[OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Stefan Müller-Wilken
Hi Rainer,

have you looked at 
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces ? 
That should describe reasonably well how to set a static address. I'm using the 
described procedure regularly on oi_151a7 and oi_151a8 installations...

Cheers
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Rainer Heilke
Yep. Didn't work for me, as I need the system to boot right into a 
networking state. Like all of the NWAM documentation I found, I had to 
log in before the networking came up.


R

On 11/22/2013 12:25 AM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

Hi Rainer,

have you looked at 
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces ? 
That should describe reasonably well how to set a static address. I'm using the 
described procedure regularly on oi_151a7 and oi_151a8 installations...

Cheers
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Jim Klimov

On 2013-11-22 08:05, Rainer Heilke wrote:


On 11/21/2013 10:20 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:

Hi,

On 22.11.2013 08:02, Rainer Heilke wrote:

Greetings.

After spending most of the day trying to get the OI 151a8 (LiveCD
Desktop) install to boot up with fixed IP addresses, I finally gave
up. The wiki is very outdated, and self-contradictory. So I googled,
and still nothing. And network-admin doesn't run without NWAM enabled.
(This system is a small home running DNS, Mediatomb, and storage
shares.and with NWAM, I have to log in to fire up the network
interfaces.) But it also acts occasionally as one of my desktops. So,


Is it also the router? Or do you have an access point as the
DHCP server? Can you assign a fixed IP address to the OI box's
MAC address on that?


since a fresh install of 151a8 Desktop cannot be made into a server, I
installed the server version.


Well, not technically true - the GUI version includes all the
packages (AFAIK) of the text-only version, they are just
preconfigured differently.


if you are using static IP then what is problem to disable nwam, use
network:physical and configure IP without automagic?


Simple - it doesn't work. network-admin won't run, and all of the IP
configuration files disappear on reboot if I do it by hand.


Why would you need that? Open the shell, and
:; pfexec svcadm disable -s physical:nwam
:; pfexec svcadm enable -r physical:default

Also, it is possible that setting static stuff not by old-school
files, but with ipadm *may* (I'm not sure) configure the statics
for both NWAM and the default setup. Quoting from my example for
a previously created VNIC, ipadm has to set up the interface as
managed by this mechanism, and assign an IPv4 address:
:; ipadm create-if vnic127001  \
   ipadm create-addr -T static -alocal=192.168.127.1 vnic127001/v4




The server version, however, is text only (of course). No Gnome. So,
how can I add it?

Note that DNS seems a bit borked. I can
'ping 91.194.74.133
I can
'dig pkg.openindiana.org'
but I cannot
'ping pkg.openindiana.org'
getting an unknown host error. (??) So 'pkg refresh --full' always
fails.

I suspect this will be the last time I install fresh, rather than
doing an upgrade. :-(



Your nsswitch config is missing dns for hosts and ipnods.


Rats. I thought I replaced nsswitch.conf with nsswitch.dns.Must have
missed this on my nth time around. Thanks.


It may have also been replaced by automagic if you haven't disabled it.

And look out for ipfilter automagic, unless you replace it with custom
method for old-school config with /etc/ipf/* files.

HTH,
//Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Rainer Heilke

To make things clear:

On 11/22/2013 1:13 AM, Jim Klimov wrote:

On 2013-11-22 08:05, Rainer Heilke wrote:


On 11/21/2013 10:20 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:

Hi,

On 22.11.2013 08:02, Rainer Heilke wrote:

Greetings.

After spending most of the day trying to get the OI 151a8 (LiveCD
Desktop) install to boot up with fixed IP addresses, I finally gave
up. The wiki is very outdated, and self-contradictory. So I googled,
and still nothing. And network-admin doesn't run without NWAM enabled.
(This system is a small home running DNS, Mediatomb, and storage
shares.and with NWAM, I have to log in to fire up the network
interfaces.) But it also acts occasionally as one of my desktops. So,


Is it also the router? Or do you have an access point as the
DHCP server? Can you assign a fixed IP address to the OI box's
MAC address on that?
The router has nothing to do with it, and setting up a server using DHCP 
from a router is just wrong in my book. Besides which, I shouldn't have 
to use this type of kludge.



since a fresh install of 151a8 Desktop cannot be made into a server, I
installed the server version.


Well, not technically true - the GUI version includes all the
packages (AFAIK) of the text-only version, they are just
preconfigured differently.
Probably ttue, but the static network configuration simply would not 
work, despite everything the manual/wiki says.



if you are using static IP then what is problem to disable nwam, use
network:physical and configure IP without automagic?


Simple - it doesn't work. network-admin won't run, and all of the IP
configuration files disappear on reboot if I do it by hand.


Why would you need that? Open the shell, and
:; pfexec svcadm disable -s physical:nwam
:; pfexec svcadm enable -r physical:default

To repeat, this did  *not* work.


Also, it is possible that setting static stuff not by old-school
files, but with ipadm *may* (I'm not sure) configure the statics
for both NWAM and the default setup. Quoting from my example for
a previously created VNIC, ipadm has to set up the interface as
managed by this mechanism, and assign an IPv4 address:
:; ipadm create-if vnic127001  \
   ipadm create-addr -T static -alocal=192.168.127.1 vnic127001/v4
ipadm constantly gave me the standard error of not being able to do it's 
job on a temporary object (I tried e1000g0/v4 , e1000g0/v4static.etc.)





The server version, however, is text only (of course). No Gnome. So,
how can I add it?

Note that DNS seems a bit borked. I can
'ping 91.194.74.133
I can
'dig pkg.openindiana.org'
but I cannot
'ping pkg.openindiana.org'
getting an unknown host error. (??) So 'pkg refresh --full' always
fails.

I suspect this will be the last time I install fresh, rather than
doing an upgrade. :-(



Your nsswitch config is missing dns for hosts and ipnods.


Rats. I thought I replaced nsswitch.conf with nsswitch.dns.Must have
missed this on my nth time around. Thanks.


It may have also been replaced by automagic if you haven't disabled it.

Perhaps.


And look out for ipfilter automagic, unless you replace it with custom
method for old-school config with /etc/ipf/* files.

Turned of ipfilter every time (typically not enabled anyway).


HTH,
//Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)

On 22/11/2013 10:37, Rainer Heilke wrote:

To make things clear:


Why would you need that? Open the shell, and
:; pfexec svcadm disable -s physical:nwam
:; pfexec svcadm enable -r physical:default

To repeat, this did  *not* work.


This should always work if followed by the classical
ifconfig ... incantations. If not, maybe your network
card is not supported by OI illumos ?
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Rainer Heilke

Hi.

On 11/22/2013 1:43 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 22/11/2013 10:37, Rainer Heilke wrote:

To make things clear:


Why would you need that? Open the shell, and
:; pfexec svcadm disable -s physical:nwam
:; pfexec svcadm enable -r physical:default

To repeat, this did  *not* work.


This should always work if followed by the classical
ifconfig ... incantations. If not, maybe your network
card is not supported by OI illumos ?
The NIC has been supported since day 1. It works fine now I've installed 
the text server version of OI 151a8.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Jim Klimov

On 2013-11-22 10:03, Rainer Heilke wrote:

Yep. Didn't work for me, as I need the system to boot right into a
networking state. Like all of the NWAM documentation I found, I had to
log in before the networking came up.

R


Do you need it to work hands-off, automagically after the first boot?

You can somewhat manage the system service profiles of the newly made
installation from the installer, though it may take a few attempts to
do so correctly. With the installed BE mounted (as /a), try these ways:

0) Set up NWAM the way you want in the LiveCD environment, including
a profile with static addressing, and copy the config files into your
installed BE (/a/etc/nwam/*). Maybe that would just work. If not...

1) reconfigure the service in the installed SMF repository:
:; echo repository /a/etc/svc/repository.db
select network/physical:nwam
setprop general/enabled = false
select network/physical:default
setprop general/enabled = true
exit | svccfg

2) If the service was not found in (1) as part of the repository,
it may be enabled at first boot via import of manifests, see under
/a/var/svc/manifests and /a/lib/svc/manifests for the files involved;
make backups and then adjustments to the XMLs ;)

3) Set an init-script (/a/etc/rc2.d/S01staticnet) that would do
the job as an ugly hack. Unpretty brutal things are effective :)

#!/bin/sh
[ x$1 = xstart -a ! -f /etc/.noFixNet ]  \
svcadm disable -s network/physical:nwam  \
svcadm enable -sr network/physical:default  \
touch /etc/.noFixNet
### maybe do the ipadm tricks here as well?

If not ipadm, then precreate the old-school static-config files with
your config; maybe even protect them from first-boot automagic as
immutable:
:; cd /a/etc  /bin/chmod S+ci netmasks hostname.* resolv.conf \
   nsswitch.conf defaultrouter defaultdomain

I really hope that at least some of these would work for you,
or would push in the right direction ;)

//Jim



On 11/22/2013 12:25 AM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

Hi Rainer,

have you looked at
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces
? That should describe reasonably well how to set a static address.
I'm using the described procedure regularly on oi_151a7 and oi_151a8
installations...

Cheers
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Stefan Müller-Wilken
Again: what is wrong with the NWAM approach? That works and for all of my 
installations was set up in a straight forward approach...

Cheers
 Stefan


Von: Jim Klimov [jimkli...@cos.ru]
Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2013 10:55
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On 2013-11-22 10:03, Rainer Heilke wrote:
 Yep. Didn't work for me, as I need the system to boot right into a
 networking state. Like all of the NWAM documentation I found, I had to
 log in before the networking came up.

 R

Do you need it to work hands-off, automagically after the first boot?

You can somewhat manage the system service profiles of the newly made
installation from the installer, though it may take a few attempts to
do so correctly. With the installed BE mounted (as /a), try these ways:

0) Set up NWAM the way you want in the LiveCD environment, including
a profile with static addressing, and copy the config files into your
installed BE (/a/etc/nwam/*). Maybe that would just work. If not...

1) reconfigure the service in the installed SMF repository:
:; echo repository /a/etc/svc/repository.db
select network/physical:nwam
setprop general/enabled = false
select network/physical:default
setprop general/enabled = true
exit | svccfg

2) If the service was not found in (1) as part of the repository,
it may be enabled at first boot via import of manifests, see under
/a/var/svc/manifests and /a/lib/svc/manifests for the files involved;
make backups and then adjustments to the XMLs ;)

3) Set an init-script (/a/etc/rc2.d/S01staticnet) that would do
the job as an ugly hack. Unpretty brutal things are effective :)

#!/bin/sh
[ x$1 = xstart -a ! -f /etc/.noFixNet ]  \
 svcadm disable -s network/physical:nwam  \
 svcadm enable -sr network/physical:default  \
 touch /etc/.noFixNet
### maybe do the ipadm tricks here as well?

If not ipadm, then precreate the old-school static-config files with
your config; maybe even protect them from first-boot automagic as
immutable:
:; cd /a/etc  /bin/chmod S+ci netmasks hostname.* resolv.conf \
nsswitch.conf defaultrouter defaultdomain

I really hope that at least some of these would work for you,
or would push in the right direction ;)

//Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Jim Klimov

On 2013-11-22 10:59, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

Again: what is wrong with the NWAM approach? That works and for all of my 
installations was set up in a straight forward approach...


For me - I am oldschool, and most of the boxes use static configs
or centralized DHCP, so I haven't really used NWAM much and don't
feel like giving expert advice except pointers to some wikis and
blogs; I am not sure if I've even seen all the relevant ones :)

BTW, since Rainer stated that the Wiki pages on static networking
are out of date - can you glance at them and see if anything needs
updating or fixing? ;)

Thanks,
//Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Predrag Zecevic [Unix Systems Administrator]

Hi all,

i have found that (Stefans's) page 
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces contains 
all necessary info and have tested it with latest /hispter - was working.


Regards.

On 11/22/13 11:05, Jim Klimov wrote:

On 2013-11-22 10:59, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

Again: what is wrong with the NWAM approach? That works and for all of
my installations was set up in a straight forward approach...


For me - I am oldschool, and most of the boxes use static configs
or centralized DHCP, so I haven't really used NWAM much and don't
feel like giving expert advice except pointers to some wikis and
blogs; I am not sure if I've even seen all the relevant ones :)

BTW, since Rainer stated that the Wiki pages on static networking
are out of date - can you glance at them and see if anything needs
updating or fixing? ;)

Thanks,
//Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Rainer Heilke

Good morning.

They simply didn't work for me, and there are a few pages on the wiki 
with differing instructions. I really don't care to waste another day on 
this issue.


To add Gnome, would a:

pkg -R consolidation/gnome/gnome-corporation install entire
do the trick? (Thanks for the pointer, Jim.)

R


On 11/22/2013 2:14 AM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

Well, that was the point I was trying to make: for _me_, they worked so far.  
I'd need a little more feedback from Rainer to know what might need rework...

Cheers
  Stefan

Von: Jim Klimov [jimkli...@cos.ru]
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On 2013-11-22 10:59, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

Again: what is wrong with the NWAM approach? That works and for all of my 
installations was set up in a straight forward approach...

For me - I am oldschool, and most of the boxes use static configs
or centralized DHCP, so I haven't really used NWAM much and don't
feel like giving expert advice except pointers to some wikis and
blogs; I am not sure if I've even seen all the relevant ones :)

BTW, since Rainer stated that the Wiki pages on static networking
are out of date - can you glance at them and see if anything needs
updating or fixing? ;)

Thanks,
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Jim Klimov

On 2013-11-22 19:58, Rainer Heilke wrote:

To add Gnome, would a:

pkg -R consolidation/gnome/gnome-corporation install entire
do the trick? (Thanks for the pointer, Jim.)



The -R parameter, like with many other commands, specifies the
path to root of alternate boot environment (so as to not break the
current BE). For example:

:; beadm create oi-gui
:; beadm mount oi-gui /a
:; pkg -R /a install entire

or perhaps

:; pkg -R /a install consolidation/gnome/gnome-incorporation

(note the INcorporation) - I did not actually try this, but expect
it to work.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Stefan Müller-Wilken
I'm still interested in an analysis. Could you issue the
commands I sent and report the output? Maybe I need to correct something on my 
wiki tutorial?

Cheers
 Stefan

 Good morning.

 They simply didn't work for me, and there are a few pages on the wiki with 
 differing instructions. I really don't care to waste another day on this 
 issue.

 To add Gnome, would a:

 pkg -R consolidation/gnome/gnome-corporation install entire
 do the trick? (Thanks for the pointer, Jim.)

 R


 On 11/22/2013 2:14 AM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:
 Well, that was the point I was trying to make: for _me_, they worked so far. 
  I'd need a little more feedback from Rainer to know what might need 
 rework...

 Cheers
  Stefan
 
 Von: Jim Klimov [jimkli...@cos.ru]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2013 11:05
 An: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
 Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

 On 2013-11-22 10:59, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:
 Again: what is wrong with the NWAM approach? That works and for all of my 
 installations was set up in a straight forward approach...
 For me - I am oldschool, and most of the boxes use static configs
 or centralized DHCP, so I haven't really used NWAM much and don't
 feel like giving expert advice except pointers to some wikis and
 blogs; I am not sure if I've even seen all the relevant ones :)

 BTW, since Rainer stated that the Wiki pages on static networking
 are out of date - can you glance at them and see if anything needs
 updating or fixing? ;)

 Thanks,
 //Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Rainer Heilke

Thanks. I'll give this a try when I get home.

R

On 11/22/2013 11:08 AM, Jim Klimov wrote:

On 2013-11-22 19:58, Rainer Heilke wrote:

To add Gnome, would a:

pkg -R consolidation/gnome/gnome-corporation install entire
do the trick? (Thanks for the pointer, Jim.)



The -R parameter, like with many other commands, specifies the
path to root of alternate boot environment (so as to not break the
current BE). For example:

:; beadm create oi-gui
:; beadm mount oi-gui /a
:; pkg -R /a install entire

or perhaps

:; pkg -R /a install consolidation/gnome/gnome-incorporation

(note the INcorporation) - I did not actually try this, but expect
it to work.

//Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-22 Thread Rainer Heilke
I'm not interested, as I am not re-installing it again. The server 
edition is working fine. But you can try disabling NWAM and see if 
network-admin starts up. Sure didn't for me.


And now I have to get out the door...

R

On 11/22/2013 11:11 AM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

I'm still interested in an analysis. Could you issue the
commands I sent and report the output? Maybe I need to correct something on my 
wiki tutorial?

Cheers
  Stefan


Good morning.

They simply didn't work for me, and there are a few pages on the wiki with 
differing instructions. I really don't care to waste another day on this issue.

To add Gnome, would a:

pkg -R consolidation/gnome/gnome-corporation install entire
do the trick? (Thanks for the pointer, Jim.)

R


On 11/22/2013 2:14 AM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

Well, that was the point I was trying to make: for _me_, they worked so far.  
I'd need a little more feedback from Rainer to know what might need rework...

Cheers
  Stefan

Von: Jim Klimov [jimkli...@cos.ru]
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On 2013-11-22 10:59, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:

Again: what is wrong with the NWAM approach? That works and for all of my 
installations was set up in a straight forward approach...

For me - I am oldschool, and most of the boxes use static configs
or centralized DHCP, so I haven't really used NWAM much and don't
feel like giving expert advice except pointers to some wikis and
blogs; I am not sure if I've even seen all the relevant ones :)

BTW, since Rainer stated that the Wiki pages on static networking
are out of date - can you glance at them and see if anything needs
updating or fixing? ;)

Thanks,
//Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-21 Thread Rainer Heilke


On 11/21/2013 10:20 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:

Hi,

On 22.11.2013 08:02, Rainer Heilke wrote:

Greetings.

After spending most of the day trying to get the OI 151a8 (LiveCD
Desktop) install to boot up with fixed IP addresses, I finally gave
up. The wiki is very outdated, and self-contradictory. So I googled,
and still nothing. And network-admin doesn't run without NWAM enabled.
(This system is a small home running DNS, Mediatomb, and storage
shares.and with NWAM, I have to log in to fire up the network
interfaces.) But it also acts occasionally as one of my desktops. So,
since a fresh install of 151a8 Desktop cannot be made into a server, I
installed the server version.



if you are using static IP then what is problem to disable nwam, use 
network:physical and configure IP without automagic?


Simple - it doesn't work. network-admin won't run, and all of the IP 
configuration files disappear on reboot if I do it by hand.



The server version, however, is text only (of course). No Gnome. So,
how can I add it?

Note that DNS seems a bit borked. I can
'ping 91.194.74.133
I can
'dig pkg.openindiana.org'
but I cannot
'ping pkg.openindiana.org'
getting an unknown host error. (??) So 'pkg refresh --full' always 
fails.


I suspect this will be the last time I install fresh, rather than
doing an upgrade. :-(



Your nsswitch config is missing dns for hosts and ipnods.


Rats. I thought I replaced nsswitch.conf with nsswitch.dns.Must have 
missed this on my nth time around. Thanks.



Rainer


Best regards,

Milan

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Add Gnome to server install

2013-11-21 Thread Milan Jurik

Hi,

On 22.11.2013 08:02, Rainer Heilke wrote:

Greetings.

After spending most of the day trying to get the OI 151a8 (LiveCD
Desktop) install to boot up with fixed IP addresses, I finally gave
up. The wiki is very outdated, and self-contradictory. So I googled,
and still nothing. And network-admin doesn't run without NWAM 
enabled.

(This system is a small home running DNS, Mediatomb, and storage
shares.and with NWAM, I have to log in to fire up the network
interfaces.) But it also acts occasionally as one of my desktops. So,
since a fresh install of 151a8 Desktop cannot be made into a server, 
I

installed the server version.



if you are using static IP then what is problem to disable nwam, use 
network:physical and configure IP without automagic?



The server version, however, is text only (of course). No Gnome. So,
how can I add it?

Note that DNS seems a bit borked. I can
'ping 91.194.74.133
I can
'dig pkg.openindiana.org'
but I cannot
'ping pkg.openindiana.org'
getting an unknown host error. (??) So 'pkg refresh --full' always 
fails.


I suspect this will be the last time I install fresh, rather than
doing an upgrade. :-(



Your nsswitch config is missing dns for hosts and ipnods.


Rainer


Best regards,

Milan

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