Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local pkg repo error
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:26 PM Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > cool thanks, in the meantime I found that I could do this: > > root@openindiana:~# pkg list -avHf sudo > pkg://ik5pvx-repo/security/sudo@1.9.3.1-2020.0.1.0:20210114T173814Z > --- > pkg://openindiana.org/security/sudo@1.9.3.1-2020.0.1.0:20201031T120907Z > i-- > pkg://openindiana.org/security/sudo@1.8.31-2020.0.1.0:20200330T16Z > --- > root@openindiana:~# pkg install ik5pvx-repo/security/sudo > > pkg install: The following pattern(s) did not match any allowable > packages. Try > using a different matching pattern, or refreshing publisher information: > > ik5pvx-repo/security/sudo > root@openindiana:~# pkg install > pkg://ik5pvx-repo/security/sudo@1.9.3.1-2020.0.1.0:20210114T173814Z > Packages to update: 1 >Create boot environment: No > Create backup boot environment: Yes > [...etc] > > It is running my version now, although it didn't take all the modifications > I did. But that's another story. > Congratulations on your first steps :) > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:15 PM Aurélien Larcher < > aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:08 PM Pierfrancesco Caci > > wrote: > > > > > The "rebuild" did the trick, but how do I specify to pkg to install the > > > version from my repo instead of the official one? The version is the > same > > > > > > > First you need to allow cross-publisher updates: > > > > pfexec pkg set-publisher --non-sticky openindiana > > > > so that you can update from a package published at openindiana's repo to > > yours. > > > > Then: > > > > pfexec pkg update -g /path/to/repo my_package_name > > > > Also you can do: > > > > pfexec pkg install -g /path/to/repo my_package_fmri > > > > where my_package_fmri is the full package identifier that you can > > copy/paste from the output of gmake publish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 8:39 PM Aurélien Larcher < > > > aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > You can even > > > > > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo list > > > > > > > > to make sure it was published where you think it was. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 8:10 pm Aurélien Larcher, < > > > aurelien.larc...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > You can try to: > > > > > > > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo rebuild > > > > > > > > > > to update the repo index. > > > > > > > > > > On 1/14/21, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm trying to learn how to recompile a package and put it in a > > local > > > > > repo. > > > > > > I've followed the ips-dev-guide.pdf for setting up the repo, and > > the > > > > > > "Getting started with the Userland Consolidation" from github. > > > > > > I got the package to compile and copy to the repo (gmake > publish), > > > but > > > > > when > > > > > > I try to search for that package with "pkg search sudo" I get > this > > > > error: > > > > > > > > > > > > pkg: Some repositories failed to respond appropriately: > > > > > > ik5pvx-repo: > > > > > > file protocol error: code: E_FTP_WEIRD_PASS_REPLY (11) reason: > > > Search > > > > > > temporarily unavailable. > > > > > > Repository URL: 'file:///export/home/ik5pvx/my-repo'. (happened 4 > > > > times) > > > > > > > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > Pf > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --- > > > > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > > ___ > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > > > -- > > --- > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > -- > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local pkg repo error
Am 14.01.21 21:08 schrieb Pierfrancesco Caci : > > The "rebuild" did the trick, but how do I specify to pkg to install the > version from my repo instead of the official one? The version is the same > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 8:39 PM Aurélien Larcher > wrote: > > > You can even > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo list > > > > to make sure it was published where you think it was. > > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 8:10 pm Aurélien Larcher, > > > > wrote: > > > > > You can try to: > > > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo rebuild > > > > > > to update the repo index. > > > > > > On 1/14/21, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to learn how to recompile a package and put it in a local > > > repo. > > > > I've followed the ips-dev-guide.pdf for setting up the repo, and the > > > > "Getting started with the Userland Consolidation" from github. > > > > I got the package to compile and copy to the repo (gmake publish), but > > > when > > > > I try to search for that package with "pkg search sudo" I get this > > error: > > > > > > > > pkg: Some repositories failed to respond appropriately: > > > > ik5pvx-repo: > > > > file protocol error: code: E_FTP_WEIRD_PASS_REPLY (11) reason: Search > > > > temporarily unavailable. > > > > Repository URL: 'file:///export/home/ik5pvx/my-repo'. (happened 4 > > times) > > > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > its normal, search do not work on file repositories, only on pkg server. > > > > > > > > > > Pf > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > > > ___ > > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --- > > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > > > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > -- > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > you shoud set up your publisher in this kind: builder@oi-dev:/code/github/openindiana/oi-userland/components/developer/rust$ pkg publisher PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS P LOCATION userland origin online F file:///code/github/openindiana/oi-userland/i386/repo/ openindiana.org (non-sticky) origin online T http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ the order is important an can set with the --search-before option of 'pkg set-publisher'. if you create a newer version you can fail on the userland-incorporation package which define the versions of packages if they installed. Than you have to unlock the version locking of userland-incorporation whith $ sudo pkg change-facet which is the facet you have to unlock can you check whith $ pkg contents -m userland-incorporation | grep -- Carsten ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local pkg repo error
cool thanks, in the meantime I found that I could do this: root@openindiana:~# pkg list -avHf sudo pkg://ik5pvx-repo/security/sudo@1.9.3.1-2020.0.1.0:20210114T173814Z --- pkg://openindiana.org/security/sudo@1.9.3.1-2020.0.1.0:20201031T120907Z i-- pkg://openindiana.org/security/sudo@1.8.31-2020.0.1.0:20200330T16Z --- root@openindiana:~# pkg install ik5pvx-repo/security/sudo pkg install: The following pattern(s) did not match any allowable packages. Try using a different matching pattern, or refreshing publisher information: ik5pvx-repo/security/sudo root@openindiana:~# pkg install pkg://ik5pvx-repo/security/sudo@1.9.3.1-2020.0.1.0:20210114T173814Z Packages to update: 1 Create boot environment: No Create backup boot environment: Yes [...etc] It is running my version now, although it didn't take all the modifications I did. But that's another story. On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:15 PM Aurélien Larcher wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:08 PM Pierfrancesco Caci > wrote: > > > The "rebuild" did the trick, but how do I specify to pkg to install the > > version from my repo instead of the official one? The version is the same > > > > First you need to allow cross-publisher updates: > > pfexec pkg set-publisher --non-sticky openindiana > > so that you can update from a package published at openindiana's repo to > yours. > > Then: > > pfexec pkg update -g /path/to/repo my_package_name > > Also you can do: > > pfexec pkg install -g /path/to/repo my_package_fmri > > where my_package_fmri is the full package identifier that you can > copy/paste from the output of gmake publish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 8:39 PM Aurélien Larcher < > > aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > You can even > > > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo list > > > > > > to make sure it was published where you think it was. > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 8:10 pm Aurélien Larcher, < > > aurelien.larc...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > You can try to: > > > > > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo rebuild > > > > > > > > to update the repo index. > > > > > > > > On 1/14/21, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > I'm trying to learn how to recompile a package and put it in a > local > > > > repo. > > > > > I've followed the ips-dev-guide.pdf for setting up the repo, and > the > > > > > "Getting started with the Userland Consolidation" from github. > > > > > I got the package to compile and copy to the repo (gmake publish), > > but > > > > when > > > > > I try to search for that package with "pkg search sudo" I get this > > > error: > > > > > > > > > > pkg: Some repositories failed to respond appropriately: > > > > > ik5pvx-repo: > > > > > file protocol error: code: E_FTP_WEIRD_PASS_REPLY (11) reason: > > Search > > > > > temporarily unavailable. > > > > > Repository URL: 'file:///export/home/ik5pvx/my-repo'. (happened 4 > > > times) > > > > > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > > > > > Pf > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > > > > ___ > > > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > > > > > > ___ > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > > > -- > > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > -- > --- > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local pkg repo error
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:08 PM Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > The "rebuild" did the trick, but how do I specify to pkg to install the > version from my repo instead of the official one? The version is the same > First you need to allow cross-publisher updates: pfexec pkg set-publisher --non-sticky openindiana so that you can update from a package published at openindiana's repo to yours. Then: pfexec pkg update -g /path/to/repo my_package_name Also you can do: pfexec pkg install -g /path/to/repo my_package_fmri where my_package_fmri is the full package identifier that you can copy/paste from the output of gmake publish. > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 8:39 PM Aurélien Larcher < > aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > You can even > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo list > > > > to make sure it was published where you think it was. > > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 8:10 pm Aurélien Larcher, < > aurelien.larc...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > You can try to: > > > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo rebuild > > > > > > to update the repo index. > > > > > > On 1/14/21, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to learn how to recompile a package and put it in a local > > > repo. > > > > I've followed the ips-dev-guide.pdf for setting up the repo, and the > > > > "Getting started with the Userland Consolidation" from github. > > > > I got the package to compile and copy to the repo (gmake publish), > but > > > when > > > > I try to search for that package with "pkg search sudo" I get this > > error: > > > > > > > > pkg: Some repositories failed to respond appropriately: > > > > ik5pvx-repo: > > > > file protocol error: code: E_FTP_WEIRD_PASS_REPLY (11) reason: > Search > > > > temporarily unavailable. > > > > Repository URL: 'file:///export/home/ik5pvx/my-repo'. (happened 4 > > times) > > > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > > > Pf > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > > > ___ > > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --- > > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > > > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > -- > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local pkg repo error
The "rebuild" did the trick, but how do I specify to pkg to install the version from my repo instead of the official one? The version is the same On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 8:39 PM Aurélien Larcher wrote: > You can even > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo list > > to make sure it was published where you think it was. > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 8:10 pm Aurélien Larcher, > > wrote: > > > You can try to: > > > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo rebuild > > > > to update the repo index. > > > > On 1/14/21, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I'm trying to learn how to recompile a package and put it in a local > > repo. > > > I've followed the ips-dev-guide.pdf for setting up the repo, and the > > > "Getting started with the Userland Consolidation" from github. > > > I got the package to compile and copy to the repo (gmake publish), but > > when > > > I try to search for that package with "pkg search sudo" I get this > error: > > > > > > pkg: Some repositories failed to respond appropriately: > > > ik5pvx-repo: > > > file protocol error: code: E_FTP_WEIRD_PASS_REPLY (11) reason: Search > > > temporarily unavailable. > > > Repository URL: 'file:///export/home/ik5pvx/my-repo'. (happened 4 > times) > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > Pf > > > > > > -- > > > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > > ___ > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > > > -- > > --- > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local pkg repo error
You can even pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo list to make sure it was published where you think it was. On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 8:10 pm Aurélien Larcher, wrote: > You can try to: > > pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo rebuild > > to update the repo index. > > On 1/14/21, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm trying to learn how to recompile a package and put it in a local > repo. > > I've followed the ips-dev-guide.pdf for setting up the repo, and the > > "Getting started with the Userland Consolidation" from github. > > I got the package to compile and copy to the repo (gmake publish), but > when > > I try to search for that package with "pkg search sudo" I get this error: > > > > pkg: Some repositories failed to respond appropriately: > > ik5pvx-repo: > > file protocol error: code: E_FTP_WEIRD_PASS_REPLY (11) reason: Search > > temporarily unavailable. > > Repository URL: 'file:///export/home/ik5pvx/my-repo'. (happened 4 times) > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > Pf > > > > -- > > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > -- > --- > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local pkg repo error
You can try to: pkgrepo -s /path/to/repo rebuild to update the repo index. On 1/14/21, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote: > Hello, > I'm trying to learn how to recompile a package and put it in a local repo. > I've followed the ips-dev-guide.pdf for setting up the repo, and the > "Getting started with the Userland Consolidation" from github. > I got the package to compile and copy to the repo (gmake publish), but when > I try to search for that package with "pkg search sudo" I get this error: > > pkg: Some repositories failed to respond appropriately: > ik5pvx-repo: > file protocol error: code: E_FTP_WEIRD_PASS_REPLY (11) reason: Search > temporarily unavailable. > Repository URL: 'file:///export/home/ik5pvx/my-repo'. (happened 4 times) > > What am I doing wrong? > > Pf > > -- > Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] local pkg repo error
Hello, I'm trying to learn how to recompile a package and put it in a local repo. I've followed the ips-dev-guide.pdf for setting up the repo, and the "Getting started with the Userland Consolidation" from github. I got the package to compile and copy to the repo (gmake publish), but when I try to search for that package with "pkg search sudo" I get this error: pkg: Some repositories failed to respond appropriately: ik5pvx-repo: file protocol error: code: E_FTP_WEIRD_PASS_REPLY (11) reason: Search temporarily unavailable. Repository URL: 'file:///export/home/ik5pvx/my-repo'. (happened 4 times) What am I doing wrong? Pf -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:31 PM Hung Nguyen Gia wrote: > You don't have to. I'm bored talking with people doesn't hear me. > > And I also said everything I could say. The decision is up to you. > > No need to kick my ass out of this list. > Thank you, no problem. I understand your frustration. We all have to deal with difficulties and things that do not work... I started working again on the migration to GCC 10 and to Python 3.9 and it is a bit daunting... ;) Cheers, Aurélien On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:25:29 +0700 Aurélien Larcher < > aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> wrote > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:12 PM Hung Nguyen Gia via > openindiana-discuss wrote: > > I have no power to make decisions. But I will show you what I mean when > I said SANE or INSANE. > > > > First, we have to know where we are. The glory of Solaris has faded to > the past. > > > > Today, we are even inferior to FreeBSD! Honestly speaking, if someone > wanted to build a server, both for normal or storage purpose, I would > recommend them to use FreeBSD. > > > > FreeBSD got their ZFS from Illumos, right. But today, FreeBSD's ZFS is > more easy to use and more stable than Illumos! > > > > Not to mention initiative like ZoF. You are left behind. Yes, I know > you will going to go to OpenZFS 2.0, too. > > > > Since there is no where else you could go. You don't have the ability > to maintain ZFS yourself. > > > > Then the only way is to rely on Linux people's work, ZoL, with a fancy > rename to be OpenZFS 2.0, nothing other than ZoL with a bunch of #ifdef for > other minor OSes. > > > > Yes, you are now being a minor OSes. Accept it or not, you are no > longer upstream. Do you feel any shame when it's all reversed? From being > upstream, now just a downstream minority only able to going thanks to the > mercy of the Linux guys? > > > > Not to mention, if it's about a desktop system, what OI is for, OI is > completely inferior to FreeBSD. > > > > Just download GhostBSD, compare, and see. > > > > The BSDs could reject Pale Moon, because they have PLENTY of > alternatives. They have working Firefox, some of them even Chromium. > > > > What do you have now? Are you in a place you could do as them? No way! > > > > Do you able to show me even just a preview version of the Firefox you > are working on? > > > > You can't, do you? > > > > It's SANE to just import Pale Moon into the encumbered repo. They are > plenty of software they install to /opt, doesn't it? Just put Pale Moon and > all of their sh8t shipped libraries there and no one care. > > > > It's INSANE when you don't know what you are and where you are but act > as like you have plenty of choices when indeed you have NONE. You are not > any less ARROGANT than the Pale Moon devs. I think it can only be MORE than > them. > > > > Accept that you are LOSER, and do your best to get back to your place, > it's what SANE people do. > > > > INSANE people talk very much about discipline, 'quality standard', bla > bla... but indeed can deliver nothing! Proving wrong very easy, give me a > preview of your Firefox! But I know, you can't. > > > > Hi, > > there is probably no question that illumos is a minor OS when it comes > to the size of the community; hardware support and software availability is > therefore more limited than systems backed by big companies and a few > hundred developers. > > > > However until now this small community has always been courteous and > friendly. > > > > Could you please make your point in a less offensive manner and > possibly be more constructive? > > > > These mailing lists are a place for people exchanging ideas and > providing help, not for arsonists. > > > > If you cannot cool your jets you'll be sent off the pitch for one week. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Aurélien > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:00:16 +0700 Volker A. Brandt > wrote > > > > > > All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. > > > > > > > > > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon > on OI as > > > > > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for > you -- if > > > > > you pay me will enough, of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people > on my real life. > > > > > > > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At > least they are SANE. > > > > > > With your superior intellect, and your sharp powers of observation, > in a > > > matter of days, you have identified many of the problems the > incompetent > > > and insane OI devs have failed to fix for years. > > > > > > Congratulations! > > > > > > So which one are you going to start working on first? > > > > > > > > > Regards -- Volker > > > -- > > > >
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
You don't have to. I'm bored talking with people doesn't hear me. And I also said everything I could say. The decision is up to you. No need to kick my ass out of this list. On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:25:29 +0700 Aurélien Larcher wrote > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:12 PM Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss > wrote: > I have no power to make decisions. But I will show you what I mean when I > said SANE or INSANE. > > First, we have to know where we are. The glory of Solaris has faded to the > past. > > Today, we are even inferior to FreeBSD! Honestly speaking, if someone > wanted to build a server, both for normal or storage purpose, I would > recommend them to use FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD got their ZFS from Illumos, right. But today, FreeBSD's ZFS is more > easy to use and more stable than Illumos! > > Not to mention initiative like ZoF. You are left behind. Yes, I know you > will going to go to OpenZFS 2.0, too. > > Since there is no where else you could go. You don't have the ability to > maintain ZFS yourself. > > Then the only way is to rely on Linux people's work, ZoL, with a fancy > rename to be OpenZFS 2.0, nothing other than ZoL with a bunch of #ifdef for > other minor OSes. > > Yes, you are now being a minor OSes. Accept it or not, you are no longer > upstream. Do you feel any shame when it's all reversed? From being upstream, > now just a downstream minority only able to going thanks to the mercy of the > Linux guys? > > Not to mention, if it's about a desktop system, what OI is for, OI is > completely inferior to FreeBSD. > > Just download GhostBSD, compare, and see. > > The BSDs could reject Pale Moon, because they have PLENTY of alternatives. > They have working Firefox, some of them even Chromium. > > What do you have now? Are you in a place you could do as them? No way! > > Do you able to show me even just a preview version of the Firefox you are > working on? > > You can't, do you? > > It's SANE to just import Pale Moon into the encumbered repo. They are > plenty of software they install to /opt, doesn't it? Just put Pale Moon and > all of their sh8t shipped libraries there and no one care. > > It's INSANE when you don't know what you are and where you are but act as > like you have plenty of choices when indeed you have NONE. You are not any > less ARROGANT than the Pale Moon devs. I think it can only be MORE than them. > > Accept that you are LOSER, and do your best to get back to your place, it's > what SANE people do. > > INSANE people talk very much about discipline, 'quality standard', bla > bla... but indeed can deliver nothing! Proving wrong very easy, give me a > preview of your Firefox! But I know, you can't. > > Hi, > there is probably no question that illumos is a minor OS when it comes to > the size of the community; hardware support and software availability is > therefore more limited than systems backed by big companies and a few > hundred developers. > > However until now this small community has always been courteous and > friendly. > > Could you please make your point in a less offensive manner and possibly be > more constructive? > > These mailing lists are a place for people exchanging ideas and providing > help, not for arsonists. > > If you cannot cool your jets you'll be sent off the pitch for one week. > > Kind regards, > > Aurélien > > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:00:16 +0700 Volker A. Brandt > wrote > > > > All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. > > > > > > > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI > as > > > > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you > -- if > > > > you pay me will enough, of course. > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on my > real life. > > > > > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least > they are SANE. > > > > With your superior intellect, and your sharp powers of observation, in a > > matter of days, you have identified many of the problems the incompetent > > and insane OI devs have failed to fix for years. > > > > Congratulations! > > > > So which one are you going to start working on first? > > > > > > Regards -- Volker > > -- > > > > Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems > > Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ > > Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: > v...@bb-c.de > > Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 > > Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
On 14.01.21 12:18, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: > Are we sure that Hung Nguyen Gia is not a troll? I think it's time to act, we shouldn't wait until the cows come home. It once completely derailed on the illumos list, probably nobody wants to see that again here. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
I'm sure I can't get what I want, because of my experience so far I know what kind of people you guys are. Just a bunch of DELUSIONAL and ARROGANT people! I continue writing here only because I want to do so. It's not for no reason I said your reasoning are BS. If you really care please have a look again on the entire thread, you could see why. I have build Pale Moon and enjoying it for a long time, thanks to atenian200. You don't have to teach me how to. On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:20:13 +0700 Araragi Hokuto wrote > On 1/14/21 5:50 PM, Hung Nguyen Gia wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 12:34:42 +0700 Araragi Hokuto > > wrote > > > > > The word "job" has different meaning in different places to different > > > people. And in this community, I believe it's normally interpreted as > > > "shipping an OS which uphold to our quality standard", not "serving > > the > > > need of any random person who come and yell at us". > > > > All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. > > Treating other people's word as BS will likely results in other people > treating your word as BS in return. > > > > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI as > > > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you -- > > if > > > you pay me will enough, of course. > > > > > > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on my > > real life. > > > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least they > > are SANE. > > Do we need more people to work with us, and help us get things done? Yes. > > Do we need more people to yell at us asking for what *THEY* want, > treating us with no respect, calling our word BS when we explain our > decision (and the reason behind it), while contributing *LITERALLY > NOTHING* back to us? Probably not. > > Let me remind you: This is an open-source project, provided to you free > of charge (if not, find the person who charged you and take your rant to > them). We take nothing from you, made no contract with you, and we are > not obligated to serve your need or tolerant your disrespect. > > If you still want everything as your wish but doesn't want to spend > money, how about the following options: > > 1) Compile Pale Moon on your own OI installation, and enjoy it. In case > you don't know, we not adding it to our repo won't magically erase it > from your hard drive. > > For other things you want, you can take a similar approach and "fix" > them by yourself. > > 2) Create a fork of OI (or something else, like the unleashed-OS you > mentioned earlier) and ship whatever you want with it. You have the > source code, you can do whatever you want with them -- as long as you > don't violate the license. > > 3) Learn to treat others with respect, and co-op with other people to > find a solution. But judging by your behaviour in this list, I suspect > this is the most difficult option to you -- so I sincerely recommend you > to consider the other two options. > > I can't stop you from keep doing what you're trying to do right now, but > you should've learned that it's pretty unlikely to get what you want in > this way, so choose wisely. > > Have a nice day. > > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:12 PM Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > I have no power to make decisions. But I will show you what I mean when I > said SANE or INSANE. > > First, we have to know where we are. The glory of Solaris has faded to the > past. > > Today, we are even inferior to FreeBSD! Honestly speaking, if someone > wanted to build a server, both for normal or storage purpose, I would > recommend them to use FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD got their ZFS from Illumos, right. But today, FreeBSD's ZFS is > more easy to use and more stable than Illumos! > > Not to mention initiative like ZoF. You are left behind. Yes, I know you > will going to go to OpenZFS 2.0, too. > > Since there is no where else you could go. You don't have the ability to > maintain ZFS yourself. > > Then the only way is to rely on Linux people's work, ZoL, with a fancy > rename to be OpenZFS 2.0, nothing other than ZoL with a bunch of #ifdef for > other minor OSes. > > Yes, you are now being a minor OSes. Accept it or not, you are no longer > upstream. Do you feel any shame when it's all reversed? From being > upstream, now just a downstream minority only able to going thanks to the > mercy of the Linux guys? > > Not to mention, if it's about a desktop system, what OI is for, OI is > completely inferior to FreeBSD. > > Just download GhostBSD, compare, and see. > > The BSDs could reject Pale Moon, because they have PLENTY of alternatives. > They have working Firefox, some of them even Chromium. > > What do you have now? Are you in a place you could do as them? No way! > > Do you able to show me even just a preview version of the Firefox you are > working on? > > You can't, do you? > > It's SANE to just import Pale Moon into the encumbered repo. They are > plenty of software they install to /opt, doesn't it? Just put Pale Moon and > all of their sh8t shipped libraries there and no one care. > > It's INSANE when you don't know what you are and where you are but act as > like you have plenty of choices when indeed you have NONE. You are not any > less ARROGANT than the Pale Moon devs. I think it can only be MORE than > them. > > Accept that you are LOSER, and do your best to get back to your place, > it's what SANE people do. > > INSANE people talk very much about discipline, 'quality standard', bla > bla... but indeed can deliver nothing! Proving wrong very easy, give me a > preview of your Firefox! But I know, you can't. > Hi, there is probably no question that illumos is a minor OS when it comes to the size of the community; hardware support and software availability is therefore more limited than systems backed by big companies and a few hundred developers. However until now this small community has always been courteous and friendly. Could you please make your point in a less offensive manner and possibly be more constructive? These mailing lists are a place for people exchanging ideas and providing help, not for arsonists. If you cannot cool your jets you'll be sent off the pitch for one week. Kind regards, Aurélien > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:00:16 +0700 Volker A. Brandt > wrote > > > > All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. > > > > > > > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI > as > > > > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you > -- if > > > > you pay me will enough, of course. > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on > my real life. > > > > > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least > they are SANE. > > > > With your superior intellect, and your sharp powers of observation, in > a > > matter of days, you have identified many of the problems the > incompetent > > and insane OI devs have failed to fix for years. > > > > Congratulations! > > > > So which one are you going to start working on first? > > > > > > Regards -- Volker > > -- > > > > > Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based > Systems > > Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: > http://www.bb-c.de/ > > Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: > v...@bb-c.de > > Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: > 46 > > Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt > > > > "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" > > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
Are we sure that Hung Nguyen Gia is not a troll? -- Apostolos Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
I have no power to make decisions. But I will show you what I mean when I said SANE or INSANE. First, we have to know where we are. The glory of Solaris has faded to the past. Today, we are even inferior to FreeBSD! Honestly speaking, if someone wanted to build a server, both for normal or storage purpose, I would recommend them to use FreeBSD. FreeBSD got their ZFS from Illumos, right. But today, FreeBSD's ZFS is more easy to use and more stable than Illumos! Not to mention initiative like ZoF. You are left behind. Yes, I know you will going to go to OpenZFS 2.0, too. Since there is no where else you could go. You don't have the ability to maintain ZFS yourself. Then the only way is to rely on Linux people's work, ZoL, with a fancy rename to be OpenZFS 2.0, nothing other than ZoL with a bunch of #ifdef for other minor OSes. Yes, you are now being a minor OSes. Accept it or not, you are no longer upstream. Do you feel any shame when it's all reversed? From being upstream, now just a downstream minority only able to going thanks to the mercy of the Linux guys? Not to mention, if it's about a desktop system, what OI is for, OI is completely inferior to FreeBSD. Just download GhostBSD, compare, and see. The BSDs could reject Pale Moon, because they have PLENTY of alternatives. They have working Firefox, some of them even Chromium. What do you have now? Are you in a place you could do as them? No way! Do you able to show me even just a preview version of the Firefox you are working on? You can't, do you? It's SANE to just import Pale Moon into the encumbered repo. They are plenty of software they install to /opt, doesn't it? Just put Pale Moon and all of their sh8t shipped libraries there and no one care. It's INSANE when you don't know what you are and where you are but act as like you have plenty of choices when indeed you have NONE. You are not any less ARROGANT than the Pale Moon devs. I think it can only be MORE than them. Accept that you are LOSER, and do your best to get back to your place, it's what SANE people do. INSANE people talk very much about discipline, 'quality standard', bla bla... but indeed can deliver nothing! Proving wrong very easy, give me a preview of your Firefox! But I know, you can't. On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:00:16 +0700 Volker A. Brandt wrote > > All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. > > > > > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI as > > > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you -- if > > > you pay me will enough, of course. > > > > > > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on my > > real life. > > > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least they > > are SANE. > > With your superior intellect, and your sharp powers of observation, in a > matter of days, you have identified many of the problems the incompetent > and insane OI devs have failed to fix for years. > > Congratulations! > > So which one are you going to start working on first? > > > Regards -- Volker > -- > > Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems > Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ > Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de > Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 > Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt > > "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Fwd: Re: Just get Pale Moon
Not sure why my mail client didn't reply to the list, but sent a DM instead, so I'll forward it to there. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:20:13 +0800 From: Araragi Hokuto To: Hung Nguyen Gia On 1/14/21 5:50 PM, Hung Nguyen Gia wrote: On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 12:34:42 +0700 Araragi Hokuto wrote > The word "job" has different meaning in different places to different > people. And in this community, I believe it's normally interpreted as > "shipping an OS which uphold to our quality standard", not "serving the > need of any random person who come and yell at us". All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. Treating other people's word as BS will likely results in other people treating your word as BS in return. > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI as > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you -- if > you pay me will enough, of course. > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on my real life. But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least they are SANE. Do we need more people to work with us, and help us get things done? Yes. Do we need more people to yell at us asking for what *THEY* want, treating us with no respect, calling our word BS when we explain our decision (and the reason behind it), while contributing *LITERALLY NOTHING* back to us? Probably not. Let me remind you: This is an open-source project, provided to you free of charge (if not, find the person who charged you and take your rant to them). We take nothing from you, made no contract with you, and we are not obligated to serve your need or tolerant your disrespect. If you still want everything as your wish but doesn't want to spend money, how about the following options: 1) Compile Pale Moon on your own OI installation, and enjoy it. In case you don't know, we not adding it to our repo won't magically erase it from your hard drive. For other things you want, you can take a similar approach and "fix" them by yourself. 2) Create a fork of OI (or something else, like the unleashed-OS you mentioned earlier) and ship whatever you want with it. You have the source code, you can do whatever you want with them -- as long as you don't violate the license. 3) Learn to treat others with respect, and co-op with other people to find a solution. But judging by your behaviour in this list, I suspect this is the most difficult option to you -- so I sincerely recommend you to consider the other two options. I can't stop you from keep doing what you're trying to do right now, but you should've learned that it's pretty unlikely to get what you want in this way, so choose wisely. Have a nice day. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
> All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. > > > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI as > > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you -- if > > you pay me will enough, of course. > > > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on my real > life. > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least they > are SANE. With your superior intellect, and your sharp powers of observation, in a matter of days, you have identified many of the problems the incompetent and insane OI devs have failed to fix for years. Congratulations! So which one are you going to start working on first? Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 12:34:42 +0700 Araragi Hokuto wrote > The word "job" has different meaning in different places to different > people. And in this community, I believe it's normally interpreted as > "shipping an OS which uphold to our quality standard", not "serving the > need of any random person who come and yell at us". All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI as > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you -- if > you pay me will enough, of course. > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on my real life. But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least they are SANE. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] This is for someone said we had desktop/wine for ages
Yeah, I know. You are just missed my previous mails. Someone can't keep track of the thread doesn't have the rights to teach other people how to behave. Remember this. Let me repeat that content for you: SFE has desktop/wine, but it's 1.9.x Tribblix has Wine 4.0, up and running. See the different? And I don't enable the SFE repo on any of my system. Combining the OI's own repos, it just caused a mess. Another thing you forgot, is your system was old and not updated, isn't you? My OI is the latest updated, installed from the latest release. See the different now? And excuse me if the SFE repo has anything to do with OI at all? It's an external repo. How could it count? On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:27:14 +0700 Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote > On 14.01.21 03:02, Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss wrote: > > He just recall from his memory without any fact checks! > > > > Then others come in and 'agreed' with him, my very real concern being > pissed off! > > > > > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/search.shtml?token=wine=Search > > > > > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/en/search.shtml?action=Search=wine=1 > > > Below are two instances of older Opendindiana installations > currently running here on more than 100 machines. > It just happens it's currently not on the newest HIPSTER > because the audio system changed: > > s11(~) uname -a > SunOS imksuns11 5.11 oi_151a9 i86pc i386 i86pc > > s11(~) pkg list | fgrep -i wine > > desktop/wine (sfe-encumbered) 1.7.7-0.151.1.8 i-- > --- > th7(~): uname -a > SunOS imksunth7 5.11 illumos-cf25223258 i86pc i386 i86pc > > th7(~): pkg list | fgrep -i wine > > desktop/wine (localhostoih) 1.9.10-0.0.151.1.8 i-- > --- > Just because *you* don't know, doesn't mean that it does > not exist. STOP your rants, it's really enough ! > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] This is for someone said we had desktop/wine for ages
On 14.01.21 03:02, Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss wrote: > He just recall from his memory without any fact checks! > > Then others come in and 'agreed' with him, my very real concern being pissed off! > > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/search.shtml?token=wine=Search > > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/en/search.shtml?action=Search=wine=1 Below are two instances of older Opendindiana installations currently running here on more than 100 machines. It just happens it's currently not on the newest HIPSTER because the audio system changed: s11(~) uname -a SunOS imksuns11 5.11 oi_151a9 i86pc i386 i86pc s11(~) pkg list | fgrep -i wine desktop/wine (sfe-encumbered) 1.7.7-0.151.1.8 i-- --- th7(~): uname -a SunOS imksunth7 5.11 illumos-cf25223258 i86pc i386 i86pc th7(~): pkg list | fgrep -i wine desktop/wine (localhostoih) 1.9.10-0.0.151.1.8 i-- --- Just because *you* don't know, doesn't mean that it does not exist. STOP your rants, it's really enough ! ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
