Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from http://typeface.neocracy.org/
2008/11/1 Christopher Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +, Dave Crossland wrote: http://typeface.neocracy.org/ I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-) What we need is proper support for @font-face in browsers - not something that may provide an excuse not to implement this support. OFLB can help pressure them to do that by offering @font-face CSS snippets for the fonts it hosts, and otherwise promoting the technology in the text of the site. Do you think _not_ supporting things like that .js will help speed @font-face adoption? ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from http://typeface.neocracy.org/
Dave Crossland wrote: Do you think _not_ supporting things like that .js will help speed @font-face adoption? As much as possible, I'd like to see efforts *focused* on getting widespread support for @font-face. As I see it partial solutions can remove some of the pressure for a more comprehensive solution. I'm also not very keen on any font linking and embedding method that doesn't support the needs of users of non-latin scripts - and in particular the needs of users of complex (e.g. arabic indic) scripts. IMO, in this day and age, any font architecture which doesn't take account of complex scripts is broken. - Chris ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from http://typeface.neocracy.org/
I agree with Chris 100%. When I took a look at the http://typeface.neocracy.org/ project and code, I was surprised at all the work they had put in to it. One problem with this approach is that it is so temporary -- as soon as @font-face becomes more widely supported, their solution will be largely obsolete. The other and bigger problem, as Chris pointed out, is there is no support for complex text layout. So they have all of this nicely written code with complete workarounds for both CANVAS and VML, and perhaps one year from now it will remain largely unused. - Ed On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Christopher Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Crossland wrote: Do you think _not_ supporting things like that .js will help speed @font-face adoption? As much as possible, I'd like to see efforts *focused* on getting widespread support for @font-face. As I see it partial solutions can remove some of the pressure for a more comprehensive solution. I'm also not very keen on any font linking and embedding method that doesn't support the needs of users of non-latin scripts - and in particular the needs of users of complex (e.g. arabic indic) scripts. IMO, in this day and age, any font architecture which doesn't take account of complex scripts is broken. - Chris ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from http://typeface.neocracy.org/
Hi, Ed Trager wrote: bigger problem, as Chris pointed out, is there is no support for complex text layout. So they have all of this nicely written code with complete workarounds for both CANVAS and VML, and perhaps one year from now it will remain largely unused. Can't wait for that day... and yes, there's a double meaning there ;-) Ben ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from http://typeface.neocracy.org/
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +, Dave Crossland wrote: http://typeface.neocracy.org/ I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-) Even better would be to see @font-face supported more widely :D Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from http://typeface.neocracy.org/
2008/10/31 Liam R E Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +, Dave Crossland wrote: http://typeface.neocracy.org/ I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-) Even better would be to see @font-face supported more widely :D It seems pango is blocking @font-face from Firefox 3.1 on GNU/Linux... ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] typography.js from http://typeface.neocracy.org/
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:28:00PM +, Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/10/31 Liam R E Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:33 +, Dave Crossland wrote: http://typeface.neocracy.org/ I think it would be great for OFLB to support this once day, as a 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-) Even better would be to see @font-face supported more widely :D It seems pango is blocking @font-face from Firefox 3.1 on GNU/Linux... And WebKitGtk too :( -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localizer and member of Arabeyes.org team signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
