Re: Netbeans X & Java 11?

[dalibor topic]

On 18.11.2018 22:01, Michael Dever wrote:

Oracle seems to have Destroyed the combination of:
Netbeans, JavaFX, and SceneBuilder, building JavaFX from an IDE.
Hi,


It sounds as if you would like to discuss issues or improvements in 
Apache NetBeans. In order for your insights to have the best effect, you 
should be doing so on an Apache NetBeans mailing list.


Please see https://netbeans.apache.org/ for the many different ways of 
participating in Apache NetBeans.


cheers,
dalibor topic
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Re: Netbeans X & Java 11?

[Julian Jupiter]

Hi Mike,

Check this YT video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9aoicDiQ_A=share

Thank you.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 6:30 PM José Pereda  Hi, Mike.
>
> Did you check the docs? https://openjfx.io/openjfx-docs/
>
> There is a whole section for IDEs, including NetBeans (
> https://openjfx.io/openjfx-docs/#IDE-NetBeans), that explains how to work
> with both modular and non-modular projects.
>
> While you may have noticed that the usual JavaFX project template doesn't
> work, you can use a regular Java project, instead (the ant tasks have not
> been updated yet, but they are working on it).
>
> There is a sample (a simple HelloFX that uses FXML) for each possible case
> (modular/non-modular, each one with IDE tools, Maven or Gradle), that can
> be found here: https://github.com/openjfx/samples/tree/master/IDE/NetBeans
> .
>
> And those FXML files work of course with Scene Builder (10, but 11 will be
> released very soon).
>
> Hope this helps you. Otherwise please feel free to file an issue:
> https://github.com/openjfx/openjfx-docs/issues
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:22 AM Selim Dincer  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > IntelliJ works quite OK with 11. Make sure to rightclick the fxml files
> ->
> > open in scenebuilder instead of the integrated one because that's an
> older
> > version. Also if you want to run your app without maven / gradle then you
> > need to download the javafx sdk and set JAVA_HOME otherwise you will get
> > some weird error. Also make sure to configure your run configuration
> > exactly like the recommended maven / gradle run configurations.
> > Apart from that the guide on the openjfx site (the gradle variant) kind
> of
> > worked for me.
> >
> > This is why I suggested something like spring initializr or vert.x
> starter
> > before.
> >
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018, 22:02 Michael Dever  wrote:
> >
> > > Oracle seems to have Destroyed the combination of:
> > > Netbeans, JavaFX, and SceneBuilder, building JavaFX from an IDE.
> > >
> > > Is there any other IDE that supports and builds: JavaFX FXML
> > Applications,
> > > out of the box that just works, and that you can design the GUI
> > > application from SceneBuilder?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike Dever
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
>

Re: Netbeans X & Java 11?

[José Pereda]

Hi, Mike.

Did you check the docs? https://openjfx.io/openjfx-docs/

There is a whole section for IDEs, including NetBeans (
https://openjfx.io/openjfx-docs/#IDE-NetBeans), that explains how to work
with both modular and non-modular projects.

While you may have noticed that the usual JavaFX project template doesn't
work, you can use a regular Java project, instead (the ant tasks have not
been updated yet, but they are working on it).

There is a sample (a simple HelloFX that uses FXML) for each possible case
(modular/non-modular, each one with IDE tools, Maven or Gradle), that can
be found here: https://github.com/openjfx/samples/tree/master/IDE/NetBeans.

And those FXML files work of course with Scene Builder (10, but 11 will be
released very soon).

Hope this helps you. Otherwise please feel free to file an issue:
https://github.com/openjfx/openjfx-docs/issues




On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:22 AM Selim Dincer  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> IntelliJ works quite OK with 11. Make sure to rightclick the fxml files ->
> open in scenebuilder instead of the integrated one because that's an older
> version. Also if you want to run your app without maven / gradle then you
> need to download the javafx sdk and set JAVA_HOME otherwise you will get
> some weird error. Also make sure to configure your run configuration
> exactly like the recommended maven / gradle run configurations.
> Apart from that the guide on the openjfx site (the gradle variant) kind of
> worked for me.
>
> This is why I suggested something like spring initializr or vert.x starter
> before.
>
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018, 22:02 Michael Dever 
> > Oracle seems to have Destroyed the combination of:
> > Netbeans, JavaFX, and SceneBuilder, building JavaFX from an IDE.
> >
> > Is there any other IDE that supports and builds: JavaFX FXML
> Applications,
> > out of the box that just works, and that you can design the GUI
> > application from SceneBuilder?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike Dever
> >
> >
> >
>


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Re: Netbeans X & Java 11?

[Selim Dincer]

Hi,

IntelliJ works quite OK with 11. Make sure to rightclick the fxml files ->
open in scenebuilder instead of the integrated one because that's an older
version. Also if you want to run your app without maven / gradle then you
need to download the javafx sdk and set JAVA_HOME otherwise you will get
some weird error. Also make sure to configure your run configuration
exactly like the recommended maven / gradle run configurations.
Apart from that the guide on the openjfx site (the gradle variant) kind of
worked for me.

This is why I suggested something like spring initializr or vert.x starter
before.

On Sun, 18 Nov 2018, 22:02 Michael Dever  Oracle seems to have Destroyed the combination of:
> Netbeans, JavaFX, and SceneBuilder, building JavaFX from an IDE.
>
> Is there any other IDE that supports and builds: JavaFX FXML Applications,
> out of the box that just works, and that you can design the GUI
> application from SceneBuilder?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Dever
>
>
>

Re: Netbeans X & Java 11?

[Ty Young]

On 11/18/18 3:01 PM, Michael Dever wrote:

Oracle seems to have Destroyed the combination of:
Netbeans, JavaFX, and SceneBuilder, building JavaFX from an IDE.

Is there any other IDE that supports and builds: JavaFX FXML Applications,
out of the box that just works, and that you can design the GUI application 
from SceneBuilder?


Thanks,
Mike Dever




Hi Mike,


I'm assuming you're getting a missing JavaFX deployment error which is 
the only error I could get with Java 11/JavaFX11 JDK in Netbeans with 
FXML and non modular application in Linux. As result of Oracle's 
careless deprecation and removal rampage, none of the non modular JavaFX 
applications in Netbeans(even 9!) work regardless of whether your JavaFX 
application is FXML or Java(which is all of templates/samples, by the 
by). I've brought this up before on this mailing list before in a bit of 
a rant and no one seemed to care to acknowledge that it was even an 
issue. There is some effort to make a replacement however it's being 
spearheaded by a company other than Oracle(abd IIRC is fit for primarily 
their needs. I couldn't get it to work for my jLink app) and who know 
when or if at all it will be integrated into JavaFX and Netbeans.



You can work around this by moving to a modular application. Sadly, 
Netbeans 9 does not provide any easy way to convert projects to the 
modular structure. Fortunately the process for converting it by hand is 
fairly easy for simple small projects:


1. Create a new modular application in Netbeans.

2. Copy /src/ to the modular applications 
/src/classes/


3. Fix module name in module-info and add exports.


This will break Git(or at least it did for me). Yes, it really sucks but 
this is what happens when companies abort useful tools/secondary 
features out of the blue like an unwanted child without warning, proper 
& complete replacement, or time for IDE developers to add features to 
help migrate users of these features gracefully. This corporate middle 
fingering "It's our way or the highway" attitude is only going to hurt 
Java as a whole as no one can depend on anything for any long period of 
time and what tools/secondary features are being supported for the time 
being don't have all the features or functionality that deprecated 
features do. To add icing to the cake, Netbeans was formerly developed 
by Oracle themselves. Ouch.



But now I'm just repeating myself and going off topic. Yeah, if it's a 
small project the above should work fine. You might even be able to 
automate it if you really need to.



Hope this helps.

Netbeans X & Java 11?

[Michael Dever]

Oracle seems to have Destroyed the combination of:
Netbeans, JavaFX, and SceneBuilder, building JavaFX from an IDE.

Is there any other IDE that supports and builds: JavaFX FXML Applications,
out of the box that just works, and that you can design the GUI application 
from SceneBuilder?


Thanks,
Mike Dever