[OpenIndiana-discuss] GUI: Services menu command
Hi all, Is it possible to bring back the System | Administration | Services GNOME menu command, pointing to usr/lib/vp-services, which existed in OpenSolaris, but absent in OpenIndiana for some reason? BTW I like the simple layout of this GUI window in OSol 2009.06 and OI 151 (as opposed to newer layout in OSol 134 and Sol11Express). I can add this launcher by hand, but I see no reason not having it in OI 151 by default. When adding the launcher by hand, where can I find an icon for it? Dmitry. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris Express server name broadcast
Helping people != supporting competing product. I will *not* wonder getting support from FreeBSD or OpenBSD community. You *are* not wonder getting support from e.g. Alan Coopersmith - Sol 11 Express developer (AFAIK). Any FOSS initiative has it's roots in helping people. - previous message - I do not think that a FOSS project community has any moral imperative to act as a support channel for a commercial product. Nor another competing FOSS project, for that matter. To illustrate, I think most would agree that it would be impolite at the minimum, if not downright ludicrous, for me to expect support for FreeBSD from an OpenBSD list just because they both derive from a common heritage. / There hasn't been a hostile attitude so far and we shouldn't start now! // // So lets agree to all be friendly to each other. / Bayard put it well. I think politely pointing S11 users to appropriate support channels would fall under the umbrella of friendliness. If for whatever reason, those channels don't meet their needs, then they should take that under consideration when choosing an OS platform. To reiterate, lest some misinterpret, this does not equate to, nor advocate, hostility. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Odd pkg problem
You can download and install the latest JDK from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html Dmitry. On 21.02.2011 5:27, Frank Middleton wrote: Trying to set up a new amd64 server for doing Illumos builds and ran into this... # pkg install developer/java/jdk Creating Plan /pkg: No matching version of developer/java/jdk can be installed: pkg://openindiana.org/developer/java/jdk@0.5.11,5.11-0.148:20101125T003225Z: This version is excluded by installed incorporation pkg://opensolaris.org/consolidation/ub_javavm/ub_javavm-incorporation@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T010731Z # pkg uninstall pkg://opensolaris.org/consolidation/ub_javavm/ub_javavm-incorporation@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T010731Z Creating Planpkg: Cannot remove 'pkg://opensolaris.org/consolidation/ub_javavm/ub_javavm-incorporation@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T010731Z' due to the following packages that depend on it: pkg://openindiana.org/entire@0.5.11,5.11-0.147:20100914T054011Z pkg://opensolaris.org/runtime/java@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T044237Z # uname -a SunOS apogee16 5.11 oi_148 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris AFAICT everything else looks good. Any suggestions? Thanks -- Frank ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New IRC logs
The map with flashing locations is something :) Don't think that IRC logs are much readable though. On 20.02.2011 21:11, Deano wrote: Hi, The nice man at echelog.matzon.dk, hosts nicely presented IRC logs for various open source projects, I asked him to add OI which he has now done. So for those who either can't hang on IRC all day or just prefer reading at your leisure, there are now links off the wiki at http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/IRC+Chat for both #openindiana and #oi-dev Plus you get to see where in the world we are all chatting from! Also we now have a twitter feed on the website's front page, its linked to #openindiana hashtag, so please twitter about anything related to OI, so others can see how useful it is J Thanks, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] JRE/JDK 6u24 released for security patches
Thanks for the alert. I have updated my JRE on my OSol 2010.03 (though it was a bit tricky and involved manual folder rename/move). The box is used for production as a web and ftp server. This issue have forced me to look again at OpenSUSE - I am thinking of migrating to it while OpenIndiana is not yet matured enough and not yet receiving critical security patches in time. There is no Java at all by default in OpenSUSE (and maybe in all other Linuxes). No Java, no (this) vulnerability. Other security holes are patched in time (I think). No Java, no ZFS, no a lot other great stuff... But it will do web and ftp for me... Still with OSol yet :) Cannot just waste the favorite OS. Dmitry. On 18.02.2011 6:29, Ivan Wang wrote: Hi list, Not sure if the vulnerability does actually affect solaris based systems. But Oracle advises to update JRE/JDK to 6u24 to pick up patches preventing remote exploit. Here is the link: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/javacpufeb2011-304611.html Any plan to bump Java version in oi ips repo? Cheers, Ivan. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana mailing list
Hi, To whom it may concern. The link to OpenIndiana mailing list (http://openindiana.org/mailman) should be added somewhere at the main page. Currently the only way to find the mailing list (at least which I could find) is way too long and hidden: Documentation - FAQ - Where can I get more info or keep up to date with the project? - Please join our mailing lists – http://openindiana.org/mailman;. Could it be e.g. Support - Mailing lists ? Dmitry. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS mirror or stripe support on boot volume
As far as I know, this isn't the case. You simply cannot select 2 disks - only one is selectable. IMHO this feature must be implemented, but not yet. I don't know if someone is working on this. You can add a mirror to rpool after the installation - see http://www.nickebo.net/making-your-zfs-root-pool-a-mirror-post-installation/ for example. Dmitry. During installation, just select 2 disks and they're automatically mirrored (last I knew.) ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana mailing list
Sorry for this. On 16.02.2011 4:40, Ken Gunderson wrote: It would be nice if you would start a new message rather than replying to existing and merely changing subject, as the latter practice messes up threading. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Checksums wrong on downloads page
Indeed. Live USB for dd, 1.0G and Text Install USB for dd, 550M marked having exactly the same checksums. Must be an error in download page. On 15.02.2011 0:15, Brian Rossmajer wrote: the sums on the download page are the same for both live USB for dd images ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] nwam
Thumbs up! :) On 05.02.2011 23:40, Lou Picciano wrote: Friends don't let friends use NWAM ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Need good beginner guide to network configuration in OpenIndiana/OpenSolaris with NWAM
Sorry for replying to myself... Typo - even, not event... On 06.02.2011 4:18, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: You're right in general. However there are networks where static IP addresses may be unavailable. You event don't change the network or location, but cannot have static IP address. On 05.02.2011 19:04, Gary Driggs wrote: Nwam is, in my opinion, a hindrance unless you have a mobile system that changes networks frequently ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to work
Actually, I respect people who know which files to modify and how, especially using vi. I wish people would call *me* old-fashioned :) On 28.01.2011 22:51, Matt Wilby wrote: Call me old fashioned, but I like my vi :-) On 28/01/2011 17:43, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: That is, change your tambourine dance style :) There is also modern fashioned way via GUI. On 28.01.2011 22:00, Matt Wilby wrote: Rather than using ipadm, you can also do it the old fashioned way by creating /etc/hostname.interface and inserting the required hostname from /etc/hosts. Where hostname can be something like bge0, e1000g0, eri0, hme0 etc. Matt On 28/01/2011 16:31, Deano wrote: My notes on static ip (not using NWAM) under OI from the default DHCP Update /etc/resolv.conf WITH DNS /etc/nsswitch.dns /etc/nsswitch.conf Update /etc/defaultrouter with GATEWAY route -p add default GATEWAY Update /etc/hosts svcadm disable network/physical:nwam svcadm enable network/physical:default ipadm create-addr -T static -a HOSTNAME/24 LINK_NAME HTH, Deano -Original Message- From: Daniel Kvasnička [mailto:daniel.kvasnicka...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 January 2011 16:13 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to work Hi people, I'm trying to setup OpenIndiana b148 to use static IPv4 address and manually set up DNS servers. And I can't even ping my gateway. The problem is that the only acces to the machine I have is through VNC to the QEMU instance it runs in. Here is the link to screenshots showing what I've done with nwamcfg so far: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/1967301/1/oi?h=bfc6e1 I've also: - checked /etc/resolv.conf for nameserver entries - ensured dns is entered in /etc/nsswitch.conf in appropriate places - entered appropriate line in /etc/nwam/llp (e1000g0 static xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/24) - checked that my gateway is in /etc/defaultrouter - tried to set 255.255.255.0 as mask using ifconfig, because ifconfig -a showed the mask is set to ff00 What the hell am I doing wrong? :) Can the problem be somewhere outside the system? As I've said. It's a virtual instance running in a VM and I have no way to check the VM settings myself. Dan ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to work
I am talking about local GUI, not remote web-based administration. There are some useful admin tools in Gnome like network setup and start/stop services. System | Administration | Network and System | Administration | Services - just two examples. On 28.01.2011 23:29, Gary Gendel wrote: Does napp-it suit the bill? How about Webmn? On 1/28/11 1:09 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: On 01/28/11 09:27, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: So I vote for (stable) Server GUI distribution of OI. A GUI server version seems good; it directly competes with other gui server OS. whatever was decided may seem currently a great idea and easy , however, it may not fit what businesses demand of a product for long term use and be replaced for a product that may be popular at the moment. Regards Edward ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
Hi Gabriel, I am using GUI for the following: - Start/stop services such as Web and FTP daemons. I do not know if Web interface exists for this task; - Unzip files from a flash drive and copy them to desired locations (such as Web and FTP document roots); Change access mode for the files. Drag-drop and right-click. All requires mouse only. Of course I could learn a couple of commands to do all that via command-line, but have no time to do that. Why bother if there are GUI and mouse? They were invented to make life easier. Why not use them? Yet my server is the only computer which I can use at work. I eventually using web browser at it. Regards, Dmitry. On 18.01.2011 12:35, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Hi, a question for the ones wanting a gui server; is there something else not offered by the apps web interfaces that you would really need to administer the server? Once uppon a time, Solaris 10 running the Java desktop environment was offering some comfortable graphical tools... but nowadays I believe there are web guis for those... I have tendency to ssh tunnel X11 in order to execute a few server apps like the dhcp gui... so a little bit of X11 libraries, wont feel so bad. by the way, if anyone has a good idea how to implement a new kind of Openindiana administrative web gui tool, for example in order to handle some config settings, I could give a hand with the web interface. Cheers On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Gary Millsmi...@cc.umanitoba.ca wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 09:13:18PM +0100, Guido Berhoerster wrote: Adding additional packages is a different story and we are currently working on the procedures and infrastructure to provide an addon consolidation (see http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/OpenIndiana+Addon+Consolidations) I'm very pleased to see that. It should allow many people to contribute to openindiana, and do so independantly. I'm packaging a product now, into both SVR4 and IPS forms, with the intent that it will run on Solaris 10, Solaris 11 Express, and Openindiana, for both SPARC and x86. One thing I don't favour is installing packages from the Extra consolidation into a unique directory, /usr/oie in this document. That doesn't prevent name collisions, but just delays them. Once you add /usr/oie/bin to your PATH, duplicate names will be hidden anyway. I'd prefer to install them in standard locations, and to eliminate duplicates explicitly. That sounds great, if you want to contribute packages today, the best solution would be to add tem to SFE (http://pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/spec-files-extra/) since it allows others to easily build your contributed package and since SFE is likely to become one of our upstream projects where we might import packages from at a later time. Is this only a repository of spec files, or is it an IPS repository too? I would like to see an independant repository of IPS packages. -- -Gary Mills--Unix Group--Computer and Network Services- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
Would be cool if OI would contain a full set of web-based administration tools. From the other side, the more interfaces, the more security holes :) On 18.01.2011 17:25, Robin Axelsson wrote: How about using django (http://www.djangoproject.com/) for developing web-based administration applications for IO? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Package dependencies
+1 On 18.01.2011 21:26, Deano wrote: I'll start building a table of what a minimal install My current plan (tho a newbie at IPS so...) is to take the minimal zone install as the base ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
No! (the vote has begun :) I feel that Live CD is still a server OS. I suggest names like - Gnome distribution; (Actually Live CD is even better name - it gives an idea that you can boot from CD not touching your HDD content); - Command line distribution. Dmitry. On 17.01.2011 16:16, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Thank you very much for such a detailed response, actually yes, Openindiana-desktop, is more clear than the LiveCD, it makes sense. I will read the links you sent. Thanks again for all your work. BR Gab On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Alasdair Lumsdenalasdai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gabriel, On 01/17/11 10:07 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Thanks! A place to start is a place to start, and an stable server release is the most urgent one among all the other options. Great - thanks for the feedback! Some people is talking about the server-desktop question, I particularly liked the old Solaris software groups concept (reduced network, core, end user, entire)... woulnt it be posible to have a non stable distro featuring the full range of up to date software, and a stable conservative one (behind in innovation but ahead in stability) allowing to either just keep the fully suported core of software or to add as well a less supported desktop enviroment?. Wouldnt this be almost same effort, example: Well, the thing is, this is already the case. All people have to do is use the Text Installer ISO (Or the Automated Installer ISO) - this installs a much smaller subset of software which doesn't include the full Gnome desktop software. Effectively the text installer ISO is the server release and the Live CD ISO is the desktop release. Perhaps we need to name them such to avoid the confusion, as it seems a lot of people on-list are confused about this. Unfortunately the Text Installer still installs quite a fat install, due to some packaging that needs improvement. Alan Coopersmith pointed us at some bugs on bugs.opensolaris.org related to this which was pretty helpful: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010355 - splitting tk bindings out of the core python package http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010324 - splitting X apps out of the core groff package http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6574610 - splitting glib out of the gnome-base-libs package The only differences between a server install and a desktop install are the packages installed, and they're already split up into fairly reasonable incorporations. I think the situation with OpenSolaris only having a graphical LiveCD for so long has led people to think that OpenSolaris and thus OpenIndiana is mainly a desktop OS. So I am starting to think that we should rename the Live CD to OpenIndiana-Desktop and the Text Installer to OpenIndiana-Server. Ideally the graphical installer, Caiman, would let you choose which package incorporations to install. But unfortunately I think it does a dumb install from a cpio archive. Perhaps refactoring of Caiman is needed, where the Live CD ships with a pkg repo, starts a pkg server, and does an install from that. Not sure how feasible this would be. Given how complete pkg is, probably not all that hard. Cheers, Alasdair ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
Please count my vote for this also. I am using OSol as a server, but it is much easier for me to administer it using GUI. On 15.01.2011 15:37, hairryharry wrote: My plea is please not to ignore the desktop/home user, yes we are in the minority please ensure we can still access a reasonably stable desktop. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
Alasdair, I understand that the proposed stable branch would be minimalistic to save developer time an effort, but isn't there a danger of the opposite - that having two branches would nearly double the labor amount? Dmitry. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
That is, no GUI? On 15.01.2011 1:36, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: We would only provide the Text Installer and Automated Installer ISOs. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] General ZFS questions (Michelle Knight)
IMHO this means that there were no errors in sectors which were actually read between zpool status commands, but there were errors in sectors which were not read (only scrub have read them). On 13.01.2011 19:31, Robin Axelsson wrote: While I've never had any checksum errors explicitly reported when issuing zpool status command, most scrubs have led to a certain amount of Kilobytes of data having to be repaired on one or two drives. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mouse pointers - the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
and moving the folder into ${HOME}/.icons/
It worked! Nice theme (Neutral Plus Inverted). Before login I can see
black arrow pointer and wristwatch. After login - white arrow and the
please wait pointer is nice, though not wristwatch. I am completely
satisfied with the desktop now.
Thanks Guido!
To person(s) responsible for this - I suggest including the Neutral Plus
Inverted mouse theme in the OI distribution (at least not as default).
- Dmitry.
On 22.12.2010 22:27, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
* Dmitry G. Kozhinovd...@desktopfay.com [2010-12-22 17:38]:
http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/70481-Neutral_Plus_Inv.tar.gz
Almost what I want... But no wristwatch. And forgive me my
ignorance, I cannot figure out how to install this.
Sorry, don't know about the wristwatch. You can install a cursor
or icon teme by extracting it and moving the folder into
${HOME}/.icons/. In order to select it, start the Appearance
Preference tool and go to Theme - Customize - Pointer.
Haven't seen earlier OpenSUSE versions, but what it's there now is
exactly what in OI 148. This is why I call it Linux-like. I think
that I have to get used to what is included into a distro (be that
OSol, OI, or 11).
No, you can easily download themes from websites such as
http://gnome-look.org/ and install them through the Apperance
Prefrenece tool.
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mouse pointers - the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Hi all, In OpenSolaris 2009.06 there were nice mouse pointers. Eventually they gone bad in 2010.03 and 11 Express (cannot understand why). Obviously to fix these, in OpenIndiana build 148 we see the third breed of them (taken from Linux?). I don't like these - the arrow has too sharp tips, and the hand is simply awful. Classical wristwatch pointer replaced with some wheel. How can I get 2009.06 pointers back? Aren't they a part of Nimbus theme? I don't want my OI installation to look like Linux. See http://www.iconedit2.com/cursors.gif http://www.iconedit2.com/cursors.gif - Dmitry. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
