Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZVOL (et al) /device node access rights

2012-10-16 Thread Andrej Javoršek
I can only answer on the first question:
 Apart from inconveniences discussed above it is stable. In my case I'm
using FC based volumes (COMSTAR), directly as raw LUN's and as zvol's.

Best Regards
Andrej

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Heinrich van Riel 
heinrich.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been looking at changing from file to zvol, not for performance
 reasons.

 A few questions on using ZVOL

 1. Is it as stable as using a file for disk?

2. Is it possible that snapshots sizes could be smaller vs file? (This is
 my main reason, snapshot replication.)

3. Can this be used with KVM? I am thinking about dropping vbx ose once I
 have all amd systems replaced.

 Thanks

 On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Andrej Javoršek dr...@ntf.uni-lj.si
 wrote:

  Hello,
  I'm running VB guests as normal (unprivileged) user and I have impression
  that ownership (I'm using chown on zvol's) is not always lost during
  reboot.
  The other part of my comment was joke on my behalf, since restarts of
 host
  OS are rare and often I forget to check if guests came up properly.
  But I completely agree with you that the behaviour is not favorable.
 
  Regards Andrej
 
  On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
 
   I am not sure I understood your comment?..
  
  
   2012-10-15 11:14, Andrej Javoršek wrote:
  
   Hello,
   I have impression that it is not always necessary to chown raw zvol's.
  
  
   It seems necessary when we need to allow a non-root user to use the
   zvol directly, such as a backing store for his VM's virtual disk.
  
  
It happens occasionally on some zvols (and only when I initiate reboot
   and forget about it)  :)
  
  
   What happens? The need to chown?
  
   Sorry for misunderstandings if any,
   //Jim
  
  
  
  
   Regards Andrej
  
   On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Jim Klimov j...@cos.ru wrote:
  
While updating the Wiki page on virtualization, Edward Ned Harvey
   wrote of, and brought to my attention, this peculiar situation:
  
   A VirtualBox VM can use delegated zvols as dsk or rdsk devices
   on the host, just like it can use delegated raw disks or partitions,
   likely iSCSI volumes and other block devices. According to Edward,
   block devices yield better performance than VDI files for VM disks.
   A VM can be executed by an unprivileged user, and thus the device
   node needs to be RW accessible to that non-root user (whom and why
   to trust - that's the admin's problem, OS should not limit that).
  
   So, the problem detected with ZVOLs (and I expect it can have a
   wider range on other devices) is that the ownership of the device
   node for a zvol is forgotten upon reboot or other pool reimport.
   That is, the node used by a VM should be chown'ed upon every VM
   startup. That's inconvenient, so to say.
  
   I played more with this and found that I can also set ACLs with
   /bin/chmod on device nodes, and that is even remembered across
   reboots, however with /dev/zvol/*dsk/pool/vol being a dynamically
   assigned symlink like /devices/pseudo/zfs@0:4(,raw) there is a
   problem: the symlink and device node is created when I look at
   it (i.e. upon first ls or another access to the /dev/zvol/...
   object), and the device node occupies the first available number.
   The /devices filesystem seems to remember ACL entries (but not
   ownerships) across reboots only in conjunction with its object
   names, so upon each reboot (reimport) of the pool, the same
   device node name can get assigned to different zvols.
  
   This is not only useless in terms of stably providing access
   to certain devices for certain users, but also harmful as after
   a reboot an unexpected user (among those earlier trusted) can
   gain access to incorrect devices (and might even enforce that
   somehow, by being first to access the device at the correct
   moment) and cause DoS or intentional illicit access to other
   users' data.
  
   So here is the picture as is. I am not sure what exactly to ask,
   so I guess it's a call for opinions on how the situation can be
   improved, in terms of remembering correct ownerships and ACLs for
   those devices (not nodes) that the rights were set for, in order
   to both increase usability and security of non-root device access.
  
   In the particular case of ZVOL devices, I guess attributes can
   be added to the ZVOLs that would hold the POSIX and ACL access
   rights and owner:group info (do people agree that is a worthy RFE?).
  
   For non-zfs devices like local disk or iscsi or USB - I am not sure
   if the problem exists the same way (not tested) or how it can be
   addressed if it exists (some config file for devfs?)
  
   Thanks,
   //Jim Klimov
  
  
  
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

Good day.

I want to use usb audio controller:
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 1.10 device 
(usb1852,8005) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 root hub: 
device@2, usb_mid4 at bus address 2

Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]JAVS UHF-nano/S
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] usb_mid4 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2 (usb_mid4) online
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot pcplusmp: [ID 805372 kern.info] pcplusmp: ide 
(ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x1 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 1
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 1.10 interface 
(usbif1852,8005.config1.0) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 
root hub: input@0, hid4 at bus address 2

Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]JAVS UHF-nano/S
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] hid4 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2/input@0
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2/input@0 (hid4) online
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 1.10 interface 
(usbif1852,8005.config1.1) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 
root hub: sound-control@1, usb_ac0 at bus address 2

Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]JAVS UHF-nano/S
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] usb_ac0 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2/sound-control@1
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2/sound-control@1 (usb_ac0) online
Oct 16 07:40:58 thinkpot pcplusmp: [ID 805372 kern.info] pcplusmp: ide 
(ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x1 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 0


$ prtconf -D
...
pci17aa,20aa, instance #2 (driver name: uhci)
device, instance #4 (driver name: usb_mid)
input, instance #4 (driver name: hid)
sound-control, instance #0 (driver name: usb_ac)
...

But I haven't any usable devices for it. Can I use this card, or current 
drivers does not support it?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I am having problems with Inkscape and convert producing PNG's

2012-10-16 Thread Jonathan Adams
Cheers, I know you're doing your best, just checking if I was alone,
or if there was a quick fix.

I wish I had some knowledge of creating IPS packages, but the first
step to producing a package loses me every time ... I have updated
versions of rdesktop/vnc that'd be good to try ... and I was wondering
if it was possible to convert Firefox/Thunderbird to IPS ... but I
never got beyond starting up the local IPS server :)

Jon

On 16 October 2012 05:43, Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz wrote:
 Hi,


*SNIP*

 It is known bug - https://www.illumos.org/issues/2706

 Currently I spend time updating JDS and not in fight with bloody libpng.
 My vision is to build everything in JDS with libpng 1.4, to solve all
 these problems.

 If anybody has time for fixing SFE ImageMagick to build with older
 libpng temporarily then he is welcome to prepare fix and I can push the
 results to the repository :-)

 Best regards,

 Milan

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Laurent Blume

On 16/10/12 05:59, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

Good day.

snip

$ prtconf -D
...
pci17aa,20aa, instance #2 (driver name: uhci)
device, instance #4 (driver name: usb_mid)
input, instance #4 (driver name: hid)
sound-control, instance #0 (driver name: usb_ac)
...

But I haven't any usable devices for it. Can I use this card, or current
drivers does not support it?


You are not getting any /dev/sound/xx devices when you plug it? One 
common problem in Solaris is that the /dev/audio symlinks are rarely 
updated in the way the user expects when audio devices are plugged in/out.


Laurent

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 10/16/2012 01:56 PM, Laurent Blume wrote:

On 16/10/12 05:59, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

Good day.

snip

$ prtconf -D
...
pci17aa,20aa, instance #2 (driver name: uhci)
device, instance #4 (driver name: usb_mid)
input, instance #4 (driver name: hid)
sound-control, instance #0 (driver name: usb_ac)
...

But I haven't any usable devices for it. Can I use this card, or current
drivers does not support it?


You are not getting any /dev/sound/xx devices when you plug it? One
common problem in Solaris is that the /dev/audio symlinks are rarely
updated in the way the user expects when audio devices are plugged in/out.

How can I update that? devfsadm doesn't help, and I don't know other way.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS, Samba, Windows ACLs

2012-10-16 Thread Jim Klimov

2012-10-16 6:44, lbr...@me.com wrote:

Specifically the issues are with PAM, nsswitch, and setting the ACLs.
-svccfg -s name-service/switch
--svccfg: Pattern 'name-service/switch' doesn't match any instances or
services
Nsswitch does not seem to exist. (Remember I am new to this and it may
be staring me in the face.)


First of all, this should be all with dashes (at least in OI):
# svccfg -s name-service-switch

Tried this and same issue, not found. I did try a `pkg search` but could
not find the package.
Not sure what I am doing wrong... :/


Oh shoot, my bad. I copy-pasted your example without looking deeper.
It should be name-service-cache and name-services (at least it's in
Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris; where did you get the -switch - Sol11?):

# svcs -a | grep name-ser
online 2011 svc:/milestone/name-services:default
online 2011 svc:/system/name-service-cache:default


Also there are name-services (when changing naming configs,
you often are better off restarting both of these).


Among other things that bite people are NWAM for networking auto
config magic (vs. static config via good old files), which can
replace the /etc/nsswitch.conf file according to the profile it
thinks currently applies to you. Even if not, validate what is
in your current copy of /etc/nsswitch.conf file.

Sorry, //Jim

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Boot stalls on install

2012-10-16 Thread Bentley, Dain
After searching for my chipset and illumos I found a bug report filed. I had to 
disable USB in the bios and now the CD boots. Apparently a patch has been 
released for Illumos not sure if it has made it Openindiana yet.

So if you have this chipset disable USB.

Regards,
Dain Bentley

-Original Message-
From: Nathan Kunkee [nkunke...@hotmail.com]
Received: Monday, 15 Oct 2012, 10:59pm
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org [openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org]
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Boot stalls on install



 From: dbent...@nas.edu
 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:02:05 -0400
 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Boot stalls on install

 Hello all...
 I'm trying to boot from DVD to install Opeindiana on a Gigabyte H55M-S2V and 
 Im having issues. As soon as I get past the grub screen and select boot from 
 cd I get the oracle trademark message and everything freezes up. My keyboars 
 (regualr ps2 connection) becomes unusable and I have to hard boot.
 It's an Intell H55 express chipset and the memory is seated fiine and I've 
 switched out sticks to ensure I don't have a RAM issue. FreeBSD seems to boot 
 up fine so I know hardware doesn't seem to be an issue. I'd rather use 
 Openindiana if I can help it instead of FreeBSD. Has asyone tried installing 
 on this chipset before?

I'm not using that chipset, but as the next step, you could try booting with 
more logging on.

Clear out the graphics parts from grub and add the kernel options as below. 'e' 
allows you to edit a line. You'll want the section to look similar to below 
(hoping my VBox setup is similar enough):

kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -s -v -k
module$ /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive

then hit 'b' to boot from the modified entries. -s means single user mode; -v 
means verbose, and -k means kernel debugger land if something does bomb. 
Hopefully that may point to a driver that may be having issues or otherwise 
narrow down what is going on.

Hth,
Nathan






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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Laurent Blume

On 16/10/12 12:14, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:


How can I update that? devfsadm doesn't help, and I don't know other way.


I've never found a way other than manually removing the /dev/audio 
symlinks and recreating them to the right device. I had an USB webcam 
with a mike, every time it was plugged in, it became the default audio 
device. I recreated /dev/audio* as needed.


Laurent

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Missing ZFS features?!

2012-10-16 Thread Jonathan Adams
On 16 October 2012 14:09, Flo flor...@acw.at wrote:

...

 Why has the zfs version from oracle more features than oi?

this is a very arguable statement ... it's like saying I have more
features than Stephen Hawking because my legs work.

Jon

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

2012-10-16 Thread Christopher Chan

On Saturday, October 13, 2012 09:10 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:

2012-10-13 11:27, Roel_D wrote:

Yes! That is the card i own too.
I have tried to install it with solaris 10 but no driver existed. 
Maybe today for OI


There is a driver tw provided by the vendor.
A couple of months ago Edward Ned harvey posted a procedure
to add his driver (3ware 9650SE) during LiveCD installation:

Result:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.openindiana.general/9047

Thread:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.openindiana.general/9043


No way, 3ware has Solaris drivers now?

There goes Areca, so long.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Missing ZFS features?!

2012-10-16 Thread Robin Axelsson

On 2012-10-16 16:16, Jonathan Adams wrote:

On 16 October 2012 14:09, Floflor...@acw.at  wrote:

...


Why has the zfs version from oracle more features than oi?

this is a very arguable statement ... it's like saying I have more
features than Stephen Hawking because my legs work.

Jon

So you are implying that the Illumos version of ZFS is crippled?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

2012-10-16 Thread Christopher Chan
Er...SATA was designed to be hot swappable from the start? There is no 
such thing as a non-hot swappable SATA hd. If you meant you can have 4 
sata hard disks that are inconvenient to hot swap, then that is fine. 
You can however get four disk bay cages that facilitate hot swapping by 
allowing you to just pull the disk out from the front while taking 3 5 
1/4 bays in the case.


On Sunday, October 14, 2012 09:16 PM, Roel_D wrote:

As far as my knowledge goes, you can have 4 non-hotswapable sata HD's and there 
is an expansionoption for 2 more.


Kind regards,

The out-side

Op 14 okt. 2012 om 13:26 heeft Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru het volgende 
geschreven:


2012-10-14 14:11, Michelle Knight wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:18:52 +0200 Roel_D openindi...@out-side.nl wrote:


HP N40L
Runs every OI version out of the box.
Although it has a ventilator



On the tech sheet it is one data port short and max internal storage is
4 x 2tb drives.


Most people on the list have tweaked theirs, either by flashing
another BIOS which allows generic uses for ODD SATA port, or
adding an LSI controller with internal and/or external ports
and IT firmware, often not using mobo ports at all. Some tweaks
replace the CD bay with a 4x2.5 or even a 6*2.5(7.5mm) tray
and use the smaller disks for rpools and caches.

It also has ECC RAM which is a very good thing (esp. with ZFS),
though seems limited to its 8Gb.

I hope other list members who have actual practice with these
can elaborate more; I don't think HDD size is really limited
(especially if you use another HBA).

HTH,
//Jim

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Missing ZFS features?!

2012-10-16 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 10/16/12 06:09 AM, Flo wrote:
 while deploying a new zfs backup script, I recognized that on solaris 11 and
 openindiana 151a7 there is the same zfs version, version 5. Is that correct?

That is a data format version for the filesystem data on disk, not a software
feature version.   You'll find the zpool versions are much farther apart than
that - but that's also a data format version, not a software feature version.

There is no single version number that covers all the ZFS feature set, and
now that ZFS has forked into multiple streams of development in the different
OS'es/distros, that's going to get worse, not better (which is why illumos ZFS
introduced feature flags instead of using monotonic version numbers that
assume all distros add all the same features in the same order).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
He may not be aware of the hot-swap capabilities, he may be going by
the fact that they aren't in a backplane type cage, but even on their
own, SATA and SAS is designed to be hot-swappable.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Christopher Chan
christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:
 Er...SATA was designed to be hot swappable from the start? There is no such
 thing as a non-hot swappable SATA hd. If you meant you can have 4 sata hard
 disks that are inconvenient to hot swap, then that is fine. You can however
 get four disk bay cages that facilitate hot swapping by allowing you to just
 pull the disk out from the front while taking 3 5 1/4 bays in the case.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] KVM and Xen support in OpenIndiana

2012-10-16 Thread Christopher Chan

On Monday, October 15, 2012 10:10 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012, Jonathan Adams wrote:


We have Linux and Windows 2008 R2 servers running at different sites
in KVM machines and it works a treat (if you have all the passthrough
stuff on Intel chips turned on)


Is OpenIndiana's KVM usable for running a desktop OS like Windows 7 
with use of the Windows GUI console (keyboard, mouse, video)? From a 
desktop usability standpoint, how would it compare with VirtualBox?
3D support from guest additions on Vbox. Not sure that the vmgl stuff 
will work on OI for KVM.


From my experience VirtualBox provides and excellent guest desktop 
experience (even works great for Netflix video streaming with Windows 
7 guest) but that CPU and filesystem performance may suffer.


Try using iscsi for virtualbox disks. That should make filesystem 
performance sing.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

2012-10-16 Thread Christopher Chan
Well, the existence of eSata should have been sufficient to point to 
sata's builtin hot swap capabilities but ah well.


On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:44 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:

He may not be aware of the hot-swap capabilities, he may be going by
the fact that they aren't in a backplane type cage, but even on their
own, SATA and SAS is designed to be hot-swappable.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Christopher Chan
christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:

Er...SATA was designed to be hot swappable from the start? There is no such
thing as a non-hot swappable SATA hd. If you meant you can have 4 sata hard
disks that are inconvenient to hot swap, then that is fine. You can however
get four disk bay cages that facilitate hot swapping by allowing you to just
pull the disk out from the front while taking 3 5 1/4 bays in the case.






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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)

On 16/10/2012 12:14, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

On 10/16/2012 01:56 PM, Laurent Blume wrote:

On 16/10/12 05:59, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

Good day.

snip

$ prtconf -D
...
pci17aa,20aa, instance #2 (driver name: uhci)
device, instance #4 (driver name: usb_mid)
input, instance #4 (driver name: hid)
sound-control, instance #0 (driver name: usb_ac)
...

But I haven't any usable devices for it. Can I use this card, or current
drivers does not support it?


You are not getting any /dev/sound/xx devices when you plug it? One
common problem in Solaris is that the /dev/audio symlinks are rarely
updated in the way the user expects when audio devices are plugged in/out.

How can I update that? devfsadm doesn't help, and I don't know other way.


I found that these entries in /etc/dacf.conf formerly present in
Osol 2009.06 are missing now:

#
# Configure and/or unconfigure usb audio devices.
# usb_ac as a mux for hid and usb_as devices.
#
driver-minorname=usb_ac:mux usb_ac_dacf:usb_audio_config post-attach -
driver-minorname=usb_ac:mux usb_ac_dacf:usb_audio_config pre-detach -

The /etc/driver_aliases entry is still there, the /kernel/drv/usb_ac is
there, and the /kernel/drv/usb_ac.conf file has this promising entry commented:
#
# Uncomment reset-configuration to cause the usb_ac driver's state to
# be reset to the default when the driver is loaded. Otherwise this state
# is retained across driver unload/reload cycles, but not across reboots.
#
#reset-configuration=1;

Maybe inserting the above lines and uncommenting this one followed
by a reboot helps ?
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] KVM and Xen support in OpenIndiana

2012-10-16 Thread Jonathan Adams
 3D support from guest additions on Vbox. Not sure that the vmgl stuff will
 work on OI for KVM.

from what I've seen of the working systems ... I don't believe it
will, I connect in with rdesktop and VNC to the Windows server, but
the graphics doesn't feel accelerated.

 Does OpenIndiana's KVM support hi-def host-audio output?

Again, I don't believe so ... but others might prove me wrong.

KVM does what I need it to, and can quite happily handle 10
rdesktop'ed users running the Accounts system (that is using a Linux
Pervasive SQL database engine in another KVM instance) quite happily,
without them realising that they are on a virtualised machine.

I wouldn't use it for playing games, and I'm not sure what the audio
output would be since we don't like the accounts dept enough to give
them that ;-P but it's significantly better than the old Windows 2003
server on non-virtualised hardware.

Jon

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox 13 Java

2012-10-16 Thread Reginald Beardsley
I updated to Firefox 13 some time ago.  I just discovered that it disabled 
Java because it was out of date.  

I've installed jre1.7.0_07 per the  Oracle instructions (which are hopelessly 
out of date and stop at Firefox 4) and restarted Firefox. 

Firefox Tools-Add-ons-Plugins says You don't have any add-ons of this type 
installed.

There's a working symlink in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins to libnpjp2.so

Any suggestions?  google didn't produce anything relevant and learn more from 
Firefox just wants to pimp things I don't want.  The OI Java install seems to 
be a bowl of symlink spaghetti.

Is there something in the user directory that affects this?  I tried creating a 
new .mozilla tree, but ti didn't help.

Thanks,
Reg


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox 13 Java

2012-10-16 Thread Jonathan Adams
where did you install jre1.7.0_07 ?

jadams@jadlaptop:/opt/sfw/lib/firefox/plugins$ ls -l /usr/jdk/
total 9
drwxr-xr-x   5 root bin5 Oct  9 14:58 instances
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  21 Oct  9 12:21 jdk1.6.0_35 -
instances/jdk1.6.0_35
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  21 Oct  9 12:21 jdk1.7.0_07 -
instances/jdk1.7.0_07
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  11 Oct  9 12:21 latest - jdk1.7.0_07
drwxr-xr-x   4 root bin4 May 26  2010 packages

jadams@jadlaptop:/opt/sfw/lib/firefox/plugins$ ls -l /usr/java
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  10 Mar  9  2012 /usr/java - jdk/latest

jadams@jadlaptop:/opt/sfw/lib/firefox/plugins$ cd /opt/sfw/lib/firefox/plugins

jadams@jadlaptop:/opt/sfw/lib/firefox/plugins$ ls -l libnpjp2.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  34 Jun 22  2010 libnpjp2.so -
/usr/java/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

I extracted my JDK into /usr/jdk/instances then created the symlinks
from the parent directory (/usr/jdk) to get the latest versions.

I need a 1.6 java to run SQLDeveloper ...

On 16 October 2012 17:38, Reginald Beardsley pulask...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I updated to Firefox 13 some time ago.  I just discovered that it disabled 
 Java because it was out of date.

 I've installed jre1.7.0_07 per the  Oracle instructions (which are hopelessly 
 out of date and stop at Firefox 4) and restarted Firefox.

 Firefox Tools-Add-ons-Plugins says You don't have any add-ons of this type 
 installed.

 There's a working symlink in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins to libnpjp2.so

 Any suggestions?  google didn't produce anything relevant and learn more 
 from Firefox just wants to pimp things I don't want.  The OI Java install 
 seems to be a bowl of symlink spaghetti.

 Is there something in the user directory that affects this?  I tried creating 
 a new .mozilla tree, but ti didn't help.

 Thanks,
 Reg


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] KVM and Xen support in OpenIndiana

2012-10-16 Thread Albert Lee
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Nikola M minik...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lukas Laukamp wrote:
 Hello all,

 at the moment I am search for alternativ OSes than linux which have
 KVM and Xen support. beside NetBSD and Illumos I also want to look at
 OpenIndiana.

 For KVM I found a port at github which semm to work but is in a
 testing/development state.

 For Xen I couldn't find that much so for me it's not clear if there is
 Dom0 support in OpenIndiana or whether there are plans to implement
 Dom0 support.

 When someone know more about that themes it would be great to get a
 reply with more information.
 Hi to All new to Solaris and Illumos based, Openiniana :)
 I hope you will find many benefits in using Solaris / Illumos based
 systems but you
 _really get to know what you will get with it's benefits_ and where it
 shines comparing to other platforms.
 If you know it, I hope choosing it would be more easy, primary from
 Sysadmin perspective
 that wants to have a life more easy and safer in a sense of doing your
 work like you expect.
 List of Illumos distributions:
 http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/Distributions

 Those benefits include open source engineered Kernel with ZFS on the
 upstream, Light virtualization with Zones, network virtualization with
 crossbow, KVM integration, DTrace for live server debugging, better
 hardware scalability, binary compatibility of applications between
 releases, stable driver ABI, boot environments/snapshots,IP2
 mutipathing/Load balancing, role based access control, etc.

 Openindiana is Illumos based distribution, with IPS packaging as
 continuation of Opensolaris and is made of mostly same user space
 packages as Solaris11, plus OI additional IPS publishers/repositories.
 It is available both in text-only install (server) and with Desktop, as
 the truly Opensolaris continuation.

 http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/1.+Introduction
 https://hg.openindiana.org/
 http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Package+Repositories

 KVM for Illumos is made for SmartOS (Joyent company made it for a cloud)
 and is now available in Openindiana.
 Officially, KVM for Illumos supports Intel CPU's with EPT instruction set.

 http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/KVM

 Illumos KVM is used in production in Joyent for large scale
 virtualization for real-world customers and is available in Openindiana.
 Version for AMD CPUs and Intel without EPT is in development and need
 community backing.

 http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Hardware+Requirements#HardwareRequirements-KVMRequirements
 https://github.com/jclulow/illumos-kvm/

 Illumos distributions and Openindiana support running as domU .
 Xen (dom0) support was available in Opensolaris 2009.06 till Opensolaris
 snv_134 , but
 aether Oracle ditched it from source before renamed it to it's closed
 source product on Solaris11,
 and Illumos does not have it in the code tree, because it was removed
 from OS/Net before Oracle forked it to closed source and Illumos
 established itself.

That is incorrect. Xen dom0 support is still in illumos, and OI still
ships a (semi-) working Xen dom0 implementation.

-Albert

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I am having problems with Inkscape and convert producing PNG's

2012-10-16 Thread ken mays
Hi Jonathan,

I resolved the issues with inkscape in which you may do some testing once these 
packages are rebuilt in the SFE repo.
The new package is being based on inkscape 0.48.3.1.

Any issues, let me know or file a bug report here: 
https://www.illumos.org/projects/oi-sfe/issues

Thanks,
~ Ken Mays





 From: Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 11:05 AM
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I am having problems with Inkscape and convert 
producing PNG's
 
it's the same message on both, I'm not sure if Inkscape is using
convert to produce the file.

jadams@jadlaptop:~/images$ convert Mylogo.svg /tmp/Mylogo.png
convert: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.2.44
`/tmp/Mylogo.png' @ warning/png.c/MagickPNGWarningHandler/1781.
convert: Application  is  running with png.c from libpng-1.4.3
`/tmp/Mylogo.png' @ warning/png.c/MagickPNGWarningHandler/1781.
convert: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
`/tmp/Mylogo.png' @ warning/png.c/MagickPNGWarningHandler/1781.
convert: memory allocation failed `/tmp/Mylogo.png' @
error/png.c/WriteOnePNGImage/8873.

jadams@jadlaptop:/sal/images$ pkg list | egrep -i inkscape|png|magick
image/editor/imagemagick (sfe)                    6.7.6.10-0.151.1.5         i--
image/editor/inkscape (sfe)                       0.48.2-0.151.1.5           i--
image/library/g++/imagemagick (sfe)               6.7.6.10-0.151.1.5         i--
image/library/libpng                              0.5.11-0.151.1.7           i--

Any suggestions on what to install to get this working? :)

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

2012-10-16 Thread Roel_D
Hmz, i was just typing what is written on the harddiskcages: non-hotswappable 

But to be onnest, i didn't know every SATA disk was hotswappable. 

Kind regards, 

The out-side

Op 16 okt. 2012 om 16:50 heeft Christopher Chan 
christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk het volgende geschreven:

 Well, the existence of eSata should have been sufficient to point to sata's 
 builtin hot swap capabilities but ah well.
 
 On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:44 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
 He may not be aware of the hot-swap capabilities, he may be going by
 the fact that they aren't in a backplane type cage, but even on their
 own, SATA and SAS is designed to be hot-swappable.
 
 On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Christopher Chan
 christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:
 Er...SATA was designed to be hot swappable from the start? There is no such
 thing as a non-hot swappable SATA hd. If you meant you can have 4 sata hard
 disks that are inconvenient to hot swap, then that is fine. You can however
 get four disk bay cages that facilitate hot swapping by allowing you to just
 pull the disk out from the front while taking 3 5 1/4 bays in the case.
 
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

2012-10-16 Thread Andrej Javoršek
Hello!
Also my impression was that not all SATA controllers suport/tolerate hot
swap and simply puling disk out can damage disk and/or controller!?

Regards
Andrej

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Roel_D openindi...@out-side.nl wrote:

 Hmz, i was just typing what is written on the harddiskcages:
 non-hotswappable

 But to be onnest, i didn't know every SATA disk was hotswappable.

 Kind regards,

 The out-side

 Op 16 okt. 2012 om 16:50 heeft Christopher Chan 
 christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk het volgende geschreven:

  Well, the existence of eSata should have been sufficient to point to
 sata's builtin hot swap capabilities but ah well.
 
  On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:44 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
  He may not be aware of the hot-swap capabilities, he may be going by
  the fact that they aren't in a backplane type cage, but even on their
  own, SATA and SAS is designed to be hot-swappable.
 
  On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Christopher Chan
  christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:
  Er...SATA was designed to be hot swappable from the start? There is no
 such
  thing as a non-hot swappable SATA hd. If you meant you can have 4 sata
 hard
  disks that are inconvenient to hot swap, then that is fine. You can
 however
  get four disk bay cages that facilitate hot swapping by allowing you
 to just
  pull the disk out from the front while taking 3 5 1/4 bays in the case.
 
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 16.10.12 16:18, Laurent Blume wrote:

On 16/10/12 12:14, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

How can I update that? devfsadm doesn't help, and I don't know other way.


I've never found a way other than manually removing the /dev/audio
symlinks and recreating them to the right device. I had an USB webcam
with a mike, every time it was plugged in, it became the default audio
device. I recreated /dev/audio* as needed.

How you recreated that? ln -s? devfsadm does not create anything.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 16.10.12 19:18, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

I found that these entries in /etc/dacf.conf formerly present in
Osol 2009.06 are missing now:

#
# Configure and/or unconfigure usb audio devices.
# usb_ac as a mux for hid and usb_as devices.
#
driver-minorname=usb_ac:mux usb_ac_dacf:usb_audio_config post-attach -
driver-minorname=usb_ac:mux usb_ac_dacf:usb_audio_config pre-detach -

The /etc/driver_aliases entry is still there, the /kernel/drv/usb_ac is
there, and the /kernel/drv/usb_ac.conf file has this promising entry
commented:
#
# Uncomment reset-configuration to cause the usb_ac driver's state to
# be reset to the default when the driver is loaded. Otherwise this state
# is retained across driver unload/reload cycles, but not across reboots.
#
#reset-configuration=1;

Maybe inserting the above lines and uncommenting this one followed
by a reboot helps ?

No, it does not help.

May be another driver must be loaded? Such as usb_as. I do not see it in 
the modinfo output.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)

On 10/16/12 05:56 PM, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

On 16.10.12 19:18, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

I found that these entries in /etc/dacf.conf formerly present in
Osol 2009.06 are missing now:

#
# Configure and/or unconfigure usb audio devices.
# usb_ac as a mux for hid and usb_as devices.
#
driver-minorname=usb_ac:mux usb_ac_dacf:usb_audio_config post-attach -
driver-minorname=usb_ac:mux usb_ac_dacf:usb_audio_config pre-detach -

The /etc/driver_aliases entry is still there, the /kernel/drv/usb_ac is
there, and the /kernel/drv/usb_ac.conf file has this promising entry
commented:
#
# Uncomment reset-configuration to cause the usb_ac driver's state to
# be reset to the default when the driver is loaded. Otherwise this state
# is retained across driver unload/reload cycles, but not across reboots.
#
#reset-configuration=1;

Maybe inserting the above lines and uncommenting this one followed
by a reboot helps ?

No, it does not help.

May be another driver must be loaded? Such as usb_as. I do not see it in
the modinfo output.


It looks like both must be loaded, usb_as lies below usb_ac,
which is the control interface for user applications.
But these drivers will only work (and load automatically) if
the device complies to the USB audio class specification, which
should be seen in prtconf -v as either usbif,class1.1 or
usbif,class1.2 for your device. If not, you need a proprietary
driver for that specific gadget.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] KVM and Xen support in OpenIndiana

2012-10-16 Thread Nikola M
Albert Lee wrote:
 That is incorrect. Xen dom0 support is still in illumos, and OI still
 ships a (semi-) working Xen dom0 implementation. -Albert
This sounds very encouraging 
but I can't find any information about how dom0 works in a way and what
it needs to shine again.
I can only suppose it needs clear explanation in what is better with Xen
then with KVM
(I remember in Opensolaris XEN domU machines could work inside Solaris
zones),
and also supported Xen developers.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

2012-10-16 Thread Christopher Chan

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 03:32 AM, Andrej Javoršek wrote:

Hello!
Also my impression was that not all SATA controllers suport/tolerate hot
swap and simply puling disk out can damage disk and/or controller!?


Maybe first generation fake SataI 1.5gbps speed controllers or lack of 
driver support.


It certainly was present for sil3124



Regards
Andrej

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Roel_D openindi...@out-side.nl wrote:


Hmz, i was just typing what is written on the harddiskcages:
non-hotswappable

But to be onnest, i didn't know every SATA disk was hotswappable.

Kind regards,

The out-side

Op 16 okt. 2012 om 16:50 heeft Christopher Chan 
christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk het volgende geschreven:


Well, the existence of eSata should have been sufficient to point to

sata's builtin hot swap capabilities but ah well.

On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:44 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:

He may not be aware of the hot-swap capabilities, he may be going by
the fact that they aren't in a backplane type cage, but even on their
own, SATA and SAS is designed to be hot-swappable.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Christopher Chan
christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:

Er...SATA was designed to be hot swappable from the start? There is no

such

thing as a non-hot swappable SATA hd. If you meant you can have 4 sata

hard

disks that are inconvenient to hot swap, then that is fine. You can

however

get four disk bay cages that facilitate hot swapping by allowing you

to just

pull the disk out from the front while taking 3 5 1/4 bays in the case.


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-16 Thread Scott Marcy
Hi all,

I'm new to the list and OI, but I've been running a Solaris box with some 
version of ZFS on it for a couple years. I recently acquired a Supermicro 
6047R-E1R36N. It has an X9DRi-LN4F+ motherboard, dual E5-2620s and 48GB of RAM. 
I soon learned that I needed a different HBA (it comes with an LSI 2108-based 
card that doesn't have any JBOD passthrough mode), so I replaced that with an 
LSI SAS9211-8i, flashed with the latest IT firmware.

Being new to SAS expanders (which this server has two of), I quickly learned 
that some older 2TB drives I had on my older Solaris box simply will not work 
reliably on the expander. (They would very quickly lock up the entire file 
system once the load got heavy.) However, I've had much better luck (so far) 
with some newer 3TB SATA drives (Seagate ST3000DM001). I'm still not convinced 
that these are going to be reliable in the long run, having now read about a 
few SATA-on-SAS expander horror stories (and my own experience with the 2TB 
drives), but this isn't a production system (yet) so I'm willing to see how it 
goes.

But the one problem I can't seem to figure out are the Samsung 830 SSD drives I 
have for ZIL and ARC. I have 2 mirrored 128GB 830s as the boot pool, but 
they're on the built-in SATA ports, not the expander ports. Then I have four 
other 128GB 830s which I installed into 3.5 hot-swap adapters and these are 
the ones causing problems. The HBA sees the drives just fine—they're listed 
during POST and I can access them via the card's built-in BIOS. But once OI 
(151a5) is up and running, it only sees ONE of the 830s. And here's where it 
gets weird: if I remove all but one of the SSDs from the expander ports, it 
will see whichever one SSD is connected—it does not matter which port the 
drives are on. Also, regardless of the port, the attachment path always seems 
to be the same in the OS. It's like the OS thinks all four drives are the exact 
same physical drive.

$ cfgadm -al
Ap_Id  Type Receptacle   Occupant Condition
c6 scsi-sas connectedconfigured   unknown
c6::es/ses0ESI  connectedconfigured   unknown
c6::smp/expd0  smp  connectedconfigured   unknown
c6::w5002538043584d30,0disk-pathconnectedconfigured   unknown  
-- this is the SSD
c6::w5000c500513a0efe,0disk-pathconnectedconfigured   unknown
c6::w5000c5005168b2f0,0disk-pathconnectedconfigured   unknown
c6::w5000c5005169a612,0disk-pathconnectedconfigured   unknown
c6::w5000c5005169cc6a,0disk-pathconnectedconfigured   unknown
c6::w5000c500515199bd,0disk-pathconnectedconfigured   unknown
c6::w5000c500517042d9,0disk-pathconnectedconfigured   unknown
c8 scsi-sas connectedconfigured   unknown
c8::es/ses1ESI  connectedconfigured   unknown
c8::smp/expd1  smp  connectedconfigured   unknown
c9 scsi-sas connectedunconfigured unknown
sata0/0::dsk/c4t0d0disk connectedconfigured   ok
sata0/1::dsk/c4t1d0disk connectedconfigured   ok
sata0/2sata-portemptyunconfigured ok
sata0/3sata-portemptyunconfigured ok
sata0/4sata-portemptyunconfigured ok
sata0/5sata-portemptyunconfigured ok


$ format
Searching for disks...done


AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS:
   0. c4t0d0 ATA-SAMSUNGSSD830-3B1Q cyl 19932 alt 2 hd 224 sec 56
  /pci@0,0/pci15d9,626@1f,2/disk@0,0
   1. c4t1d0 ATA-SAMSUNGSSD830-3B1Q cyl 19932 alt 2 hd 224 sec 56
  /pci@0,0/pci15d9,626@1f,2/disk@1,0
   2. c7t5000C500513A0EFEd0 ATA-ST3000DM001-9YN1-CC4B-2.73TB
  /scsi_vhci/disk@g5000c500513a0efe
   3. c7t5000C5005168B2F0d0 ATA-ST3000DM001-9YN1-CC4B-2.73TB
  /scsi_vhci/disk@g5000c5005168b2f0
   4. c7t5000C5005169A612d0 ATA-ST3000DM001-9YN1-CC4B-2.73TB
  /scsi_vhci/disk@g5000c5005169a612
   5. c7t5000C5005169CC6Ad0 ATA-ST3000DM001-9YN1-CC4B-2.73TB
  /scsi_vhci/disk@g5000c5005169cc6a
   6. c7t5000C500515199BDd0 ATA-ST3000DM001-9YN1-CC4B-2.73TB
  /scsi_vhci/disk@g5000c500515199bd
   7. c7t5000C500517042D9d0 ATA-ST3000DM001-9YN1-CC4B-2.73TB
  /scsi_vhci/disk@g5000c500517042d9
   8. c7t5002538043584D30d0 ATA-SAMSUNG SSD 830-3B1Q-119.24GB
  /scsi_vhci/disk@g5002538043584d30

This last one is the SSD. If I remove all the SSDs from the expander ports, 
disk #8 does not show up (nor does it show in cfgadm). If I put one SSD into 
any expander port, disk 8 is back. If I add additional SSDs, I still only have 
disk 8. If I remove the first SSD (while others are still attached), disk 8 
still appears. In 

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox 13 Java

2012-10-16 Thread Dmitry Kozhinov

Why Firefox 13?

Firefox 16.0.1 is available at 
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/16.0.1/contrib/


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