Re: [Opensim-users] Issue with Firestorm and opensim maybe
Ubit, Problem solved. It only exists on my laptop, my desktop works just fine. I have not used the old desktop for a year or so and it sure is slow, but this problem does not exist on it. I now have to figure out if the laptop has some setting wrong in Firestorm, or possible in windows. Thank you for confirming this function works fine. On my laptop it is acting kind of like the two options you have to play animations. where you can play them in world or local only. My laptop is stuck in local only for this hover height thing and who know what else may be affected by whatever is causing it. Thanks for the spot on advice. Slow Putzo -Original Message- From: Leal Duarte Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 4:53 AM To: opensim-users@opensimulator.org Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Issue with Firestorm and opensim maybe Hi fs quickpreferences hover seems working fine, at least with ubode. The alt does see the change, may take a few seconds.. Ubit On 19-Apr-22 02:21, tring...@gmail.com wrote: Need some help, To test why using quick preferences "hover height" in Firestorm viewer does not adjust what different users see I have done the following. I launched two instances of Firestorm and put them into split screen windows on a windows machine running windows 10. I logged into one using my normal avatar, and the other using my alt. I set the quick preferences "hover height" of both avatars to be zero. Both avatars now were standing perfectly on the ground. (I spent much time in appearances of both to get them perfectly standing on the ground and saved all changes before launching the two viewer screens. I used the quick preferences "hover Height" adjustment to adjust their hover height. As I suspected. only the avatar on the viewer I was making the adjustment on moved. My conclusion is that quick preferences "hover height" has nothing at all to do with what others see. It is a local adjustment only, and does not correctly change where the OSGrid or region servers think your avatar really is for other users. At this point I wonder, is this simply a useless adjustment Firestorm thinks is cool, or is firestorm really expecting the change to be sent to all server and is that change suppose to be stored in any assets on all servers where the changes are needed? In short, is this a Firestorm problem, a Linux problem, or is it an OSGrid problem. Searching with Google, no one has ever noticed this issue and no information is available. The instructions on Firestorm read as if they expect the hover height to change for all users. Maybe it does for SL but I have not been on SL for many years. I must point out too that my region servers on OSgrid are running old versions of linux, and also old versions of opensim. Fedora 26 for linux, and OSgrid 0.9.2.0 Yeti Deve8735b6997: 2021-09-16 18:39:32 +0100. I did test it by going to OSgrid lbsa fallback and observed the exact same issue . That eliminated my down level Linux and opensim concern but it could still be a opensim or Firestorm issue. My guess is that it is Firestorm and the issue is they do not say this is only a local adjustment and will not be reflected on any viewer other than the one it is being made on. In my opinion, if that is the case, it is a destructive and confusing optional command, or maybe opensim is not accepting the change made and it's not a part of any specifications? I wanted to discuss this issue here in the users list to see if this is a known issue, and save me a bunch of, try this, try that. At this point I believe this is something I can't fix, other than tell people that using that adjustment is useless for anything other than using it to make things look good for you only, or, for taking a picture or something static like that. Slow Putzo ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Issue with Firestorm and opensim maybe
Ubit, If that is the case, then something is set wrong in Firestorm itself. I trust your statement, as you have never lead me wrong in the past, and your advice has always been spot on. My regions are all using ubode too. We have made changes using "Hover Height" months ago and it still shows only in the viewer where the change was made. I live in the USA, my friend lives in England. Everyone I have talked to say they do not see any change in my hover height when I change it. If they change theirs, I do not see it. I was on LSBA for about 30 minutes, and on one viewer I raised one avatar, and on the other I lowered that avatar. I then typed the email I posted here and when I finished I closed down the testing. So for 30 minutes they never moved on the remote viewer. I did not try using viewers on two different computers, so maybe my laptop itself is the issue. I will do more testing using two different computers at the same time. Actually I'll first try the same test using a different computer. I have moved my avatar on my viewer to where I was standing on my friends head and stayed online for several hours leaving it exactly like that and she never saw my avatar move to the ridiculous setting. I never see her move either when she makes a change. I am going to go to the real LBSA now and ask everyone there if they see my avatar change it's hover position. Maybe it takes a little while I can understand that, but I think something maybe set wrong in the actual settings of my Firestorm if you say the change does show up in the remote viewers. This has been driving me nuts now for a few months, since January to be exact. I'll post back what I find so others do not waste time if this is a simple settings issue with my laptop. Slow Putzo -Original Message- From: Leal Duarte Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 4:53 AM To: opensim-users@opensimulator.org Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Issue with Firestorm and opensim maybe Hi fs quickpreferences hover seems working fine, at least with ubode. The alt does see the change, may take a few seconds.. Ubit On 19-Apr-22 02:21, tring...@gmail.com wrote: Need some help, To test why using quick preferences "hover height" in Firestorm viewer does not adjust what different users see I have done the following. I launched two instances of Firestorm and put them into split screen windows on a windows machine running windows 10. I logged into one using my normal avatar, and the other using my alt. I set the quick preferences "hover height" of both avatars to be zero. Both avatars now were standing perfectly on the ground. (I spent much time in appearances of both to get them perfectly standing on the ground and saved all changes before launching the two viewer screens. I used the quick preferences "hover Height" adjustment to adjust their hover height. As I suspected. only the avatar on the viewer I was making the adjustment on moved. My conclusion is that quick preferences "hover height" has nothing at all to do with what others see. It is a local adjustment only, and does not correctly change where the OSGrid or region servers think your avatar really is for other users. At this point I wonder, is this simply a useless adjustment Firestorm thinks is cool, or is firestorm really expecting the change to be sent to all server and is that change suppose to be stored in any assets on all servers where the changes are needed? In short, is this a Firestorm problem, a Linux problem, or is it an OSGrid problem. Searching with Google, no one has ever noticed this issue and no information is available. The instructions on Firestorm read as if they expect the hover height to change for all users. Maybe it does for SL but I have not been on SL for many years. I must point out too that my region servers on OSgrid are running old versions of linux, and also old versions of opensim. Fedora 26 for linux, and OSgrid 0.9.2.0 Yeti Deve8735b6997: 2021-09-16 18:39:32 +0100. I did test it by going to OSgrid lbsa fallback and observed the exact same issue . That eliminated my down level Linux and opensim concern but it could still be a opensim or Firestorm issue. My guess is that it is Firestorm and the issue is they do not say this is only a local adjustment and will not be reflected on any viewer other than the one it is being made on. In my opinion, if that is the case, it is a destructive and confusing optional command, or maybe opensim is not accepting the change made and it's not a part of any specifications? I wanted to discuss this issue here in the users list to see if this is a known issue, and save me a bunch of, try this, try that. At this point I believe this is something I can't fix, other than tell people that using that adjustment is useless for anything other than using it to make things look good for you only,
Re: [Opensim-users] Issue with Firestorm and opensim maybe
Hi fs quickpreferences hover seems working fine, at least with ubode. The alt does see the change, may take a few seconds.. Ubit On 19-Apr-22 02:21, tring...@gmail.com wrote: Need some help, To test why using quick preferences "hover height" in Firestorm viewer does not adjust what different users see I have done the following. I launched two instances of Firestorm and put them into split screen windows on a windows machine running windows 10. I logged into one using my normal avatar, and the other using my alt. I set the quick preferences "hover height" of both avatars to be zero. Both avatars now were standing perfectly on the ground. (I spent much time in appearances of both to get them perfectly standing on the ground and saved all changes before launching the two viewer screens. I used the quick preferences "hover Height" adjustment to adjust their hover height. As I suspected. only the avatar on the viewer I was making the adjustment on moved. My conclusion is that quick preferences "hover height" has nothing at all to do with what others see. It is a local adjustment only, and does not correctly change where the OSGrid or region servers think your avatar really is for other users. At this point I wonder, is this simply a useless adjustment Firestorm thinks is cool, or is firestorm really expecting the change to be sent to all server and is that change suppose to be stored in any assets on all servers where the changes are needed? In short, is this a Firestorm problem, a Linux problem, or is it an OSGrid problem. Searching with Google, no one has ever noticed this issue and no information is available. The instructions on Firestorm read as if they expect the hover height to change for all users. Maybe it does for SL but I have not been on SL for many years. I must point out too that my region servers on OSgrid are running old versions of linux, and also old versions of opensim. Fedora 26 for linux, and OSgrid 0.9.2.0 Yeti Deve8735b6997: 2021-09-16 18:39:32 +0100. I did test it by going to OSgrid lbsa fallback and observed the exact same issue . That eliminated my down level Linux and opensim concern but it could still be a opensim or Firestorm issue. My guess is that it is Firestorm and the issue is they do not say this is only a local adjustment and will not be reflected on any viewer other than the one it is being made on. In my opinion, if that is the case, it is a destructive and confusing optional command, or maybe opensim is not accepting the change made and it's not a part of any specifications? I wanted to discuss this issue here in the users list to see if this is a known issue, and save me a bunch of, try this, try that. At this point I believe this is something I can't fix, other than tell people that using that adjustment is useless for anything other than using it to make things look good for you only, or, for taking a picture or something static like that. Slow Putzo ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
[Opensim-users] Issue with Firestorm and opensim maybe
Need some help, To test why using quick preferences "hover height" in Firestorm viewer does not adjust what different users see I have done the following. I launched two instances of Firestorm and put them into split screen windows on a windows machine running windows 10. I logged into one using my normal avatar, and the other using my alt. I set the quick preferences "hover height" of both avatars to be zero. Both avatars now were standing perfectly on the ground. (I spent much time in appearances of both to get them perfectly standing on the ground and saved all changes before launching the two viewer screens. I used the quick preferences "hover Height" adjustment to adjust their hover height. As I suspected. only the avatar on the viewer I was making the adjustment on moved. My conclusion is that quick preferences "hover height" has nothing at all to do with what others see. It is a local adjustment only, and does not correctly change where the OSGrid or region servers think your avatar really is for other users. At this point I wonder, is this simply a useless adjustment Firestorm thinks is cool, or is firestorm really expecting the change to be sent to all server and is that change suppose to be stored in any assets on all servers where the changes are needed? In short, is this a Firestorm problem, a Linux problem, or is it an OSGrid problem. Searching with Google, no one has ever noticed this issue and no information is available. The instructions on Firestorm read as if they expect the hover height to change for all users. Maybe it does for SL but I have not been on SL for many years. I must point out too that my region servers on OSgrid are running old versions of linux, and also old versions of opensim. Fedora 26 for linux, and OSgrid 0.9.2.0 Yeti Deve8735b6997: 2021-09-16 18:39:32 +0100. I did test it by going to OSgrid lbsa fallback and observed the exact same issue . That eliminated my down level Linux and opensim concern but it could still be a opensim or Firestorm issue. My guess is that it is Firestorm and the issue is they do not say this is only a local adjustment and will not be reflected on any viewer other than the one it is being made on. In my opinion, if that is the case, it is a destructive and confusing optional command, or maybe opensim is not accepting the change made and it's not a part of any specifications? I wanted to discuss this issue here in the users list to see if this is a known issue, and save me a bunch of, try this, try that. At this point I believe this is something I can't fix, other than tell people that using that adjustment is useless for anything other than using it to make things look good for you only, or, for taking a picture or something static like that. Slow Putzo ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
