Re: [osol-discuss] KDE 3.4.3 @ Sunfreeware

2005-12-28 Thread ken mays
Congrads Stefan and Steve C. !!! Any ETA for the KDE
work to be ported to the Companion CD?!?

~ Ken Mays



--- Stefan Teleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Many Thank You's to Steve Christensen for making KDE
 3.4.3 available
 at Sun Freeware and its mirrors:
 
 http://www.sunfreeware.com/
 
 --Stefan
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] KDE 3.4.3 @ Sunfreeware

2005-12-28 Thread Stefan Teleman
On 12/28/05, ken mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Congrads Stefan and Steve C. !!! Any ETA for the KDE
 work to be ported to the Companion CD?!?

i don't know precisely _yet_, because there are at least two rather
complex steps to be  taken for KDE to make it on the Companion CD:

1. figuring out which of the *many* KDE requirement libraries go on
the Companion CD as part of the core distribution, and which go as
part of the KDE requirements dependencies only.
2 (a). building these libraries with the correct Companion CD RPATH and location
2 (b). building KDE with the correct Companion CD RPATH
3. testing thoroughly 2(a) and 2(b).

As soon as we figure these out, we can have a more precise timeline.

--Stefan

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-28 Thread ken mays
The 'desktop' work at Blastwave is a bit broader in
scope. Blastwave has provided not only KDE, but
several of the other major UNIX desktop environments
like Xfce *AND** GNOME - as well as many of the
freedesktop.org software ported to Solaris.

I mentioned before that Stefan and I do similar work
with KDE/Solaris porting, yet my scope was for legacy
support within the SPARCv8 (i.e. sun4m and above) and
SPARCv9 platform realms - when it came to KDE for
Solaris as well as Trolltech's Qt C++ development
framework. Efforts are branched between people porting
KDE with either GCC and Sun Studio compilers to
Solaris and what hardware platforms they choose to
support. At the end of the day, the end users get KDE
on Solaris either way.

The UNIX desktop environments, Scribus, and OpenGL
development/gaming on Solaris x86 were a few of my
biggest concerns back in 2002-2003. We've surpassed
all of those milestones. Now, we are faced with just
getting the latest JDS-GNOME 2.12.2 into the hands of
people (which is Glynn's (GMan) area) and journalists.
Then, it is just making consumers/end users 'aware' on
how you can run KDE apps under JDS/GNOME and vice
versa.

I'd hope Y2006 starts with many end users having
JDS/GNOME 2.12.2 and KDE 3.5 available on Solaris as a
desktop option. Whether either one is better than the
other is just another threaded subject of
discussion... ;oP

~ Ken Mays






--- Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 12/27/05, John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Dec 27, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Ché Kristo wrote:
 
  IMO, the best way to make positive ground on KDE
 on Solaris is to
  latch on to Stefan Teleman's KDE work.
 
 Or you could latch onto Ken Mays work with KDE at
 Blastwave.
 


http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0039/index.html
 
 Dennis
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[osol-discuss] NetBSD's pkgsrc on OpenSolaris

2005-12-28 Thread Roman
If you've never heard of pkgsrc, have a look at http://www.pkgsrc.org/

Basically pkgsrc is a cross platform package management framework, that has 
support for many different Unix operating systems, not just NetBSD. I use 
pkgsrc quite successfuly on Solaris, however there is still a large number of 
packages that don't build on Solaris, due to a different operating environment 
and compilers (I use SunStudio 11 compilers).

OpenSolaris is pretty much useless on desktop if you can't run your favourite 
web browser, email client, etc. There are a few sites that offer precompiled 
Solaris native packages, but they are not as good as pkgsrc. Also Solaris 
native packaging system sucks, compared to pkgsrc.

I think some people at Sun are aware of pkgsrc (they even donated a few sparc 
machines to NetBSD project). I was wondering if Sun had any plans to adopt 
pkgsrc for OpenSolaris or put more effort behind it. The infrastructure is 
there, what's missing are the people who regularly build packages on Solaris, 
find and fix problems and submit patches.
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Re: [osol-discuss] NetBSD's pkgsrc on OpenSolaris

2005-12-28 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 05:31 -0800, Roman wrote:
 OpenSolaris is pretty much useless on desktop if you can't run your favourite 
 web browser, email client, etc. There are a few sites that offer precompiled 
 Solaris native packages, but they are not as good as pkgsrc. Also Solaris 
 native packaging system sucks, compared to pkgsrc.

Actually, native Solaris's PKG system is quite advanced but not eye
candy and hard to use. But today OpenSolaris users has another option
besides pkgsrc. Its Debian's based Nexenta OS with 18000+ packages
avaialable in source form and 3000+ in binary form. (as of today). And
number packages is growing. Debian repository has everything
latest/greates. And pretty much all of available Debian packages
compiles on NexentaOS quite easily. (remember that Debian is
platform-independent technology, i.e. it has ports on Linux, FreeBSD,
Darwin and now SunOS).

Its actually really cool to find out that on the second day after new
version of mplayer is released, corresponding Debian package gets
updated to the latest.

Check out http://www.gnusolaris.org

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[osol-discuss] NexentaOS GUI configuration tools fully ported

2005-12-28 Thread Erast Benson
Hi Guys,

Just wanted to let you know that with help of system-tools-backends
maintainers I was working on system-tools-backends and
gnome-system-tools frontends to bring GUI tools up to the level when
average user could easy configure NexentaOS, new exciting Ubuntu
GNU/Solaris based operating system!

I ported almost all system-tools-backends components and did quite a lot
of bug fixing and SunOS-awareness fixes in gnome-system-tools frontends.

Specific OpenSolaris/Nexenta features fully supported:

* SMF management (start,stop,view)
* dfstab NFS and Samba shares
* native OpenSolaris Wifi network locator and configuration using
wificonfig and native wireless drivers
* native NIC interfaces configuration which utilizes existing
configuration schema, i.e. /etc/netmasks, /etc/networks,
/etc/hostname.$dev, etc
* native NTP client and timezone support
* disk administration with UFS partition support

Backends are fully integrated into Nexenta desktop, for instance,
missing NTP or Samba packages will be requested via Synaptic package
manager and will be downloaded via popup GUIs. Nautilus integrated with
disks-admin as well as the rest of tools spread out through the GNOME's
menu and options.

Check out screenshot at my homepage:
http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/ErastBenson

If you are not Nexenta OS user yet, than become one and help us make it
the best OS environment available around!

Enjoy and happy new year!!!
Erast

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[osol-discuss] Re: Problems with the Solaris Express downloadpage, anyone else too?

2005-12-28 Thread Kenneth Gullberg
Still having problems, both from work and home.. can anyone confirm this?
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Problems with the Solaris Express downloadpage, anyone else too?

2005-12-28 Thread Vincent Yau

I just tried to download at Solaris Express and I saw the 4 iso files for
build 28 but when I click on any of them, I got a File Not Found error.

Does that mean we have to wait till next week for a fix?

--Vincent
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Problems with the Solaris Express downloadpage, anyone else too?

2005-12-28 Thread Bruce Riddle

Vincent Yau wrote:


I just tried to download at Solaris Express and I saw the 4 iso files for
build 28 but when I click on any of them, I got a File Not Found error.

Does that mean we have to wait till next week for a fix?



I don't know if we have to wait a week.
There seems to be an equivalent post at yahoo groups:

Anyone else having problems downloading the CD ISO's?  I keep getting
file not found errors when clicking on the individual files to download.


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[osol-discuss] KDE Translucency

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Gress
I'm trying to configure my KDE environment for its translucency.  I'm 
using 3.4.3 compiled with Suns compilers, basically the latest version 
available at http://www.solaris.kde.org/.  The requirements state:


1) Xorg or =to 6.8

   Done, Solaris 10, Update 1 installed

2) GPU hardware-accelerated Xrender

   Done, Nvidia Quatro 3000, with latest graphics driver (v8178)

3) Entries into xorg.conf.

Section Extensions
Option Composite Enable
EndSection

Option RenderAccel true

   Done, manually entered

4) Installed the kompmgr that came with kwin.

   Problem.  Searched the whole installation for this file, not there.

Where do I retrieve this file?


Paul
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Re: [osol-discuss] KDE Translucency

2005-12-28 Thread Stefan Teleman
On 12/28/05, Paul Gress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 4) Installed the kompmgr that came with kwin.

 Problem.  Searched the whole installation for this file, not there.

kompmgr cannot be built (yet) on S10 because the S10 Xorg 6.8.2 does
not yet support XComposite, and kcompmgr requires XComposite. i have
built XComposite on
my own (from the Xorg sources), but it is extremely unstable and i
decided against releasing it, since it would have been of very little
use anyway.

the situation is identical on SPARC.

--Stefan

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Re: [osol-discuss] KDE Translucency

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Gress

Stefan Teleman wrote:


On 12/28/05, Paul Gress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


4) Installed the kompmgr that came with kwin.

Problem.  Searched the whole installation for this file, not there.
   



kompmgr cannot be built (yet) on S10 because the S10 Xorg 6.8.2 does
not yet support XComposite, and kcompmgr requires XComposite. i have
built XComposite on
my own (from the Xorg sources), but it is extremely unstable and i
decided against releasing it, since it would have been of very little
use anyway.

the situation is identical on SPARC.
 

The XComposite is an Xorg library.  Shouldn't this be Sun's 
responsibility to add.  Are they going to have it in Xorg 6.9?


Paul
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Re: [osol-discuss] KDE Translucency

2005-12-28 Thread Stefan Teleman
On 12/28/05, Paul Gress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The XComposite is an Xorg library.  Shouldn't this be Sun's
 responsibility to add.  Are they going to have it in Xorg 6.9?

i really don't know. maybe AlanC could shed some light on this when he
gets back from vacation.

--Stefan

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Problems with the Solaris Express downloadpage, anyone else too?

2005-12-28 Thread Vincent Yau
I think Sun employees are off between Christmas to New Year, which meansthis problem may be addressed till next week.On 12/28/05, Bruce Riddle
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Vincent Yau wrote:
 I just tried to download at Solaris Express and I saw the 4 iso files for build 28 but when I click on any of them, I got a File Not Found error. Does that mean we have to wait till next week for a fix?
I don't know if we have to wait a week.There seems to be an equivalent post at yahoo groups:Anyone else having problems downloading the CD ISO's?I keep gettingfile not found errors when clicking on the individual files to download.

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