Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
Since OpenSim.ini and OpenSimDefaults.ini change over time (in sometimes useful ways), I copy the released versions of the files into my simulator run directories unchanged. That way I can get the latest update with minimal editing and merging. OpenSimulator, by default, reads all INI files in the bin/config directory. So, I create a file bin/config/me.ini that I fill with all the changes I want to overlay what is in OpenSim.ini and OpenSimDefaults.ini. That also keeps all my changes separate and easily findable. As noted above, OpenSimDefaults.ini and OpenSim.ini are read first so any values in other INI files replace the values in those files. As a side note, I also create a file bin/config/OpenSimAllows.ini (available at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86260377/OpenSimAllows.ini) which controls the access to all the 'os' functions. (Insert rant about wanting OpenSim functions on all the time and one should have to do something to restrict them if you want SL compatibility). On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: This is the case. We say not to change things directly in OpenSimDefaults.ini because that can change between releases, sometimes changing parameters to make OpenSimulator work better or resolve other issues. Hence, it's safer to override things in OpenSim.ini. There are a few more details about this at [1]. [1] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Configuring_Simulator_ Parameters#Changing_Simulator_Settings On 19/08/14 22:13, Thomas Ringate wrote: Isn't this dependent on your specific distribution of opensim? My understanding is that opensim first loads opensimdefault.ini, then loads opensim.ini, then loads grid.ini, and then loads gridcommon.ini There is nothing wrong with the same parameter being defined in every one of those files, and each can have a different setting. The one that will be in effect is the last one loaded. So, lets say there is a parameter of: PARM1 = never in opensimdefault.ini PARM1 = occasionally in opensim.ini PARM1 = somtimes in grid.ini PARM1 = always in gridcommon.ini The final setting of PARM1 will be always since that is the last value it was set to. It makes sense to put your modifications into the last file loaded to make sure some other file does not change it on you. You could add an include of your special modification to gridcommon.ini and call it mychanges.ini and put that file in some directory totally safe from updates. Just remember the includes position in the file is where you statements will reside. In the setting a values make sure the same parameter is not set after your include. For me I put all my modifications at the end of gridcommon.ini I could be all wet, but this has worked for me ever since I started doing programming. I doubt opensim uses any values until after it finishes loading them . -Original Message- From: Andre Verwijs Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:54 PM To: opensim-users@opensimulator.org Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ... R.Gunther schreef op 19-8-2014 om 22:31: Why ? because opensimdefault.ini can be changed. and opensim.ini is not getting overwritten default by other. Depends maby on the packadge you use. true, i always keep a backup so i don't lose anything... :) ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users -- Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) OSVW Consulting http://justincc.org http://twitter.com/justincc ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
Op 20-08-14 om 15:46 schreef Mister Blue: Since OpenSim.ini and OpenSimDefaults.ini change over time (in sometimes useful ways), I copy the released versions of the files into my simulator run directories unchanged. That way I can get the latest update with minimal editing and merging. OpenSimulator, by default, reads all INI files in the bin/config directory. So, I create a file bin/config/me.ini that I fill with all the changes I want to overlay what is in OpenSim.ini and OpenSimDefaults.ini. That also keeps all my changes separate and easily findable. As noted above, OpenSimDefaults.ini and OpenSim.ini are read first so any values in other INI files replace the values in those files. As a side note, I also create a file bin/config/OpenSimAllows.ini (available at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86260377/OpenSimAllows.ini) which controls the access to all the 'os' functions. (Insert rant about wanting OpenSim functions on all the time and one should have to do something to restrict them if you want SL compatibility). thanks for reply :) and where do you add me.ini and OpenSimAllows.ini to make opensim load/read it? i see i need to add the most changes to opensim.ini witch is easier with upgrading... i alway thought both were changing with every git master update, depending on the source code change. (opensim core functions within opensim.ini and miscellaneous functions within opensimdefault.ini) but justin gave me a link with this subject, so i can do some studying :) never to old to learn :) .. ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
ODE still works great for normal 265x265 regions I don't think it should be removed from git master yet until bulletsim is fully tested and all small bugs are fixed Verzonden via Yahoo Mail op Android ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
[Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
R.Gunther schreef op 19-8-2014 om 13:48: Want to make a note because i think its not enabled by default, put bulletsim in its own thread. you can do that by adding under [bulletsim] in opensim.ini UseSeparatePhysicsThread = true that seems to improve things to. ok : ) thanks for tip ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
[Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
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[Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
Want to make a note because i think its not enabled by default, put bulletsim in its own thread. you can do that by adding under [bulletsim] in opensim.ini UseSeparatePhysicsThread = true that seems to improve things to. this also in OpenSimDefault.ini ... :) ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
Isn't this dependent on your specific distribution of opensim? My understanding is that opensim first loads opensimdefault.ini, then loads opensim.ini, then loads grid.ini, and then loads gridcommon.ini There is nothing wrong with the same parameter being defined in every one of those files, and each can have a different setting. The one that will be in effect is the last one loaded. So, lets say there is a parameter of: PARM1 = never in opensimdefault.ini PARM1 = occasionally in opensim.ini PARM1 = somtimes in grid.ini PARM1 = always in gridcommon.ini The final setting of PARM1 will be always since that is the last value it was set to. It makes sense to put your modifications into the last file loaded to make sure some other file does not change it on you. You could add an include of your special modification to gridcommon.ini and call it mychanges.ini and put that file in some directory totally safe from updates. Just remember the includes position in the file is where you statements will reside. In the setting a values make sure the same parameter is not set after your include. For me I put all my modifications at the end of gridcommon.ini I could be all wet, but this has worked for me ever since I started doing programming. I doubt opensim uses any values until after it finishes loading them . -Original Message- From: Andre Verwijs Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:54 PM To: opensim-users@opensimulator.org Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ... R.Gunther schreef op 19-8-2014 om 22:31: Why ? because opensimdefault.ini can be changed. and opensim.ini is not getting overwritten default by other. Depends maby on the packadge you use. true, i always keep a backup so i don't lose anything... :) ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
This is the case. We say not to change things directly in OpenSimDefaults.ini because that can change between releases, sometimes changing parameters to make OpenSimulator work better or resolve other issues. Hence, it's safer to override things in OpenSim.ini. There are a few more details about this at [1]. [1] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Configuring_Simulator_Parameters#Changing_Simulator_Settings On 19/08/14 22:13, Thomas Ringate wrote: Isn't this dependent on your specific distribution of opensim? My understanding is that opensim first loads opensimdefault.ini, then loads opensim.ini, then loads grid.ini, and then loads gridcommon.ini There is nothing wrong with the same parameter being defined in every one of those files, and each can have a different setting. The one that will be in effect is the last one loaded. So, lets say there is a parameter of: PARM1 = never in opensimdefault.ini PARM1 = occasionally in opensim.ini PARM1 = somtimes in grid.ini PARM1 = always in gridcommon.ini The final setting of PARM1 will be always since that is the last value it was set to. It makes sense to put your modifications into the last file loaded to make sure some other file does not change it on you. You could add an include of your special modification to gridcommon.ini and call it mychanges.ini and put that file in some directory totally safe from updates. Just remember the includes position in the file is where you statements will reside. In the setting a values make sure the same parameter is not set after your include. For me I put all my modifications at the end of gridcommon.ini I could be all wet, but this has worked for me ever since I started doing programming. I doubt opensim uses any values until after it finishes loading them . -Original Message- From: Andre Verwijs Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:54 PM To: opensim-users@opensimulator.org Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ... R.Gunther schreef op 19-8-2014 om 22:31: Why ? because opensimdefault.ini can be changed. and opensim.ini is not getting overwritten default by other. Depends maby on the packadge you use. true, i always keep a backup so i don't lose anything... :) ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users -- Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) OSVW Consulting http://justincc.org http://twitter.com/justincc ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
I am using 1024x1024 var regions and I have not this wall effect problem with Singularity or Firestorm viewers. I am using vehicles and I have not this wall effect. You can see here http://encuen3.com/singularity.mp4 The tilemap problems are viewer side problems, not server side problems, may be we must have our own opensim viewer. I never test with Kokua viewer. Best regards, Luisillo 2014-08-15 23:56 GMT+02:00 Andre Verwijs dutch.gl...@yahoo.com: thanks for reply :) Well firestorm and singularity start fine with Varregion(s) as Kokua, but for all three: you can't walk beyond the 265 barrier... for example if set a 512x512 Varregion, you walk agains a wall at 265 meters because the map still thinks you have a 265x265 region. Map coordinates are not yet implemented with Varregions (calculate avatar position, or prim position if build something) This also goes for teleporting. this need to be perfected in the future if you want Varregion to work fully, and also opensim viewers (other than firestorm, singularity and Kokua) need to be compatible. OpenSimFan.. ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
WOW! :-! Thank you very much for video :-) I'll have to to try with Singularity to see if it works for me... And check open-simulator settings to make it work. ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
I have a modified value in OpenSim.ini because my avatar is little . [BulletSim] ; Avatar physics height adjustments. ; http://opensimulator.org/wiki/BulletSim#Adjusting_Avatar_Height ; MODIFIED BECAUSE I AM OVER THE FLOOR OR PRIMS IF IS BY DEFAULT. AvatarHeightLowFudge = -0.3 ; Adjustment at low end of height range ;AvatarHeightMidFudge = 0.0 ; Adjustment at mid point of avatar height range ;AvatarHeightHighFudge = 0.6 ; Adjustment at high end of height range ;; Default values: ;; AvatarStepHeight = 0.5 ;; AvatarStepApproachFactor = 0.6 ;; AvatarStepUpCorrectionFactor = 1.0 ;; AvatarStepForceFactor = 1.0 ;; AvatarStepSmoothingSteps = 2 Best Regards, Luisillo --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protección de avast! Antivirus está activa. http://www.avast.com ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
Dont use ODE with a var region. On 2014-08-16 17:58, Andre Verwijs wrote: and i'll have to try with Open Dynamics Engine and BulletSim Physics Engine to see if there's a difference OpenSimFan ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
[Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
Varregion works :) but physics need update i keep disappearing in to the ground. And, as far as i know there no viewers yet with full support. I asked on the kokua forum they say.. will support for “Variable-sized regions” be added in the far future? NickyP Kokua-3.7.6 var regions are somewhat supported. There are a few map and teleport issues to workout. Varregion looks very promising, much more stable than mega region i think... thank you.. ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
Firestorm and Singularity have not problems. --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protección de avast! Antivirus está activa. http://www.avast.com ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
Good to know that firestorm and singularity have got no problems ... ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Varregion works :) but physics need update ...
thanks for reply :) Well firestorm and singularity start fine with Varregion(s) as Kokua, but for all three: you can't walk beyond the 265 barrier... for example if set a 512x512 Varregion, you walk agains a wall at 265 meters because the map still thinks you have a 265x265 region. Map coordinates are not yet implemented with Varregions (calculate avatar position, or prim position if build something) This also goes for teleporting. this need to be perfected in the future if you want Varregion to work fully, and also opensim viewers (other than firestorm, singularity and Kokua) need to be compatible. OpenSimFan.. ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
