Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How often is sfe Dovecot updated?

2013-03-22 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi,

SFE dovecot has active maintainer these days. The problem is on my side,
at least partially, because I am building SFE packages and pushing them
to the repo. SFE build zone is down for last 2 weeks and admins had no
time to look at it yet.

Best regards,

Milan

On čt, 2013-03-21 at 15:00 -0600, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Who maintains the SFE package?  If somebody is already maintaining it, I 
 don't think I should butt in. (?)
 
 I kind of have my hands full trying to get a grip on video card device 
 drivers for Illumos, which I think OI desktop users would benefit greatly 
 from if I can figure it out, and get it through the whole acceptance process. 
  If I give up on it -- and I don't give up very easily -- I'd be more 
 inclined to do some package work for OI.  I can't really take that on right 
 now, though.  At a later time, I might take you up on that offer, though!
 
 I'm just wondering how often dovecot SFE gets updated?
 
 I don't think building a script to update dovecot from sources would be that 
 hard, and I wouldn't mind sharing it with others if I end up going that 
 route, but I find the whole thought of that a bit ugly.  
 
 
 
 On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
 
  I'm in exactly the same situation re dovecot. No doubt several others are, 
  too.
  
  Keeping an SFE package updated is probably no more work than keeping your 
  own installation updated from sources.
  
  Different, and a little bit of a learning curve to traverse, but not 
  terribly difficult even that.
  
  If that seems daunting, SVr4 packages can be kept updated and downloadable 
  from somewhere,
  and those are possibly a little easier to produce.
  
  Either way, others would benefit. If you decide to go down this road, call 
  on me, and I could try to help out.
  
  
  
  On 2013-03-21 19:36, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
  How often are the dovecot packages in sfe updated?
  
  service/network/imap/dovecot   2.1.14,5.11-0.151.1.7:20130208T203706Z
  
  It's one update behind from what's on the dovecot site, and interestingly 
  enough, the current version came out the same day as this was posted on 
  the sfe repository.
  
  ---
  v2.1.15 2013-02-08  Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi
  
 - v2.1.14: dovecot.index.cache fixes caused it to use more disk I/O
   and memory than necessary.
  ---
  
  I'm at that dreaded time where I'm starting to try to figure out what in 
  the world I'm going to do to try to improve our email situation.If I 
  end up using dovecot - which I probably will - I'd like to keep it fairly 
  up to date.  I'm trying to decide whether I want to use the sfe 
  repository, or write my own update script to keep it updated from the 
  sources.
  
  
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How often is sfe Dovecot updated?

2013-03-22 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Great!  Do you normally keep dovecot reasonably up to date?

And, thanks for your contributions to OpenIndiana.



On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:09 AM, Milan Jurik wrote:

 Hi,
 
 SFE dovecot has active maintainer these days. The problem is on my side,
 at least partially, because I am building SFE packages and pushing them
 to the repo. SFE build zone is down for last 2 weeks and admins had no
 time to look at it yet.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Milan
 
 On čt, 2013-03-21 at 15:00 -0600, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Who maintains the SFE package?  If somebody is already maintaining it, I 
 don't think I should butt in. (?)
 
 I kind of have my hands full trying to get a grip on video card device 
 drivers for Illumos, which I think OI desktop users would benefit greatly 
 from if I can figure it out, and get it through the whole acceptance 
 process.  If I give up on it -- and I don't give up very easily -- I'd be 
 more inclined to do some package work for OI.  I can't really take that on 
 right now, though.  At a later time, I might take you up on that offer, 
 though!
 
 I'm just wondering how often dovecot SFE gets updated?
 
 I don't think building a script to update dovecot from sources would be that 
 hard, and I wouldn't mind sharing it with others if I end up going that 
 route, but I find the whole thought of that a bit ugly.  
 
 
 
 On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
 
 I'm in exactly the same situation re dovecot. No doubt several others are, 
 too.
 
 Keeping an SFE package updated is probably no more work than keeping your 
 own installation updated from sources.
 
 Different, and a little bit of a learning curve to traverse, but not 
 terribly difficult even that.
 
 If that seems daunting, SVr4 packages can be kept updated and downloadable 
 from somewhere,
 and those are possibly a little easier to produce.
 
 Either way, others would benefit. If you decide to go down this road, call 
 on me, and I could try to help out.
 
 
 
 On 2013-03-21 19:36, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
 How often are the dovecot packages in sfe updated?
 
 service/network/imap/dovecot   2.1.14,5.11-0.151.1.7:20130208T203706Z
 
 It's one update behind from what's on the dovecot site, and interestingly 
 enough, the current version came out the same day as this was posted on 
 the sfe repository.
 
 ---
 v2.1.15 2013-02-08  Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi
 
- v2.1.14: dovecot.index.cache fixes caused it to use more disk I/O
  and memory than necessary.
 ---
 
 I'm at that dreaded time where I'm starting to try to figure out what in 
 the world I'm going to do to try to improve our email situation.If I 
 end up using dovecot - which I probably will - I'd like to keep it fairly 
 up to date.  I'm trying to decide whether I want to use the sfe 
 repository, or write my own update script to keep it updated from the 
 sources.
 
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How often is sfe Dovecot updated?

2013-03-22 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
PS - Do you have any plans to package Dovecot's Pigeionhole Sieve?

http://pigeonhole.dovecot.org/index.html


On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:09 AM, Milan Jurik wrote:

 Hi,
 
 SFE dovecot has active maintainer these days. The problem is on my side,
 at least partially, because I am building SFE packages and pushing them
 to the repo. SFE build zone is down for last 2 weeks and admins had no
 time to look at it yet.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Milan
 
 On čt, 2013-03-21 at 15:00 -0600, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Who maintains the SFE package?  If somebody is already maintaining it, I 
 don't think I should butt in. (?)
 
 I kind of have my hands full trying to get a grip on video card device 
 drivers for Illumos, which I think OI desktop users would benefit greatly 
 from if I can figure it out, and get it through the whole acceptance 
 process.  If I give up on it -- and I don't give up very easily -- I'd be 
 more inclined to do some package work for OI.  I can't really take that on 
 right now, though.  At a later time, I might take you up on that offer, 
 though!
 
 I'm just wondering how often dovecot SFE gets updated?
 
 I don't think building a script to update dovecot from sources would be that 
 hard, and I wouldn't mind sharing it with others if I end up going that 
 route, but I find the whole thought of that a bit ugly.  
 
 
 
 On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
 
 I'm in exactly the same situation re dovecot. No doubt several others are, 
 too.
 
 Keeping an SFE package updated is probably no more work than keeping your 
 own installation updated from sources.
 
 Different, and a little bit of a learning curve to traverse, but not 
 terribly difficult even that.
 
 If that seems daunting, SVr4 packages can be kept updated and downloadable 
 from somewhere,
 and those are possibly a little easier to produce.
 
 Either way, others would benefit. If you decide to go down this road, call 
 on me, and I could try to help out.
 
 
 
 On 2013-03-21 19:36, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
 How often are the dovecot packages in sfe updated?
 
 service/network/imap/dovecot   2.1.14,5.11-0.151.1.7:20130208T203706Z
 
 It's one update behind from what's on the dovecot site, and interestingly 
 enough, the current version came out the same day as this was posted on 
 the sfe repository.
 
 ---
 v2.1.15 2013-02-08  Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi
 
- v2.1.14: dovecot.index.cache fixes caused it to use more disk I/O
  and memory than necessary.
 ---
 
 I'm at that dreaded time where I'm starting to try to figure out what in 
 the world I'm going to do to try to improve our email situation.If I 
 end up using dovecot - which I probably will - I'd like to keep it fairly 
 up to date.  I'm trying to decide whether I want to use the sfe 
 repository, or write my own update script to keep it updated from the 
 sources.
 
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How often is sfe Dovecot updated?

2013-03-22 Thread Hans J. Albertsson

So I take it you're the lead on doing SFE for OI??

Can you comment on what is the most accurate instruction for how to 
build OI SFE packages???


Looking at the tree under http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/SFE I see links 
that are no longer working and several other minor oddities.


Also, there's a tantalising reference to more modern methods that 
will be commented here.


I've asked about this before, but noone answered precisely this question:

Where is the correct documentation on how to do OI SFE repository 
packages at home?


AND, pehaps a more interesting question:

How to get involved as a maintainer of some particular package or set of 
packages???



On 2013-03-22 07:09, Milan Jurik wrote:

Hi,

SFE dovecot has active maintainer these days. The problem is on my side,
at least partially, because I am building SFE packages and pushing them
to the repo. SFE build zone is down for last 2 weeks and admins had no
time to look at it yet.

Best regards,

Milan

On čt, 2013-03-21 at 15:00 -0600, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:

Who maintains the SFE package?  If somebody is already maintaining it, I don't 
think I should butt in. (?)

I kind of have my hands full trying to get a grip on video card device drivers 
for Illumos, which I think OI desktop users would benefit greatly from if I can 
figure it out, and get it through the whole acceptance process.  If I give up 
on it -- and I don't give up very easily -- I'd be more inclined to do some 
package work for OI.  I can't really take that on right now, though.  At a 
later time, I might take you up on that offer, though!

I'm just wondering how often dovecot SFE gets updated?

I don't think building a script to update dovecot from sources would be that 
hard, and I wouldn't mind sharing it with others if I end up going that route, 
but I find the whole thought of that a bit ugly.



On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:


I'm in exactly the same situation re dovecot. No doubt several others are, too.

Keeping an SFE package updated is probably no more work than keeping your own 
installation updated from sources.

Different, and a little bit of a learning curve to traverse, but not terribly 
difficult even that.

If that seems daunting, SVr4 packages can be kept updated and downloadable from 
somewhere,
and those are possibly a little easier to produce.

Either way, others would benefit. If you decide to go down this road, call on 
me, and I could try to help out.



On 2013-03-21 19:36, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:

How often are the dovecot packages in sfe updated?

service/network/imap/dovecot2.1.14,5.11-0.151.1.7:20130208T203706Z

It's one update behind from what's on the dovecot site, and interestingly 
enough, the current version came out the same day as this was posted on the sfe 
repository.

---
v2.1.15 2013-02-08  Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi

- v2.1.14: dovecot.index.cache fixes caused it to use more disk I/O
  and memory than necessary.
---

I'm at that dreaded time where I'm starting to try to figure out what in the 
world I'm going to do to try to improve our email situation.If I end up 
using dovecot - which I probably will - I'd like to keep it fairly up to date.  
I'm trying to decide whether I want to use the sfe repository, or write my own 
update script to keep it updated from the sources.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How often is sfe Dovecot updated?

2013-03-22 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi,

On pá, 2013-03-22 at 08:06 +0100, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
 So I take it you're the lead on doing SFE for OI??
 

if you call me in such way as I am the only one publishing to official
SFE OI repo.

 Can you comment on what is the most accurate instruction for how to 
 build OI SFE packages???
 
 Looking at the tree under http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/SFE I see links 
 that are no longer working and several other minor oddities.
 
 Also, there's a tantalising reference to more modern methods that 
 will be commented here.
 
 I've asked about this before, but noone answered precisely this question:
 
 Where is the correct documentation on how to do OI SFE repository 
 packages at home?
 
 AND, pehaps a more interesting question:
 
 How to get involved as a maintainer of some particular package or set of 
 packages???
 

Both start on http://pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/spec-files-extra/ as you
discovered already. Try to build your first SVR4 package, then the next
step is easy, just create your local publisher with pkgrepo and export
PKGBUILD_IPS_SERVER (as URL) for pkgtool and it will publish IPS package
to that repo.

To be maintainer of some package, you have to prepare your CBE and
submit some updated spec for review to SFE mailing list. See the URL
above.

Best regards,

Milan

 
 On 2013-03-22 07:09, Milan Jurik wrote:
  Hi,
 
  SFE dovecot has active maintainer these days. The problem is on my side,
  at least partially, because I am building SFE packages and pushing them
  to the repo. SFE build zone is down for last 2 weeks and admins had no
  time to look at it yet.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Milan
 
  On čt, 2013-03-21 at 15:00 -0600, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Who maintains the SFE package?  If somebody is already maintaining it, I 
  don't think I should butt in. (?)
 
  I kind of have my hands full trying to get a grip on video card device 
  drivers for Illumos, which I think OI desktop users would benefit greatly 
  from if I can figure it out, and get it through the whole acceptance 
  process.  If I give up on it -- and I don't give up very easily -- I'd be 
  more inclined to do some package work for OI.  I can't really take that on 
  right now, though.  At a later time, I might take you up on that offer, 
  though!
 
  I'm just wondering how often dovecot SFE gets updated?
 
  I don't think building a script to update dovecot from sources would be 
  that hard, and I wouldn't mind sharing it with others if I end up going 
  that route, but I find the whole thought of that a bit ugly.
 
 
 
  On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
 
  I'm in exactly the same situation re dovecot. No doubt several others 
  are, too.
 
  Keeping an SFE package updated is probably no more work than keeping your 
  own installation updated from sources.
 
  Different, and a little bit of a learning curve to traverse, but not 
  terribly difficult even that.
 
  If that seems daunting, SVr4 packages can be kept updated and 
  downloadable from somewhere,
  and those are possibly a little easier to produce.
 
  Either way, others would benefit. If you decide to go down this road, 
  call on me, and I could try to help out.
 
 
 
  On 2013-03-21 19:36, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
  How often are the dovecot packages in sfe updated?
 
  service/network/imap/dovecot 2.1.14,5.11-0.151.1.7:20130208T203706Z
 
  It's one update behind from what's on the dovecot site, and 
  interestingly enough, the current version came out the same day as this 
  was posted on the sfe repository.
 
  ---
  v2.1.15 2013-02-08  Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi
 
   - v2.1.14: dovecot.index.cache fixes caused it to use more disk I/O
 and memory than necessary.
  ---
 
  I'm at that dreaded time where I'm starting to try to figure out what in 
  the world I'm going to do to try to improve our email situation.If I 
  end up using dovecot - which I probably will - I'd like to keep it 
  fairly up to date.  I'm trying to decide whether I want to use the sfe 
  repository, or write my own update script to keep it updated from the 
  sources.
 
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How often is sfe Dovecot updated?

2013-03-22 Thread Milan Jurik
On pá, 2013-03-22 at 01:00 -0600, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Great!  Do you normally keep dovecot reasonably up to date?
 

SFE has active dovecot maintainer. The problem is build system now, I
hope it will be solved soon.

Best regards,

Milan

 And, thanks for your contributions to OpenIndiana.
 
 
 
 On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:09 AM, Milan Jurik wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  SFE dovecot has active maintainer these days. The problem is on my side,
  at least partially, because I am building SFE packages and pushing them
  to the repo. SFE build zone is down for last 2 weeks and admins had no
  time to look at it yet.
  
  Best regards,
  
  Milan
  
  On čt, 2013-03-21 at 15:00 -0600, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Who maintains the SFE package?  If somebody is already maintaining it, I 
  don't think I should butt in. (?)
  
  I kind of have my hands full trying to get a grip on video card device 
  drivers for Illumos, which I think OI desktop users would benefit greatly 
  from if I can figure it out, and get it through the whole acceptance 
  process.  If I give up on it -- and I don't give up very easily -- I'd be 
  more inclined to do some package work for OI.  I can't really take that on 
  right now, though.  At a later time, I might take you up on that offer, 
  though!
  
  I'm just wondering how often dovecot SFE gets updated?
  
  I don't think building a script to update dovecot from sources would be 
  that hard, and I wouldn't mind sharing it with others if I end up going 
  that route, but I find the whole thought of that a bit ugly.  
  
  
  
  On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
  
  I'm in exactly the same situation re dovecot. No doubt several others 
  are, too.
  
  Keeping an SFE package updated is probably no more work than keeping your 
  own installation updated from sources.
  
  Different, and a little bit of a learning curve to traverse, but not 
  terribly difficult even that.
  
  If that seems daunting, SVr4 packages can be kept updated and 
  downloadable from somewhere,
  and those are possibly a little easier to produce.
  
  Either way, others would benefit. If you decide to go down this road, 
  call on me, and I could try to help out.
  
  
  
  On 2013-03-21 19:36, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
  How often are the dovecot packages in sfe updated?
  
  service/network/imap/dovecot 2.1.14,5.11-0.151.1.7:20130208T203706Z
  
  It's one update behind from what's on the dovecot site, and 
  interestingly enough, the current version came out the same day as this 
  was posted on the sfe repository.
  
  ---
  v2.1.15 2013-02-08  Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi
  
   - v2.1.14: dovecot.index.cache fixes caused it to use more disk I/O
 and memory than necessary.
  ---
  
  I'm at that dreaded time where I'm starting to try to figure out what in 
  the world I'm going to do to try to improve our email situation.If I 
  end up using dovecot - which I probably will - I'd like to keep it 
  fairly up to date.  I'm trying to decide whether I want to use the sfe 
  repository, or write my own update script to keep it updated from the 
  sources.
  
  
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] How often is sfe Dovecot updated?

2013-03-21 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
How often are the dovecot packages in sfe updated?

service/network/imap/dovecot2.1.14,5.11-0.151.1.7:20130208T203706Z

It's one update behind from what's on the dovecot site, and interestingly 
enough, the current version came out the same day as this was posted on the sfe 
repository.

---
v2.1.15 2013-02-08  Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi

- v2.1.14: dovecot.index.cache fixes caused it to use more disk I/O
  and memory than necessary.
---

I'm at that dreaded time where I'm starting to try to figure out what in the 
world I'm going to do to try to improve our email situation.If I end up 
using dovecot - which I probably will - I'd like to keep it fairly up to date.  
I'm trying to decide whether I want to use the sfe repository, or write my own 
update script to keep it updated from the sources.  


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How often is sfe Dovecot updated?

2013-03-21 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Who maintains the SFE package?  If somebody is already maintaining it, I don't 
think I should butt in. (?)

I kind of have my hands full trying to get a grip on video card device drivers 
for Illumos, which I think OI desktop users would benefit greatly from if I can 
figure it out, and get it through the whole acceptance process.  If I give up 
on it -- and I don't give up very easily -- I'd be more inclined to do some 
package work for OI.  I can't really take that on right now, though.  At a 
later time, I might take you up on that offer, though!

I'm just wondering how often dovecot SFE gets updated?

I don't think building a script to update dovecot from sources would be that 
hard, and I wouldn't mind sharing it with others if I end up going that route, 
but I find the whole thought of that a bit ugly.  



On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:

 I'm in exactly the same situation re dovecot. No doubt several others are, 
 too.
 
 Keeping an SFE package updated is probably no more work than keeping your own 
 installation updated from sources.
 
 Different, and a little bit of a learning curve to traverse, but not terribly 
 difficult even that.
 
 If that seems daunting, SVr4 packages can be kept updated and downloadable 
 from somewhere,
 and those are possibly a little easier to produce.
 
 Either way, others would benefit. If you decide to go down this road, call on 
 me, and I could try to help out.
 
 
 
 On 2013-03-21 19:36, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
 How often are the dovecot packages in sfe updated?
 
 service/network/imap/dovecot 2.1.14,5.11-0.151.1.7:20130208T203706Z
 
 It's one update behind from what's on the dovecot site, and interestingly 
 enough, the current version came out the same day as this was posted on the 
 sfe repository.
 
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 v2.1.15 2013-02-08  Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi
 
  - v2.1.14: dovecot.index.cache fixes caused it to use more disk I/O
and memory than necessary.
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 I'm at that dreaded time where I'm starting to try to figure out what in the 
 world I'm going to do to try to improve our email situation.If I end up 
 using dovecot - which I probably will - I'd like to keep it fairly up to 
 date.  I'm trying to decide whether I want to use the sfe repository, or 
 write my own update script to keep it updated from the sources.
 
 
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