Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)

On 28/04/2015 22:00, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote:

Hello,

A few days ago I downloaded the latest sources of openjdk8in order to build a 
32bit binary.
The build process finished and it created the required images. Now, there is no 
file

libnpjp2.soso there is no Java plugin for Firefox. I have also checked 
jdk1.8.0_31

and there is no file libnpjp2.so there! Now according to the following Web page:

http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/install/linux_plugin.html

there is Java plugin for both i386 and amd64 systems! My simple question is:
Where is the Java plugin?


I see now that you use OpenJDK, that has no browser plugin at
all. Use the Oracle Java distribution instead.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)

On 28/04/2015 22:00, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote:

Hello,

A few days ago I downloaded the latest sources of openjdk8in order to build a 
32bit binary.
The build process finished and it created the required images. Now, there is no 
file

libnpjp2.soso there is no Java plugin for Firefox. I have also checked 
jdk1.8.0_31

and there is no file libnpjp2.so there! Now according to the following Web page:

http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/install/linux_plugin.html

there is Java plugin for both i386 and amd64 systems! My simple question is:
Where is the Java plugin?


Its now named libjavaplugin.so, the old libnpjp2.so is not supported.
But that new plugin does not work with the older firefox 31.x series,
so stay with Java 7 for that. It works with Firefox 37.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Jonathan Adams
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK

The Web browser plugin and Web Start
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Web_Start, which are part of Oracle
Java, are not included in OpenJDK. Sun previously indicated that they would
try to open-source these components, but neither Sun nor Oracle have done
so.[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK#cite_note-4 The only
currently available free plugin and Web Start implementation are those
provided by IcedTea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea.

you could have a look at:

http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/IcedTea-Web

and see if that works for you ... :)

On 29 April 2015 at 10:18, Udo Grabowski (IMK) udo.grabow...@kit.edu
wrote:

 On 28/04/2015 22:00, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote:

 Hello,

 A few days ago I downloaded the latest sources of openjdk8in order to
 build a 32bit binary.
 The build process finished and it created the required images. Now, there
 is no file

 libnpjp2.soso there is no Java plugin for Firefox. I have also checked
 jdk1.8.0_31

 and there is no file libnpjp2.so there! Now according to the following
 Web page:


 http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/install/linux_plugin.html

 there is Java plugin for both i386 and amd64 systems! My simple question
 is:
 Where is the Java plugin?


 I see now that you use OpenJDK, that has no browser plugin at
 all. Use the Oracle Java distribution instead.
 --
 Dr.Udo Grabowski   Inst.f.Meteorology  Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT
 http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php
 KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology   http://www.kit.edu
 Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)

On 29/04/2015 16:05, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:

Its now named libjavaplugin.so, the old libnpjp2.so is not supported.
But that new plugin does not work with the older firefox 31.x series,
so stay with Java 7 for that. It works with Firefox 37.



$ pwd
/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.8.0_31
$ find . -name libjava*
./jre/lib/amd64/libjava_crw_demo.so
./jre/lib/amd64/libjava.so



So where is this plugin? I am asking because I suspect that Oracle has dropped 
..


As said, OpenJDK is not Oracle JDK and has NO browser plugins.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
 Its now named libjavaplugin.so, the old libnpjp2.so is not supported.
 But that new plugin does not work with the older firefox 31.x series,
 so stay with Java 7 for that. It works with Firefox 37.
 

$ pwd
/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.8.0_31
$ find . -name libjava*
./jre/lib/amd64/libjava_crw_demo.so
./jre/lib/amd64/libjava.so

 

So where is this plugin? I am asking because I suspect that Oracle has dropped 
the
Java plugin for Solaris  friends. But the plugin is included for Linux and 
other
supported platforms:

http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/install/linux_plugin.html

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss

 As said, OpenJDK is not Oracle JDK and has NO browser plugins.
Some times one makes some intuitive assumptions which obviously most of the
times do not hold... Thus I thought it was clear that I was talking about 

the Oracle JDK. So to be absolutely clear, I cannot find the browser plugin in
the Oracle JDK distribution.

A.S.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Jonathan Adams
You can only get the plugin for Java 7, Java 8 for Solaris is 64 bit only,
because Solaris runs on servers and the plugin was 32 bit only.

If you compile OpenJDK, using IcedTea, you should be able to get a plugin
working for you.

I just resort to keeping the latest Java 7 install lying around.  The
downside is I need to either use Java 7 as the default (setting my
JAVA_HOME in my profile) and changing my PATH and JAVA_HOME when I want to
use the newer Java 8, or put wrappers around specific applications that
require an old JAVA


On 29 April 2015 at 15:13, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss 
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org wrote:

 
  As said, OpenJDK is not Oracle JDK and has NO browser plugins.
 Some times one makes some intuitive assumptions which obviously most of
 the
 times do not hold... Thus I thought it was clear that I was talking about

 the Oracle JDK. So to be absolutely clear, I cannot find the browser
 plugin in
 the Oracle JDK distribution.

 A.S.

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 Xanthi, Greece

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
You can only get the plugin for Java 7, Java 8 for Solaris is 64 bit only, 
because Solaris runs on servers 

and the plugin was 32 bit only.


OK but why is there a plugin for both 32 and 64 bit Linux systems?

If you compile OpenJDK, using IcedTea, you should be able to get a plugin 
working for you.


That is exactly what I am doing right now.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith

On 04/29/15 07:05 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote:

So where is this plugin? I am asking because I suspect that Oracle has dropped 
the
Java plugin for Solaris  friends.


It has for Oracle JDK - I don't know about OpenJDK.

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/8-compatibility-guide-2156366.html#A999476
search down for Removal of 32-bit Solaris where it says:

The 64-bit binaries do not contain deployment tools such as Java Web Start
 and Java Plug-in, therefore desktop integration is no longer required.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)

On 29/04/2015 16:13, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:


As said, OpenJDK is not Oracle JDK and has NO browser plugins.

Some times one makes some intuitive assumptions which obviously most of the
times do not hold... Thus I thought it was clear that I was talking about



Uhmm , sorry for that misunderstanding.


the Oracle JDK. So to be absolutely clear, I cannot find the browser plugin in
the Oracle JDK distribution.


Indeed, the plugin was removed at all from JDK8, the difference
I was talking about between libnpjp2.so and libjavaplugin.so for
Firefox 31.x versus 37.x only holds for JDK 7.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Java 8 plugin for Firefox

2015-04-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss

 The 64-bit binaries do not contain deployment tools such as Java Web Start
   and Java Plug-in, therefore desktop integration is no longer required.
 


Required? I guess this is a clever way to say that we provide no support for
Solaris. But of course they do provide support for Linux. 


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