Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Looking for capable notebook for OI and other OSes, small size and with real network.

2013-03-26 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
If you find a good option I would like to know. The last good laptop I have 
personally used that worked great with open Indiana was my Lenovo T61p from 
2008. I still have it and it works well though it is a bit dated and big.

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Hans J. Albertsson hans.j.alberts...@branneriet.se wrote:

I've been looking at possible choices for a small note-book for OI and 
some sort of Windows in dual boot, possibly even an ultrabook thingie.

However, I keep running into disappointments:

The biggest one is the apparent scarcity of proper high-capacity GB 
wired ethernet.

Also, if I'd like to run such a thing under some Illumos based OS, I'd 
have to think very carefully.

I sort of liked the Dell XPS 13 Linux Developer's Edition; small, full 
HD screen, nice kbd, very thin and fairly large SSD disk.

But, running it under OI151a7??? I think that might be a bit unlikely to 
succeed!

So, what advice can people give me on this subject?

The Dell XPS 13 is the right price range, around €1000.
The size is very nice, the screen is VERY good..

So, there's a nice exterior target type, but what if I absolutely 
require to run OI and have a proper network connector, and PXE capacity?
And MUST run OI, with working wired network and graphics accel.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] opensolaris.org shutting down next month

2013-02-15 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
And it can go away at any time. If they change robots.txt to block spiders they 
will remove content. That happened to an old site I had in the 90s that they 
archived. I let domain go and new owners did that and archive blocked or purged 
my sites pages.

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Hugh McIntyre li...@mcintyreweb.com wrote:

Is this going to be any different from www.archive.org, which already 
exists and has a full archive of the Internet, including opensolaris.org?

See http://web.archive.org/web/*/opensolaris.org.

Of course this does not guarantee to include active content that rely on 
server-side scripting, but then you won't get this with wget either.

Hugh.


On 2/14/13 4:16 PM, Lázaro wrote:
 somebody could make a

 wget -m http://www.opensolaris.org/ (or wherever the archive is)

 pack all the content and send it to me (s, don't tell it to nobody)
 Then, here, in the Caribean's Pirate land I could put it in a friend's
 public web server :D

 all the knowledge (in a poor and cheap format) would be saved


 Greetings

 Jack Sparrows


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ssh root login

2013-01-12 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
Don't forget by default root is not a regular user account. Or at least it 
didn't used to be. You may need to issue the command to make root a full 
account before you can ssh to the root account.

Also, depending on what you're doing, you might consider ssh to a regular user 
and then escalate via sudo or pfexex instead of ssh to the root user directly.

Greg


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Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Serge Fonville wrote:

 It took me 2 minutes to set it up, succesfully

 The steps I took:

 create key using ssh-keygen
 edit sshd_config and set PermitRootLogin to yes
 restarted sshd
 added the public key to authorized_keys
 specified the private key in the connection

 I tried with and without and empty root password

 What did you do different?

As far as I know, that is what I did.

Various other people have experienced similar Solaris related issues. 
These postings suggest editing /etc/pam.conf.  Neither edit worked for 
me:

http://snltd.co.uk/snippets/index.php?c=vsn=ssh_as_root.phpPHPSESSID=25648260eca8ea5afc1e120278b2b1f6

http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/geekery/solaris-10-sshd-publickey-solution.html

If it makes any difference, I am using OpenIndiana oi_151a7 on the 
server host.  Ssh on the server host identifies itself as

Sun_SSH_1.5, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090818f

And the ssh client (Solaris 10) is

Sun_SSH_1.1.5, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090704f

I am only using files+DNS for configuration.  No LDAP, NIS, or 
anything fancy like that.

Bob
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Tribblix update

2012-12-16 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood

Don't know what the current state is but window maker had wdm that used to work 
pretty well. Disclaimer, used to maintain it briefly on Linux 10 or so years 
ago.

Greg
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Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:

On 12/16/12 11:48 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
 
 On Dec 16, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Peter Tribble wrote:
 [...]
 I'm keeping a keen eye on other lightweight desktops. E17 builds
 with very little effort, and the full E17 release is just around the
 corner. It would be nice to have LXDE and awesome available as
 well. I'm still looking for a viable graphical login manager.
 
 Since Open Group released CDE source, there's always dtlogin. :-)
 
 Unfortunately, last I heard it only built on Linux and FreeBSD - the source 
 released does NOT correspond to what any particular vendor supplied, let 
 alone provide much clue how they built their variants.

dtlogin was definitely one of the CDE areas that Sun customized/forked a lot
from the TOG upstream.

If you've pulled the entire X consolidation, then you have xdm for whatever
that's worth.   I've also heard a lot of people talking about lightdm as a
good path off of gdm.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
WindowMaker sounds good. Used it for a while a few years ago. Been thinking 
about looking at it again. :) 

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Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:



On Thursday, November 01, 2012 03:01 AM, Ben Taylor wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, openbabelopenba...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I am of a commercial view. I am interested in the most popular desktop and
 most developed environment which is accepted by the current or potential
 user base.It would not be the correct choice
 going with a project which either peters out or is not accepted by
 commercial users as this would waste development time and resource too?

 As an Enterprise system the commercial view should prevail?
 My suggestion, as someone who spent an inordinate amount of time porting KDE 
 4.x
 to Solaris 10, go with something simple and easy.

 Once there's a working DE, folks can then choose to work/port other
 more complex DE's.



What has the least dependencies? XFCE? KDE 3.5? Or forget DE and just 
get a window manager like WindowMaker?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS; what the manuals don't say ...

2012-10-23 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
Probably should use find -type f to limit to files and also cp -a to maintain 
permissions and ownership. Not sure if the will maintain ACLs.

For the truly paranoid, dont delete the original file so early, rename it, move 
the temp file back as the original filename, then compare md5 or sha checksums 
to make sure they are the same, only deleting the original file if the two sums 
match.

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Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk r...@karlsbakk.net wrote:

 Wouldn't walking the filesystem, making a copy, deleting the original
 and renaming the copy balance things?
 
 e.g.
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 LIST=`find /foo -type d`
 
 for I in ${LIST}
 do
 
 cp ${I} ${I}.tmp
 rm ${I}
 mv ${I}.tmp ${I}
 
 done

or perhaps

# === rewrite.sh ===
#!/bin/bash

$fn=$1
$newfn=$fn.tmp

cp $fn $newfn
rm -f $fn
mv $newfn $fn
# === rewrite.sh ===

find /foo -type f -exec /path/to/rewrite.h {} \;

Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
I took a different approach to do something very similar. I used an env file 
where all the executable locations were defined and also built a few aliases. I 
then used uname to detect the os and source the appropriate file. Wrapped that 
in a single file something so my scripts started with . ~/bin/loadenvexes.sh 
and I was good to go. Worked well across sol/osol/oi, Mac, and several flavors 
of Linux.

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Reginald Beardsley pulask...@yahoo.com wrote:



--- On Wed, 10/17/12, Udo Grabowski (IMK) udo.grabow...@kit.edu wrote:

 From: Udo Grabowski (IMK) udo.grabow...@kit.edu
 Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr
 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 10:11 AM
 On 17/10/2012 16:50, Reginald
 Beardsley wrote:
  In chasing the Firefox/Java issue, I happened to look
 at the symlinks in /usr.  I'm rather disturbed by what
 I find.
  
  There are 15715 in my installation of oi_151a.
  ...
  Yes, it is painful to force people to fix their
 scripts, but in the end, indulging bad behavior just makes
 the problem worse.
  Having written scripts that ran cleanly across Ultrix,
 SunOS, AIX, HPUX, Irix and more I know it's not hard to do
 things w/o
  resorting to polluting the system namespace w/
 bandaids.
  
 
 This is for people running heterogenous systems, like old
 Osol
 combined with new OI, or for people upgrading from Osol to
 OI
 for not having trouble with scripts after upgrade, and
 problems
 with configure setups for software (on solaris you usually
 have
 to patch configure scripts, and it's a pain to redo this on
 every upgrade). So having these symlinks is a good thing,
 and
 when these old systems gradually die away, people will
 adapt
 their scripts, but at least up to the next stable release
 of
 OI these links should be kept. As there's usually not much
 left in
 these legacy directories, they will quickly become a simple
 symlink to the default places.

To paraphrase your response:

These links are good because they keep people from having to fix badly 
written scripts.

When there are more symlinks people will fix their scripts.

It's been my observation that rather than fix the badly written scripts, they 
just write more badly written scripts and the problem gets worse rather than 
better.

The following *really* isn't a lot of work the first time, and it's easy to 
fix when it does break.  When I was writing scripts that needed to run across 
6 distinct flavors of Unix, I had a boilerplate file I placed at the start of 
the scripts to handle all this stuff.   Typically took about 10-15 minutes to 
update all the path information for a new platform and that was for a version 
control and build system I wrote.

if [ -e /usr/sfw/bin/fubar ]
   then
   FUBAR=/usr/sfw/bin/fubar

elif [ -e /usr/bin/fubar ]
   then
   FUBAR=/usr/bin/fubar

else
   echo Can't find fubar
   exit

fi


As for ./configure,  setting PATH properly will take care of most of those.  
The ones it won't fix generally can't be fixed.

Reg

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