Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.

2018-03-10 Thread Aurelien Larcher 
Check the current sound level with audioctl.

Le Samedi 10 mars 2018, Francis.D a écrit :
> This morning I tested in liveDVD solaris 11.3 to see the audio support on
> the Laptop. There's a big difference. The sound is clear and heavy. Yet the
> drivers are the same.
> 
> Maybe the sound management under Mate is less efficient.
> 
> I did the same test on My desktop with the asus D1 sound card and the
> fabulous audiocmi driver and I don't have sound so much under solaris 11.3.
> 
> 
> 
> 2018-03-10 13:52 GMT-05:00 Aurelien Larcher :
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Le Samedi 10 mars 2018, Francis.D a écrit :
> > > After updating and rebooting, I have a good sound improvement on my
> > Lenovo
> > > Laptop T400.
> > >
> > > It's not as strong as under Linux in comparaison  but there is a good
> > > improvement.
> > >
> > > big thank
> >
> > Good to hear!
> >
> > With some chipsets it seems that the sound level can be further increased
> > since pulseaudio may only use the volume set by OSS as maximum limit.
> > The default setting for OSS is 75% of the maximum provided by the
> > hardware, so setting the volume control with audioctl may improve the
> > situation.
> >
> > >
> > > 2018-03-10 10:46 GMT-05:00 Aurélien Larcher  > >:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin.
> > > > As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration
> > files
> > > > when version or bitness is changed ...
> > > > If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the
> > > > configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ...
> > > >
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.

2018-03-10 Thread Francis.D 
This morning I tested in liveDVD solaris 11.3 to see the audio support on
the Laptop. There's a big difference. The sound is clear and heavy. Yet the
drivers are the same.

Maybe the sound management under Mate is less efficient.

I did the same test on My desktop with the asus D1 sound card and the
fabulous audiocmi driver and I don't have sound so much under solaris 11.3.



2018-03-10 13:52 GMT-05:00 Aurelien Larcher :

> Hello,
>
> Le Samedi 10 mars 2018, Francis.D a écrit :
> > After updating and rebooting, I have a good sound improvement on my
> Lenovo
> > Laptop T400.
> >
> > It's not as strong as under Linux in comparaison  but there is a good
> > improvement.
> >
> > big thank
>
> Good to hear!
>
> With some chipsets it seems that the sound level can be further increased
> since pulseaudio may only use the volume set by OSS as maximum limit.
> The default setting for OSS is 75% of the maximum provided by the
> hardware, so setting the volume control with audioctl may improve the
> situation.
>
> >
> > 2018-03-10 10:46 GMT-05:00 Aurélien Larcher  >:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin.
> > > As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration
> files
> > > when version or bitness is changed ...
> > > If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the
> > > configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ...
> > >
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> > >
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.

2018-03-10 Thread Aurelien Larcher 
Hello,

Le Samedi 10 mars 2018, Francis.D a écrit :
> After updating and rebooting, I have a good sound improvement on my Lenovo
> Laptop T400.
> 
> It's not as strong as under Linux in comparaison  but there is a good
> improvement.
> 
> big thank

Good to hear!

With some chipsets it seems that the sound level can be further increased since 
pulseaudio may only use the volume set by OSS as maximum limit.
The default setting for OSS is 75% of the maximum provided by the hardware, so 
setting the volume control with audioctl may improve the situation.

> 
> 2018-03-10 10:46 GMT-05:00 Aurélien Larcher :
> 
> > Hi,
> > Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin.
> > As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration files
> > when version or bitness is changed ...
> > If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the
> > configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ...
> >
> > Aurelien
> >
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Pulseaudio now delivered as 64-bit by default.

2018-03-10 Thread Francis.D 
After updating and rebooting, I have a good sound improvement on my Lenovo
Laptop T400.

It's not as strong as under Linux in comparaison  but there is a good
improvement.

big thank

2018-03-10 10:46 GMT-05:00 Aurélien Larcher :

> Hi,
> Pulseaudio is now delivered as 64-bits in /usr/bin.
> As usual Pulseaudio may not able to cope with its own configuration files
> when version or bitness is changed ...
> If Pulseaudio does not start after reboot, you may need to remove the
> configuration files in ~/.config/pulse/ ...
>
> Aurelien
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio error

2017-01-28 Thread Aurélien Larcher 
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:11 PM, russell 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> After changing the permissions on the ~/.config/pulse directory, removing
> the directory contents and restarting pulse everything was working. I could
> logout and log back in and no errors.
> When I restarted my computer the directory permissions changed to
> rwx-- , there is a process which is resetting the permissions
> incorrectly.


Thank you for the detailed report, could you open a ticket at
bugs.openindiana.org?
I have the pulseaudio update to 9.0 on my todo list but had no time to
debug a failure on my machine...

Aurélien


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio error

2017-01-28 Thread russell 

Hi,

After changing the permissions on the ~/.config/pulse directory, 
removing the directory contents and restarting pulse everything was 
working. I could logout and log back in and no errors.
When I restarted my computer the directory permissions changed to 
rwx-- , there is a process which is resetting the permissions 
incorrectly.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio error

2017-01-28 Thread Aurélien Larcher 
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:22 PM, russell 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The below was created due the permissions set on the pulse directory in
> .config, the permssions were rwx-- changing the permissions to add
> group access resolved the issue.
>
> Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> module-device-restore.c: Failed to open volume database
> '/home/russell/.config/pulse/ce41a7037b30eebdefda138d00f5-device-volumes':
> I/O error
> Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> module.c: Failed to load module "module-device-restore" (argument: ""):
> initialization failed.
> Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> main.c: Module load failed.
> Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1236]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
> Jan 28 13:57:17 tesla pulseaudio[1233]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> main.c: Daemon startup failed.
> Jan 28 13:57:19 telsa pulseaudio[1270]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> pid.c: Daemon already running.
>

Thank you for sharing the solution!



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-14 Thread Jonathan Adams 
The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX, but
I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking.

When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on hipster,
or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again
... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time
(2011).

Jon


On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Totally agree!
 I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network
 if people want to use youtube.
 The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works
 well over WAN connections.

 As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio
 to the client.
 Xspice is still in developement.

 Kind regards,

 Ivar

 Jonathan Adams schreef:

  SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and
 versatile system.

 SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support
 smart
 card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
 thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED
 fairy
 lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is
 exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
 magnitude better than VNC.

 We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we
 hot-desk
 (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just
 don't do what we need.  We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays
 when
 they sell them off.

 They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but
 because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in
 pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know
 what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit
 coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product.

 Just my 2cents.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-14 Thread Gary Gendel 

Jon,

Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana?  I was almost 
successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running.


Gary

On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:

The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX, but
I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking.

When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on hipster,
or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again
... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time
(2011).

Jon


On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote:


Totally agree!
I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network
if people want to use youtube.
The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works
well over WAN connections.

As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio
to the client.
Xspice is still in developement.

Kind regards,

Ivar

Jonathan Adams schreef:

  SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and

versatile system.

SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support
smart
card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED
fairy
lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is
exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
magnitude better than VNC.

We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we
hot-desk
(it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just
don't do what we need.  We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays
when
they sell them off.

They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but
because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in
pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know
what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit
coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product.

Just my 2cents.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-14 Thread Jonathan Adams 
long time ago (2011) ... I've got a tar of it, but OI has changed a lot in
that time, I haven't actually tried to connect to it in a while

I said (a while back) that I would have a go and see if I can a compile of
the latest version when I had time, and it kinda got forgotten about.

It was a real hack though, I manually modified the Makefiles and ran some
of the compile lines by hand to make sure it picked up the system
libraries, I wanted to spend time getting it to work with less effort.

Jon


On 14 October 2013 11:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:

 Jon,

 Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana?  I was almost
 successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running.

 Gary


 On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:

 The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX,
 but
 I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking.

 When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on
 hipster,
 or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers again
 ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last time
 (2011).

 Jon


 On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote:

  Totally agree!
 I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps
 network
 if people want to use youtube.
 The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works
 well over WAN connections.

 As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer
 audio
 to the client.
 Xspice is still in developement.

 Kind regards,

 Ivar

 Jonathan Adams schreef:

   SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and

 versatile system.

 SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support
 smart
 card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
 thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED
 fairy
 lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is
 exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
 magnitude better than VNC.

 We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we
 hot-desk
 (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just
 don't do what we need.  We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays
 when
 they sell them off.

 They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but
 because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested
 in
 pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know
 what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-14 Thread Jonathan Adams 
Okay, I just compiled opennx to get a client (which involved compiling
nxssh as well) but it did work, and I've just connected to myself and it's
still working ... wonders will never cease :)


in which case I can probably just tar up the /usr/NX directory and get you
to test it at your end?

Jon


On 14 October 2013 12:01, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote:

 long time ago (2011) ... I've got a tar of it, but OI has changed a lot in
 that time, I haven't actually tried to connect to it in a while

 I said (a while back) that I would have a go and see if I can a compile of
 the latest version when I had time, and it kinda got forgotten about.

 It was a real hack though, I manually modified the Makefiles and ran some
 of the compile lines by hand to make sure it picked up the system
 libraries, I wanted to spend time getting it to work with less effort.

 Jon


 On 14 October 2013 11:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:

 Jon,

 Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana?  I was almost
 successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running.

 Gary


 On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:

 The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX,
 but
 I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking.

 When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on
 hipster,
 or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers
 again
 ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last
 time
 (2011).

 Jon


 On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote:

  Totally agree!
 I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps
 network
 if people want to use youtube.
 The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works
 well over WAN connections.

 As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer
 audio
 to the client.
 Xspice is still in developement.

 Kind regards,

 Ivar

 Jonathan Adams schreef:

   SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and

 versatile system.

 SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support
 smart
 card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
 thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED
 fairy
 lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use
 is
 exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
 magnitude better than VNC.

 We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we
 hot-desk
 (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just
 don't do what we need.  We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays
 when
 they sell them off.

 They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but
 because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested
 in
 pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know
 what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-14 Thread Nikola M. 

On 10/10/13 11:04 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:

SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and
versatile system.

SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart
card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy
lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is
exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
magnitude better than VNC.

Let's see what manpower and otherwise support and contributions,
we can make then, to the JDS and Milan in leaving SunRay supported in OI 
and have newer technologies that are to be ported (pulseaudio) to work 
with it.

(Firstly with manpower and then other)

It is truly a measure of involvement in a project,
a way of us to be sure that, parts of OI user base, that we may be part of,
keep be happy and expand it's use.

I understand Milan, it is hard to justify supporting something you can 
not buy a new one and sells new no more, nor find new unused 
replacements for. And the need for the protocol to be open, too.


On the other side, I can not Imagine not to be able to use SunRays on 
OI, and that user base of people that use OI for that, should not be 
forgotten.
But I think It should be contributed to a project in a way Milan can use 
it in a constructive way of helping him and us.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-14 Thread Gary Gendel 

Jon,

I'd be happy to test what you've done.

Gary

On 10/14/2013 08:36 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:

Okay, I just compiled opennx to get a client (which involved compiling
nxssh as well) but it did work, and I've just connected to myself and it's
still working ... wonders will never cease :)


in which case I can probably just tar up the /usr/NX directory and get you
to test it at your end?

Jon


On 14 October 2013 12:01, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote:


long time ago (2011) ... I've got a tar of it, but OI has changed a lot in
that time, I haven't actually tried to connect to it in a while

I said (a while back) that I would have a go and see if I can a compile of
the latest version when I had time, and it kinda got forgotten about.

It was a real hack though, I manually modified the Makefiles and ran some
of the compile lines by hand to make sure it picked up the system
libraries, I wanted to spend time getting it to work with less effort.

Jon


On 14 October 2013 11:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:


Jon,

Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana?  I was almost
successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running.

Gary


On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:


The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX,
but
I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking.

When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on
hipster,
or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers
again
... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last
time
(2011).

Jon


On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote:

  Totally agree!

I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps
network
if people want to use youtube.
The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works
well over WAN connections.

As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer
audio
to the client.
Xspice is still in developement.

Kind regards,

Ivar

Jonathan Adams schreef:

   SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and


versatile system.

SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support
smart
card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED
fairy
lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use
is
exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
magnitude better than VNC.

We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we
hot-desk
(it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just
don't do what we need.  We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays
when
they sell them off.

They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but
because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested
in
pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know
what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no
profit
coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product.

Just my 2cents.

Jon





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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-14 Thread Jonathan Adams 
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6o_jmGQm0dWUjZDemJQbDNkdkk/edit?usp=sharing

I've tar'd up the /usr/NX directory ... if you untar in the same location
hopefully that will work.

root@jadlaptop:/usr# grep nx /etc/passwd
nx:x:101:101::/usr/NX/home/nx:/usr/NX/bin/nxserver

the nx client is opennx in /usr/NX/bin ... you might need to set the NX
path to be /usr/NX (in the configuration)

I have notes that say I needed to add a line to
/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias :

fixed -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1

and that I needed to run gdmsetup and enable XDMCP.

I'm interested to know if it would work for you.

Jon



On 14 October 2013 15:45, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:

 Jon,

 I'd be happy to test what you've done.

 Gary


 On 10/14/2013 08:36 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:

 Okay, I just compiled opennx to get a client (which involved compiling
 nxssh as well) but it did work, and I've just connected to myself and it's
 still working ... wonders will never cease :)


 in which case I can probably just tar up the /usr/NX directory and get you
 to test it at your end?

 Jon


 On 14 October 2013 12:01, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote:

  long time ago (2011) ... I've got a tar of it, but OI has changed a lot
 in
 that time, I haven't actually tried to connect to it in a while

 I said (a while back) that I would have a go and see if I can a compile
 of
 the latest version when I had time, and it kinda got forgotten about.

 It was a real hack though, I manually modified the Makefiles and ran some
 of the compile lines by hand to make sure it picked up the system
 libraries, I wanted to spend time getting it to work with less effort.

 Jon


 On 14 October 2013 11:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:

  Jon,

 Did you get the NX server running on Solaris/OpenIndiana?  I was almost
 successful but couldn't get all the components compiled and running.

 Gary


 On 10/14/2013 05:11 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:

  The best alternative for light-weight sessions from Solaris was FreeNX,
 but
 I haven't found a good Solaris NX Client, still looking.

 When I get enough time I think I will try to recompile it again on
 hipster,
 or at least try to streamline the thing to re-use the native drivers
 again
 ... I really had to kick the sh*t out of it to get it to compile last
 time
 (2011).

 Jon


 On 11 October 2013 23:40, Ivar Janmaat ijanm...@xs4all.nl wrote:

   Totally agree!

 I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps
 network
 if people want to use youtube.
 The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even
 works
 well over WAN connections.

 As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer
 audio
 to the client.
 Xspice is still in developement.

 Kind regards,

 Ivar

 Jonathan Adams schreef:

SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and

  versatile system.

 SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support
 smart
 card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
 thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED
 fairy
 lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use
 is
 exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
 magnitude better than VNC.

 We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we
 hot-desk
 (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients
 just
 don't do what we need.  We've taken to buying up other peoples
 SunRays
 when
 they sell them off.

 They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but
 because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't
 interested
 in
 pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't
 know
 what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no
 profit
 coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product.

 Just my 2cents.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-11 Thread Ivar Janmaat 

Totally agree!
I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps 
network if people want to use youtube.
The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works 
well over WAN connections.


As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer 
audio to the client.

Xspice is still in developement.

Kind regards,

Ivar

Jonathan Adams schreef:

SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and
versatile system.

SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart
card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy
lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is
exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
magnitude better than VNC.

We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk
(it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just
don't do what we need.  We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when
they sell them off.

They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but
because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in
pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know
what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit
coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product.

Just my 2cents.

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2013-10-10 Thread Jonathan Adams 
SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and
versatile system.

SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart
card technology to connect to the correct session.  They are a true
thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy
lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is
exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of
magnitude better than VNC.

We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk
(it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just
don't do what we need.  We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when
they sell them off.

They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but
because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in
pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know
what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit
coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product.

Just my 2cents.

Jon


On 10 October 2013 05:15, Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz wrote:

 Hi,

 On st, 2013-10-09 at 17:11 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
  On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:
  
   how relevant is obsolete closed source technology?
 
 
  how relevant is obsolete closed mind ideology?
 

 the company responsible for development of all key components stopped to
 sell it to new customers.

  See what happens when you put adjectives together with minimal facts?
  relevant has different meaning depending on whether one uses them; and
 to everyone else, depending on how many people are still using them.
 

 Yes, there are few instalations of OI probably. How important for them
 pulseaudio is?

  closed source isn't entirely accurate; there are open source
 implementations of the SunRay Appliance Link Protocol (ALP):
  http://sourceforge.net/p/softray/wiki/Home/

 Without development for more than 3 years.

  http://sourceforge.net/p/lens/home/Home/
 

 Without development for more than 3 years.

  and I've heard about some others too, but have other things to do than
 prove the point right now.
 

 Find some different technology, which has more documentation, more
 attention and has future.

 Best regards,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-10 Thread Dave Koelmeyer 

On 26/09/13 01:37 AM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:


On 2013-09-25 12:09, Milan Jurik wrote

  missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant 
these days.


Ouch... that hurts, man!


Sad, but true (and speaking as a former Sun Ray customer).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-09 Thread Nikola M. 

On 09/25/13 12:09 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:

Hi,

it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, 
missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these 
days.
Uh, don't think for a second SunRay is irrelevant. And support for it 
should not be included.

It is in use and will be in use for a long time I think.

I will install SRSS for first time these days, to learn how to set it up.
I actually plan on using it more, since prices for used ones are low now 
and it is very usable for VDI.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-09 Thread Milan Jurik 
Hi,

On st, 2013-10-09 at 14:57 +0200, Nikola M. wrote:
 On 09/25/13 12:09 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:
  Hi,
 
  it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, 
  missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these 
  days.
 Uh, don't think for a second SunRay is irrelevant. And support for it 
 should not be included.
 It is in use and will be in use for a long time I think.
 
 I will install SRSS for first time these days, to learn how to set it up.
 I actually plan on using it more, since prices for used ones are low now 
 and it is very usable for VDI.
 

how relevant is obsolete closed source technology?

Best regards,

Milan


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-09 Thread Richard L. Hamilton 

On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:
 
 how relevant is obsolete closed source technology?


how relevant is obsolete closed mind ideology?

See what happens when you put adjectives together with minimal facts?  
relevant has different meaning depending on whether one uses them; and to 
everyone else, depending on how many people are still using them.

closed source isn't entirely accurate; there are open source implementations 
of the SunRay Appliance Link Protocol (ALP):
http://sourceforge.net/p/softray/wiki/Home/
http://sourceforge.net/p/lens/home/Home/

and I've heard about some others too, but have other things to do than prove 
the point right now.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-10-09 Thread Milan Jurik 
Hi,

On st, 2013-10-09 at 17:11 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
 On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:
  
  how relevant is obsolete closed source technology?
 
 
 how relevant is obsolete closed mind ideology?
 

the company responsible for development of all key components stopped to
sell it to new customers.

 See what happens when you put adjectives together with minimal facts?  
 relevant has different meaning depending on whether one uses them; and to 
 everyone else, depending on how many people are still using them.
 

Yes, there are few instalations of OI probably. How important for them
pulseaudio is?

 closed source isn't entirely accurate; there are open source 
 implementations of the SunRay Appliance Link Protocol (ALP):
 http://sourceforge.net/p/softray/wiki/Home/

Without development for more than 3 years.

 http://sourceforge.net/p/lens/home/Home/
 

Without development for more than 3 years.

 and I've heard about some others too, but have other things to do than prove 
 the point right now.
 

Find some different technology, which has more documentation, more
attention and has future.

Best regards,

Milan


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-09-26 Thread real-men-dont-click 
-Original message-
From:   Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz
Sent:   Wed 25-09-2013 12:10
Subject:Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org; 
 Hi,
 
 it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, missing 
 is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Milan
 

Hi,

the SunRay stuff is exactly the reason for my search for pulseaudio. If 
pulseaudio would run on a OI based SunRay server it would be possible to 
connect a backend server (running linux) via X11/XDMCP and forward the audio 
from the backend to the OI SunRay server.

As the SunRay software is discontinued by Oracle we are looking for a way to 
keep the SunRays running without depending on SunRay software being compatible 
with the latest Linux, OI etc.. The frontend SunRay server(s) would just act as 
a sort of proxy for the backend servers running OI, Linux, Windows or whatever.

Finally audio is not that important in our environment, but would be nice.


cu


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2013-09-26 Thread DavidHalko 

 From:Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz
 Sent:Wed 25-09-2013 12:10
 Subject:Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
 To:Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org; 
 Hi,
 
 it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, missing is 
 only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days.
 
 Best regards,
 Milan
 
 Hi,
 
 the SunRay stuff is exactly the reason for my search for pulseaudio. If 
 pulseaudio would run on a OI based SunRay server it would be possible to 
 connect a backend server (running linux) via X11/XDMCP and forward the audio 
 from the backend to the OI SunRay server.
 
 As the SunRay software is discontinued by Oracle we are looking for a way to 
 keep the SunRays running without depending on SunRay software being 
 compatible with the latest Linux, OI etc.. The frontend SunRay server(s) 
 would just act as a sort of proxy for the backend servers running OI, Linux, 
 Windows or whatever.
 
 Finally audio is not that important in our environment, but would be nice.
 
 cu
 Carsten

I have a need for SunRay support on existing SPARC servers. With Illumos 
functioning on SPARC now, this seems to be my next major issue.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-09-25 Thread Christopher Chan 
Okay so it is standard on Linux but why do we need that piece of broken 
crap from Lennart Poettering after he's had his fun? What next? systemd?


On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 03:13 PM, real-men-dont-cl...@gmx.net 
wrote:

Hello everybody,

did anybody try to compile pulseaudio for OI, so far? It should be possible as 
it is in Oracle Solais 11.1 now.

Oracle supplied the information about the toolchain used to build the desktop 
stuff, but I didn't find the time to look deeper into that.

So, before reinventing the wheel, perhaps somebody did it already?

thx

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-09-25 Thread Milan Jurik 

Hi,

it is part of SFE spec files, very same as integrated in S11.1, missing 
is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these days.


Best regards,

Milan

On 25.09.2013 09:13, real-men-dont-cl...@gmx.net wrote:

Hello everybody,

did anybody try to compile pulseaudio for OI, so far? It should be
possible as it is in Oracle Solais 11.1 now.

Oracle supplied the information about the toolchain used to build the
desktop stuff, but I didn't find the time to look deeper into that.

So, before reinventing the wheel, perhaps somebody did it already?

thx

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio

2013-09-25 Thread Hans J. Albertsson 


On 2013-09-25 12:09, Milan Jurik wrote

  missing is only SunRay support I think. And that is irrelevant these 
days.



Ouch... that hurts, man!


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