Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-07 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss


> On 6. Feb 2021, at 11:16, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6. Feb 2021, at 08:54, Harry Putnam > > wrote:
>> 
>> Gary Mills mailto:gary_mi...@fastmail.fm> 
>> >> writes:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 01:06:12PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I've been running an hp xw8600 for several years and for about 5-6 of
 those yrs running openindiana OS.
 
 A month ago or so I shutdown OI to change out a couple of disks.
 
 Once I did that I have not been able to use any of the oi installation
 media I've made up.  Both usb stick and DVD fails to boot,  No matter
 how I set the boot order. And even though those  same stick media will
 boot my HP Z800 to live media for OI install.
 
 I've tried all I can think, changing usb ports,  Trying ISO from CD.
 The xw8600 has two of those,  I set the boot order to CDrom first but it
 goes right buy with out a response and tries to boot from disk.
>>> 
>>> It sounds as if you are not really setting the boot order in the BIOS.
>>> Could it really that simple?  HP does do some funny things with their
>>> BIOS.  Are you saving your changes after you make them?  Does the BIOS
>>> show the new boot order after the boot fails?
>> 
>> Here is how real the boot order is: First I can look at the setting in
>> bios. Save and Close bios... then reopen and see my setting is still
>> there.  Further there is a switch early in boot where you can click F9
>> and wind up at a boot prompt where again I can see the order is correct.
>> 
>> Currently I'm tying to install from and older version 2018.10.  Burnded to 
>> DVD
>> today.  When the boot prompt opens I see CDrom at the top , usb next
>> then hhd.  I press cdrom... it pauses a few moments then reverts to
>> the install on hard disk of ubuntu (zfs on root).
>> 
>> It tell me there is no image on the cdrom.  I put it on a different
>> HP, this one HP Z800... and I'll give a guess what happens... it boots
>> into the OI on the cdrom.
>> 
>> I can assure you I have set the boot order depending on what media I'm
>> attempting. 
> 
> 
> I guess it does not really like the hybrid iso image and/or dual BIOS/UEFI 
> image. Unfortunately, to test what is exactly the issue, it means we should 
> create test image with less options (one without hybrid — that is, disk 
> partition) and if this does not help, one without EFI boot support.
> 
> Also, please check (if not already done) for firmware update.
> 
> 
>> 
>>> Some systems will not boot from USB, but in that case they will still
>>> boot from a CD reader.  I don't think that's your problem.
>> 
>> So far that has not happened here.  Except some years ago on this same
>> host when I made my initial install, clear back to build 147.
>> 
>> And a couple of months ago, I burned a USB stick with ubuntu on it.
>> After getting sick of dicking around trying to install OI
>> 
>> Booting from that stick right into ubuntu installation immediately.
>> 
>> I want to say it points to our software being a problem where others
>> work. But, I'm so unskilled as to be nearly certain that the fault is
>> right in myu pea brain somewhere.
> 
> 
> The same deal with stick; fortunately it is a bit easier to test (does not 
> involve burning the cd/dvd). I can prepare usb image(s) for test, but some 
> hours later - need to go afk now.
> 

Can you test with this USB stick image: OI-hipster-text-20201031-tsoome.usb 


rgds,
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-06 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss


> On 6. Feb 2021, at 08:54, Harry Putnam  wrote:
> 
> Gary Mills mailto:gary_mi...@fastmail.fm>> writes:
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 01:06:12PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>> I've been running an hp xw8600 for several years and for about 5-6 of
>>> those yrs running openindiana OS.
>>> 
>>> A month ago or so I shutdown OI to change out a couple of disks.
>>> 
>>> Once I did that I have not been able to use any of the oi installation
>>> media I've made up.  Both usb stick and DVD fails to boot,  No matter
>>> how I set the boot order. And even though those  same stick media will
>>> boot my HP Z800 to live media for OI install.
>>> 
>>> I've tried all I can think, changing usb ports,  Trying ISO from CD.
>>> The xw8600 has two of those,  I set the boot order to CDrom first but it
>>> goes right buy with out a response and tries to boot from disk.
>> 
>> It sounds as if you are not really setting the boot order in the BIOS.
>> Could it really that simple?  HP does do some funny things with their
>> BIOS.  Are you saving your changes after you make them?  Does the BIOS
>> show the new boot order after the boot fails?
> 
> Here is how real the boot order is: First I can look at the setting in
> bios. Save and Close bios... then reopen and see my setting is still
> there.  Further there is a switch early in boot where you can click F9
> and wind up at a boot prompt where again I can see the order is correct.
> 
> Currently I'm tying to install from and older version 2018.10.  Burnded to DVD
> today.  When the boot prompt opens I see CDrom at the top , usb next
> then hhd.  I press cdrom... it pauses a few moments then reverts to
> the install on hard disk of ubuntu (zfs on root).
> 
> It tell me there is no image on the cdrom.  I put it on a different
> HP, this one HP Z800... and I'll give a guess what happens... it boots
> into the OI on the cdrom.
> 
> I can assure you I have set the boot order depending on what media I'm
> attempting. 


I guess it does not really like the hybrid iso image and/or dual BIOS/UEFI 
image. Unfortunately, to test what is exactly the issue, it means we should 
create test image with less options (one without hybrid — that is, disk 
partition) and if this does not help, one without EFI boot support.

Also, please check (if not already done) for firmware update.


> 
>> Some systems will not boot from USB, but in that case they will still
>> boot from a CD reader.  I don't think that's your problem.
> 
> So far that has not happened here.  Except some years ago on this same
> host when I made my initial install, clear back to build 147.
> 
> And a couple of months ago, I burned a USB stick with ubuntu on it.
> After getting sick of dicking around trying to install OI
> 
> Booting from that stick right into ubuntu installation immediately.
> 
> I want to say it points to our software being a problem where others
> work. But, I'm so unskilled as to be nearly certain that the fault is
> right in myu pea brain somewhere.


The same deal with stick; fortunately it is a bit easier to test (does not 
involve burning the cd/dvd). I can prepare usb image(s) for test, but some 
hours later - need to go afk now.

rgds,
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Gary Mills  writes:

> On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 01:06:12PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> I've been running an hp xw8600 for several years and for about 5-6 of
>> those yrs running openindiana OS.
>> 
>> A month ago or so I shutdown OI to change out a couple of disks.
>> 
>> Once I did that I have not been able to use any of the oi installation
>> media I've made up.  Both usb stick and DVD fails to boot,  No matter
>> how I set the boot order. And even though those  same stick media will
>> boot my HP Z800 to live media for OI install.
>> 
>> I've tried all I can think, changing usb ports,  Trying ISO from CD.
>> The xw8600 has two of those,  I set the boot order to CDrom first but it
>> goes right buy with out a response and tries to boot from disk.
>
> It sounds as if you are not really setting the boot order in the BIOS.
> Could it really that simple?  HP does do some funny things with their
> BIOS.  Are you saving your changes after you make them?  Does the BIOS
> show the new boot order after the boot fails?

Here is how real the boot order is: First I can look at the setting in
bios. Save and Close bios... then reopen and see my setting is still
there.  Further there is a switch early in boot where you can click F9
and wind up at a boot prompt where again I can see the order is correct.

Currently I'm tying to install from and older version 2018.10.  Burnded to DVD
today.  When the boot prompt opens I see CDrom at the top , usb next
then hhd.  I press cdrom... it pauses a few moments then reverts to
the install on hard disk of ubuntu (zfs on root).

It tell me there is no image on the cdrom.  I put it on a different
HP, this one HP Z800... and I'll give a guess what happens... it boots
into the OI on the cdrom.

I can assure you I have set the boot order depending on what media I'm
attempting. 

> Some systems will not boot from USB, but in that case they will still
> boot from a CD reader.  I don't think that's your problem.

So far that has not happened here.  Except some years ago on this same
host when I made my initial install, clear back to build 147.

And a couple of months ago, I burned a USB stick with ubuntu on it.
After getting sick of dicking around trying to install OI

Booting from that stick right into ubuntu installation immediately.

I want to say it points to our software being a problem where others
work. But, I'm so unskilled as to be nearly certain that the fault is
right in myu pea brain somewhere.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-04 Thread Gary Mills
On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 01:06:12PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
> I've been running an hp xw8600 for several years and for about 5-6 of
> those yrs running openindiana OS.
> 
> A month ago or so I shutdown OI to change out a couple of disks.
> 
> Once I did that I have not been able to use any of the oi installation
> media I've made up.  Both usb stick and DVD fails to boot,  No matter
> how I set the boot order. And even though those  same stick media will
> boot my HP Z800 to live media for OI install.
> 
> I've tried all I can think, changing usb ports,  Trying ISO from CD.
> The xw8600 has two of those,  I set the boot order to CDrom first but it
> goes right buy with out a response and tries to boot from disk.

It sounds as if you are not really setting the boot order in the BIOS.
Could it really that simple?  HP does do some funny things with their
BIOS.  Are you saving your changes after you make them?  Does the BIOS
show the new boot order after the boot fails?

Some systems will not boot from USB, but in that case they will still
boot from a CD reader.  I don't think that's your problem.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-04 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss


> On 4. Feb 2021, at 17:40, Stephan Althaus  
> wrote:
> 
> On 02/04/21 16:12, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Carl Brewer  writes:
>> 
>>> None that I can do to help, but can you continue to document what you do?
>> I will try but make no bones about only being about half literate.
>> English is not my first language... I learned to speak in Wyoming
>> hill-billy for the first 10 or so years.  hehe.
>> 
>>> I experienced something very similar, and ended up backing out to an
>>> older OI build and doing pkg updates, instead of trying to install
>>> more recent ISO's, they just would not install for me either.
>> Interesting, and I thought I was the lone ranger and blamed myself for
>> not getting it right.
>> 
>> However, I haven't noticed much on the newsgroup about the
>> problem... But I haven't been watching/reading full time either.
>> 
>> I had not thought of your workaround...It should have passed through
>> my pea brain at some point.  Do you happen to remember which old
>> release you got to work?  That might be worth documenting as well.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> +1
> 
> If you have a spare old system, (before 2014, legacy-only)
> you could try to install the current release 2020.10 text-install there,
> and swap the target disk in to the HP.
> 
> Hope you get your HP online again soon!
> 

with USB stick, you can exclude “bad” stick by testing it with same host but 
different os image on it; if then the stick will wirk, it means, the 
partitioning is not OK.

About partitoning; we are using GPT on USB image, but with GPT, the possible 
issue is that the system may want to check backup label, if it is not present, 
it may consider whole label bad… Possible fix there is to write the image to 
stick and then use GPT aware partitioning tool to write label and therefore we 
will get backup label to the end of the media.

If that wont do, there is other option:)

rgds,
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-04 Thread Stephan Althaus

On 02/04/21 16:12, Harry Putnam wrote:

Carl Brewer  writes:


None that I can do to help, but can you continue to document what you do?

I will try but make no bones about only being about half literate.
English is not my first language... I learned to speak in Wyoming
hill-billy for the first 10 or so years.  hehe.


I experienced something very similar, and ended up backing out to an
older OI build and doing pkg updates, instead of trying to install
more recent ISO's, they just would not install for me either.

Interesting, and I thought I was the lone ranger and blamed myself for
not getting it right.

However, I haven't noticed much on the newsgroup about the
problem... But I haven't been watching/reading full time either.

I had not thought of your workaround...It should have passed through
my pea brain at some point.  Do you happen to remember which old
release you got to work?  That might be worth documenting as well.




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+1

If you have a spare old system, (before 2014, legacy-only)
you could try to install the current release 2020.10 text-install there,
and swap the target disk in to the HP.

Hope you get your HP online again soon!

Greetings,

Stephan



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Carl Brewer  writes:

> None that I can do to help, but can you continue to document what you do?

I will try but make no bones about only being about half literate.
English is not my first language... I learned to speak in Wyoming
hill-billy for the first 10 or so years.  hehe.

> I experienced something very similar, and ended up backing out to an
> older OI build and doing pkg updates, instead of trying to install
> more recent ISO's, they just would not install for me either.

Interesting, and I thought I was the lone ranger and blamed myself for
not getting it right.

However, I haven't noticed much on the newsgroup about the
problem... But I haven't been watching/reading full time either.

I had not thought of your workaround...It should have passed through
my pea brain at some point.  Do you happen to remember which old
release you got to work?  That might be worth documenting as well.




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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Tony Brian Albers
I've installed OI many times on a lot of different hardware.

I've learned that a number of things are very important when it comes to 
booting on a USB stick:

1. Make sure that you actually use the .usb image file to write a usb 
stick (yes, it's obvious, I know)

2. Make sure that you use the right blocksize, i.e. dd on linux:
$ sudo dd if=OI-hipster-text-20201031.usb of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
   ^
3. Make sure that your BIOS is updated to newest release, even though 
the newest release may be 5 years old.

4. Avoid UEFI of any kind.

HTH

/tony

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Chris

On 2021-02-03 16:41, John D Groenveld wrote:
In message , 
Bob

 Friesenhahn writes:

Yes, dd works the same using Linux.  Just make sure to select the
correct device to write to or your system may be destroyed.


The handbook offers good advice for identifying the correct
device name:
http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/getting-started/#creating-a-hipster-usb-drive>

FWIW (as it's not mentioned in the above link)
If you have FreeBSD installed. I have always use the following:
# my USB stick is located as /dev/da1
# OI image is OI-hipster-gui-20201031.usb in current dir (PWD)

% dd if=OI-hipster-gui-20201031.usb of=/dev/da1 bs=1m conv=sync

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , Bob
 Friesenhahn writes:
>Yes, dd works the same using Linux.  Just make sure to select the 
>correct device to write to or your system may be destroyed.

The handbook offers good advice for identifying the correct
device name:
http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/getting-started/#creating-a-hipster-usb-drive>

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Carl Brewer

On 4/02/2021 11:31 am, Harry Putnam wrote:



Any more instructions I need to know before attempting to burn one
with dd on linux OS?


None that I can do to help, but can you continue to document what you do?

I experienced something very similar, and ended up backing out to an 
older OI build and doing pkg updates, instead of trying to install more 
recent ISO's, they just would not install for me either.



Thank you,
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, Harry Putnam wrote:


I don't have an OI host running currently but is it not possible to do
the dd bit from linux or even windows?


Yes, dd works the same using Linux.  Just make sure to select the 
correct device to write to or your system may be destroyed.


Bob
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
 writes:

>> On 3. Feb 2021, at 23:11, Harry Putnam  wrote:
>> 
>> Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
>>  writes:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
 So, I'm hoping someone here will have sage advice about booting from
 network somehow.
 
 Is there a way to circumvent both usb and DVD boots and do something
 over the network to get oi installed?
 
>>> 
>>> What exactly is happening? do you have any logs, screenshots etc?
>> 
>> Well no, what's happening happens before any of that can take place.
>> 
>> The DVD or USB install  media is ignored.  And eventually the ubuntu
>> with zfs on root comes up as it is installed on HDD,
>
>
> UEFI or BIOS boot? for UEFI, we do not support secure boot. Not yet
> anyhow. If you can get to UEFI shell, you can start loader manually
> from command line.

No UEFI

> for usb, are you using .iso or .usb image? How do you write to stick?
> note, just dd is enough, no previously used header file and usbcopy
> script is needed.

I tried both iso and usb. Tried *.iso writing to stick on windows with
Rufus. I've forgotten how USB was done. ... its been a while ago.
There was another tool whos name I've forgotten that was recommended by
someone on this list .. that was supposed to superceed usbcopy
The one thing I did not do is dd as you suggest.

It just came to me to today to try again {hence my post} ... as I'm
getting a bit fed up with the linux zfs. So, I have forgotten some of
the bits involved. All I did this time was try a usb stick that I know
for certain will boot my HP Z800 into OI live installer.  But it was
totally ignored... that is what prompted my recent post.

You mentioned `dd' And somewhere I remember it being to a Raw port
.. I think you might mean performed on OI.

I don't have an OI host running currently but is it not possible to do
the dd bit from linux or even windows?

Would the `dd' method clear out any guff on a new unused usb stick and
thereby do a clean burn?

It would tickle the heck out of me to finally get a working usb stick.

I was considering attempting to install omnios.
The reason I think it might work, is that even though I could not get
the right combination to successfully boot into our IO install media,
I found that on the very first attempt with ubuntu.iso burned to USB
with rufus, I succeeded in installing ubuntu with zfs on root.

I'm half of a mind to risk another ruined usb stick since I bought a
even dozen for the last go around... (I ruined 5 before calling it
quits last time)

Any more instructions I need to know before attempting to burn one
with dd on linux OS?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss



> On 3. Feb 2021, at 23:11, Harry Putnam  wrote:
> 
> Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
>  writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> So, I'm hoping someone here will have sage advice about booting from
>>> network somehow.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to circumvent both usb and DVD boots and do something
>>> over the network to get oi installed?
>>> 
>> 
>> What exactly is happening? do you have any logs, screenshots etc?
> 
> Well no, what's happening happens before any of that can take place.
> 
> The DVD or USB install  media is ignored.  And eventually the ubuntu
> with zfs on root comes up as it is installed on HDD,


UEFI or BIOS boot? for UEFI, we do not support secure boot. Not yet anyhow. If 
you can get to UEFI shell, you can start loader manually from command line.

for usb, are you using .iso or .usb image? How do you write to stick? note, 
just dd is enough, no previously used header file and usbcopy script is needed.

rgds,
toomas

> 
> No logs, and screen shot would show a blank screen
> 
> The install media being ignored is done silently.
> 
> The hellish part is that I have tested the same media (both usb and
> dvd) (I mean the very exact same media, not similar or whatever) on
> another host (hp Z800)and they work as expected.  That is, the host
> comes up displaying the install media ready to go.
> 
> Of course I have checked and rechecked that the boot setting matches
> the selected media.  IE, usb at the top or Cdrom at the top.
> 
> I've tried with the usb media in every available port with no change.
> 
> Checked the boot order again and again
> 
> Another kicker is that sometime a few yrs ago I installed oi with one
> or the other of usb or dvd.  Which one is lost to the mists of poor
> memory.
> 
> Further, recently I gave up in disgust on oi and used an usb stick with
> ubuntu install media, and it worked on the first try.
> 
> Now, can you speak to any possibilities of a network install?
> 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
 writes:

[...]

>> So, I'm hoping someone here will have sage advice about booting from
>> network somehow.
>> 
>> Is there a way to circumvent both usb and DVD boots and do something
>> over the network to get oi installed?
>> 
>
> What exactly is happening? do you have any logs, screenshots etc?

Well no, what's happening happens before any of that can take place.

The DVD or USB install  media is ignored.  And eventually the ubuntu
with zfs on root comes up as it is installed on HDD,

No logs, and screen shot would show a blank screen

The install media being ignored is done silently.

The hellish part is that I have tested the same media (both usb and
dvd) (I mean the very exact same media, not similar or whatever) on
another host (hp Z800)and they work as expected.  That is, the host
comes up displaying the install media ready to go.

Of course I have checked and rechecked that the boot setting matches
the selected media.  IE, usb at the top or Cdrom at the top.

I've tried with the usb media in every available port with no change.

Checked the boot order again and again

Another kicker is that sometime a few yrs ago I installed oi with one
or the other of usb or dvd.  Which one is lost to the mists of poor
memory.

Further, recently I gave up in disgust on oi and used an usb stick with
ubuntu install media, and it worked on the first try.

Now, can you speak to any possibilities of a network install?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss



> On 3. Feb 2021, at 20:06, Harry Putnam  wrote:
> 
> I've been running an hp xw8600 for several years and for about 5-6 of
> those yrs running openindiana OS.
> 
> A month ago or so I shutdown OI to change out a couple of disks.
> 
> Once I did that I have not been able to use any of the oi installation
> media I've made up.  Both usb stick and DVD fails to boot,  No matter
> how I set the boot order. And even though those  same stick media will
> boot my HP Z800 to live media for OI install.
> 
> I've tried all I can think, changing usb ports,  Trying ISO from CD.
> The xw8600 has two of those,  I set the boot order to CDrom first but it
> goes right buy with out a response and tries to boot from disk.
> 
> Finally I got really sick of not having my zfs machine and booted that
> dog with usb with ubuntu media which went off without a problem.
> 
> Very discouraging.  Now running ubuntu with zfs on root.
> Several times since I've tried newly made up usb sticks.  And again
> any one of the three I've made will boot my HP Z800 with no problem.
> 
> So the sob story kind of ends there...
> 
> I'm out of ideas and running ubuntu with zfs on that host.  I still
> want OI on it.
> 
> So, I'm hoping someone here will have sage advice about booting from
> network somehow.
> 
> Is there a way to circumvent both usb and DVD boots and do something
> over the network to get oi installed?
> 

What exactly is happening? do you have any logs, screenshots etc?

rgds,
toomas

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] catching hell getting booted

2021-02-03 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been running an hp xw8600 for several years and for about 5-6 of
those yrs running openindiana OS.

A month ago or so I shutdown OI to change out a couple of disks.

Once I did that I have not been able to use any of the oi installation
media I've made up.  Both usb stick and DVD fails to boot,  No matter
how I set the boot order. And even though those  same stick media will
boot my HP Z800 to live media for OI install.

I've tried all I can think, changing usb ports,  Trying ISO from CD.
The xw8600 has two of those,  I set the boot order to CDrom first but it
goes right buy with out a response and tries to boot from disk.

Finally I got really sick of not having my zfs machine and booted that
dog with usb with ubuntu media which went off without a problem.

Very discouraging.  Now running ubuntu with zfs on root.
Several times since I've tried newly made up usb sticks.  And again
any one of the three I've made will boot my HP Z800 with no problem.

So the sob story kind of ends there...

I'm out of ideas and running ubuntu with zfs on that host.  I still
want OI on it.

So, I'm hoping someone here will have sage advice about booting from
network somehow.

Is there a way to circumvent both usb and DVD boots and do something
over the network to get oi installed?


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