blue in the face. I have better things to do. I just hope that
initiator of the second project is a reasonable person who won't put
spokes into our wheels just because we are driving copyleft-path way
and thus will use these domains only for redirecting to somewhere else
:-)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-02 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM,  Fontfreedom wrote:

 Initially, Openfontlibrary was created as a place for fonts dedicated to the
 Public Domain.

I really don't know what made you jump at this conslusion. When I was
pinging rejon three years ago about creating a OCAL like website for
fonts, I didn't have PD in mind, neither had rejon from what I
remember. This was all about fonts with source code/projects, freely
distributable and modifiable.

When I hear discussions, whether PD or OFL or GPL3 or whatever else is
free enough and how exactly this enough should be defined, my head
starts hurting and my antifreaks system goes to red alert mode.

IMO, OFLB is a place for fonts which anyone can download, use for any
purpose, modify or even sell (keeping in mind what SIL OFL 1.1 says
about it). It shouldn't be a place for just free fonts, because it
simply doesn't make sense competing with *most everybody else* around.

Could we please be happy with PD, OFL and GPL and any other OSI
approved license?

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] FontForge has direct support for DOWNLOADING and uploading!

2008-11-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
 2008/11/1 Ben Weiner:

  perhaps a font where the glyph stems were nude figures

 Your speculation about an unsuitable font is illuminating, George ;-)

 I've seen 2 freeware fonts with naked chick clipart for glyphs :-)

And you never contacted authors to relicense them under OFL? Drat! :-)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] wiki spam

2008-09-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

 I disabled the blacklist that I believe Jon installed because
 blacklists have victims, and have been doing antispam by hand the last
 week while I find the time to set up a captcha that works. I'll try
 again now.

Could you please try ReCaptcha instead? Seems to work fine for
wiki.panotools.org

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] wiki spam

2008-09-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jon Phillips wrote:
 Heya all, we are getting massive wiki spam. Alexandre, didn't you
 install some spam plugins to help?

No, because OSUOSL ignores me and my new ssh key

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] Font submissions

2008-09-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM, John wrote:

 I need clarification on what fonts can be uploaded to the library.  My
 personal collection is rather large and I'm sure that I can contribute but
 need to know what, other than copyrighted (commercial) or restricted
 licencing fonts, are not allowed.

Hi John!

Only Open Font License and Public Domain fonts are allowed to be uploaded.

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] domain name?

2008-08-25 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alexandre, what happened to openfontlibrary.org domain name?

 http://openfontlibrary.org/

 Looks like the DNS info is screwy? What's up? Please update the dns!!!
 Someone must be cybersquatting...

 Can you please fix this asap and lock the domain or transfer to me or
 someone else on the project asap!

I paid on August 14. They also haven't processed two of my other
transactions done same day yet. I'm getting really sick of it.

The domain department is notified, but I might not have answer today
(they are closing at 7pm).

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update

2008-07-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:

 Well, it seems like they listened to recommendations from you and
 Barbara (and probably other reviewers and beta testers in the community):
 http://www.stixfonts.org/user_license.html
 http://www.stixfonts.org/STIXfaq.html

That still doesn't make the fonts available :)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] gbdfed 1.4 released (BDF bitmap font editor)

2008-05-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Mark Leisher wrote:
 I'm new to the list and hope this is an appropriate place to announce this.

 http://www.math.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/Software/gbdfed

 For those of you unfamiliar with gbdfed, it aspires (when I have time)
 to be the fontforge for bitmap fonts.

Just an idea: put a screenshot on a homepage ;-)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] ATypI'08

2008-03-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Jon Phillips wrote:
 Very cool! You are going to go, right?

Right :)

 Is there travel funding?

Most likely not.

(Honestly, my one way ticket from Beijing last year was ca. $450 - not
that much, but surely depends on life priorities :))

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[Openfontlibrary] ATypI'08

2008-03-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

Just to let you know - ATypI'08 (which will be in St. Petersburg,
Russia, this Spetember) registration of presenters is delayed till
April, 14, so you still have time, if you wanted to do a talk :)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] eh... wiki :)

2008-03-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Kess Vargavind wrote:

  Now, isn't this clever, knowing that to be my IP? ;) Could someone please 
 fix?

Thanks fore reporting. Working on it.

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] SIL Encore fonts 3.0 font sources now released under OFL

2008-02-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
2008/2/24 Nicolas Spalinger wrote:

  Hi all,

  SIL recently re-released under the Open Font License a big library of
  glyphs (in PostScript Type1 format) from an older font creation system
  called SIL Encore.

It says Extended Cyrillic character set, but it was brouyght to my
attention :) that ukrainian Ї, ї and russian ё seem to be absent
in Doulos :) Misteriously, Ё (upper case for ё) is present indeed
:)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] fw: [Tipografia] [Gentium] Update #5 - Gentium Basic and Gentium Book Basic available for testing

2007-11-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Nov 16, 2007 12:37 AM, Gustavo Ferreira wrote:

 ps: i wonder why this has not been annouced here?

Or why SIL's announcements mailing list is silent despite of releases
being out :(

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] eh... wiki :)

2007-10-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/15/07, Jon Phillips wrote:
 Alexandre, could you followup with osuosl if this is still not working?

It is working :)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] Proposal for open font-related sessions/workshops at LGM08

2007-09-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/28/07, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:

 ...
 - Future plans

We wanted to make a fonts digitizing session this year, but this
wasn't planned beforehand, so it didn't happen.

I do have a bunch of scanned public domain fonts (printed in early
1930s and given to me by Valek) which cover the whole cyrillic and
ukrainian glyph sets and numerals, but no latin.

If we do organize such session next year, that would be a good start
to actually using our SVN :)

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] Proposal for open font-related sessions/workshops at LGM08

2007-09-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/28/07, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

 We wanted to make a fonts digitizing session this year, but this
 wasn't planned beforehand, so it didn't happen.

 I do have a bunch of scanned public domain fonts (printed in early
 1930s and given to me by Valek) which cover the whole cyrillic and
 ukrainian glyph sets and numerals, but no latin.

 If we do organize such session next year, that would be a good start
 to actually using our SVN :)

Sorry, Open Font Library people: I stripped an important part from
Nicolas's mail, where he suggests various font-related talks and
activities during Libre Graphics Meeting 2008.

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[Openfontlibrary] back

2007-09-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Greetings,

One really hard kick for support service --- and
http://openfontlibrary.org/ is back online finally.

Cheers,
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.org still has no dns entry

2007-09-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 06 Sep 2007 16:23:58 -0700, George Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 openfontlibrary.org still has no dns entry

 Can this be fixed?

I'm bugging registration company right now.

*sigh* Things couldn't be slower in this part of Earth :-/

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] Well... what's the current IP address of the site?

2007-09-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/3/07, Jon Phillips wrote:

  I'll fix this here today, hopefully. Just needed some time and money
  investment :)
 
  Alexandre

 Please do or pass this task on because I'm getting nonstop hate mail
 about and want this fixed yesterday...

Action taken, waiting for results.

Thanks everyone for help offers.

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] URGENT: openfontlibrary.org

2007-08-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/29/07, Dave Crossland wrote:
 On 29/08/2007, Jon Phillips wrote:
  Alexandre! Looks like openfontlibrary.org has been jacked or needs to be
  renewed! Can you do this asap!!!

 Seems jacked:

So, what do we do now? I missed the whole thing being on vacation.

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