Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI as file storage server
Our management received a quotation for a SYNOLOGY RackStation RS812+. Although the specs are quite impressive i still think i could get better results and more functionality with a server running OI. Main requested functions are: Backupserver with timebackups Fileserver with syncfuntion to/from tablets (android/apple) Anyone has any experience with this? Op 14 sep. 2012 om 23:47 heeft Jay Heyl j...@frelled.us het volgende geschreven: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Neddy, NH. Nam nam...@nd24.net wrote: stick with it more. But I doubt about in my real case, my storage server will be working as a file level storage more than block level storeage. Does it slow down ZFS performance? I don't claim to be an expert on this. I'm just a guy running a rather large home file server using ZFS. I have a ten-drive RAIDZ2 array. The drives are Samsung F4 2TB drives. Nothing fancy. The drives are not especially fast. In this configuration I can max out my GB Ethernet without appearing to strain ZFS in any way. Your mileage may vary. Admittedly, I'm also not supporting dozens of users so that may affect things. At most my server will be supporting some BitTorrent operations, streaming of a movie, and scanning of drives from another computer. It is easily three times faster than it actually needs to be to serve peak demand. I should also point out there are tricks you can do with ZFS using SSDs dedicated to logging and such that apparently speed up write operations considerably. I've done none of these. As for setting up a test system, you can use a live boot CD to boot OI on any computer you want to try. I did that initially and used a few USB flash drives to set up test scenarios. It wasn't totally realistic, but it gave me a few for how things worked. When you're done, pop out the CD, pull out the flash drives, and you're right back where you were. Couldn't be easier. -- Jay ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI as file storage server
Hi everybody, I have a question and may somebody help me to find the solution please? Let say, my current system where I'm working is too old and it's easy to break up if something wrong happens (lucky for me, there's still nothing wrong). And I feel unhappy with it. In fact, we're running Novell Netware 6.5 to store sharing files between dept., users. It provides some more features like: windows logon restriction, network drive mapping rules, etc ...Now it's running out of free space, and adding more HDDs is an option. I've read some ZFS articles on Internet like: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3963/zfs-building-testing-and-benchmarking/ and on this mailing list, people are using ZFS and there are more advantages in ZFS than Netware in storage competence. So I'd like to stick with it more. But I doubt about in my real case, my storage server will be working as a file level storage more than block level storeage. Does it slow down ZFS performance? And one more point, I'd plan to use OI + napp-it for file sharing, is there any solution to recover one(s) file(s) that was accidentally deleted by user but I don't have to roll back the whole storage? I know I should setup a system to test myself, but my current condition doesn't support me. So I think somebody who already runs OS/OI for long time should have experienced and give me the guidance. Excuse me if my questions are dump, and I highly appreciate your helps. Best regards, ~Neddie ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI as file storage server
On 09/14/2012 09:07 AM, Neddy, NH. Nam wrote: Hi everybody, I have a question and may somebody help me to find the solution please? Let say, my current system where I'm working is too old and it's easy to break up if something wrong happens (lucky for me, there's still nothing wrong). And I feel unhappy with it. In fact, we're running Novell Netware 6.5 to store sharing files between dept., users. It provides some more features like: windows logon restriction, network drive mapping rules, etc ...Now it's running out of free space, and adding more HDDs is an option. I don't know about all the Windows stuff, but you should be able to get most of this using Samba (but don't quote me on that). I've read some ZFS articles on Internet like: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3963/zfs-building-testing-and-benchmarking/ and on this mailing list, people are using ZFS and there are more advantages in ZFS than Netware in storage competence. So I'd like to stick with it more. But I doubt about in my real case, my storage server will be working as a file level storage more than block level storeage. Does it slow down ZFS performance? Nothing to worry about, ZFS excels at both file and block storage. Illumos has pretty much the most advanced and feature-full NFSv4 implementation on the market and also natively supports SMB file sharing. You can install Samba and get full AD integration, if necessary. And one more point, I'd plan to use OI + napp-it for file sharing, is there any solution to recover one(s) file(s) that was accidentally deleted by user but I don't have to roll back the whole storage? I don't know about napp-it specifically, but you can easily recover lost files by simply cloning a previous snapshot into a full filesystem, mounting that and copying out the files you've lost. You can then destroy the clone when you don't need it anymore (the original snapshot remains unaffected). Excuse me if my questions are dump, and I highly appreciate your helps. Hey, that's what community mailing lists are for (and your questions most certainly aren't dumb, don't worry). Cheers, -- Saso ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI as file storage server
And one more point, I'd plan to use OI + napp-it for file sharing, is there any solution to recover one(s) file(s) that was accidentally deleted by user but I don't have to roll back the whole storage? I don't know about napp-it specifically, but you can easily recover lost files by simply cloning a previous snapshot into a full filesystem, mounting that and copying out the files you've lost. You can then destroy the clone when you don't need it anymore (the original snapshot remains unaffected). 3 easiest ways to recover files from snaps: Use Windows previous version (Supported with CIFS server) or use TimeSlider on OI (select a folder in OI filebrowser Nautilus and go back in time.) or use Midnight cCommander at CLI to access .zfs/snapshot folder do not forget to create snapshots often enough. (see napp-it menu jobs) ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI as file storage server
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Neddy, NH. Nam nam...@nd24.net wrote: stick with it more. But I doubt about in my real case, my storage server will be working as a file level storage more than block level storeage. Does it slow down ZFS performance? I don't claim to be an expert on this. I'm just a guy running a rather large home file server using ZFS. I have a ten-drive RAIDZ2 array. The drives are Samsung F4 2TB drives. Nothing fancy. The drives are not especially fast. In this configuration I can max out my GB Ethernet without appearing to strain ZFS in any way. Your mileage may vary. Admittedly, I'm also not supporting dozens of users so that may affect things. At most my server will be supporting some BitTorrent operations, streaming of a movie, and scanning of drives from another computer. It is easily three times faster than it actually needs to be to serve peak demand. I should also point out there are tricks you can do with ZFS using SSDs dedicated to logging and such that apparently speed up write operations considerably. I've done none of these. As for setting up a test system, you can use a live boot CD to boot OI on any computer you want to try. I did that initially and used a few USB flash drives to set up test scenarios. It wasn't totally realistic, but it gave me a few for how things worked. When you're done, pop out the CD, pull out the flash drives, and you're right back where you were. Couldn't be easier. -- Jay ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
