Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] , The+AShift+Value+and+Advanced+Format+disks+and+ZFS

2012-06-20 Thread Jim Klimov

2012-06-20 12:42, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:

Is the OI151 kernel going to be updated anytime soon?


I don't know - I'm also on the outside of the project core.
I think the idea was to have roughly monthly (or quarterly?)
dev-releases, and some time has passed since early May ;)


Alternatively, if I have an OI151a4 machine running well on a SuperMicro
machine, is there another Illumos distro I could move to w/o too much pain?


Technically yes, you can follow the How To Build Illumos
wiki page and build your own kernel from up-to-date bits,
while the rest would remain the same OI at your discretion
(you can also rebuild that according to a different manual).
You'd need to ensure that your build's number is higher
than the installed packages (described in Wiki) and wait
a while for the compilation to complete. The process is
quite straightforward, I think - I spent some time earlier
revising this wiki page in places where there was something
to elaborate on in greater detail (now seen as child pages).

HTH,
//Jim Klimov

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] intermittent network? (rge device)

2012-06-20 Thread Russ Price

On 06/17/2012 03:15 PM, ramble1035 @dslextreme.com wrote:

I've got a small PC with two rge networking interfaces (one on the
motherboard, one on a separate pcie card).  I'm seeing some
intermittently flakey behavior, where the network just stops talking.
Looking at it seems to indicate things are alive and well, and my
internal LAN switch shows a hardware connection but no activity.

This last episode, I experienced:
a completely unresponsive local net connection on rge0
ifconfig showed correct values (possibly left over from when it *was* working)
ping out got nothing
ping in got request timeouts and no route to host errors
the other network interface worked fine
netstat -r  produced (eventually) a routing table with a correct
default route, but it took a while.



Until recently, my experience with rge was good - at least on
Asus M4A785-M and M5A97 motherboards, where they've never skipped a beat.
However, I ran into the exact same behavior you're seeing on an
M5A88-V EVO that I recently built up. My solution was to disable it
and use an Intel PCIe card.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Idea on mixing OI and SVR4 sparse zones

2012-06-20 Thread Jim Klimov

Hello David et al,

I had a new idea for your project of using OI as a base for
the distro to sustain/update existing Solaris deployments.

In *our* systems management we have relatively little use
for sparse-root zones, but quite a bit more of full-root
ones, and to save on disk space (and minimize human error)
we pre-create a golden dummy zone which remains unused
per se, while its zfs clones are used to initialize the
application zones. I understand that other deployments
may have more use for sparse-root zones.

I believe that fundamental differences between zones of
different packaging would be in their branding and the
scripts which implement this zone-branding (i.e. actions
upon boot/attach/upgrade/etc.) - for example, an SVR4
native zone-attachment or even bootup might involve
detection of packages installed in the global zone
(or some other SVR4 template zone) and migration of zone
info into the local zone's /var/sadm/install/contents,
/var/sadm/pkg/* and similar databases.

I wonder: if we add support for SVR4 zones into OI, maybe
with an option to support sparse-root zones in some manner
like read-only lofi-mounts of *some* /usr /lib etc. images,
why not also support an svr4-golden zone type which would
be a golden-image zone for mounting into sparse zones (and
maybe for cloning into full-root zones - though any source
zone can be cloned). This way updates of an svr4-golden
zone would automatically propagate into svr4-sparse zones
which are based on this golden zone instance, just like
it used to take place for native SVR4 global zones.

The differences now would be:
1) Instead of one global zone, there can be several golden
   zones to template for different tasks; it would also be
   more simple to have a full installation with GUI in GZ
   and a minimized installation in its zones

2) The GZ can be of any type (like IPS or DEB), while SVR4
   packaging can be used to instantiate and bulk-upgrade
   sparse-root zones;

3) Possibly, it might make sense to change an LZ's assigned
   golden zone (where it mounts its binaries from) so as to
   change versions or whole software sets - perhaps this
   could aid in one-by-one migrations into newer software.
   Maybe, even, migrate an SVR4-based zone into an ipkg zone
   with an identical set of software in different packaging.

PS: I think some terminology should be made, because the
way I wrote it above, GZ stands for Global Zones as usual,
but could be mistaken for golden zones. Maybe, define TZ
(template zones) or something like that? ;)

HTH,
//Jim Klimov


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI151a4: ld.so.1: cadaver: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/lib/libreadline.so.5: symbol tgetent: referenced symbol not found

2012-06-20 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
I installed the cadaver WebDav program from SFE, and when running it, I 
get the below error.



cadaver http://www.branneriet.se/
.
Connection to `www.branneriet.se' closed.
ld.so.1: cadaver: fatal: relocation error: file 
/usr/lib/libreadline.so.5: symbol tgetent: referenced symbol not found

Killed


Before I spend a lot of effort finding a cure ( I suppose it's a problem 
in libreadline linking termcap) I thought to ask if there's a known easy 
fix.


An alternative would be to point me at some other way to run a webdav 
client on OI151a4


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] , The+AShift+Value+and+Advanced+Format+disks+and+ZFS

2012-06-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:


Is the OI151 kernel going to be updated anytime soon?

Alternatively, if I have an OI151a4 machine running well on a SuperMicro 
machine, is there another Illumos distro I could move to w/o too much pain?


OpenIndiana build 151a is indeed rather stale and not capable of 
installing on some recent hardware.  Illumos has progressed quite a 
lot since last September.  Illumos has recently made some significant 
leaps (e.g. GCC 4.4 compilation) and perhaps OpenIndiana wants to pick 
up these and make sure that it is all stable before making another 
formal release.


I hope to accept delivery of a SuperMicro machine this week which 
required 151a4 in order to use its network interfaces and support 
audio.


Bob
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI151a4: ld.so.1: cadaver: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/lib/libreadline.so.5: symbol tgetent: referenced symbol not found

2012-06-20 Thread Hans J Albertsson
Thanks. I know it isn't dav enabled.






Skickat från min Android MobilUdo Grabowski (IMK) udo.grabow...@kit.edu 
skrev:On 20/06/2012 14:31, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
 I installed the cadaver WebDav program from SFE, and when running it, I get 
 the
 below error.


 cadaver http://www.branneriet.se/
 .
 Connection to `www.branneriet.se' closed.
 ld.so.1: cadaver: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/lib/libreadline.so.5:
 symbol tgetent: referenced symbol not found
 Killed


 Before I spend a lot of effort finding a cure ( I suppose it's a problem in
 libreadline linking termcap) I thought to ask if there's a known easy fix.

 An alternative
would be to point me at some other way to run a webdav client on
 OI151a4

This workaround helps (and reveals that the server is not WebDAV enabled)
setenv LD_PRELOAD /usr/lib/libcurses.so (for csh/tcsh, or
export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libcurses.so for bash)
cadaver http://www.branneriet.se/ or https://www.branneriet.se/


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox in an IPS repo?

2012-06-20 Thread Jim Klimov

Hello,

  I was asked why the OI repos don't provide VirtualBox?

  My first reply was that this may be because of PUEL license
limitations; however, since release of the 4.x branch, the
basic software and its source code are GPLv2, with only the
Extended Pack being PUEL.

  Hence the question: it there anything (but lack of time
and other resources) forbidding the IPS redistribution of
VirtualBox? Can the original Oracle SVR4 package be repacked
for IPS, or must that be a private rebuild? Finally, which
repo would that best fit into (illumos-userland, SFE, etc.)
if anyone were to do this quest?

Thanks for info,
//Jim Klimov

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI151a4: ld.so.1: cadaver: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/lib/libreadline.so.5: symbol tgetent: referenced symbol not found

2012-06-20 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)

On 20/06/2012 18:51, Gordon Ross wrote:

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK)
udo.grabow...@kit.edu  wrote:

On 20/06/2012 14:31, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:


I installed the cadaver WebDav program from SFE, and when running it, I
get the
below error.


cadaver http://www.branneriet.se/
.
Connection to `www.branneriet.se' closed.
ld.so.1: cadaver: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/lib/libreadline.so.5:
symbol tgetent: referenced symbol not found
Killed


Before I spend a lot of effort finding a cure ( I suppose it's a problem
in
libreadline linking termcap) I thought to ask if there's a known easy fix.

An alternative


Huh.  After I implemented https://www.illumos.org/issues/1168
I thought libreadline got fixed so it would always find either the
tgetent from the calling program, or the one in libtermcap.
Right: here is the second issue, for readline:
https://www.illumos.org/issues/1206

Unfortunately it looks like this never got integrated.
What does this command show you:
   elfdump -d /usr/lib/libreadline.so.5



oi_151a4:

Dynamic Section:  .dynamic
 index  tagvalue
   [0]  NEEDED0x381b  libc.so.1
   [1]  SONAME0x1 libreadline.so.5
   [2]  HASH  0x1c4
   [3]  STRTAB0x4c80
   [4]  STRSZ 0x3a57
   [5]  SYMTAB0x2240
   [6]  SYMENT0x10
   [7]  SUNW_SYMTAB   0x16f0
   [8]  SUNW_SYMSZ0x3590
   [9]  SUNW_SORTENT  0x4
  [10]  SUNW_SYMSORT  0x8c80
  [11]  SUNW_SYMSORTSZ0xb78
  [12]  CHECKSUM  0xc96b
  [13]  VERNEED   0x86d8
  [14]  VERNEEDNUM0x1
  [15]  RELCOUNT  0xfc
  [16]  PLTRELSZ  0xaa0
  [17]  PLTREL0x11
  [18]  JMPREL0xc158
  [19]  REL   0x97f8
  [20]  RELSZ 0x3400
  [21]  RELENT0x8
  [22]  FLAGS 0   0
  [23]  FLAGS_1   0   0
  [24]  SUNW_STRPAD   0x200
  [25]  SUNW_LDMACH   0x3eEM_AMD64
  [26]  PLTGOT0x3c094
   [27-37]  NULL  0


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox in an IPS repo?

2012-06-20 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi,

Jim Klimov píše v st 20. 06. 2012 v 19:22 +0400:
 Hello,
 
I was asked why the OI repos don't provide VirtualBox?
 
My first reply was that this may be because of PUEL license
 limitations; however, since release of the 4.x branch, the
 basic software and its source code are GPLv2, with only the
 Extended Pack being PUEL.
 
Hence the question: it there anything (but lack of time
 and other resources) forbidding the IPS redistribution of
 VirtualBox? Can the original Oracle SVR4 package be repacked
 for IPS, or must that be a private rebuild? Finally, which
 repo would that best fit into (illumos-userland, SFE, etc.)
 if anyone were to do this quest?
 

VBox team was delivering IPS package for some time. But their
requirements for preinstall/postinstall were in collision with IPS team
view. It is hard to judge who was/is right but generally, what is wrong
with this SVR4 package (except autoupdate I would not recommend in
case of VBox anyway)?

As if the original SVR4 package can be repacked - you need to do more
than just publish it as IPS, you have to deal with all work needed
during install process. Also building VBox on Solaris was not simple
task, not sure if it improved.

 Thanks for info,
 //Jim Klimov
 

Best regards,

Milan


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