Re: Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[dalibor topic]

On 14.06.2016 19:33, Tomas Mikula wrote:

the first ones who wish that Oracle
invested more resources in JavaFX.


That's not how the open source Projects in the OpenJDK Community work.

In this Project, you can contribute your own time and resources to 
improve OpenJFX, following the instructions at 
http://openjdk.java.net/contribute/ in general, and those published by 
this Project in particular.


You can't direct when or how others chose to contribute their own time 
and resources, though.


Wishing doesn't work here. Work works.

> the anger is targeted at the wrong crowd here.

It's important to keep technical forums focused on technical matters, so 
that current and potential future Contributors don't have to waste their 
valuable time wading through non-technical, non-contributions in order 
to get to the technical items that actually deserve attention.


Allowing non-technical discussions to fester on a technical mailing list 
can be a serious discouragement to new Contributors, and mislead 
newcomers to assume that toxic and entitled behavior is acceptable or 
even desirable in a given open source forum or a project.


It's not.

cheers,
dalibor topic

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Re: Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[dalibor topic]

On 14.06.2016 21:05, Kevin Loverde wrote:
> Does Oracle support JFX at all anymore?

Yes, it does.

Information about the commercial Oracle Java SE support can be found 
here: 
http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/java/standard-edition/support/overview/index.html 
. If you are interested in Oracle support for JavaFX specifically, 
please consult the corresponding FAQ at 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/faqs-jsp-136696.html?ssSourceSiteId=ocomen 
.


For information regarding the available support timelines and levels, 
please consult the Oracle Java SE Support Roadmap at 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html .


If you have any further questions about Oracle support, please direct 
them at your Oracle sales representative.


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Re: Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[philfrei]

For what it is worth, a little known but on-topic community about the use of 
JavaFX in games can be found at java-gaming.org. Most of the members are 
involved with LWJGL and Libgdx (including founding coders for each), but there 
is an area for those interested in using JavaFX in games. I'd like to see more 
participation there. I mention this a place to direct people who turn up here 
that have issues they wish to discuss concerning JavaFX and game programming.

I'm a JavaFX novice and have just started lurking here. I have a bit of 
expertise with sound but otherwise am probably not of a skill level where I can 
contribute here, and will continue to lurk. I did post a modest tutorial at JGO 
for beginning JavaFX game programming (for Java programmers) and it has had 
over 50K hits in just a couple months. On the basis of that, it seems the 
potential audience and community for JavaFX game programming has not been 
realized.

Phil Freihofner
adonax.com

Re: Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[Donald Smith]

I think you mean "scene builder", not "stage builder".  It was made 
available under a BSD license for tools vendors that may want to 
incorporate.  Gluon is providing binaries as you noted.


 - Don

On 14/06/2016 4:06 PM, Kevin Rushforth wrote:

JavaFX is delivered as part of the JDK, so yes, Oracle does support it.

-- Kevin


Kevin Loverde wrote:

Does Oracle support JFX at all anymore? The only place I could find the
stage builder was through Gluon.

Re: Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[Kevin Rushforth]

JavaFX is delivered as part of the JDK, so yes, Oracle does support it.

-- Kevin


Kevin Loverde wrote:

Does Oracle support JFX at all anymore? The only place I could find the
stage builder was through Gluon.
  

Re: Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[Kevin Loverde]

Does Oracle support JFX at all anymore? The only place I could find the
stage builder was through Gluon.



On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Tomas Mikula 
wrote:

> Felix,
>
> I'm sure the JavaFX engineers are the first ones who wish that Oracle
> invested more resources in JavaFX. Therefore I'm afraid that the anger is
> targeted at the wrong crowd here.
>
> Tomas
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Felix Bembrick 
> wrote:
>
> > OK, I have learned my lesson - I will be careful to be strictly on-topic
> > and very well behaved in this post.
> >
> > So, I would simply request if someone could please provide a complete
> list
> > of all the NEW features that are either planned or possibly going to be
> > included in JavaFX 9.
> >
> > Being totally committed to this awesome toolkit, it's obvious that I am
> > extremely excited about all the amazing new features that ISVs like us
> will
> > soon be able to use to produce world class software! I can't wait!
> >
> > Obviously, WebGL is a given as are programmable shaders and they will
> most
> > certainly be very valuable. Naturally TableView will be completely
> > rewritten, a 3D Canvas is a must and it goes without saying that the
> > rendering pipeline will also be totally scrapped and rebuilt to use the
> GPU
> > and actually be made performant enough to move more than 2 or 3 nodes
> > around the screen at once.
> >
> > I am even clinging on to the slim hope that my lifelong goal of writing a
> > modern version of Pong (which I will call Smell) will finally be possible
> > with JavaFX.
> >
> > Clearly JavaFX 9 will "just work" out of the box on iOS, Android and VIC
> > 20.
> >
> > I am sure I don't even need to mention the features everyone is already
> > aware of like  official high performance versions for embedded devices
> and
> > the IoT.
> >
> > Obviously a game engine will be included along with an advanced physics
> > engine and built-in support for monetisation on all those mobile
> platforms
> > it will run on.
> >
> > And It goes without saying that not every method in every class will be
> > marked final (finally).
> >
> > The features I am looking forward to the most though are of course the
> > JavaFX Asset Store, the animation editor and, especially the highly
> > anticipated JavaFX Watch.
> >
> > But other than these features which most people already know about, what
> > are all the other new exciting features?
> >
> > I know everyone is busy so how about you just rank the top 100 and we can
> > do our homework to identify the 500 or so..
> >
> > Anyway, congratulations to Oracle executives for really getting behind
> > their flagship product and investing the millions of dollars it has taken
> > to make such awesome features possible.
> >
> > I am sure I speak on behalf of the entire JavaFX community in thanking
> you
> > all for this devotion and enthusiasm and I want you to know just how
> > incredibly excited we all are about this extremely significant next
> release
> > and its ability to change the world of software forever!
> >
> > Humbly and sincerely,
> >
> > Felix
> >
> >
>

Re: Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[Tomas Mikula]

Felix,

I'm sure the JavaFX engineers are the first ones who wish that Oracle
invested more resources in JavaFX. Therefore I'm afraid that the anger is
targeted at the wrong crowd here.

Tomas

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Felix Bembrick 
wrote:

> OK, I have learned my lesson - I will be careful to be strictly on-topic
> and very well behaved in this post.
>
> So, I would simply request if someone could please provide a complete list
> of all the NEW features that are either planned or possibly going to be
> included in JavaFX 9.
>
> Being totally committed to this awesome toolkit, it's obvious that I am
> extremely excited about all the amazing new features that ISVs like us will
> soon be able to use to produce world class software! I can't wait!
>
> Obviously, WebGL is a given as are programmable shaders and they will most
> certainly be very valuable. Naturally TableView will be completely
> rewritten, a 3D Canvas is a must and it goes without saying that the
> rendering pipeline will also be totally scrapped and rebuilt to use the GPU
> and actually be made performant enough to move more than 2 or 3 nodes
> around the screen at once.
>
> I am even clinging on to the slim hope that my lifelong goal of writing a
> modern version of Pong (which I will call Smell) will finally be possible
> with JavaFX.
>
> Clearly JavaFX 9 will "just work" out of the box on iOS, Android and VIC
> 20.
>
> I am sure I don't even need to mention the features everyone is already
> aware of like  official high performance versions for embedded devices and
> the IoT.
>
> Obviously a game engine will be included along with an advanced physics
> engine and built-in support for monetisation on all those mobile platforms
> it will run on.
>
> And It goes without saying that not every method in every class will be
> marked final (finally).
>
> The features I am looking forward to the most though are of course the
> JavaFX Asset Store, the animation editor and, especially the highly
> anticipated JavaFX Watch.
>
> But other than these features which most people already know about, what
> are all the other new exciting features?
>
> I know everyone is busy so how about you just rank the top 100 and we can
> do our homework to identify the 500 or so..
>
> Anyway, congratulations to Oracle executives for really getting behind
> their flagship product and investing the millions of dollars it has taken
> to make such awesome features possible.
>
> I am sure I speak on behalf of the entire JavaFX community in thanking you
> all for this devotion and enthusiasm and I want you to know just how
> incredibly excited we all are about this extremely significant next release
> and its ability to change the world of software forever!
>
> Humbly and sincerely,
>
> Felix
>
>

Re: Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[Tom Eugelink]

Please find something else to spent your time on.

Tom



On 14-6-2016 14:52, Felix Bembrick wrote:

OK, I have learned my lesson - I will be careful to be strictly on-topic and 
very well behaved in this post.

So, I would simply request if someone could please provide a complete list of 
all the NEW features that are either planned or possibly going to be included 
in JavaFX 9.

Being totally committed to this awesome toolkit, it's obvious that I am 
extremely excited about all the amazing new features that ISVs like us will 
soon be able to use to produce world class software! I can't wait!

Obviously, WebGL is a given as are programmable shaders and they will most 
certainly be very valuable. Naturally TableView will be completely rewritten, a 
3D Canvas is a must and it goes without saying that the rendering pipeline will 
also be totally scrapped and rebuilt to use the GPU and actually be made 
performant enough to move more than 2 or 3 nodes around the screen at once.

I am even clinging on to the slim hope that my lifelong goal of writing a 
modern version of Pong (which I will call Smell) will finally be possible with 
JavaFX.

Clearly JavaFX 9 will "just work" out of the box on iOS, Android and VIC 20.

I am sure I don't even need to mention the features everyone is already aware 
of like  official high performance versions for embedded devices and the IoT.

Obviously a game engine will be included along with an advanced physics engine 
and built-in support for monetisation on all those mobile platforms it will run 
on.

And It goes without saying that not every method in every class will be marked 
final (finally).

The features I am looking forward to the most though are of course the JavaFX 
Asset Store, the animation editor and, especially the highly anticipated JavaFX 
Watch.

But other than these features which most people already know about, what are 
all the other new exciting features?

I know everyone is busy so how about you just rank the top 100 and we can do 
our homework to identify the 500 or so..

Anyway, congratulations to Oracle executives for really getting behind their 
flagship product and investing the millions of dollars it has taken to make 
such awesome features possible.

I am sure I speak on behalf of the entire JavaFX community in thanking you all 
for this devotion and enthusiasm and I want you to know just how incredibly 
excited we all are about this extremely significant next release and its 
ability to change the world of software forever!

Humbly and sincerely,

Felix

Looking forward to JavaFX 9!

[Felix Bembrick]

OK, I have learned my lesson - I will be careful to be strictly on-topic and 
very well behaved in this post.

So, I would simply request if someone could please provide a complete list of 
all the NEW features that are either planned or possibly going to be included 
in JavaFX 9.

Being totally committed to this awesome toolkit, it's obvious that I am 
extremely excited about all the amazing new features that ISVs like us will 
soon be able to use to produce world class software! I can't wait!

Obviously, WebGL is a given as are programmable shaders and they will most 
certainly be very valuable. Naturally TableView will be completely rewritten, a 
3D Canvas is a must and it goes without saying that the rendering pipeline will 
also be totally scrapped and rebuilt to use the GPU and actually be made 
performant enough to move more than 2 or 3 nodes around the screen at once.

I am even clinging on to the slim hope that my lifelong goal of writing a 
modern version of Pong (which I will call Smell) will finally be possible with 
JavaFX.

Clearly JavaFX 9 will "just work" out of the box on iOS, Android and VIC 20.

I am sure I don't even need to mention the features everyone is already aware 
of like  official high performance versions for embedded devices and the IoT.

Obviously a game engine will be included along with an advanced physics engine 
and built-in support for monetisation on all those mobile platforms it will run 
on.

And It goes without saying that not every method in every class will be marked 
final (finally).

The features I am looking forward to the most though are of course the JavaFX 
Asset Store, the animation editor and, especially the highly anticipated JavaFX 
Watch.

But other than these features which most people already know about, what are 
all the other new exciting features?

I know everyone is busy so how about you just rank the top 100 and we can do 
our homework to identify the 500 or so..

Anyway, congratulations to Oracle executives for really getting behind their 
flagship product and investing the millions of dollars it has taken to make 
such awesome features possible.

I am sure I speak on behalf of the entire JavaFX community in thanking you all 
for this devotion and enthusiasm and I want you to know just how incredibly 
excited we all are about this extremely significant next release and its 
ability to change the world of software forever!

Humbly and sincerely,

Felix