Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 20190511 gui/text boot fails on Dell R710 II

2019-11-07 Thread Tim Mooney

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 20190511 gui/text boot fails on...:


On 7. Nov 2019, at 21:47, Tim Mooney  wrote:

I was under the impression that UEFI boot did not work for any
Illumos-based system.


oh, we have uefi boot for a long time now. initially illumos was only running 
serial only, then with full console.


Thanks for the clarification, Toomas.  I'm sorry I somehow missed that.
That's great news.

Tim
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 20190511 gui/text boot fails on Dell R710 II

2019-11-07 Thread Tim Mooney

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Cool so something was better this time round with the media


Since the new ISOs and USB images are now released, unless either of
you want me to test/compare something with the old ISOs, I plan to do
all further testing with the 20191106 images.


What you could try is booting via UEFI mode and see if that works.


I was under the impression that UEFI boot did not work for any
Illumos-based system.  Has that changed?  Or do you mean that testing
UEFI mode might allow loader to get farther, even though booting will
eventually fail because of missing UEFI support later in the process?


My guess is that Dell broke something in the old Bios Bootloader code.


That certainly could be.  It's hard to understand why previously only 2 of
OIs images encountered the issue, and now from Jedi's testing with the
new images, it's down to just one that doesn't work.


The new error you are getting from the gui image could also be a read error.

Could you post the output of lsdev from the ok prompt?


I'm still working on downloading the new images, but I will do so once I
can test.  Jedi may beat me to it.

Tim


On 07.11.19 19:34, Jedi Tek'Unum wrote:

OI-hipster-minimal-20191106.iso works

OI-hipster-text-20191106.iso works! This is a change from 20190511. I went back 
and tried 20190511 again and it still fails.

OI-hipster-gui-20191106.iso fails as before with

loading CORE EXT words
loading SEARCH & SEARCH-EXT words
loading Johns-Hopkins locals
loading MARKER
loading ficl O-O extensions
loading ficl utility classes
loading ficl string classes
\
start not found

Type ‘?’ for a list of commands, ‘help’ for more detailed help.
ok

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 20190511 gui/text boot fails on Dell R710 II

2019-11-07 Thread Till Wegmüller
Cool so something was better this time round with the media

I talked to the developer of loader tsoome (cc'd as he is not on this
list) today.

Basically the situation you where experiencing with loader and the text
image can only happen if the system is returning reads with one of
following codes: result == 0x20 || result == 0x31 || result == 0x80 - we
do not print error messages on those.
0x20 is controller failure, 31 and 80 are no media in drive

If the system is reporting read errors, only thing loader can do is to
reset the controller and try again - the biosdisk.c does 3 attempts
there (except for those 3 errors).

What you could try is booting via UEFI mode and see if that works.

My guess is that Dell broke something in the old Bios Bootloader code.

The new error you are getting from the gui image could also be a read error.

Could you post the output of lsdev from the ok prompt?

I am curious if loader is able to see the VirtualCD drive.

Greetings
Till
On 07.11.19 19:34, Jedi Tek'Unum wrote:
> OI-hipster-minimal-20191106.iso works
> 
> OI-hipster-text-20191106.iso works! This is a change from 20190511. I went 
> back and tried 20190511 again and it still fails.
> 
> OI-hipster-gui-20191106.iso fails as before with
> 
>   loading CORE EXT words
>   loading SEARCH & SEARCH-EXT words
>   loading Johns-Hopkins locals
>   loading MARKER  
>   loading ficl O-O extensions
>   loading ficl utility classes
>   loading ficl string classes
>   \
>   start not found
> 
>   Type ‘?’ for a list of commands, ‘help’ for more detailed help.
>   ok
> 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 20190511 gui/text boot fails on Dell R710 II

2019-11-07 Thread ken mays via openindiana-discuss
 Hi Jedi,
Can you report this on the OI bug tracker with your specific physical hardware 
or VM used?I have it working here, so can compare notes.
~K

On Thursday, November 7, 2019, 10:34:27 AM PST, Jedi Tek'Unum 
 wrote:  
 
 OI-hipster-minimal-20191106.iso works

OI-hipster-text-20191106.iso works! This is a change from 20190511. I went back 
and tried 20190511 again and it still fails.

OI-hipster-gui-20191106.iso fails as before with

    loading CORE EXT words
    loading SEARCH & SEARCH-EXT words
    loading Johns-Hopkins locals
    loading MARKER    
    loading ficl O-O extensions
    loading ficl utility classes
    loading ficl string classes
    \
    start not found

    Type ‘?’ for a list of commands, ‘help’ for more detailed help.
    ok

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 20190511 gui/text boot fails on Dell R710 II

2019-11-07 Thread Jedi Tek'Unum
OI-hipster-minimal-20191106.iso works

OI-hipster-text-20191106.iso works! This is a change from 20190511. I went back 
and tried 20190511 again and it still fails.

OI-hipster-gui-20191106.iso fails as before with

loading CORE EXT words
loading SEARCH & SEARCH-EXT words
loading Johns-Hopkins locals
loading MARKER  
loading ficl O-O extensions
loading ficl utility classes
loading ficl string classes
\
start not found

Type ‘?’ for a list of commands, ‘help’ for more detailed help.
ok

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Booting OI DVD/USB

2019-11-07 Thread Chris Game

No answer as yet, interesting that on a parallel thread OI is found
to have problems booting on other Dell machines, although on that thread
they are servers while my machine is a humble desktop XPS8500, and a
creaking Latitude 6410. On these machines other OS's - FreeBSD,
Linux and Windows all boot happily.

I found two useful Windows utilities for loading images onto USB
drives, HDDRawCopy portable, and MiniTool Partition Wizard (pretty
much like Gparted) and using those to prep a USB and download the
image file, ends up with three (I think it was) partitions and boots
with the same result as with the iso DVD.

What I was puzzled about was the difference between what was
proposed and the USB device filters in the machine/settings/USB page
in VirtualBox which enables the Windows host USB port and device to be
addressed by the VB guest. I'm not sure the result of loading the
.usb image file and trying to boot from it will be any different
from other results using the iso file.

Thanks as ever for the support.

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019, Tim Mooney wrote:

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Booting OI DVD/USB, Chris Game 
said...:



Thanks for all the suggestions, but I don't follow this one at all.


Did you get an answer to this question, Chris?  The mailing list
archive isn't working, so I don't know if someone else responded and I
missed it, or not.

If you're still looking for a little detail on this, hopefully I can help.


Could you explain how to setup this USB forwarding; I certainly have
VirtualBox and various USB flash keys/drives available but I'm
unclear on how to set this up in the way you mention. Does this end
with with bootable media? That's the aim here, certainly the
DVD from the iso image and a few attempts to create bootable drives
from the usb image files don't.


Tim



On Sun, 3 Nov 2019, Till Wegmüller wrote:


Ah yeah something with that DVD drive does not seem to allow to mount
the live system properly.

Basicly there are one/two files inside the ISO. solaris.zlib and
solaris-misc.zlib (Ancient names from Sun times)

These need to be mounted to /usr and /opt/misc respectively if that is
not possible due to e.g. not finding the DVD drive then the live image
cannot boot.

I do not know the two Tools you used but the OpenSuSE page which is the
OS with the most complete Windows instructions, mentions needing to
select dd mode in rufus to successfully image images.

Can you use Virtualbox? If so you could boot the ISO as a VM and use USB
forwarding to dd the image via the VM to the USB.

Hope this helps
Greetings
Till

On 03.11.19 16:12, Chris Game wrote:




On Sun, 3 Nov 2019, Till Wegmüller wrote:


Hi

Sounds like a driver problem with the specific port you are using to
boot that computer. You seem to be able to land in the ramdisk? Do you
have "df" utility? If you issue "df -h" you should see that / is mounted
from a device called "ramdisk:a". If not you landed in the loader shell.
Which means loader would not support the Boot device you are trying to
use. Have you tried on another USB Port?


I have been using a real DVD after having some issues setting up a
USB. There's no "df" in this maintenance mode, but? there is "mount"
which shows / is mounted from ramdisk:a.


Is UEFI enabled? can you disable it?


Yes, makes no difference.


Can you boot with VESA graphics
mode?


Vesa graphics not a choice at booting on this system.


Can you boot with ACPI off?


Yes, makes no difference.


The last two are selectable from the
Boot menu when you press 5 for more options.

If any of that does not help, please reboot with verbose mode and share
the error that shows on screen.


There are a LOT of lines of output, the last few are:
Hostname: openindiana
REmounting root read/write
Probing for device nodes
Preparing Live image for use
REquesting System Maintenance Mode


Please be aware, that our ISO images are not Hybrid like linux ones. You
must use the .usb images if you want to boot via usb. And you must write
them to the stick directly not any partition.


Ive been using both Rufus and the Win32 Diskimager (as I think was
mentioned on the OI site). Both were causing some issues and crashes
so I changed to using a real DVD burned from the 2019.04 iso file.
Not sure how I can write a file directly as the is no dd function.


Greetings
Till

On 03.11.19 12:45, Chris Game wrote:

Hello everyone,
Trying to boot using downloads of the current OI install/live? CD
files, both the 2019.04 text install and the live DVD. Trying to
boot from either the USB version or the DVD (iso) files. The boot
process gets as far as the OI menu, spits out the SunOS line then
insists on dropping into the Maintenance Mode instead of booting the
system. Now I'm stuck - although I? have a root account there I
have few options, worst of all there is no reboot command and even
the /sbin/init command although it runs seem to have no effect, so
shutdown is through the power button on the physical machine.

Now, how to 

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Hipster 2019.10

2019-11-07 Thread Lou Picciano
Thanks for the continued hard work, Alexander!   

Lou Picciano

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 7:47 AM, Alexander Pyhalov via openindiana-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> OpenIndiana Hipster 2019.10 snapshot is ready.
> 
> Images:
> 
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-gui-20191106.iso
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-gui-20191106.usb
> 
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-text-20191106.iso
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-text-20191106.usb
> 
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-minimal-20191106.iso
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-minimal-20191106.usb
> 
> 
> SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum
> Signed SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum.asc
> The OpenIndiana Release Engineering key has key id 0x3a021afadbe31887 (
> https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get=0x3A021AFADBE31887 ).
> 
> Release notes: 
> http://docs.openindiana.org/release-notes/2019.10-release-notes/
> 
> Note, we have an issue with Firefox on live image - it can fail to start 
> correctly when launched for the first time in memory-constrained  
> environment. After being killed and restarted it behaves more sane.
> 
> Best regards,
> Alexander Pyhalov,
> system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Hipster 2019.10

2019-11-07 Thread Alexander Pyhalov via openindiana-discuss
Hi.

OpenIndiana Hipster 2019.10 snapshot is ready.

Images:

http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-gui-20191106.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-gui-20191106.usb

http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-text-20191106.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-text-20191106.usb

http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-minimal-20191106.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20191106/OI-hipster-minimal-20191106.usb


SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum
Signed SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum.asc
The OpenIndiana Release Engineering key has key id 0x3a021afadbe31887 (
https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get=0x3A021AFADBE31887 ).

Release notes: http://docs.openindiana.org/release-notes/2019.10-release-notes/

Note, we have an issue with Firefox on live image - it can fail to start 
correctly when launched for the first time in memory-constrained  environment. 
After being killed and restarted it behaves more sane.

Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department
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