Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F

2021-08-14 Thread Stephan Althaus
On 8/13/21 11:13 PM, Carl Brewer wrote:
> On 13/08/2021 11:34 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote:
>>
>> Hi Carl!
>>
>> Assuming still that it is a USB problem...(?)
>> If you have a spare SATA drive, you could write the USB image to that
>> drive and use that to boot - to circumvent all the USB stuff.
>>
>> i think i did that once some years ago.
>
>
> Interesting - how would I do that to make it a bootable drive? I have
> heaps of old SATA drives lying around
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Just write the image to the drive as you would with the usb stick - "dd"
within linux... it will have a partition table and a boot block. The
partition table will not be correct as the disk is in most cases much
bigger as a stick, but it will boot anyway..

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

2021-08-14 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Sat, 14 Aug 2021, Carl Brewer wrote:



Rather than use a couple of 1TB WD red pros or Blacks, is it a good choice to 
run a ZFS root mirror on a couple of SSDs? I figure I'd only need 250MB or 
so, all the data etc will be on spinning drives in a raidZ-something array, 
the root system - apart from swap, will be pretty static read-mostly


So I'm considering running a couple of Samsung 250GB SSDs, any thoughts or 
war stories before I go and buy them? Is it better to stagger them in terms 
of age, or different brands/models so they don't both run out of writes at 
the same time?  Is this setting me up for a disaster in 3 years, or will it 
be predictable and easy to maintain?


As long as the BIOS is happy and finds the devices, there should be no 
problems.  There are not normally a lot of writes to the ZFS root 
pool.  It is wise to make sure that the type of product you choose 
will still exist in the future in case you need to replace it.  SSDs 
may fail for reasons other than excessive writes.


I am using a pair of Samsung 250GB M.2 SATA SSDs for boot for many 
years already (since 2015) with no issues.


Bob
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

2021-08-14 Thread Gary Mills
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 02:35:12PM +1000, Carl Brewer wrote:
> 
> Rather than use a couple of 1TB WD red pros or Blacks, is it a good choice
> to run a ZFS root mirror on a couple of SSDs? I figure I'd only need 250MB
> or so, all the data etc will be on spinning drives in a raidZ-something
> array, the root system - apart from swap, will be pretty static read-mostly

That's my usual configuration.  I use a pair of SSDs in a ZFS mirror
for the root filesystem, with the data on a separate ZFS filesystem.
That way you can replace the OS but retain the data if necessary.
It's never been necessary for me.

> So I'm considering running a couple of Samsung 250GB SSDs, any thoughts or
> war stories before I go and buy them? Is it better to stagger them in terms
> of age, or different brands/models so they don't both run out of writes at
> the same time?  Is this setting me up for a disaster in 3 years, or will it
> be predictable and easy to maintain?

I usually get the smallest SSDs that I can find.  The OS is not very
large.  Depending on the amount of memory the system has, you may need
a large amount of swap space on the SSDs.  Don't skimp.

Using different brands of SSDs is a good idea too, but I've never been
able to do that.

You can get brackets that hold two SSDs but fit into one slot on the
case.  That's a good idea if the case is short of slots.

> I don't think there's any status monitoring software for them that would run
> on OI?

It might already be ported to OI but just not on the USB image.  I
don't know.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

2021-08-14 Thread Carl Brewer

On 14/08/2021 4:45 pm, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote:
In regard to: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root 
mirror?,...:


I don't think there's any status monitoring software for them that 
would run on OI?


I would certainly give smartmontools a try.  Most decent SSDs should
support SMART reporting, as long as they're not hiding behind a 
controller

like a PERC.


I'll give it a go - I just did a test install onto an older WD green SSD 
- but I don't trust that thing for anything except a quick test!


Thank you

Carl




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