Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future
On Nov 1, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: Gnome 2 is perfect (apart from a few annoying bugs), Gnome3/Unity would be a drawback indeed, and nobody here wants to go back to such basic stuff as xfce and other incapable desktop systems (KDE may would be an option). As long as gtk3 is not needed by any programs in use, there's no need to really do work in the gnome packages, apart from some fixes. Schillix OS shows that this can be handled even with just two people, so I don't see that this sucks up significant manpower. This is a very informative contribution. Thank you for taking the time. I do want to ask, though: what is missing from Xfce that classifies it in your eyes as an incapable desktop? That's a pretty loaded statement and I think it deserves some explanation. My direct interest in your answer is actually because I'm cobbling together a package building system mostly for my OmniOS zones, but I expect to be running OI on my next laptop so I have a vested interest in having a stable and up to date desktop environment stack. It's been a couple of years since I ran anything but OS X on the desktop so while my recollection of Xfce is that it's a stable and complete DE, I'm ready to be corrected if there's an objective reason to not focus on bringing it to OI. The current Gnome on OI works, there's absolutely no reason to delete that from OI. Now that is something I can take issue with. While it may be perfectly usable, it's rather archaic. The DE is the first impression that many have of OI, and this is rather like going to Wal*mart (in the USA) and being greeted by an octogenarian in a blue smock. The senior citizen may do a fine job, but where's the appeal for newcomers? So you can put Lance Henrikson up front, or Miranda Kerr. I know which one I'd rather have greeting me. :) Nobody wants Linux I'll avoid the complete fallacy of that statement and merely point out that nobody is talking about Linux; we're talking about DE's. Please accept that there are people that are doing much more with OI than just running a home NAS server with music and videos. We still feel that we are a legitimate part of the OI/illumos community, and not just a legacy (yes, I know, the desktop is dead, blablabla…). Want to adopt the Gnome 2 collection? :) I'm building out some infrastructure for package building and will likely be putting together an Xfce collection. I think it would be really grand if more OI users figured out how to do this and started putting together (and maintaining!) collections for things like their favorite DE. -Magnus ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:27:59 -0400, låzaro netad...@lex-sa.cu wrote: Hi all, as many people don't wanna see, gnome future is like a submarine without roof. So, my question. What about make the new gnome's fork as default desktop enviroment, just like is making linux mint. OI always have the step in the next time. That project look like very good with a lot of good toys... I suspect a lot of this decision is going to fall on whoever actually is willing to do the work to get it working and maintain it. I'm not there yet. That said, if there is going to be an overhaul of the DE, might I suggest Xfce for consideration? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:25:13 +, openbabel openba...@gmail.com wrote: As an Enterprise system the commercial view should prevail? This is based on the false premise that OpenIndiana is an enterprise desktop operating system. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future
I never suggested stopping DE development. I merely suggested that thinking of OI as an enterprise desktop OS is trying to sell an idea that enterprises aren't going to buy. I'm actually going to switch from Mac to OI laptop after the holidays (getting crazier with age). Sent from my typewriter On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Maxim Kondratovich maxim@gmail.com wrote: So why OI has DE at all? Leading to your logic community has to cut off DE from distribution at all... And what we will have? Another one illumos based server distribution?! I see OI as OS for general purposes, so stopping development in DE will decrease value of OI. Yes, community is to small but we have to find compromise and community will grow up. P.S. I'm not an active OI developer, but I help with testing and I'm going to contribute as developer at future. - Maxim Julius Roberts wrote: On 1 November 2012 02:33, mag...@yonderway.com wrote: This is based on the false premise that OpenIndiana is an enterprise desktop operating system. +1. There are alot of very useful desktop operating systems already, so i see no point in OI trying to compete with them. In business speak OI has a sustainable competitive advantage with ZFS, zones, dtrace, etc etc and those alone are why most people will be attracted to OI. Our OI servers sit in various computer rooms and we talk to them exclusively over ssh, if it didn't feature a GUI we wouldn't notice or care. I wonder how many other OI users feel similarly? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Migration to HP N40L
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:03:05 +0100, Michelle Knight miche...@msknight.com wrote: So I would like to know what other people have experienced regarding the legacy USB on the N40L, and also if there are any command line settings that I can use (assuming that legacy USB is possible) in order to get the existing installation to work on the N40L please. I suspect that you've been hoisted by your own petard with all of the tweaks made. My N40L is running the stock BIOS. The only changes I've made: * Delete 2GB RAM * Install 8GB RAM * Delete 250G HDD * Install 4x 2TB HDD (2x Western Digital Caviar Black, 2x Western Digital Red) I've run three different illumos distros on this box without issue. I'm currently running SmartOS on it from a USB stick, but I've installed OpenIndiana on it from both USB stick and USB Bluray drive. I've also installed OmniOS on it from USB Bluray drive. I'd be tempted to rollback on the changes you made and methodically push forward, one change at a time, until it breaks. The N40L out of the box should just work. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] AMD “Piledriver” FX-8350 on OpenIndiana
On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: If anyone else is thinking of using these with OpenIndiana: http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/2012/10/24/amd-piledriver-fx-8350-on-openindiana/ Good to know, thanks. Yes, I was just looking at that processor last night and considering it. It does seem to be an incredible bargain. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [TOOLS] memconf
Also check out the ruby gem ohai. It's more typically used to collect intel for Chef but it works great as a standalone tool. Provides verbose output about your system configuration in JSON format for easy machine parsing. On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Roel_D wrote: I needed some info about my memory modules and almost forgot this beautiful script called memconf. http://www.4schmidts.com/memconf.html I don't know if mr Schmidts is on this mailinglist, but this script is a must have. (for me as a dummy) ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [TOOLS] memconf
### install ohai
magnus@dogface:~$ sudo gem install ohai
Successfully installed ohai-6.14.0
1 gem installed
Installing ri documentation for ohai-6.14.0...
Installing RDoc documentation for ohai-6.14.0...
magnus@dogface:~$
### Ruby gems aren't installed in the default $PATH.
magnus@dogface:~$ /var/ruby/1.8/gem_home/bin/ohai ohai.out
### ohai collects a lot of data so will take a few moments to run.
You can less ohai.out after running the above example and find neat
things about physical memory like (and there is a lot more where this came
from):
memory_device: {
form_factor: 9 (DIMM),
size: 4294967296 bytes,
total_width: 72 bits,
memory_error_data: Not Supported,
set: None,
memory_type: 1 (other),
all_records: [
{
Form Factor: 9 (DIMM),
record_id: 22,
Total Width: 72 bits,
Memory Error Data: Not Supported,
Serial Number: SerNum00,
size: 95,
Set: None,
Part Number: ModulePartNumber00,
Size: 4294967296 bytes,
Device Locator: DIMM0,
Memory Type: 1 (other),
Physical Memory Array: 20,
Location Tag: DIMM0,
application_identifier: memory device,
Data Width: 64 bits,
Manufacturer: Manufacturer00,
Bank Locator: BANK0,
Speed: Unknown,
Flags: {
SMB_MDF_SYNC: synchronous
}
},
{
Form Factor: 9 (DIMM),
record_id: 24,
Total Width: 72 bits,
Memory Error Data: Not Supported,
Serial Number: SerNum01,
size: 95,
Set: None,
Part Number: ModulePartNumber01,
Size: 4294967296 bytes,
Device Locator: DIMM1,
Memory Type: 1 (other),
Physical Memory Array: 20,
Location Tag: DIMM1,
application_identifier: memory device,
Data Width: 64 bits,
Manufacturer: Manufacturer01,
Bank Locator: BANK1,
Speed: Unknown,
Flags: {
SMB_MDF_SYNC: synchronous
}
}
],
physical_memory_array: 20,
speed: Unknown,
data_width: 64 bits
},
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:34:36 +0200, Roel_D openindi...@out-side.nl
wrote:
Can you provide a howto for this ohai?
Although I hate to install special software on my global zone
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [TOOLS] memconf
Also check out the ruby gem ohai. It's more typically used to collect
intel for Chef but it works great as a standalone tool. Provides verbose
output about your system configuration in JSON format for easy machine
parsing.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Roel_D wrote:
I needed some info about my memory modules and almost forgot this
beautiful script called memconf.
http://www.4schmidts.com/memconf.html
I don't know if mr Schmidts is on this mailinglist, but this script is
a must have. (for me as a dummy)
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris cp problems
On Sep 24, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Sebastian Gabler wrote: PS: I am using the Solaris cp command to have an easy way to preserve file attributes moving a share from one pool to the other of my CIFS server. rsync would do a better job of that generally speaking. But if it's a whole zfs filesystem, the zfs send/receive dance may be better suited. -M ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write support on Illumos -- interest levels?
On Sep 15, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Roel_D wrote: create a ZFS drive in OI, create an iSCSI target on it, join it from your Apple, Format it as you wish, create a backupplan voor your ZFS drive/slice, done? The iSCSI initiator for OS X is no longer free software. Unless there is another one that I'm not aware of, this plan of action would cost the end user about $80 for the initiator software. It's a sad turn of events for Mac users but what can you do? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write support on Illumos -- interest levels?
On Sep 15, 2012, at 12:19 AM, Dave Pooser wrote: At $DAYJOB we have a need to get files from Mac-formatted (HFS+) volumes from video record appliances onto ZFS-based storage towers (because when you're talking about the only video recordings of a major corporate meeting, probably OK filesystems aren't enough). Right now we do it via a Mac -- hook drive to Mac, mount ZFS filesystem via CIFS, and copy-- but that's a bit of a pain in the rear; it would be a lot easier to be able to hook drives directly to an OI tower and copy the files that way. I I know we're supposed to be promoting Illumos solutions and whatnot, but why not run ZFS directly on your Macs? It won't work for the boot drive but it'll work for the external storage you're attaching. You can zfs send | zfs receive to an OI tower for deep archiving if you'd prefer. http://zevo.getgreenbytes.com -M ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Interest in OpenIndiana VPS host?
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:59:59 +, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) openindi...@nedharvey.com wrote: Linux != Solaris. My main point of interest in a solaris / openindiana VPS provider would be ZFS. Suddenly, I would have a convenient cloud-based destination for zfs send for my offsite backups. Beats the pants off my current solution, lugging removable disks to the bank. It sounds like we have at least a couple of people here who may be interested in providing such a service. What sort of resource specifications would you expect for your zone, and what sort of price range would you expect to pay for it? I'd be lying if I said I haven't been spec'ing out hardware and rackspace on the side as a direct result of this thread. :) -M ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI-based PACS DICOM server
On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Bryan N Iotti wrote: just thought you'd like to know that the Veterinary Sciences Faculty of the University Of Torino, Italy, is now running an open source PACS DICOM server based on OpenIndiana, administered by yours truly. Outstanding! I've done this before, about 10 years ago for a network of medical facilities in eastern North Carolina, and had just recently been thinking about how much more appropriate Illumos would be for this task than Linux (which is what I had used back then). I've been out of the loop on radiology software developments over the last decade, so I'm glad you included some of the details of your implementation. Actually, I don't know if you maintain a blog, but I think it would make a terribly interesting blog post for people in radiology circles to read about. Due to budget restrictions, my hardware choice was the HP Proliant Microserver, with 8GB RAM and 2x250GB mirrored root disks, along with 2x1TB mirrored 7200RPM SATA drives for the tank pool. All of these disks run a weekly scrub and are SMART monitored. For now we rsync backups of the data to a mirrored 2TB LaCie network disk (on the other side of the building is the best I could do), but I'm not too happy with that solution and would prefer something that is SMART capable. The OS and zone have been dumped to USB media and are manually backed up (no modifications are made to the system itself during normal operation, we really only care about the patient data). One of the major problems of running a PACS system, as you know, is the insatiable appetite for more and more storage. I wonder if you may end up having to install an eSATA controller and attach more disks when the microserver gets full. For backups, if you can get a hold of another low end machine with a lot of disk to run Illumos on, you could send zfs snapshots to it over ssh. Your work here is directly applicable to the same technologies used for humans. Actually, I've turned away a good bit of DICOM consulting work over the years. There's a lot of demand for it, and few people who understand it apparently. I think Illumos could find itself VERY comfortable at the heart of a large institutional PACS system. Nice work, and thanks for sharing it with us! -M ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Interest in OpenIndiana VPS host?
On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Adam Del Vecchio wrote: Would there be any interest in an Xen VPS host that provided OpenIndiana as an option for installation on the server? Hello Adam. This is a very interesting question that I was just discussing with someone else recently. If I were to lease a virtualized Illumos environment from anyone, I'd probably prefer to lease a zone than something fully virtualized in Xen (for performance reasons). The trouble is, the market is a race to the bottom (price wise) so it's hard to compete when there are so many providers offering Linux for $10 or less per month with plenty of resources for a small server. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Interest in OpenIndiana VPS host?
On Sep 7, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Adam Del Vecchio wrote: Could you perhaps link me to that thread if it was on this list? This was on IRC. But are there providers offering OI at this cost? I understand what you mean, but of course the same is true for any hosting environment or company. Right now I'm paying about $9/month for a CentOS VPS from Interserver. I'd be willing to pay a small premium over that for a similarly configured Illumos zone (OpenIndiana or OmniOS would both be fine). I'm on an older plan that they don't seem to offer anymore, but for $12/month with Interserver you get 1 virtual core, 0.75GB RAM, 50GB disk, 6Mbps (1.8TB/month). To be honest, I'm surprised there aren't more low cost Illumos-based options out there. Entic is the only provider that I'm aware of right now selling OI VPS's but the cost is not within the realm of what I'd be willing to spend for a personal use VPS. The opportunities seem so slim that I keep getting this idea in my head of buying a nicely spec'd entry level 1U server, carving out a couple of zones for my own use, and leasing out the rest of the surplus capacity on the box by the slice to recoup the costs. -M ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos as a NAS
On Sep 5, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Didier Carlier wrote: The use case described is handled perfectly by OSX server ($15 these days...). It might still be a good idea but don't believe that Mac users are waiting for such a NAS without any alternatives… My iTunes library is pushing 2TB these days, and I'm not done backing up my large DVD collection yet. I've got a stack of external firewire drives attached to my Mac Mini that are slow (nature of Firewire) and suffer early thermal failure because these cases are designed more for looking slim and attractive on my desk than they are for actively cooling the disks within. If I want to add new disks to expand my volume, I can't really do that; I have to make a full backup, destroy my original volume, and create a new volume with more disks in it. I'm a beta tester for what was TensComplement so I have ZFS on there now, but I still have the limitations of firewire and the consumer level external disk thermal problems. I very much have an interest in moving my precious media library to something more robust and performant. OS X Server doesn't fix any of that. Meanwhile I've got a ~5 year old AMD machine that used to be a nice Linux desktop, now running Illumos (as of about 8 hours or so ago) and the long slow rsync from my Mac is still going. My disks will be actively cooled by a case with adequate fans. When my 2TB ZFS volume is a little closer to full, I can add another mirrored pair of 2TB disks to my pool in a matter of maybe half an hour tops (including time to physically install the disks). I've also got a pair of SSD's for slog and cache devices to put in there, once I source another SATA controller for the system. I can't do any of that with my Mac Mini. I'm also looking at the *five disks* on my desk right now around my monitor, and smiling knowing that they are going away soon. -M ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos as a NAS
I'd have to buy a new Mac to get Thunderbolt. It's a new feature that only the newest Macs have. Most Macs in the field now still don't have that option. Time will change that, of course. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Didier Carlier did...@lafalise.org wrote: On 05 Sep 2012, at 14:21, Magnus mag...@yonderway.com wrote: On Sep 5, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Didier Carlier wrote: The use case described is handled perfectly by OSX server ($15 these days...). It might still be a good idea but don't believe that Mac users are waiting for such a NAS without any alternatives… My iTunes library is pushing 2TB these days, and I'm not done backing up my large DVD collection yet. I've got a stack of external firewire drives attached to my Mac Mini that are slow (nature of Firewire) and suffer early thermal failure because these cases are designed more for looking slim and attractive on my desk than they are for actively cooling the disks within. If I want to add new disks to expand my volume, I can't really do that; I have to make a full backup, destroy my original volume, and create a new volume with more disks in it. I'm a beta tester for what was TensComplement so I have ZFS on there now, but I still have the limitations of firewire and the consumer level external disk thermal problems. I very much have an interest in moving my precious media library to something more robust and performant. OS X Server doesn't fix any of that. Meanwhile I've got a ~5 year old AMD machine that used to be a nice Linux desktop, now running Illumos (as of about 8 hours or so ago) and the long slow rsync from my Mac is still going. My disks will be actively cooled by a case with adequate fans. When my 2TB ZFS volume is a little closer to full, I can add another mirrored pair of 2TB disks to my pool in a matter of maybe half an hour tops (including time to physically install the disks). I've also got a pair of SSD's for slog and cache devices to put in there, once I source another SATA controller for the system. I can't do any of that with my Mac Mini. I'm also looking at the *five disks* on my desk right now around my monitor, and smiling knowing that they are going away soon. -M I wasn't talking specifically about firewire, a Thunderbolt disk array like the ones from Promise is much faster than firewire and support up to 12 TB. That might be more expensive but functionally, a Mac mini plus this kind of storage handles your load without any problem. Now obviously I agree that ZFS has its advantages, but OSX has some too, at least in a full Mac home or SME. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 08:01:52 -0700 (PDT), Reginald Beardsley pulask...@yahoo.com wrote: Offer as an install time option a configuration of OI w/ ZFS as a file server in a mixed MacOS, Windows *nix environment. That will require a better groomed Netatalk package SMF manifest. Right now that's a slightly messy thing to set up. Administration right now between NFS, SMB, AFP requires a mix of command line expertise. To be at all competitive with FreeNAS would demand some consideration of a management interface. That as an out of box packaged solution ought to generate a good bit of interest in OI/Illumos. I don't do Windows, but from what I understand, everything is already available if you know how to configure it. Most of the file sharing goodies come free with ZFS, except for AFP (would make a dandy ZFS feature, though!) That would leave just a good HCL as an obstacle to wider use of OI. The issues with modern/pervasive 4K sector disks on Illumos may also stifle adoption. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:53:10 -0500 (CDT), Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: I am unware of 4K sector disk issues in Illumos. http://wiki.openindiana.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4883847 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos as a NAS
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:06:06 +0100, James Relph ja...@themacplace.co.uk wrote: This to some extent goes back to something I've been talking about recently. The current version of netatalk (v3) is actually excellent on OI. NetAFP added cross-protocol file locking with the native CIFS client and netatalk will use ZFS xattrs to store Mac xattrs.The actual problem has turned out to be the Windows integration, because it's either: AD issues are going to require someone tenacious, motivated, and a bit masochistic as it's historically been a bit of a moving target. Low hanging fruit is to ignore the AD integration for now, make this a good NAS for home users without the AD integration issues resolved. Example of a common use case: iTunes media library. 2+ TB of music, movies, books, podcasts, etc. becomes more than a bit unwieldy to handle natively on a Mac, but Illumos is well suited to handle this workload. No AD integration is necessary for this use case. Local system auth is good enough. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] 4k sector bug
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:47:43 -0500 (CDT), Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: Most significantly, the issue was RESOLVED four months ago. Unfortunately, George Wilson did not update the bug entry correctly so it is still shown as 0% done even though the issue was resolved. I expect that this became available in oi_151a_prestable5 (however, oi_151a_prestable6 is out today!). Excellent news. Thanks for the update. Does the resolution require any special effort on the end users part or should zpool handle new devices automagically now? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos as a NAS
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:41:47 -0700 (PDT), Reginald Beardsley pulask...@yahoo.com wrote: I think this is an excellent point. Start small and build up from there. The home/SOHO market is a lot of units. Witness Iomega is a subsidiary of EMC. Illumos + Netatalk + management interface could be more of a Drobo killer, if anything, I think. I used iTunes as an example, but video production houses could also stand to gain much from something like this. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos as a NAS
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:26:31 -0600, fi...@linuxbsdos.com wrote: My response is not necessarily specific to this thread, but has any body looked at what OmniOs guys are doing, and see if there is a possibility of pooling resources. So there is a sort of scope to OmniOS where I would think that the answer to that would be that OmniOS already does all of the things it's going to want to do to support being used as a NAS, and there are some docs on how to set up a third party package repo to add the rest of the prereqs onto it. The only place where I think OmniOS might benefit heavily from some collaboration is with its installer, and possibly-maybe OI and OmniOS could mutually benefit from that. But with one of the stated goals of OmniOS being: A simple and supported environment for managing custom repositories with your software packages, I think it would be more consistent with that distro's vision to figure out how to bolt on the NAS functionality as third party packages. Such an effort could be of mutual benefit to OI, potentially, if the packages are made with due care. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
On Sep 4, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: I expect that this became available in oi_151a_prestable5 (however, oi_151a_prestable6 is out today!). Hi Bob, I'm looking at http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/ and it looks like 151a5 is the latest available to the public right now. Does this require the end user to do anything special, or should it just work when installing OI? Right now some other Illumos distros are not handling these drives well at all yet. My drive is coming up as WDC WD2002FAEX-0 revision 1D05. Thanks, Magnus ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
On Aug 14, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Shain Singh via LinkedIn wrote: Shain Singh requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn That should be a really interesting trick, if you can manage to pull it off. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] aspire D270
I have an Intel Atom box with 1GB of RAM. It runs several flavors of Illumos with no problems other than being a little slow. Don't plan on running it as a desktop. On May 2, 2012, at 8:27 AM, mattias wrote: i reed the aspire D270 work with openindiana but will it work on 1 gb ram? cool! ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?
Postfix. Sent from my typewriter On Apr 21, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Hans J. Albertsson hans.j.alberts...@branneriet.se wrote: What MTA would you suggest? On 2012-04-20 14:40, openindiana-discuss-requ...@openindiana.org wrote: Message: 8 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:00:03 +0800 From: Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Message-ID: 4f90b513.9080...@bradbury.edu.hk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Hans, May I ask why you would want to use qmail? It has pretty weak anti-spam facilities, if at all, and so would not really be an mta you want for incoming use. If you only want to use it for outgoing then I can understand. Christopher On Friday, April 20, 2012 03:40 AM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote: I'm considering setting up qmail rather than sendmail or postfix on my openindiana 151-a3 systems. Is there a ready-made package available for openindiana or must I compile it from scratch? Will Qmail integrate well with Webmin, or even at all? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)
Sergei wrote: Firmware modifications made by Dell to WD and may be Seagate drives is what makes opensolaris not being able to power up those disks. Easiest way to make it work is to modify /kernel/drv/sd.conf and add an entry for your specific drive similar to this sd-config-list= WD WD2000FYYG,power-condition:false, SEAGATE ST2000NM0001,power-condition:false, SEAGATE ST32000644NS,power-condition:false, SEAGATE ST91000640SS,power-condition:false; It is also possible to make it work without reboot using mdb commands Do you have any details on the mdb method? I just received a replacement disk of a different type than the broken one that I don't have specified in sd.conf so it won't power up and I'd prefer not to reboot. //Magnus ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New to the list + SPARC OpenSolaris
On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Bryan N Iotti wrote: Now, I have recently acquired a Sun Ultra 5 (with SCSI disks! ;-) ) and an Enterprise 250, dirt cheap. I have an original box with the Solaris 9 CDs and all the systems work fine. I use them at home to learn more about this OS and its underpinnings. I have both of those machines at home. They have their uses. I fear this is not one of them. Memory limitations on the Ultra 5 make any ZFS-based OS impractical. Luckily, yours has been upgraded to use SCSI disks, which is a good thing, because the IDE controller on that model is dog poo. The E250 is marginally less bad. Marginally. Honestly, if you really must use machines this old, I'd suggest looking at OpenBSD. It runs exceedingly well on this vintage of hardware. It's also maintained quite well so you're not stuck running old unpatched software. You won't get ZFS, but then your hardware isn't really good for that. This is a bit of a stretch, but if you had 1 or 2GB of RAM in the E250, you could run FreeBSD 9.0 (which was just released this week) which is also running zpool 28 but is pretty well supported on a number of architectures. I say it's a bit of a stretch, because there is no getting around the fact that the hardware you're looking at using is very old, very slow, and will not be pleasing to use. The E250 will, at least, warm up the room for you. Not a bad feature this time of year if you live in the northern hemisphere. If you want to learn about *modern* flavors of Solaris-y OS's, you're really better off with hardware made in the 21st century. It doesn't have to be exotic or expensive. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Solaris on x86 going to be killed?
On Jan 6, 2012, at 9:59 AM, LinuxBSDos.com wrote: I heard rumors of Oracle going to dismiss the intel version of Solaris... Is this true?! What's the source of this rumor? And moreover, how would anyone here know if such a rumor were true? This is not an Oracle-sponsored project. Also, if anyone here was in a position to know, why would they even answer this? The question is moot speculation and since OpenIndiana != Solaris, it's about as on-topic here as it would be on a Linux or Windows mailing list. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] DELL E6520
If you're looking at getting a laptop, check out System76. They ship all of their laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed, so the hardware tends to be more on the open side. My (older) Pangolin Performance worked with OI no problem, except I think the Bluetooth and fingerprint reader didn't work (the latter never worked with Linux, either, but I didn't try fixing that). Sent from my typewriter On Nov 18, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: Had a chance to look at a Dell E6520 (was looking at a possible upgrade) and so I booted several operating systems, including Solaris 11 and OpenIndiana 151a. I've got the prtconf output from both OS's and will attach them. Solaris 11 got both network cards (Ethernet + Wifi) and graphics used proper i915 driver ... it also reckoned it knew about the Mass Storage Controller after a package update ... leaving only 1 device unknown. OpenIndiana was missing both network devices (even with an update_drv), graphics where vgatext and the Mass Storage Controller wasn't talking (there may be an update online but since the networks weren't working it wouldn't find it) I'm not sure if I will be upgrading the laptop ... matters if they ship them to other people first, but I thought that some people might like to see the output. Jon DELLE6520-oi151a.txtDELLE6520-sol11.txt___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ? Additional info ?
Relax, Steve. It will all be ok. This mailing list works pretty well actually. There is also an irc channel, #OpenIndiana, which I have found to be both friendly and helpful. OpenIndiana is not Indiana, nor is it OpenSolaris. You will find more of a tie to Illumos than anything. Go to Illumos.org and you will see a link to a forum there if that is what you are after. Sent from my iPad On Jul 26, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Steve strange_st...@yahoo.com wrote: Uh, new to OpenIndiana (O.I.) and kind of dismayed to see the lack of any community forum anywhere - with the exception to this mailing list... which is hardly the ideal way to resolve an issue, or seek guidance IMHO. I was able to find something at OpenSolaris.org but the Indiana category appears to be 'closed' - is there a forum aside from IRC and this listserv that exists -to address targeted facets and innards of O.I.? Secondly - the O.I. FAQ fails to answer the question if Gnome (or the lack there of) and if this GUI is the only differenced between the 148 server and the desktop installation binaries. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Shorter subjects for mailing lists
On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Nikola M. wrote: I am not sure who is administering mailing list. But I think question of shorting subjects asks for an answer. openindiana-discuss-ow...@openindiana.org is an alias that goes right to the owner of the mailing list. -M ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] jbod disk shelves with fmd fault led support
On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:46 PM, jason matthews wrote: i am looking for oi friendly disk chassis that support managing the disk fault lights from fmd. http://pogolinux.com/products/das_storage This stuff works with Nexenta, which is also Illumos-based. You might want to ask them about the fault lights. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oracle removes 32bit x86 cpu support for solaris 11 will OI do same?
Closer to twenty. And my Ultra 1 is doing fine. Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Gary Driggs gdri...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, Mac OS X Lion will only support x64 as well. IMHO, this is a good move for modern operating systems since there are always going to be alternatives for those still using i386 architecture. How long has Solaris/SPARC been 64-bit? At least ten years if not more... -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana
I've been reticent to say anything as a newcomer, but a six syllable name doesn't exactly roll off the tip of the tongue. Not to mention, any relevance to Indiana is probably lost upon a broader audience. Open is pretty played out as a prefix. The whole thing should be two, maybe three syllables at most. Pfft. Done. I'll still use it even if it's called Antidisestablishmentarianix. But it'll be a tough sell to the boss. (PS I was in this same discussion years ago when a Linux distribution changed its name from cAosity to CentOS. I think you know the rest.) -M On Jun 20, 2011, at 8:10 PM, Blake wrote: :) Clearly this is the sort of thing that the OpenIndiana group must choose to do, if they agree. I'll reiterate - I love OpenIndiana, and I want it to be easily name-dropped and recognizable to even the hobbyist crowd. These are the folks who can help fix things in userland and the GUI. If we really want mindshare, that is. Blake On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Garrett D'Amore garr...@damore.org wrote: You're not alone. - Garrett On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 16:53 -0700, Blake wrote: Does anyone besides me feel that we need a more unified naming/branding approach for the community-driven descendants of OpenSolaris? I feel that the there is no obvious connection (for those new to the platform) between Illumos/OpenIndiana, which I think is counterproductive given that OpenIndiana is sort of the 'Fedora Core' of Illumos. Some possible names: Illumos Live Illumos Core Illumos [version_number] - [adjective] [animal] (kidding about the last one) I think OpenIndiana is great, I just don't think that the name 'Indiana' means anything to anyone and isn't very memorable. Blake ___ Discuss mailing list disc...@lists.illumos.org http://lists.illumos.org/m/listinfo/discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana
On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:20 PM, Tim Aslat wrote: How about FlareOS (offshoot of the Sun) Mithros.org is available. I intentionally didn't capitalize the os. It's less awkward to read and to pronounce. There are some tenuous connections between Mithras Sol, the Sun God, in ancient Roman art. But it's a simple name, and the domain is available. Don't be a b*d and squat on this name if it's not going to be for the productive use of this project. ;) Magnus ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] can't run updates, says live image
On 6/16/11 8:25 AM, Michelle O'Brien wrote: OpenIndiana installs, works with the OpenSolaris guest additions, but I cannot run any updates from the package manager - says it cannot update live image. Sounds like you're still booting from the Live DVD ISO, not from the installed instance on your hard disk. -M ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] LibreOffice in OpenIndiana
On 6/16/11 8:25 AM, Michelle O'Brien wrote: Also, is there some way of selecting to install LibreOffice, rather than OpenOffice? Sorry, Mish; I should have included this in my original response to you: https://www.illumos.org/issues/684 There's a feature request for this right now but it doesn't look like it's gone anywhere just yet. -Magnus ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] User roles and acting as root
On 6/14/11 1:10 PM, Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: Sudo asks for a password even if it is the user's password Well, it *can*, but that's not universally true. You can have it prompt for a password or not. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Backups and snapshots
On 6/10/11 3:56 PM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Thanx for the reply ;) I read somewhere that NFS is much slower than having an iscsi device. Somewherelse they said the contrary I think a lot of it can do with the clients being used. But in my experience here, zfs backed iscsi targets are on-par with NFS on read performance, but lag badly on write performance. NFS clients perform pretty well in both read write operations. ESX seems to like its vmdk's on NFS more than iSCSI here. Back end is Sun 7310 cluster. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Backups and snapshots
On 6/10/11 4:04 PM, Gregory Youngblood wrote: I also prefer NFS for exporting to Linux/Solaris/Unix. Can use to export to Mac as well, though AFP would allow the mac to use the share as a time machine; I dont think NFS does. You can use a pretty wide array of storage back-ends for Time Machine, actually. Wish I had the link handy but I saw some benchmarks recently of a Mac client connecting to zfs backed server through several supported protocols: smb, nfs, afp. Performance-wise, using afp wiped the floor with the other two. But it takes a little more work to set it up. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Backups and snapshots
On 6/10/11 4:05 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: Agreed. I have seen ESXi get finicky if it thinks the iSCSI target is offline. One gotcha: it depends if the iSCSI storage is a file or a zvol. Performance of the former seemed to be about that of NFS - performance of the latter sucked (I was seeing about a 50% degradation...) I don't think this Sun appliance allows for file-backed iscsi targets. My testing here was with volume-based targets. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Backups and snapshots
On 6/10/11 4:11 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: bummer. nexentastor doesn't either. OI allows either one. Right now my OI work is strictly on my personal time. But I have the ulterior motive of using it more broadly in production once I have my head around it better. It won't be replacing the Sun appliances, but there are definitely some other things I have in mind for it. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Backups and snapshots
On Jun 10, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Is it safe to run postgres and mysql data over nfs? Can't speak for Postgres, but Oracle likes MySQL on NFS (backed by ZFS). http://blogs.oracle.com/dlutz/entry/mysql_on_sun_storage_7000 is somewhat informative. The 7000 series storage they are talking about is a Solaris machine with a SAS array attached and a web GUI sitting between it and the sysadmin. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
