[Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[Diva Canto]

Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and Offline IM 
addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core opensim. This means 
that core opensim will have support for these out of the box without 
having to install any further components (i.e. apache). They work both 
for standalones and grids. Diva Groups has the optional HG service for 
supporting groups with foreign users. It also implements notices with 
attachments, something that is missing from Flotsam groups. It does not 
implement the voting and accounting features of the viewer (patches 
welcome).


For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually exclusive 
-- the config decides which one to use.


The code will be added within the next week. If there are any issues or 
questions, let us know.


Cheers
Diva
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[André Verwijs]

NICE..!!  thanks :)

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Diva Canto  wrote:

> Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and Offline IM
> addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core opensim. This means
> that core opensim will have support for these out of the box without having
> to install any further components (i.e. apache). They work both for
> standalones and grids. Diva Groups has the optional HG service for
> supporting groups with foreign users. It also implements notices with
> attachments, something that is missing from Flotsam groups. It does not
> implement the voting and accounting features of the viewer (patches
> welcome).
>
> For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually exclusive
> -- the config decides which one to use.
>
> The code will be added within the next week. If there are any issues or
> questions, let us know.
>
> Cheers
> Diva
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[SignpostMarv Martin]

Wooh! :D
On 16/02/2013 20:07, Diva Canto wrote:
Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and Offline IM 
addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core opensim. This 
means that core opensim will have support for these out of the box 
without having to install any further components (i.e. apache). They 
work both for standalones and grids. Diva Groups has the optional HG 
service for supporting groups with foreign users. It also implements 
notices with attachments, something that is missing from Flotsam 
groups. It does not implement the voting and accounting features of 
the viewer (patches welcome).


For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually 
exclusive -- the config decides which one to use.


The code will be added within the next week. If there are any issues 
or questions, let us know.


Cheers
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[John Sheridan]

Really cool, thank you Diva! :)  I wonder, per chance could this commit 
be ported over to 0.7.5-postfixes?

On 02/16/2013 03:18 PM, André Verwijs wrote:

NICE..!!  thanks :)

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Diva Canto > wrote:


Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and
Offline IM addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core
opensim. This means that core opensim will have support for these
out of the box without having to install any further components
(i.e. apache). They work both for standalones and grids. Diva
Groups has the optional HG service for supporting groups with
foreign users. It also implements notices with attachments,
something that is missing from Flotsam groups. It does not
implement the voting and accounting features of the viewer
(patches welcome).

For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually
exclusive -- the config decides which one to use.

The code will be added within the next week. If there are any
issues or questions, let us know.

Cheers
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[Diva Canto]

Potentially yes. But it's probably worth a new version number.
Diva Groups works well within the limited testing I had time to do by 
myself; it needs a lot more testing, especially the grid configuration.


On 2/16/2013 12:29 PM, John Sheridan wrote:
Really cool, thank you Diva! :)  I wonder, per chance could this 
commit be ported over to 0.7.5-postfixes?

On 02/16/2013 03:18 PM, André Verwijs wrote:

NICE..!!  thanks :)

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Diva Canto > wrote:


Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and
Offline IM addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core
opensim. This means that core opensim will have support for these
out of the box without having to install any further components
(i.e. apache). They work both for standalones and grids. Diva
Groups has the optional HG service for supporting groups with
foreign users. It also implements notices with attachments,
something that is missing from Flotsam groups. It does not
implement the voting and accounting features of the viewer
(patches welcome).

For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually
exclusive -- the config decides which one to use.

The code will be added within the next week. If there are any
issues or questions, let us know.

Cheers
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[John Sheridan]

I don't have much of a user base as of yet, but I'll be glad to do 
whatever I can to help test.


On 02/16/2013 06:12 PM, Diva Canto wrote:

Potentially yes. But it's probably worth a new version number.
Diva Groups works well within the limited testing I had time to do by 
myself; it needs a lot more testing, especially the grid configuration.


On 2/16/2013 12:29 PM, John Sheridan wrote:
Really cool, thank you Diva! :)  I wonder, per chance could this 
commit be ported over to 0.7.5-postfixes?

On 02/16/2013 03:18 PM, André Verwijs wrote:

NICE..!!  thanks :)

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Diva Canto > wrote:


Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and
Offline IM addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core
opensim. This means that core opensim will have support for
these out of the box without having to install any further
components (i.e. apache). They work both for standalones and
grids. Diva Groups has the optional HG service for supporting
groups with foreign users. It also implements notices with
attachments, something that is missing from Flotsam groups. It
does not implement the voting and accounting features of the
viewer (patches welcome).

For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually
exclusive -- the config decides which one to use.

The code will be added within the next week. If there are any
issues or questions, let us know.

Cheers
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[R.Gunther]

Opensim core ?
I hope it's going to be a module, and not in the core of opensim. I have 
the idea there's already to much in core and not enough in modules.


On 2013-02-16 21:07, Diva Canto wrote:
Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and Offline IM 
addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core opensim. This 
means that core opensim will have support for these out of the box 
without having to install any further components (i.e. apache). They 
work both for standalones and grids. Diva Groups has the optional HG 
service for supporting groups with foreign users. It also implements 
notices with attachments, something that is missing from Flotsam 
groups. It does not implement the voting and accounting features of 
the viewer (patches welcome).


For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually 
exclusive -- the config decides which one to use.


The code will be added within the next week. If there are any issues 
or questions, let us know.


Cheers
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[John Sheridan]

I'm just theorizing here, but I would think that common components 
required for interoperability between grids would need to go into the 
core.  Just recently I finished writing my own offline IM handler in c# 
only to realize it didn't save messages that came in from over the 
hypergrid.  I've yet to dig in to see why, but after pouring over 
different examples on how to get profiles working I'm quickly realizing 
that there is a need for a common way for all of these services to 
communicate.


Its one thing to have your own proprietary communications formats if 
you're running a closed grid, but in the case where your components need 
to talk to other people's  - that seems to be a different story.  For 
example, with my profiles module I wanted to create a set of data 
objects (psProfile, psProfilePick, psProfileClassifieds, etc.), 
serialize them on the sim end, then ship them off to the profiles server 
and vice versa.  After seeing how other projects out there communicate 
with their server counterparts, it became blatantly apparent that my way 
would work just fine if it were used on a closed grid but not in a 
Hypergridded environment where it would need to talk to countless other 
profile servers that all likely communicate in different ways.  I'm 
pretty sure the same would hold true for offline messaging, groups, and 
so on.



On 02/16/2013 07:32 PM, R.Gunther wrote:

Opensim core ?
I hope it's going to be a module, and not in the core of opensim. I 
have the idea there's already to much in core and not enough in modules.


On 2013-02-16 21:07, Diva Canto wrote:
Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and Offline 
IM addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core opensim. This 
means that core opensim will have support for these out of the box 
without having to install any further components (i.e. apache). They 
work both for standalones and grids. Diva Groups has the optional HG 
service for supporting groups with foreign users. It also implements 
notices with attachments, something that is missing from Flotsam 
groups. It does not implement the voting and accounting features of 
the viewer (patches welcome).


For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually 
exclusive -- the config decides which one to use.


The code will be added within the next week. If there are any issues 
or questions, let us know.


Cheers
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