[OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio 17 for test
If some one interested to test or review here is the current version of Pulseaudio, on http://pkg.toc.de/userland you can find the latest version of pulseaudio packaged for OI. (but without Gary's patch for #9732) Regards -- Carsten ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio issue
since one month or so I see the problem that the volume control applet is not working any more for me and on logout I get the notice that mate-settings-daemon is still running The reason behind is that there some pulsaudio processes hang: 1399 /usr/sbin/lightdm 2259 lightdm --session-child 13 25 2268 mate-session --debug 2312 /usr/lib/amd64/mate/mate-settings-daemon 2314 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog 2315 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog 2316 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog 2318 /usr/lib/amd64/pulse/gsettings-helper Some strange is the first pulseaudio process has a zombie in his stomach 314: /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog - thread# 1 / lwp# 1 - 7fffaf40a28a read (7, 7fffb6c0, 4) 7fffa7fa6f32 pa_read () + 22 7fffa7fa705e pa_loop_read () + 5e 0040d645 main () + 18e5 00407477 _start_crt () + 87 004073d8 _start () + 18 - thread# 2 / lwp# 2 - 7fffa7fd4a30 internal_thread_func(), exit value = 0x ** zombie (exited, not detached, not yet joined) ** I see this on my laptop. Has this anyone seen too? And an idea how to get rid of it? -- Carsten ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.
Check the current sound level with audioctl. Le Samedi 10 mars 2018, Francis.D a écrit : > This morning I tested in liveDVD solaris 11.3 to see the audio support on > the Laptop. There's a big difference. The sound is clear and heavy. Yet the > drivers are the same. > > Maybe the sound management under Mate is less efficient. > > I did the same test on My desktop with the asus D1 sound card and the > fabulous audiocmi driver and I don't have sound so much under solaris 11.3. > > > > 2018-03-10 13:52 GMT-05:00 Aurelien Larcher: > > > Hello, > > > > Le Samedi 10 mars 2018, Francis.D a écrit : > > > After updating and rebooting, I have a good sound improvement on my > > Lenovo > > > Laptop T400. > > > > > > It's not as strong as under Linux in comparaison but there is a good > > > improvement. > > > > > > big thank > > > > Good to hear! > > > > With some chipsets it seems that the sound level can be further increased > > since pulseaudio may only use the volume set by OSS as maximum limit. > > The default setting for OSS is 75% of the maximum provided by the > > hardware, so setting the volume control with audioctl may improve the > > situation. > > > > > > > > 2018-03-10 10:46 GMT-05:00 Aurélien Larcher > >: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin. > > > > As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration > > files > > > > when version or bitness is changed ... > > > > If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the > > > > configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ... > > > > > > > > Aurelien > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > > > ___ > > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > ___ > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > -- > > Envoyé depuis mon Jolla > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.
This morning I tested in liveDVD solaris 11.3 to see the audio support on the Laptop. There's a big difference. The sound is clear and heavy. Yet the drivers are the same. Maybe the sound management under Mate is less efficient. I did the same test on My desktop with the asus D1 sound card and the fabulous audiocmi driver and I don't have sound so much under solaris 11.3. 2018-03-10 13:52 GMT-05:00 Aurelien Larcher: > Hello, > > Le Samedi 10 mars 2018, Francis.D a écrit : > > After updating and rebooting, I have a good sound improvement on my > Lenovo > > Laptop T400. > > > > It's not as strong as under Linux in comparaison but there is a good > > improvement. > > > > big thank > > Good to hear! > > With some chipsets it seems that the sound level can be further increased > since pulseaudio may only use the volume set by OSS as maximum limit. > The default setting for OSS is 75% of the maximum provided by the > hardware, so setting the volume control with audioctl may improve the > situation. > > > > > 2018-03-10 10:46 GMT-05:00 Aurélien Larcher >: > > > > > Hi, > > > Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin. > > > As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration > files > > > when version or bitness is changed ... > > > If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the > > > configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ... > > > > > > Aurelien > > > > > > -- > > > --- > > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > > ___ > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > -- > Envoyé depuis mon Jolla > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.
Hello, Le Samedi 10 mars 2018, Francis.D a écrit : > After updating and rebooting, I have a good sound improvement on my Lenovo > Laptop T400. > > It's not as strong as under Linux in comparaison but there is a good > improvement. > > big thank Good to hear! With some chipsets it seems that the sound level can be further increased since pulseaudio may only use the volume set by OSS as maximum limit. The default setting for OSS is 75% of the maximum provided by the hardware, so setting the volume control with audioctl may improve the situation. > > 2018-03-10 10:46 GMT-05:00 Aurélien Larcher: > > > Hi, > > Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin. > > As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration files > > when version or bitness is changed ... > > If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the > > configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ... > > > > Aurelien > > > > -- > > --- > > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.
After updating and rebooting, I have a good sound improvement on my Lenovo Laptop T400. It's not as strong as under Linux in comparaison but there is a good improvement. big thank 2018-03-10 10:46 GMT-05:00 Aurélien Larcher: > Hi, > Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin. > As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration files > when version or bitness is changed ... > If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the > configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ... > > Aurelien > > -- > --- > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.
Hi, Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin. As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration files when version or bitness is changed ... If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ... Aurelien -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] PulseAudio on OI hipster
hey guys i noticed that OI-hipster automatically pulled in PulseAudio pkg during last upgrade. was that necessary? i'm under the impression that OI has its own sound system. while playing a youtube clip yesterday on my hipster system, i noticed sound pops and noises on regular intervals. while watching same clip on windows and linux(no PA installed), it doesn't produce any pops. this is the youtube clip i listen to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8KmjzQs0x4 ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio error
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:11 PM, russellwrote: > Hi, > > After changing the permissions on the ~/.config/pulse directory, removing > the directory contents and restarting pulse everything was working. I could > logout and log back in and no errors. > When I restarted my computer the directory permissions changed to > rwx-- , there is a process which is resetting the permissions > incorrectly. Thank you for the detailed report, could you open a ticket at bugs.openindiana.org? I have the pulseaudio update to 9.0 on my todo list but had no time to debug a failure on my machine... Aurélien > > > Regards > > Russell > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio error
Hi, After changing the permissions on the ~/.config/pulse directory, removing the directory contents and restarting pulse everything was working. I could logout and log back in and no errors. When I restarted my computer the directory permissions changed to rwx-- , there is a process which is resetting the permissions incorrectly. Regards Russell ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio error
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:22 PM, russellwrote: > Hi, > > The below was created due the permissions set on the pulse directory in > .config, the permssions were rwx-- changing the permissions to add > group access resolved the issue. > > Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] > module-device-restore.c: Failed to open volume database > '/home/russell/.config/pulse/ce41a7037b30eebdefda138d00f5-device-volumes': > I/O error > Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] > module.c: Failed to load module "module-device-restore" (argument: ""): > initialization failed. > Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] > main.c: Module load failed. > Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] > main.c: Failed to initialize daemon. > Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1233]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] > main.c: Daemon startup failed. > Jan 28 13:57:19 telsa pulseaudio[1270]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] > pid.c: Daemon already running. > Thank you for sharing the solution! > > > Regards > > Russell > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio error
Hi, The below was created due the permissions set on the pulse directory in .config, the permssions were rwx-- changing the permissions to add group access resolved the issue. Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] module-device-restore.c: Failed to open volume database '/home/russell/.config/pulse/ce41a7037b30eebdefda138d00f5-device-volumes': I/O error Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] module.c: Failed to load module "module-device-restore" (argument: ""): initialization failed. Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] main.c: Module load failed. Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] main.c: Failed to initialize daemon. Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1233]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] main.c: Daemon startup failed. Jan 28 13:57:19 telsa pulseaudio[1270]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] pid.c: Daemon already running. Regards Russell ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX, but I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking. When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on hipster, or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time (2011). Jon On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Totally agree! I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network if people want to use youtube. The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works well over WAN connections. As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio to the client. Xspice is still in developement. Kind regards, Ivar Jonathan Adams schreef: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
Jon, Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana? I was almost successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running. Gary On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX, but I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking. When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on hipster, or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time (2011). Jon On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Totally agree! I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network if people want to use youtube. The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works well over WAN connections. As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio to the client. Xspice is still in developement. Kind regards, Ivar Jonathan Adams schreef: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
long time ago (2011) ... I've got a tar of it, but OI has changed a lot in that time, I haven't actually tried to connect to it in a while I said (a while back) that I would have a go and see if I can a compile of the latest version when I had time, and it kinda got forgotten about. It was a real hack though, I manually modified the Makefiles and ran some of the compile lines by hand to make sure it picked up the system libraries, I wanted to spend time getting it to work with less effort. Jon On 14 October 2013 11:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote: Jon, Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana? I was almost successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running. Gary On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX, but I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking. When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on hipster, or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time (2011). Jon On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Totally agree! I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network if people want to use youtube. The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works well over WAN connections. As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio to the client. Xspice is still in developement. Kind regards, Ivar Jonathan Adams schreef: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindi**ana.org http://openindiana.org OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discusshttp://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discuss http://openindiana.**org/mailman/listinfo/**openindiana-discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
Okay, I just compiled opennx to get a client (which involved compiling nxssh as well) but it did work, and I've just connected to myself and it's still working ... wonders will never cease :) in which case I can probably just tar up the /usr/NX directory and get you to test it at your end? Jon On 14 October 2013 12:01, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: long time ago (2011) ... I've got a tar of it, but OI has changed a lot in that time, I haven't actually tried to connect to it in a while I said (a while back) that I would have a go and see if I can a compile of the latest version when I had time, and it kinda got forgotten about. It was a real hack though, I manually modified the Makefiles and ran some of the compile lines by hand to make sure it picked up the system libraries, I wanted to spend time getting it to work with less effort. Jon On 14 October 2013 11:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote: Jon, Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana? I was almost successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running. Gary On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX, but I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking. When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on hipster, or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time (2011). Jon On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Totally agree! I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network if people want to use youtube. The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works well over WAN connections. As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio to the client. Xspice is still in developement. Kind regards, Ivar Jonathan Adams schreef: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindi**ana.org http://openindiana.org OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discusshttp://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discuss http://openindiana.**org/mailman/listinfo/**openindiana-discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
On 10/10/13 11:04 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. Let's see what manpower and otherwise support and contributions, we can make then, to the JDS and Milan in leaving SunRay supported in OI and have newer technologies that are to be ported (pulseaudio) to work with it. (Firstly with manpower and then other) It is truly a measure of involvement in a project, a way of us to be sure that, parts of OI user base, that we may be part of, keep be happy and expand it's use. I understand Milan, it is hard to justify supporting something you can not buy a new one and sells new no more, nor find new unused replacements for. And the need for the protocol to be open, too. On the other side, I can not Imagine not to be able to use SunRays on OI, and that user base of people that use OI for that, should not be forgotten. But I think It should be contributed to a project in a way Milan can use it in a constructive way of helping him and us. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
Jon, I'd be happy to test what you've done. Gary On 10/14/2013 08:36 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: Okay, I just compiled opennx to get a client (which involved compiling nxssh as well) but it did work, and I've just connected to myself and it's still working ... wonders will never cease :) in which case I can probably just tar up the /usr/NX directory and get you to test it at your end? Jon On 14 October 2013 12:01, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: long time ago (2011) ... I've got a tar of it, but OI has changed a lot in that time, I haven't actually tried to connect to it in a while I said (a while back) that I would have a go and see if I can a compile of the latest version when I had time, and it kinda got forgotten about. It was a real hack though, I manually modified the Makefiles and ran some of the compile lines by hand to make sure it picked up the system libraries, I wanted to spend time getting it to work with less effort. Jon On 14 October 2013 11:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote: Jon, Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana? I was almost successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running. Gary On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX, but I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking. When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on hipster, or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time (2011). Jon On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Totally agree! I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network if people want to use youtube. The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works well over WAN connections. As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio to the client. Xspice is still in developement. Kind regards, Ivar Jonathan Adams schreef: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindi**ana.org http://openindiana.org OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discusshttp://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discuss http://openindiana.**org/mailman/listinfo/**openindiana-discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6o_jmGQm0dWUjZDemJQbDNkdkk/edit?usp=sharing I've tar'd up the /usr/NX directory ... if you untar in the same location hopefully that will work. root@jadlaptop:/usr# grep nx /etc/passwd nx:x:101:101::/usr/NX/home/nx:/usr/NX/bin/nxserver the nx client is opennx in /usr/NX/bin ... you might need to set the NX path to be /usr/NX (in the configuration) I have notes that say I needed to add a line to /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias : fixed -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 and that I needed to run gdmsetup and enable XDMCP. I'm interested to know if it would work for you. Jon On 14 October 2013 15:45, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote: Jon, I'd be happy to test what you've done. Gary On 10/14/2013 08:36 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: Okay, I just compiled opennx to get a client (which involved compiling nxssh as well) but it did work, and I've just connected to myself and it's still working ... wonders will never cease :) in which case I can probably just tar up the /usr/NX directory and get you to test it at your end? Jon On 14 October 2013 12:01, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: long time ago (2011) ... I've got a tar of it, but OI has changed a lot in that time, I haven't actually tried to connect to it in a while I said (a while back) that I would have a go and see if I can a compile of the latest version when I had time, and it kinda got forgotten about. It was a real hack though, I manually modified the Makefiles and ran some of the compile lines by hand to make sure it picked up the system libraries, I wanted to spend time getting it to work with less effort. Jon On 14 October 2013 11:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote: Jon, Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana? I was almost successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running. Gary On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX, but I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking. When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on hipster, or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time (2011). Jon On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Totally agree! I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network if people want to use youtube. The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works well over WAN connections. As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio to the client. Xspice is still in developement. Kind regards, Ivar Jonathan Adams schreef: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindi**ana.org http://openindiana.org OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindi**ana.org http://openindiana.org OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-*** ***discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss http://openindiana.**org/**mailman/listinfo/**openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discuss http://openindiana.**org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss http://**openindiana.org/mailman/**listinfo/openindiana-discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindi**ana.org http://openindiana.org OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org
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Totally agree! I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network if people want to use youtube. The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works well over WAN connections. As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio to the client. Xspice is still in developement. Kind regards, Ivar Jonathan Adams schreef: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon On 10 October 2013 05:15, Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz wrote: Hi, On st, 2013-10-09 at 17:11 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Milan Jurik wrote: how relevant is obsolete closed source technology? how relevant is obsolete closed mind ideology? the company responsible for development of all key components stopped to sell it to new customers. See what happens when you put adjectives together with minimal facts? relevant has different meaning depending on whether one uses them; and to everyone else, depending on how many people are still using them. Yes, there are few instalations of OI probably. How important for them pulseaudio is? closed source isn't entirely accurate; there are open source implementations of the SunRay Appliance Link Protocol (ALP): http://sourceforge.net/p/softray/wiki/Home/ Without development for more than 3 years. http://sourceforge.net/p/lens/home/Home/ Without development for more than 3 years. and I've heard about some others too, but have other things to do than prove the point right now. Find some different technology, which has more documentation, more attention and has future. Best regards, Milan ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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On 26/09/13 01:37 AM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote: On 2013-09-25 12:09, Milan Jurik wrote missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days. Ouch... that hurts, man! Sad, but true (and speaking as a former Sun Ray customer). -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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On 09/25/13 12:09 PM, Milan Jurik wrote: Hi, it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days. Uh, don't think for a second SunRay is irrelevant. And support for it should not be included. It is in use and will be in use for a long time I think. I will install SRSS for first time these days, to learn how to set it up. I actually plan on using it more, since prices for used ones are low now and it is very usable for VDI. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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Hi, On st, 2013-10-09 at 14:57 +0200, Nikola M. wrote: On 09/25/13 12:09 PM, Milan Jurik wrote: Hi, it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days. Uh, don't think for a second SunRay is irrelevant. And support for it should not be included. It is in use and will be in use for a long time I think. I will install SRSS for first time these days, to learn how to set it up. I actually plan on using it more, since prices for used ones are low now and it is very usable for VDI. how relevant is obsolete closed source technology? Best regards, Milan ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Milan Jurik wrote: how relevant is obsolete closed source technology? how relevant is obsolete closed mind ideology? See what happens when you put adjectives together with minimal facts? relevant has different meaning depending on whether one uses them; and to everyone else, depending on how many people are still using them. closed source isn't entirely accurate; there are open source implementations of the SunRay Appliance Link Protocol (ALP): http://sourceforge.net/p/softray/wiki/Home/ http://sourceforge.net/p/lens/home/Home/ and I've heard about some others too, but have other things to do than prove the point right now. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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Hi, On st, 2013-10-09 at 17:11 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Milan Jurik wrote: how relevant is obsolete closed source technology? how relevant is obsolete closed mind ideology? the company responsible for development of all key components stopped to sell it to new customers. See what happens when you put adjectives together with minimal facts? relevant has different meaning depending on whether one uses them; and to everyone else, depending on how many people are still using them. Yes, there are few instalations of OI probably. How important for them pulseaudio is? closed source isn't entirely accurate; there are open source implementations of the SunRay Appliance Link Protocol (ALP): http://sourceforge.net/p/softray/wiki/Home/ Without development for more than 3 years. http://sourceforge.net/p/lens/home/Home/ Without development for more than 3 years. and I've heard about some others too, but have other things to do than prove the point right now. Find some different technology, which has more documentation, more attention and has future. Best regards, Milan ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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I have a need for SunRay support on existing SPARC servers. With Illumos functioning on SPARC now, this seems to be my next major issue. ___ David, installing the recent 5.4 SRS on an OI 151a8 (x86, indeed) for my test setup was quite easy (I followed http://wiki.sun-rays.org/index.php/SRS_5.1_on_Solaris_11_Express for reference) cu Carsten ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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-Original message- From: Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz Sent: Wed 25-09-2013 12:10 Subject:Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org; Hi, it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days. Best regards, Milan Hi, the SunRay stuff is exactly the reason for my search for pulseaudio. If pulseaudio would run on a OI based SunRay server it would be possible to connect a backend server (running linux) via X11/XDMCP and forward the audio from the backend to the OI SunRay server. As the SunRay software is discontinued by Oracle we are looking for a way to keep the SunRays running without depending on SunRay software being compatible with the latest Linux, OI etc.. The frontend SunRay server(s) would just act as a sort of proxy for the backend servers running OI, Linux, Windows or whatever. Finally audio is not that important in our environment, but would be nice. cu Carsten ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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From:Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz Sent:Wed 25-09-2013 12:10 Subject:Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio To:Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org; Hi, it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days. Best regards, Milan Hi, the SunRay stuff is exactly the reason for my search for pulseaudio. If pulseaudio would run on a OI based SunRay server it would be possible to connect a backend server (running linux) via X11/XDMCP and forward the audio from the backend to the OI SunRay server. As the SunRay software is discontinued by Oracle we are looking for a way to keep the SunRays running without depending on SunRay software being compatible with the latest Linux, OI etc.. The frontend SunRay server(s) would just act as a sort of proxy for the backend servers running OI, Linux, Windows or whatever. Finally audio is not that important in our environment, but would be nice. cu Carsten I have a need for SunRay support on existing SPARC servers. With Illumos functioning on SPARC now, this seems to be my next major issue. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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Hello everybody, did anybody try to compile pulseaudio for OI, so far? It should be possible as it is in Oracle Solais 11.1 now. Oracle supplied the information about the toolchain used to build the desktop stuff, but I didn't find the time to look deeper into that. So, before reinventing the wheel, perhaps somebody did it already? thx Carsten ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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Okay so it is standard on Linux but why do we need that piece of broken crap from Lennart Poettering after he's had his fun? What next? systemd? On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 03:13 PM, real-men-dont-cl...@gmx.net wrote: Hello everybody, did anybody try to compile pulseaudio for OI, so far? It should be possible as it is in Oracle Solais 11.1 now. Oracle supplied the information about the toolchain used to build the desktop stuff, but I didn't find the time to look deeper into that. So, before reinventing the wheel, perhaps somebody did it already? thx Carsten ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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Hi, it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days. Best regards, Milan On 25.09.2013 09:13, real-men-dont-cl...@gmx.net wrote: Hello everybody, did anybody try to compile pulseaudio for OI, so far? It should be possible as it is in Oracle Solais 11.1 now. Oracle supplied the information about the toolchain used to build the desktop stuff, but I didn't find the time to look deeper into that. So, before reinventing the wheel, perhaps somebody did it already? thx Carsten ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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On 2013-09-25 12:09, Milan Jurik wrote missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days. Ouch... that hurts, man! ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss