Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Solaris 11 - The First Cloud OS

2011-11-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Cindy Swearingen
cindy.swearin...@oracle.com writes:
 I'm adding a few more tips, including the one below, to our upgrade
 instructions.


I should probably know this, but where are those Instructions?

When I run pkg update '@lastest' I get:
  No updates available for this image

Publisher is:
   http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release/

Should it be something else to expect an update?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Solaris 11 - The First Cloud OS

2011-11-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Cindy Swearingen
 cindy.swearin...@oracle.com writes:
 I'm adding a few more tips, including the one below, to our upgrade
 instructions.


 I should probably know this, but where are those Instructions?

 When I run pkg update '@lastest' I get:
   No updates available for this image

 Publisher is:
http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release/

 Should it be something else to expect an update?

Egad... never mind, its all in the thread:
Subject: How to Configure a Support Repository for Solaris 11

Sorry for the line noise

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Re: [osol-discuss] How to Configure a Support Repository for Solaris 11

2011-11-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Cindy Swearingen
cindy.swearin...@oracle.com writes:

Sorry, I'm kind of distorting the subject of the thread but I'm seeing
a different problem... mine is that after logging in at the site
mentioned in the directions, to get a an SSL Key nad Certificate at
http://pkg-register.oracle.com/

I must need to do some other intermediate step.  I get this error
information: 

,
|   There has been a problem with contacting the entitlement
|   server. You will only be able to issue new certificates for public
|   products. Please try again later
|   
|   
|   CERTIFICATES FOR rea...@newsguy.com
|   No certificates issued.
`

I don't recall now, if I did anything special about registering.  Does
it happen during install, or something I would have needed to do
separately? 

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Re: [osol-discuss] Change host name on ora-Sol 11

2011-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Haywood mark.hayw...@oracle.com
writes:
 I think there might be a bug here. You will also have to restart the
 service, 'svcadm restart node'.

Good catch.. I probably would have been blundering around trying
figure out why the name wasn't changing.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Change host name on ora-Sol 11

2011-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Cindy Swearingen
cindy.swearin...@oracle.com writes:

 Hi Harry,

 You might review this summary table of changes to see what else
 has changed and it should point you in the right direction:

 http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E23824_01/html/E24456/compare-1.html

 If it doesn't, let us know.

This is minor, but one thing I noticed is that a page search on
`hostname' doesn't lead to that section.  Maybe no one else would
search for it using hostname maybe everybody else would use
nodename, but if I had not known there was something there explaining
the new change of hostname procedure, I might have just assumed
there was no change.

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[osol-discuss] Change host name on ora-Sol 11

2011-11-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Is there some different way to change host name in oracle-solaris 11?

There is no /etc/nodename file.  and I find the only place under /etc/
the hosts' current name is referenced is in:
   /etc/svc/profile/site/sc_profile.xml

That doesn't look like the kind of place renaming would be done.

So any special technique involved or am expected to create /etc/nodename?


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Re: [osol-discuss] Where can I find a full Walk thru setting up nfs4 from scratch

2011-11-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com writes:

 On 11/14/11 02:38 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Running openindiana b 151a as vm guest on host win7

 Where can I find an up to date detailed description of setting up nfs4
 from scratch on a home lan zfs server with linux nfs4 clients.

 There really isn't that much to it, just set snarenfs=true on the
 filesystem(s) you want to share.

Egad... that's it?

I must be mixing up with having set up the automounter for nfs .. I
remember getting tangled up with some edit of files last time I did
this, which by now must be a pretty while ago.

The solaris box will be both server and client.

Is there a good URL for whatever is involved getting the NFS client
shares auto mounted?  They would be on a Debian linux server.  Both
boxes will be both server and client.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Where can I find a full Walk thru setting up nfs4 from scratch

2011-11-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com writes:

 Is there a good URL for whatever is involved getting the NFS client
 shares auto mounted?  They would be on a Debian linux server.  Both
 boxes will be both server and client.

 For Solaris, man automount.

Yes, of course but if you don't really understand that page then is
there a more detailed URL with more examples somewhere?

As always the man page is intended for someone who has the basic idea
and just needs reminders of syntax or the like... I need to start
somewhere below that.

For example:

From man automount
 (/etc/auto_master)
# Master map for automounter
   #
   +auto_master
   /net  -hosts-nosuid
   /home auto_home

It says that `+auto_master' is reference to NIS or NIS+ map if one
exists.

So if one does not exist do you leave `+auto_master' out?

 `/homeauto_home'

Is auto_home a reference to another file somewhere? Or is it meant
verbatim?  Or am I supposed to know to put a map entry there...  like
host:/path/to ?

In my case I want to mount a directory from a linux machine at 

/pub
and another at
   /projects

On the linux machine `pub' is found at /pub
`projects' is found at /path/to/projects

After studying that man page I still have no idea what my entries should
look like.  And further if auto_pub is a map... what does it look
like?  There appear to be `direct' and `indirect' ... and ...

 /pub   linux.machine.onlan:/pub  which, if any options ?

/pub auto_pub ?  (and if so, is auto_pub another file   somewhere?)

Then the whole question of possible options leads off into more
man pages with more confusing information.  That is, confusing unless
you are at or above a fairly sophisticated level already.

I need to see some simplified examples that take the whole matter up
in one go and explain why, for someone who is not already at a fairly
sophisticated level... Or in fact is in no way sophisticated at all.

If it matters there are users with the same name and group.  The
numeric gid is also the same. Uid is different and unless I really
need to, I'd as soon leave that alone since there are already numbers
of files belonging to a specific (though different) number uid on both
machines.


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[osol-discuss] Where can I find a full Walk thru setting up nfs4 from scratch

2011-11-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Running openindiana b 151a as vm guest on host win7

Where can I find an up to date detailed description of setting up nfs4
from scratch on a home lan zfs server with linux nfs4 clients.

I've turned up loads of stuff googling, way too much to paw through it
all. 

I'm running openindiana and have posted a similar request on that
group. 

Some of the directions I've found insist on setting up nis.  Do I
really need nis to be setup to share fs with nfs on a home lan?

This is a home lan with no real internet address on the inner network,
just a homemade 192.168.1.0/24 setup.  With a domain name of
`local.lan'.

I'm not sure how that effects how I setup nfs4.

I need the most basic guidance on this... I do not have a working
knowledge of nfs.

Hopefully there is some url online for real greenhorns that describes
how to do this in detail.

When I start to edit /etc/default/nfs as described in some of the
directions I've found I see:

  # Moved to SMF. Use sharectl(1M) to manage NFS properties.

So at least several of the guides I've run across are apparently out
of date and insist on editing /etc/default/nfs.

Hard to tell what guides hold water for modern solaris and offshoots.

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Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express

2011-07-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Gary gdri...@gmail.com writes:

 I don't know if gmane archives it but comp.unix.solaris is still
 somewhat active. However, most discussion exclusive to Solaris 11 may
 be found on the sysadmin and dev fora here;
 http://forums.oracle.com/forums/category.jspa?categoryID=303

Thanks for the link.  I just posted a question there about whether
that forum is available by way of NNTP.

Do you know if that forum is available by NNTP?

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[osol-discuss] solaris 11 express

2011-07-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone tell me if there is a group on www.gmane.org's nntp service
that is intended to discuss (oracle) Solaris 11 express?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Gary gdri...@gmail.com writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:
 You can spend less with a dedicated predesigned commercial unit...
 Can you name a few?

 I didn't catch how many drives you said you needed. And was it this
 thread that I already responded to -- 

I'll use 8 drives if I want to use what I already have on a
dysfunctional zfs server 2@500 (ide [pata] 2@500sataII 2@750sata)

I expected to buy a pair of 1TB drives.  I've been running in a
mirrored setup so need 2X whatever drives I use.

I could buy bigger disks but of course, that would mean letting 6drives
I already have just set around. 

If I bought 4 2tb drives I'd have about the same capacity but it would
cost around $400 (or is it cheaper for 4 2tb drivs?)

One tempting thing about the Proliant Microserver N36L, It can be
gotten damned cheap if this is the one you mean:

 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=2190307#TS

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[osol-discuss] Would I be wasting my time with intel P4 3GBram (32bit)

2011-02-22 Thread Harry Putnam
I will soon have a pair of older P4 3.2 Ghz (32bit) (single core)
to put out to pasture.

Would I be wasting my time thinking of using one or both for zfs
fileserver, and sharespace to carry out video editing and other
Graphics From networked i7 running Win 7.
 

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com writes:

 Unless Ian C. is right about ECC, then this board has the same
 notation as the other one:

 All I said was if they don't say ECC is supported, it isn't!  In this
 case, they do.

Ian, I'm the source of the problem on this.

Your earlier comment was made about a board that says the exact same
thing as the board referred to in my para above.

So I thought you were saying that even though there is some comment
about ECC, doesn't mean they actually support it.

But the rub comes in that on that earlier message you were responding
to the first time, I put the WRONG URL for that board, so if you
looked at that URL thinking it was the board I meant... then on that
board there is no mention of ECC

,
| From previous post:
| Message-ID: 87k4gus568@newsguy.com
| 
| That helped find something on the build list:
| 
| ASUS M4A88TD-M /USB3,AMD 880G, Onboard Video 
| 
| http://magicmicro.com/debay.asp?iid=3674
| 
| But it still specifies unbuffered.  Does that matter so much.
`

I cited an Asus board but the URL below it is an MSI board.

Sorry to confuse things.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Claus Assmann
opensolaris+disc...@esmtp.org writes:

 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011, Harry Putnam wrote:

  ASUS M4A88TD-M, DDR3 RAM, 1333, ECC (KVR1333D3E9SK2/4G)

 But anyway there turns out to be a drawback with that one too, in that
 it's kind of weak in the expansion slots:

 Get the full-sized version (not -M: Micro), it has more expansion
 slots.

  It works pretty well except for the onboard graphics -- see
  the mailing list for my questions about it.

 I wondered about that onboard video... 
 Which mailing list do you mean, an asus list?

 This list,
 Message-ID: 20101215022203.ga8...@quiet.esmtp.org

Oh, I see it now. The thread ends  December 22nd... did you find out
if it was the builtin Graphics for sure since then?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
ken mays maybird1...@yahoo.com writes:

 Haryy,

 ECC RAM is a 'nice to have' if this is a PRO server - but not critical for 
 home use/SOHO use.

 The main thing to consider is you can build a very good dedicated NAS
 server for around $800 USD that can provide you with up to 8TB-12TB
 w/2TB drives).

 If you have a good computer builder, they can design you something
 very nice within a decent price range scalable up to 8TB-12TB (most
 designs) and
 small enough in a mini-tower. You should not have to spend over $1000
 for a good design with high-quality customized parts for just a ZFS
 NAS server in today's market.

Do you have any ideas how to connect with such a builder?

So far, I've only looked at a couple of those build it online type
sites where they allow you to pick parts from a list they have.

The one where I quoted the price 1300+ was found on ebay called
magic-micro.  I have no connection with them or any special reason to
think they are particularly `good', its just one that I found by
accidentally scrolling further down a ebay page than usual and happend
to notice a `Customize it' link.

And I gradually gravitated toward the higher end stuff, as my eyes got
bigger :). They had plenty of various brand amd quads too, not just
the 6 core phenom setup I picked.

I would really like to hear from someone with personal experience with
a builder available on line that would be knowledgeable of solaris and
zfs and the necessary hardware.
 
 You can spend less with a dedicated predesigned commercial unit...

Can you name a few?



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[osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Putnam
[NOTE: The following is a repost from openindiana list... hoping
to gain the benefit of long time experience here as well]

Being much a novice in building for a zfs server, I've cobbled up a
setup with one of those build it online setups... on ebay this one
was. But before I plunge for the green backs.  I'd really feel a bit
more confident if a few experienced people ran there eye down the
lineup and see if anything looks like a deal breaker, or needs
changing. 

It seems like a decent enough price at 1317 (+ Free shipping) but
again.. I'm not one who would really know if it was or not.

This machine will be used as a home lan zfs server, and will be
handling a fair bit of hefty video and other graphic files since I am
an amateur videographer and need to save certain elements of my
projects for a while after they are sold... A single project can
easily run into a 100GB and more... but usually the parts that need
saving are more like 50-80 gb.

This setup will have the 2 new 1tb discs seen in the build and then

  2 500 gb ide disks 
  2 500 gb sata disks
  2 750 gb sata disks 

that are still at this moment attached to my old dysfunctional zfs server.

I will set them up in mirrored pairs so will end up with something
like 2.5 TB of usable space. And then of course take off whatever
amount zfs needs for its workings... but anyway it will be a decent
amount of space.

And now the line up:
----   ---=---   -  
----   ---=---   -   

price:  $1317.00 

CONFIGURATION 

PARTS: CPU: AMD 64 CPU AM3 
   AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHz (Six Core) 45nm, AM3 6MB
   Cache

PARTS: Cooling Fans: AMD 64 CPU Fans
   Coolermaster GeminII S, 5 Copper Heat Pipes, Dual Cooler CPU 
   fan 

PARTS: Motherboards: AMD 64 AM3 Motherboards 
   GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H,Onboard Video,HDMI,X-fire,USB
   3.0,SATA3,IEEE

PARTS: Memory: DDR3 Dual Channel memory 
   16GB (4x4GB) PC10600 DDR3 1333 Dual Channel 

PARTS: Video  TV Cards: PCI-Express Video cards 
   NONE SELECTED 

,
| [Aside: the following drives could as well be 2 TB WD green (as the
| 1tb WD black shown below) for an extra $33 per,(total $66), but I was
| not sure if at some point the shear size begins to be a problem by
| itself for things like scrub or resilvering.
| 
| Any comments on that would be welcome too.]
`

PARTS: Hard Drives 
   1000.0GB Western Digital Black 7200RPM SATA 3 6.0Gb/s 64m 
   cache

PARTS: Hard Drives 
   1000.0GB Western Digital Black 7200RPM SATA 3 6.0Gb/s 64m 
   cache

PARTS: CD/DVD/R/RW Drives: DVD Recorders 
   Lite On 22x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW 

PARTS: Sound Cards 
   Realtek HD digital audio (onboard) 

PARTS: Networking: Network Cards 
   Ethernet network adapter (onboard) 

PARTS: Cases / Power Supplies: Cases 
   Antec P193 Black Case, Full Tower, 11 bays, front USB  eSATA 

PARTS: Cooling Fans: Case Fans 
   Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans) 

PARTS: Power Supply 
   Corsair 750W ultra quiet ATX Power Supply, SLI  X-fire 
   ready

PARTS: Speakers 
   Black Multimedia amplified stereo speakers 

SOFTWARE: Operating Systems 
  NONE SELECTED 

PARTS: Assembly and Test 
   Standard assembly and test 3-5 business days 


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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com
writes:

First, thanks for the good input 

 PARTS: Memory: DDR3 Dual Channel memory
 16GB (4x4GB) PC10600 DDR3 1333 Dual Channel
 Get ECC RAM for a ZFS server. Don't skimp - get it.  DDR3-1333 is
 fine, though you might have to use DDR3-1066 for your motherboard when
 doing ECC. Check your MB manual.  Either way, you won't notice the
 difference.

I've asked this in another thread, but since you mention it here maybe
if you are willing, I could get a brief notion from you as to what it
means to use ECC or not.  And the relationship of buffered/unbuffered.

In the specs of memory... its quite confusing how that kind of stuff
is listed if you don't now poop about what it really means.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Putnam
First off, thanks for the good input.  And excuse the little post
inbetween asking about ECC and Buffering.   I'd still like to hear
your comments but I did find what appears to be an excellent (not so
technical) discussion of about those point here:

  http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/RAM.htm

Now, let me also say that some of the changes you recommend would mean
that I would not be able to use the Build it online system where I did
the system we are discussing.

Changes are possible but only within what is probably quite a narrow
range compared to what is available.

So to get to the main changes... I'd need to build it myself or pay
someone to build it who would allow me to say what hardware would be
used in all aspects.

I am a bit reluctant to build it myself.  I spent a lifetime either
doing high rigging where we handled 1 1/2 inch cabling and bigger to
move 100 ton pieces around or doing heavy duty welding where 1/2 plate
would be about the lightest I'd be likely to work with.

All that to say my hands are not accustomed to doing fine work so I
suspect I'd break something or run into problems I don't now how to
solve and end up taking a good long time to get a system built.

Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com
writes:

[...]

 This machine will be used as a home lan zfs server, and will be
 handling a fair bit of hefty video and other graphic files since I am
 an amateur videographer and need to save certain elements of my
 projects for a while after they are sold... A single project can
 easily run into a 100GB and more... but usually the parts that need
 saving are more like 50-80 gb.

 [snip]

 I'm assuming, by your statement above, that this will be just a file
 server, and you will only run light interactive (or, at best,
 infrequent) jobs.

I would probably do a project on a zfs share as much as possible.  I
guess that falls into `light interactive' since it would be at most 2
people working that way.

The rest would be all file serving and storage.

 [snip]
 CONFIGURATION

 PARTS: CPU: AMD 64 CPU AM3
 AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHz (Six Core) 45nm, AM3 6MB
 Cache
 This is way overkill for a home file server, that you aren't doing
 anything else with. Even with compression turned on, you're not going
 to be able to stress such a CPU - you'll be disk I/O and network I/O
 bound long before you hit a CPU issue.

 Go with something much cheaper.  An Athlon II X4 or X3 is a much
 better choice.  You won't need the extra L3 cache of the Phenom.  I'd
 go with a low-end X3 or X4  ($80 or $90, respectively). That saves you
 over $100.

That is one change that can be done on the system I used on ebay.

 PARTS: Cooling Fans: AMD 64 CPU Fans
 Coolermaster GeminII S, 5 Copper Heat Pipes, Dual Cooler CPU
 fan

 PARTS: Motherboards: AMD 64 AM3 Motherboards
 GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H,Onboard Video,HDMI,X-fire,USB
 3.0,SATA3,IEEE
 You won't need CrossFire. Or likely HDMI. Look for a motherboard that
 has a couple of x8 PCI-E slots, for possible future use of add-in
 HBAs.  But you don't need anything fancier than that.

There is a limited range of Mobo available.  You'll notice this
particular one has `onboard' video so I assumed then I would not get
any other specialized video card at all, just use the onboard options.

Also some of the boards available, only allow 8gb ram.

There are 26 motherboards available to swap around with, x8 pci-e is
not available on the 8-9 that I looked at.  Is that something that is
commonly available?

Oh, and what are HBAs?  Googling turns up way too many possibilities.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Andre Lue sik3...@yahoo.com writes:

 Hi Harryp,

 The motherboard you listed (GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H) does not support
 ECC type memory. So to follow Erik's guidance to use ECC ram you would
 have to find a different motherboard that does support ECC type
 memory.

Thanks for the info.
 see: Memory  supported non-ECC
 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3342#sp

That helped find something on the build list:


ASUS M4A88TD-M /USB3,AMD 880G, Onboard Video 

http://magicmicro.com/debay.asp?iid=3674

But it still specifies unbuffered.  Does that matter so much.

I've read in other posts what it means and  I understood it to
mean that the data is buffered before release.

What actually happens during that buffering... I'm not so sure.

Some good news is that apparently both of the 16 gb memory sets appear
to offer both ECC and NON-ecc.

Maybe you can say if that is what it means here:

http://magicmicro.com/debay.asp?iid=3572

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Gary Driggs gdri...@gmail.com writes:

 I'd recommend something like the HP Proliant Microserver that holds
 four drives. 8Gb RAM should be sufficient for your needs since you
 aren't using deduplication or if you are it's not likely to be an
 issue for the size of your pools.

Thanks,

Just a quick look around it appears to be about the same money for a
new one, as I posted, but less machine, and if I tried to use  my existing 
4 @ 500GB + 2 @ 750GB drives.  The best combination I'd get would be about
1200GB (mirrored).  and leave 2  disks unused.

If I bought bigger disks then the price shoots up a bit.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Claus Assmann
opensolaris+disc...@esmtp.org writes:

 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011, Harry Putnam wrote:

 ASUS M4A88TD-M /USB3,AMD 880G, Onboard Video 

 That's basically the same what I use.
 ASUS M4A88TD-M, DDR3 RAM, 1333, ECC (KVR1333D3E9SK2/4G)

Ahh great... good to hear from someone who speaks from experience.  So
at least we know ECC is available for that board.  Still not sure how
to get the builders to use that but I suspect I'll have to track them
down and get an oral promise.

But anyway there turns out to be a drawback with that one too, in that
it's kind of weak in the expansion slots:

  1 x PCIe 2.0 x16
  2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
  1 x PCI

But I found another one on this builders list that appears to have ECC
and better expansion slots:

Unless Ian C. is right about ECC, then this board has the same
notation as the other one:
 4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1333/1066 ECC,Non-ECC,
 Un-buffered Memory

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO,890GX

 http://magicmicro.com/debay.asp?iid=3525

And it has a better expansion setup:

  2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 support ATI CrossFireX™ 
   technology(@dual x8 speed)
  1 x PCIe 2.0 x4
  1 x PCIe 2.0 x1
  2 x PCI

----   ---=---   -   

Claus Wrote:

 It works pretty well except for the onboard graphics -- see
 the mailing list for my questions about it.

I wondered about that onboard video... 
Which mailing list do you mean, an asus list?

 PS: Wikipedia is usually pretty good at explaining stuff like ECC
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_RAM

You are right there, I was a lazy slug but really just had a mental
senior moment I guess because when I googled it, one of the first
things that caught my eye turned out to be what seems really excellent
for some one with my lack of knowledge:

http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/RAM.htm

(in case another dimwit is following this)

PS - Is this the same Claus who over the years has answered many of my
sendmail questions too?

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[osol-discuss] Need coaching about used equipment

2011-01-12 Thread Harry Putnam
[Note, this post was also put up on Openindiana general so maybe ot
here but with close similarity and given that I ran osol till the mess
with Oracle came on. I hope to pick brains here too that are willing]

I've been running oi (before that osol) on what is now an older AMD
Athlon64 +3400 with three GB ram which is the max on that Abit board.

My setup is only a small scale home server intended to supply my need
of lots of room for video editing files and other hefty graphic
projects. 

Something has happened to render the hardware unusable and rather than
spend time investigating, I think I'd as soon upgrade.  Even if the
fix were simple.

I'm not looking for bleeding edge but something a few yrs old (2-3).
I'd like to have the option of at least 8GB ram so it would need a mobo
that supports that much.  Also the board should have a nice lot of
sata controllers and ports.

64 bit architecture also a requirement.

Don't care about sound or video being more than adequate.

It could be a mobo cpu bundle or a full computer.

Cutting to the chase then... I hoped some of you may know what is
something midway or so from my old Athlon and up to date hardware.
I'd like to have some names and specs to search for an ebay or
whereever since there is such a plethora of stuff available a person
could flounder around in it endlessly without some specific targets.

I'm afraid it would take a lot of research on my part to come up with
the names as I have not kept up with trends for some years.

I'm thinking some of the folks here will know off the top of there
heads, hardware that would match the spec laid out above, so I'm
hoping to tap into that knowledge rather than immerse myself in
research lazy I guess, but if it does not require much on the part
of any responders I'd like to hear from you. 

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[osol-discuss] About a GIGABYTE 880 mobo and the sata ports

2011-01-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry to be so poor in understanding the specs given on computer parts
you may look up on line.

I'm in the market to upgrade a fading (oldish) Athlon64 +3400 setup with
something a little newer no bleeding edge for what is only a home
zfs server.

I happened to be looking at the specs on a 
   Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H (rev. 2.0)

  http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3424

Which gives a spec on the sata ports I don't really understand:

First let me preface by saying my experience of SATA ports is limited
to technology quite old by now.. maybe 5-7 yrs.  In my experience on
the mo board in the above mentioned aging hardware:  (I think it
is this: Abit AK86-L is socket 754.  [The machine is clear broke down now
so I can't confirm easily])

had 2 main ports and then somekind of raid ports.  Far as I could see
you were able to attach only 1 sata device to each port.
(Of course ports could be and were added by PSI card)
 

Sorry for getting a little carried away with details there, here is
the question:

In the spec at the above Gigabyte site, Under the heading of 
`Storage Interface':

 South Bridge:
   1. 5 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors 6 supporting up to 5 SATA 6Gb/s devices
 
  And in the supplied image of the board I see 5 sata ports showing.

So does that mean each ports is supposed to be able to support 5 sata
devices?

I want to know exactly the sata capacity of the board as that is the
first thing I will run out of since I already have 6 fullish discs
from the down machine to but in.

ps - Note the mobo is given with a revision number. I wondered if that
is something to be wary of, like if some revisions are known bad or whatnot.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Need coaching about used equipment

2011-01-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com
writes:


[...]

Thanks for such a nice overview and lots of bits of informative detail
from your experience

 I like the IBM x3400 and x3500 pedestal servers (which, while they have
 lots of PCI-E slots, only have x8, so no big graphics cards), or the IBM

I'm not sure I understand what you mean there; the `lots' refers to
PCI-E slots, but what does the `x8' refer to?

For my home zfs server, graphics cards will be about my last
consideration I guess.  But what does it mean above by `big' video
cards, you mean long or expensive?


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Re: [osol-discuss] Problem with Logitech G9 mouse

2010-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
user124 9...@inbox.ru writes:

 Hi all, 

I've found myself having problems with my Logitech G9 laser
 mouse on Solaris Express 11. The cursor won't move, and the lights
 on the mouse keep flashing (rather than lighting solidly as they
 should).  

 Mouse worked perfect on Solaris 2009.06 (111b), but after system
 updating the same were happened. I decided to wait for solaris 11
 but, unfortunately, were disappointed.  If somebody knows how to
 solve, please help.

Just to report I can confirm to the letter your description of G9.
However It never worked for me... not on 2009.06 of any build up to
b 134 and not on openindian b 147... 

I may note that my normal usage is thru a KVM switch... but I also
plugged directly into the machine with no better luck.

But I bought the mouse for graphics work with adobe tools on windows
OS and was very disappointed with it.  It sucks for graphics work, no
matter how weighted or which shell is on it, so I didn't mind
relegating it to emergency backup status and sticking with razor pro
click 1.6.
 

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[osol-discuss] Two network adapter on osol as vm guest

2010-11-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup:
  Windows 7 64 bit running vmware 7.1

Opensolaris 134 installed as guest in vm.

I got this installation working and networked by bridging the adapter
with the laptops nic.

That kind of connection means I need to have access to a router to be
able to connect to the guest.

So I want to create a host-only network as well.  Something to switch
to when away from a router.

I understand from VMware manuals that this is possible.  And have gone
thru the steps to create the virtual adapter for it.  So in the
hardware listing there are 2 virtual network adaptors.

However on the guest... ifconfig only sees loop-back and e1000g0
(which is the bridged adaptor).

,
| lo0: flags=2001000849UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv4,VIRTUAL 
|mtu 8232 index 1
| inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff00
| e1000g0: flags=1000843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv4 
|  mtu 1500 index 2
| inet 192.168.0.30 netmask fc00 broadcast 192.168.3.255
| ether 0:c:29:e3:61:4f
`

What do I need to do to help the OS discover the other adapter?

It appears to be setup on the vmware side, and reports `connected'

So it reports both `enabled' and `connected' and should be served an
address from the vmware built dhcp server.

However first it must be visible to the OS.

I thought maybe ifconfigs' `plumb' tool could help but apparently I
have to know the adapter name first or create it.  I have only a foggy
grasp of how to go at that... or maybe better put, no grasp.

I'm hopeing someone here will have done something like this and be
able to coach me a bit.

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[osol-discuss] How to permanently change a machines name

2010-11-10 Thread Harry Putnam
b 134
How can I change a machines name permanently... not the IP numeric
address just the alphanumeric name?

I managed it at least one other time but have now forgotten what all I
did. 

Is there a sort of starndard way?  Or place where a new name can be
inserted and start being used on reboot, or after hostname newname?

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Re: [osol-discuss] [b 134] consensus on create static IP

2010-11-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org writes:

 On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:

 [Note: This may appear as a double post or some goofy cross post
  I inadvertently posted this on the openindiana group when I was
  supposed to go here, opensolaris.general

 I've been pawing around with google looking for a standard way to set
 up a static IP address on newer opensolaris builds, in this case b
 134.

 I see at least 3 different methods described... all different.

 The most recent appears to be Jan 2010... but doesn't say what build.

 Before I start just mucking around experimenting, isn't there a tried
 and true way to do this by now?

 Some straightforward numbered guide that works for recent builds?


 The legacy /etc/hostname.* approach (covered in the Solaris 10 docs)
 will work on any build if you disable NWAM and enable physical:default
 as described in nwamd(1).

 If you only have one interface you can use the NWAM static
 configuration mentioned in nwamd(1). This works in builds prior to 135
 (when NWAM Phase I integrated), for later builds, you can use nwamcfg
 or the graphical nwam-manager.

Thanks for the good info.. well appreciated.

You mention builds `prior to 135'.  I was under the impression that 134
was the last build... since the big oracle affair kicked off.

What other builds beyond 134 are available?  and where?

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[osol-discuss] [b 134] consensus on create static IP

2010-11-08 Thread Harry Putnam

[Note: This may appear as a double post or some goofy cross post
 I inadvertently posted this on the openindiana group when I was
 supposed to go here, opensolaris.general

I've been pawing around with google looking for a standard way to set
up a static IP address on newer opensolaris builds, in this case b
134.

I see at least 3 different methods described... all different.

The most recent appears to be Jan 2010... but doesn't say what build.

Before I start just mucking around experimenting, isn't there a tried
and true way to do this by now?

Some straightforward numbered guide that works for recent builds?

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[osol-discuss] About auto snapshots documentation

2010-11-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Where is the on board documentation about zfs-auto-snapshots?

pkg contents zfs-auto-snapshots

Does not show any documentation type files.

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[osol-discuss] Sorry to rehash... turn off system bell b134

2010-11-05 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been googling around for an hour now and seeing lots of stuff
about the obnoxious system bell...

Apparently its gone back and forth as to how to turn it off.

Here, `xset -b | xset b off' does not turn it off in an xterm

I've seen directions how to do it using gnome-config-editor

That does not seem to be available here... (a recent b134 install)

pkg list can't find it

Maybe called something else now?

The volume control under preferences, does nothing to it.
Anyway, what is a sure fire way to turn the system bell clear off?


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Re: [osol-discuss] Sorry to rehash... turn off system bell b134

2010-11-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 I've seen directions how to do it using gnome-config-editor

 That does not seem to be available here... (a recent b134 install)

 pkg list can't find it

Disregard this question, a bit more googling turned up the answer.

Anyone else who missed the technique:

google for the string `opensolaris bell config-editor'

You will find the way to do it.

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[osol-discuss] Is there live cd rescue that understands zfs

2010-11-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Is there a sort of standard approach when one needs to boot a machine
running opensolaris with some sort of rescue disc that understands
zfs?

I have a machine running opensolaris b 133 that won't run more than 15
to 20 minutes.  I'm not finding what the problem is by looking at
/var/adm/messages...or dmesg. In fact I see nothing I recognize as a
clue.

The key word there being `recognize', its quite likely if I saw a good
clue I might not realize it was a good clue.

Maybe that machine can be booted with an alternate operating system
with tools aboard that understands zfs.

If in that situation the machine runs normally... then maybe I can
salvage the data by accessing the zfs file systems

Anyway, is there a commonly used method to boot for trouble shooting
with some kind of rescue disc?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Is there live cd rescue that understands zfs

2010-11-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com writes:

 On 11/ 3/10 04:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Is there a sort of standard approach when one needs to boot a machine
 running opensolaris with some sort of rescue disc that understands
 zfs?


 Use the b133 or 134 LiveCD.

dimwitted question:  Is that the same as the install ISO?

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Re: [osol-discuss] [b 133] Catching messages on reboot from failure

2010-10-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com writes:

 In which case you can edit the kernel line in grub to add a -k option
 to the boot options.  If the system panics, you will be dropped to a
 kmdb prompt.  You can manually enter kmdb with F1-A or shift-break
 from a text console.  You can use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to shift to the text
 console if you aren't there already.  Once at the kmdb prompt, you can
 use ::msgbuf to see the things that have scrolled off the screen.  You
 should get the output a page at a time.  If you need to provide this

Thanks,, very helpful info there

  I'm a bit confused though is all of this dependent on having the
  system panic, or do you mean you can enter kmbd from a text console
  any time?

  For example, if I were to edit /rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst at this
  line:

  kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS # console=graphics
 
 by adding `-k' before the octothorpe above.  

 On reboot, and from a text console I could enter kmbd as you
 describe?

Oh, and by the way, what is `shift-break'... is it on a standard us
qwerty keyboard?   Maybe the `pause' key?
 

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Re: [osol-discuss] [b 133] Catching messages on reboot from failure

2010-10-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Marion Hakanson hakan...@ohsu.edu writes:

 As someone else mentioned, most of this stuff will end up in the
 /var/adm/messages file.  Except, of course, for the very interesting
 lowest-level boot problems.

yeah... I got a little carried away there... I had long ago setup a
/var/adm/debug.log that catches everything log message issued. with

  *.debug  /var/adm/debug.log

in /etc/syslog.conf

Then forgot I had done so... The messages are there alright but now
I'm finding they are not all that helpful... an example at the end.

 The reason why it's so primitive is that at this point (in Solaris,
 OpenSolaris, Linux, or Windows), you're still pretty much dependent
 on whatever features the BIOS provides you, which limits you just
 to the old-fashioned, low-tech text-only console.  There's just not
 enough software running yet to give you a GUI.

I'm not sure what you mean here With the same bios, linux manages
to provide a text console that is vastly more useful... ie, it has gpm
running. I wasn't asking for a gui,  I like a text console... but do
like to be able to mouse copy from the buffer.

About the console messages; they were concerning how to find the
output using fmdump, and using the `Event ID' to do so.

Now armed with the Event IDs that had scrolled off the screen:

I still learn nothing very useful, that is, unless by pounding away on
man fmdump and probably a number of other man pages this can be made
sense of.  But not at all obvious what any of this might mean:

 fmdump -v -u 4021154c-2d57-c54e-ae82-ea27fc2d19fa

TIME UUID SUNW-MSG-ID
Oct 14 04:14:02.1292 4021154c-2d57-c54e-ae82-ea27fc2d19fa ZFS-8000-GH
  100%  fault.fs.zfs.vdev.checksum

Problem in: zfs://pool=z3/vdev=e35825af18775fc2
   Affects: zfs://pool=z3/vdev=e35825af18775fc2
   FRU: -
  Location: -

Oct 25 17:06:24.7775 4021154c-2d57-c54e-ae82-ea27fc2d19fa FMD-8000-4M Repaired
  100%  fault.fs.zfs.vdev.checksum  Repair Attempted

Problem in: zfs://pool=z3/vdev=e35825af18775fc2
   Affects: zfs://pool=z3/vdev=e35825af18775fc2
   FRU: -
  Location: -

Oct 25 17:06:24.8987 4021154c-2d57-c54e-ae82-ea27fc2d19fa FMD-8000-6U Resolved
  100%  fault.fs.zfs.vdev.checksum  Repair Attempted

Problem in: zfs://pool=z3/vdev=e35825af18775fc2
   Affects: zfs://pool=z3/vdev=e35825af18775fc2
   FRU: -
  Location: -


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[osol-discuss] Jumping ship.. what of the data

2010-10-27 Thread Harry Putnam
[NOTE: This post was inadvertanly begun on the `zfs' list but belongs
here so reposting with some changes, introducing another whole line
of question]

If I were to decide my current setup is too problem beset to continue
using it, is there a guide or some good advice I might employ to scrap
it out and build something newer and better in the old roomy midtower?

I don't mean the hardware part, although I no doubt will need advice
right through that part too, but here I'm asking about maintaining the
data on 3 mirrored pools.

I have: rpool @ 2 WD 500GB (old fashioned IDE)
pool2 @ 2 WD 500GB sata 
pool3 @ 2 WD 750GB sata

A total of something like 1.7 tb maybe 35% full of data

I'm a bit worried about whether with modern hardware the IDE drives
will even have a hookup.  If it does, can I just hook the two rpool
discs up to two of them and expect it to boot OK?
   
I expect to make sure I have a goodly number of sata connections even
if it means extra cards, but again, can just hook the other mirrored
discs up and expect them to just work.

Not likely is my guess, so what about some kind of brief outline to
use for a plan of attack?

Would I expect to need to reinstall for starters?

----   ---=---   -   

Another whole approach might be to host the Opensolaris OS on new
powerful hardware setup running windows 7.

This would be because I've become something of a semi-professional
video and graphics editor since retirement... its starting to be a lot
of what I do.

All my tools rely on windows OS... like the adobe suites or the sony
(Vegas) tools.

There just are not really top notch tools that run on either linux or
solaris.

I've been using my Opensolaris machine as a home NAS for the hefty
files involved in graphics work.

So to host OSol on a windows machine running some of modern stuff like
i7 920 CPUs and dual quad cores etc etc   And especially really hefty
amounts of ram.  Adobe tools really love the RAM.

But the rub would be how to get my current data onto a VM hosted
Opensolaris OS.  I don't think I could just attach the current disks
and make the VM hosted OS use them... I'm not sure, but I'd need to
move some 400-500GB of data. 

I'd like to hear a few ideas about that.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Jumping ship.. what of the data

2010-10-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org writes:

[...]

 ATA-SATA adapter hardware is  $5 US shipped. (All of the ones I've
 seen are actually bidirectional and do SATA-ATA as well).

So that would appear as an IDE port then ... good.
 Depends on what your current problems are, of course.

Far as OS goes I don't think I have a problem any more.  I was getting
repeated corrupted data (in the snapshots) on one pool but I think
I've got that cleaned up by moving the data and `zfs destroy -r' the
problem filesystems, then running a scrub.  `zpool status' now gives the
thumbs up, and the pool that received the data has made no complaints
so far.

 ---        -       ---=---       -      

 Another whole approach might be to host the Opensolaris OS on new
 powerful hardware setup running windows 7.

 This would be because I've become something of a semi-professional
 video and graphics editor since retirement... its starting to be a lot
 of what I do.

 All my tools rely on windows OS... like the adobe suites or the sony
 (Vegas) tools.

 Or you could run Windows in VirtualBox. Or both on VMware or something.

That was my first thought too.  But then someone here pointed out that
why would I make windows the guest when the work is all windows native
tools and processes.  And if I had a plenty of ram, opensolaris would
run full tilt as guest... and doesn't need a good quality graphics
card (which is not available in VM far as I've heard.

So it seems to make more sense with Osol as guest.

 But the rub would be how to get my current data onto a VM hosted
 Opensolaris OS.  I don't think I could just attach the current disks
 and make the VM hosted OS use them... I'm not sure, but I'd need to
 move some 400-500GB of data.

 Yes, you should be able to just attach the disks to any regular VM.

Are you saying you can set things in Vbox or VMware so that the guest
uses actual hardware with no `virtual' layer in there?

In other words you could assign the set of 2 500gb IDE drives as boot
and rpool mirror to the guest OS? And the data would be available like
it was when it was installed on an Osol machine?

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Re: [osol-discuss] [b 133] Catching messages on reboot from failure

2010-10-27 Thread Harry Putnam
David Brodbeck bro...@uw.edu writes:

 On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com wrote:
 The dmesg command can be run
 from a more capable terminal than the console - such as from a GUI
 login session or remotely through ssh.

 If you need to use the text console and don't have another machine
 handy, the screen utility can also be quite useful.  It offers
 multiple virtual terminals, scrollback, and cut-and-paste
 capabilities.  The commands take a little effort to learn (they're not
 terribly intuitive) but this gives you most of the functionality of
 the multiple text consoles you'd find on FreeBSD or Linux.  Screen
 also lets you detach from a session and reattach to it later from
 another terminal, which can be very useful sometimes.

Yes, I know and use screen often.  Not a superuser by any means but
I'm familiar with it.

The trouble is messages like those I referred too pop up as soon as
you longin (in console (text) mode).

Is it possible to make `screen' your login shell?  I've never looked
into that, but I've never heard of anyone doing it either.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Jumping ship.. what of the data

2010-10-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Tim Bell tim.b...@gmail.com writes:

 Tearing apart or reinstalling an existing machine before the next one
 is up and ready is too terrifying for me to consider.  It may cost
 more, but (IMO), hardware is cheap, and preserving that fallback
 option is worth it.

Sound like a smart choice.  I guess this is not the time to be a
tightwad and try to go on the cheap.

The only thing that would be able to be salvaged anyway is the case
itself and  even a nice roomy one like the antec sonata I have, with a
power supply, would be less than $200 I guess.

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[osol-discuss] [b 133] Catching messages on reboot from failure

2010-10-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Why is the console interface left so primitive?.
  Seems it would at
least have a usable mouse so one could have some chance of copy paste
when there are what appear to be important messages written to
console.

This is only a problem, of course if you cannot manage a gui boot for
whatever reason, you are fairly dim witted and not very knowledgeable
about where to find the problems enumerated in the console messages,
or the solaris logging, error tracking etc scheme.

I have messages on my console that came following a complete power
failure and reboot, I'm told to use fmdump to find information from
the `EVENT-ID' but of course those IDs have scrolled past the visible
console screen.

I see no way to dump the screen or copy in any way the messages now
scrolled past... further even the ones still visible would require
taking them down in longhand and moving to a different machine to
relog in via ssh or such.  Seems ridiculous on the face of it to have
such a primitive console in 2010.

And finally there is one helpful bit in the messages that tells me to
find more info at:

  sun.com/msg/FMD-8000-6U 

  That gets me redirected to:

https://identity.sun.com/amserver/UI/Login?org=self_registered_usersgoto=http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-67-FMD-8000-6U-1

Which appears to be pretty useless for finding what these messages
might mean.  And is apparently some mess done by the new oracle crew. 

It seems these console messages would at least conclude with a final
line telling user where to find the messages that have been written to
console...


Well, yeah I suppose I'm supposed to know that already but to my mind
the logging and error records are quite complicated on solaris, or at
least it seems so given my linux background.

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Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine

2010-10-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Gary gdri...@gmail.com writes:

 It occurred to me that you might get better graphics performance by
 _not_ running your Windows apps in a virtual machine. If that's
 critical then you may want to virtualize Solaris instead. Or dual
 boot. Just a thought...

Not sure why I never thought of that... But I think you are probably
right.

A heavy duty machine running windows 7 makes more sense to deal with
windows apps such as photoshop and its pals in the Adobe suites.

The Opensolaris NAS could be run virtual quite well I suspect. And
especially since my usage is more commandline than GUI in opensolaris.

Long as I have plenty of discs attached to the machine.  My current
setup has 3 sets of mirrored discs.  Two of 500GB and 1 of 750GB so 6
discs in all.  Then maybe two more (not mirrored) 750GB for the
windows install and working room for video and graphics work plus
enough space for temporary bckups of working projects. (I only send
them to the NAS when they are completed)

That would still be a way of killing two birds with one heavy duty
machine, and be a serious upgrade all around.

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Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine

2010-10-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com
writes:

 It occurred to me that you might get better graphics performance by
 _not_ running your Windows apps in a virtual machine. If that's
 critical then you may want to virtualize Solaris instead. Or dual
 boot. Just a thought...

 I had exactly the same thought (but not expressed it
 somehow). Virtualized Windows 7 should work well for calculations
 such as rendering, but not real-time rendering on screen. Virtual
 graphics card is far less good than a real one.

I think you guys are right... Not sure why I didn't think of it...

A seniour moment or just a `Duh' moment.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Fwd: [OT] Openindiana mailing list

2010-10-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org writes:

 Harry,

 I tried entering your email in the subscription form, and there was no
 problem. I guess there was a typo in the address during your previous
 attempt to subscribe. If you clicked through the confirmation message, you
 should be subscribed now.

Well thanks for the taking the time.

I did check my address several times while at the subscription
page.  But it would not be the first time I was blind to some error.

When you mention the `confirmation message' are you referring to one from
gmane or do you mean I should have gotten something from the list
itself?

If the latter then I have received nothing.

Going thru the subscription process again and you are right that my
email address is not rejected.  I should be good now 

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[osol-discuss] [OT] Openindiana mailing list

2010-10-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry for the ot, but hoped to find an openindiana enthusiast who can
coach me a bit.

Trying to subscribe to openindiana-discuss mailing list at:
  http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

My request is rejected with:

  Your subscription is not allowed because the email address you gave 
  is insecure

In the dozens, maybe over 100 Mailing groups I've belonged to over the
years, I've never had this happen.

I wanted to subscribe so as to be able to post through `gmane' to the
Openindiana group.

If the mailing list will not accept my email, how is a subscription possible?

The statement says my address is insecure, but isn't that true of ANY
email address that has been posted on the internet?

Can anyone coach me

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Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] Openindiana mailing list

2010-10-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Jim Grisanzio jim.grisan...@oracle.com
writes:
 hi ... opensolaris.org does not host that mailing list. Our lists are
 here: http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo. We used to have a
 list called indiana-discuss, but that list is not longer used and the
 archives are here:
 http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/indiana-discuss/.


Thank you, but that was understood.  As mentioned in my post I hoped
to find an openindiana enthusiast here as there are many lurking or
posting here.

Hoping to get to an openindiana reader who may know what I need to do
since I'm rejected from that list as mentioned.

And as noted in my subject line it is Off topic here... sorry.

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[osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine

2010-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm at the point where I need to upgrade my hardware for my home zfs
server.  Its not that I've outstripped the hardware with work, but
more that hardware is getting pretty old and showing signs of
problems. 

Hardware is Athlon64 +3400 2.2Ghz.  It only has capability of holding
3GB or ram.

I'm thinking to build up a unit that can handle 24 GB of ram.

But that would only make sense if it would be possible on such a
machine to run a virtual form of windows 7 for fairly serious video
editing.  It would not be the main editing interface but would be more
of a backup unit that would take some of the work such as processing
still pictures or creating leadins in After Effects. 

Plus (Killing two birds with one stone) still be an Opensolaris
machine for the backups of other machines and general storage of data.

The NFS angle would be fairly small scale.  Currently I have 3 sets of
mirrored disks. 2 500GB sets and 1 set of 750gb, with lots of room
left over.  Even so, I would still probably add another set of 750
disks for the windows work. So that is the kind of scale involved for
a networked file server come `windows 7 video editing machine'.

What I'm asking here is if running a virtual windows 7 would be able
to take good advantage of the 24 GB or ram?  

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Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine

2010-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com
writes:

 What I'm asking here is if running a virtual windows 7 would be able
 to take good advantage of the 24 GB or ram? 

 I think that VirtualBox will be fairly able to allocate most of the
 24GB of RAM to guest Windows 7 64bit. I did try myself though.

Thanks for the input.  And I'm curious.  If you haven't tried it, what
do you base the assesment on.  You know someone who has done this, or
heard of it being done somewhere?

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Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine

2010-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Alex Smith (K4RNT)
shadowhun...@gmail.com writes:

 You'll only be bound by the Windows maximum memory addressing limit.

 According to the Wikipedia article on Windows 7, Home Premium 64-bit
 edition is limited to 16GB, and higher editions are limited to 192GB.

 YMMV, I run a 64-bit Windows 7 Professional host with 4GB RAM.


[...]

Ahh good input thanks.   
What are you running the win7 host on?
What do you do on the virtual win 7?

I'd like to be able to do video editing at least as well as I'm now
doing that kind of work on an i7 Q820 (Sager laptop) that has 8 GB
ram.

i7 Q820 1.73 Ghz and 8gb ram seems plenty powerful but even then there
some kinds of timelines that cannot play in real time.

I'm trying to kill two birds with one stone, and get both a nice
powerful NAS and a video editing machine.  The best pro-sumer editing
tools all run on windows only at this time.  Like the Adobe suites or
the Sony (vegas, dvdarch) tools.  So hoping to run them with plenty of
poop by installing plenty of ram and going the virtual route.

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Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine

2010-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Gary Driggs gdri...@gmail.com writes:

 Are you running windows locally or across NFS? If the latter, be
 sure to use GigE interfaces and switch. Also, if you want a home NAS
 box consider NexentaStor's community edition that's free for up to
 12 Tb of storage.

Locally only

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[osol-discuss] Moving camp, lock stock and barrel

2010-10-11 Thread Harry Putnam
This thread was started on the zfs list and I guess would properly
belong here.  Below is a short summary of the thread  and a new
response.

,
| From: Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com
| Message-ID: 4cb29bf8.8000...@ianshome.com
| References: 87bp71e59o@newsguy.com
`

On 10/11/10 05:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Osol b134

 I'm experiencing a forced shutdown of a machine.
 It is proceeded with a number of beeps in a steady pattern like

beep beep   beep beep   beep beep

 And onward.  2 beeps pause 2 beeps pause... etc.

 The beeps are the same tone on each set of beeps but each has its own
 tone.  So its .. hi low pause hi low pause .. etc

 I'm not sure what it means but it appears to be somewhat serious since
 it will shutdown the machine at some point... and not too long about
 it.

 I suspect some fairly serious hardware problem.  The machine is
 somewhat old 7-8 yrs and is:
 athlon64 +3400 (cpu (might be) 2.2Ghz or so)

 It has 3 sets of mirrored discs

 2 Sets of 500gb (WD)
 1 set  of 750gb (WD)

 I'm running the machine on a KVM and had the opensolaris machine off
 the switch while having a laptop sharing the KVM.  I've been using ssh
 to login to the problem machine up until now... and now no ssh comes
 up when I boot it.

 I know I will have to rerig things and connect mouse, keyboard,
 monitor direct to the problem machine, but once that is done is there
 some sort of semi-standard way of booting to an emergency set of tools
 to try to see what the problem is?

 I won't have a lot of time, before the machine shuts down.  Maybe 1/2
 hr or so.

 I'm kind of having a brain freeze about this:
 So what are the standard tests or cmds to run to collect enough data
 to try to make a determination of what the problem is?   

Ian responded:
Your motherboard manual would be the best place to look, it sounds like 
the BIOS reporting something (failed fan?)

Harry wrote:
 And if worse case turns out to be the case and I have to get a new
 machine or some new hardware, can anyone offer a small outline of the
 steps that would be needed to move those discs to a new setup?



Ian responded:
Plug them in.

You will probably have to boot form a live CD, export and re-import the 
root pool to get it to boot.

----   ---=---   -   

Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:33:28 -0400
From: Edward Ned Harvey sh...@nedharvey.com
Message-ID: 01cb6938$23f5afa0$6be10e...@com
References: 87bp71e59o@newsguy.com

 From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
 boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam
 
   beep beep   beep beep   beep beep
 
 I'm kind of having a brain freeze about this:
 So what are the standard tests or cmds to run to collect enough data
 to try to make a determination of what the problem is?

Definitely hardware.

To diagnose hardware, no standard test.  Start replacing hardware.  You'll
know you fixed it when the problem stops.

[...]

----   ---=---   -   

Harrys' most recent response:

I was able to get logged in for a while today and grabbed the last
logs from Oct 3.

I see piles of warnings like this:

Oct  3 17:36:01 zfs genunix: [ID 667643 kern.warning] WARNING: Postattach 
failed for hid8
Oct  3 17:36:01 zfs genunix: [ID 667643 kern.warning] WARNING: Postattach 
failed for hid17

But those are peripheral kinds of usb ports or such aren't they?

Where to look for any clues ... so far its been running for about 1/2
hr and not getting any beeps yet, so may be a good opportunity to
extract some kind of diagnostics

I can't get X up ... it just went to a black screen, after seeing the
main login screen, logging in to consol and calling:

but am able to
login at the terminal or ssh from elsewhere to the osol box.

I've posted dmesg at:

  www.jtan.com/~reader/dmesg_osol.txt

I haven't scanned it thoroughly but didn't see anthing I recognized as
a clue. 

If the thing was getting hot, would there be a record left somewhere?


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Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-06-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Erik Trimble wrote:

 All that said, I'm still a little mystified as to why the normal
 development builds are being held back.

 Could it be because pkg image update is known to work pretty well
 going forward (b134 - b134b) but is known not to work well or is
 untested for going backward (b142 - b134b)?  Or could there be other
 things (e.g zfs version 23 in b135) that would make going back to
 b134b problematic?  If so, I suspect that this is a matter of
 protecting people from getting into a state where they can't
 transition from a dev build to a release build.

 People that really want to do development can (subject to periodic
 hiccups) do development on current bits by building their own.

Sorry to side track a little here... I've seen that mentioned in
several places recently, about building from sources.

I wondered if there is a cache of info about doing that somewhere?
Maybe some basic instructions or general outline of how to go at it?

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Re: [osol-discuss] How to set NFS permissions

2010-06-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Duncan Groenewald
dagroenew...@optusnet.com.au writes:

 The NFS share is already set up and works fine from my Macbook, just
 not from the Windows PC.  But the the Macbook is running UNIX and
 the user ID is the same as the user id on the opensolaris server.

I think you were on the right track wondering if smb would not be
better.  It is after all the native protocol to windows.

But that doesn't mean you need to stop using nfs.  Far as I know the
share can have both turned on... I have that setup in several places.

I recommend you zfs set smbshare=on file/system
zfs set smbshare=name=somecoolname file/system

Then somecoolname will be what windows sees and uses.

You do need to start the smb server of course.

If things are setup ok then `svcadm enable -r smb/server'

You may need to join a work group too.  Maybe someone else can supply
that info, its been so long ago that I did that I've forgotten the
required commands.

Once these things are done I'd recommend you use a tried and tested
chmod command that has ben mentioned on these forums many times as a
way to cure windows to solaris server problems.

  (Note it is `/bin/chmod' in case solaris native chmod is not first
   in your path... gnu chmod doesn't now anything about this command)

 /bin/chmod -R A=everyone@:full_set:fd:allow /file/system/containing/share 

Once that is done then let windows do the rest, like creating
directories or whatever.

Before actually doing any of the above, you may want to verify its not
going to cause some kind of mess.  My usage is strictly homeboy home
lan so any problems are not going to effect anyone else but me.. if
that isn't true in your case... please verify the above procedure.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-06-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com writes:

 Good starting points are:

 http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+indiana/building_on
 http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/downloads#HBuildingOpenSolaris

Thanks .. great clues.

I noticed at the first URL the author made the mistake often made,
that everyone in the world knows what he's talking about... and thereby
never bothers to tell the reader what `ON' means.

Looks like a title like:

  Building and testing ON on the OpenSolaris Distribution

Would demand at a minimum that the author say what `ON' is.

But this seems like an excellent start... thanks again.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Seeing .nfs0000000000002def00000002 on nfs mounts from linux

2010-04-22 Thread Harry Putnam

Haaa lots of nice input there... thanks folks

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[osol-discuss] Where to get iso of b 133 or b 134

2010-04-15 Thread Harry Putnam
I think this may have been mentioned already here, but looking home
page of opensolaris.org, I'm not seeing a pointer.

Are there available isos of b 133/134?

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[osol-discuss] Mounted nfs share - client root cannot write to it.

2010-04-10 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm pretty green with both zfs and nfs.  Only started using nfs since
I got involved with opensolaris (linux background before that)

I'm finding that when I have a zfs filesystem exported from zfs server
as NFS 3, and mounted on a linux client that my user can read/write
freely on it, but the linux ROOT user cannot.

I wondered if that is normal.

My export is done only through `zfs set sharenfs=on' mechanism with no
other options set. 

The export is also set to UID:GID of a user on both machines by root
on the server.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Mounted nfs share - client root cannot write to it.

2010-04-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de
writes:

 That's normal!

 You need to set the root= option...

 Like in:

  zfs set sharenfs=ro...@192.168.2 pfuetz/smb-share

 See man share_nfs...

Thanks, it appears I need to add:
  root_mapping=uid
as well

The man page indicates it would be added like:

zfs set sharenfs=ro...@192.168.0.0/24,root_mapping=reader z3/projects

And by cracky, it worked just fine.

Thanks.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de
writes:

  more ISVs,

ISV ?

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Re: [osol-discuss] [basic] cmds to discover/report hardware

2010-04-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Bart Smaalders bart.smaald...@sun.com writes:

[...]

 shawn.wal...@oracle.com said:
 Have you checked the output of prtdiag and prtconf -v ?

 Also smbios, and scanpci (in /usr/bin/X11/ on Solaris-10).

 Nice...

 I think most or maybe all that same info is available buy running the
 program `Device Driver Utility'. However see below for what happens
 here.

 Does anyone know the keyboard command to run the:

 Device Driver Utility

[...]

 So how can I start it from the cmdline?


 ddu as root...

Well since the X session is not owned by root I get an error about not
being able to open the display but its followed by what looks like a
python error:

 # ddu
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: No protocol specified

 /usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:57: GtkWarning: 
could not open display
  warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/ddu, line 53, in module
import pynotify
 ImportError: No module named pynotify

And trying with pfex from the user whos X session it is:

   pfexec ddu

  Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/ddu, line 53, in module
import pynotify
  ImportError: No module named pynotify

This is with build 133

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Re: [osol-discuss] about snapshot schedule

2010-04-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Oscar del Rio del...@mie.utoronto.ca writes:

 On 4/1/2010 5:35 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'm seeing something in the */.zfs/snapshot  directories I hadn't
 noticed before.  For example in /.zfs/snapshot

 There are only files with names like:
 zfs-auto-snap:frequent[...]
 zfs-auto-snap:weekly[...]
 zfs-auto-snap:monthly[...]

 No hourly or daily snapshots

 check svcs -a | grep snap to see if any of the snapshot services has
 failed and is in maintenance mode.  Sometimes a simple svcadm clear
 service-name brings them back online.

They're all online:
 online Mar_12   svc:/system/filesystem/zfssnap-roleadd:default
 online Mar_12   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly
 online Mar_12   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:frequent
 online Mar_12   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:weekly
 online Mar_12   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:daily
 online Mar_12   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:hourly


Edward Ned Harvey solar...@nedharvey.com
writes:

[...]

 Depending on how you installed autosnapshot, you might check root's crontab.

It was installed however a default install does it.
My last update was from b128 to b133... I didn't do anything special
regarding auto snapshot setup.

 Also, do this:
   zfs get com.sun:auto-snapshot:hourly rpool
   zfs get com.sun:auto-snapshot:daily rpool
   zfs get com.sun:auto-snapshot:frequent rpool

Those show much of nothing:

  example:
 root # zfs get com.sun:auto-snapshot:hourly rpool
 NAME   PROPERTY  VALUE  SOURCE
 rpool  com.sun:auto-snapshot:hourly  -  -

However, I see the same output from zpools z2 and z3 but those pools
have recent hourly and daily snapshots on disk.

Far as I new, this is all that needed setting to have the defaults in
play:

   zfs get com.sun:auto-snapshot rpool
  NAME   PROPERTY   VALUE  SOURCE
  rpool  com.sun:auto-snapshot  true   local

And that is set the same for all zpools, still rpool is getting
different treatment than my 2 other zpools.

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[osol-discuss] [basic] cmds to discover/report hardware

2010-04-01 Thread Harry Putnam
I may have asked this question here before, but I'm finding no
evidence of it.

If I wanted to find as much info as I can about a machines hardware
what commands would I use?

Things like hdd and there specs.  Video card, sound etc etc.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [basic] cmds to discover/report hardware

2010-04-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Ghee Teo ghee@sun.com writes:

 On 04/ 1/10 04:38 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I may have asked this question here before, but I'm finding no
 evidence of it.

 If I wanted to find as much info as I can about a machines hardware
 what commands would I use?


 Have you tried the command, ddu?

No, thanks... I didn't now about that.
   /usr/ddu/bin/i386/all_devices

Shows quite a bit of info but still can't determine the motherboard.

Not sure what else to try with it, there is apparently no man page for
ddu.


I noticed too that it might be listing the wrong sata adapter. I can't
really tell if this line is referring to a pci adapter or the one
built into the mobo.  It does make reference to pci so I'm assuming
this is the pci adapter I added.  If so then the report has it wrong,
because what I installed is an adaptec 1205a.

Can you tell by looking if this might refer to a sata controller built
into mobo (wrapped for mail):

  (Controller)Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] \
  Serial ATA Controller:DEVID=0x3112:CLASS=00018085:[0,8,0]:\
  pci-ide:1:Attached:VENDOR=0x1095  

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Re: [osol-discuss] [basic] cmds to discover/report hardware

2010-04-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Marion Hakanson hakan...@ohsu.edu writes:

 shawn.wal...@oracle.com said:
 Have you checked the output of prtdiag and prtconf -v ?

 Also smbios, and scanpci (in /usr/bin/X11/ on Solaris-10).

smbios has gobs of satanic looking output but apparently still doesn't
know which mobo is installed.

(scanpci)
That shows the same adapter:

  pci bus 0x cardnum 0x08 function 0x00: vendor 0x1095 device 0x3112
   Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller

All good info posters  I'm liking the tools mentioned sofar.

I'm also wondering now if I've gotten things scrambled in my feeble
memory.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [basic] cmds to discover/report hardware

2010-04-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Shawn Walker shawn.wal...@oracle.com
writes:

 On 04/ 1/10 05:39 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Ghee Teoghee@sun.com  writes:

 On 04/ 1/10 04:38 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I may have asked this question here before, but I'm finding no
 evidence of it.

 If I wanted to find as much info as I can about a machines hardware
 what commands would I use?


 Have you tried the command, ddu?

 No, thanks... I didn't now about that.
 /usr/ddu/bin/i386/all_devices

 Shows quite a bit of info but still can't determine the motherboard.

 Have you checked the output of prtdiag and prtconf -v ?

No I hadn't.  Wasn't even aware of the tools.
Nice concise output except hard to make head or tails of `prtconf'
output. 

[...]
pci1106,3104, instance #0
isa, instance #1
motherboard (driver not attached)
fdc, instance #1
fd, instance #1

[...]

Good info and tools... thanks.

(prtconf)
Still doesn't appear to know which motherboard is installed.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [basic] cmds to discover/report hardware

2010-04-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Marion Hakanson hakan...@ohsu.edu writes:

 shawn.wal...@oracle.com said:
 Have you checked the output of prtdiag and prtconf -v ?

 Also smbios, and scanpci (in /usr/bin/X11/ on Solaris-10).

Nice...  

I think most or maybe all that same info is available buy running the
program `Device Driver Utility'. However see below for what happens
here.

Does anyone know the keyboard command to run the:

   Device Driver Utility

Either in the Application/System menu or in some install media there
is an icon left for `Device Driver Utility' left on the desktop.

When I try to run it from Applications/System menu I get an icon in
the taskbar saying `Device Driver Utility' is starting, but then it
never appears, and after 30 seconds or so the icon in taskbar
disappears but still never see the interface.

So how can I start it from the cmdline?

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[osol-discuss] about snapshot schedule

2010-04-01 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm seeing something in the */.zfs/snapshot  directories I hadn't
noticed before.  For example in /.zfs/snapshot

There are only files with names like:
   zfs-auto-snap:frequent[...]
   zfs-auto-snap:weekly[...]
   zfs-auto-snap:monthly[...]

No hourly or daily snapshots

In fact this seems to be true in all the zfs file systems under
rpool. 

Far as I know my auto snapshot settings are what ever is the default.

But in the 2 other zpools I have; I see hourly and daily snapshots.

Am I just belatedly noticing what is the normal default or does this
indicate some kind of problem with snapshot settings on rpool?  

Seems like you would want hourly and daily snapshots on rpool for sure.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [basic] cmds to discover/report hardware

2010-04-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Shawn Walker shawn.wal...@oracle.com
writes:

 On 04/ 1/10 04:26 PM, Peter Tribble wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Harry Putnamrea...@newsguy.com  wrote:
 Marion Hakansonhakan...@ohsu.edu  writes:

 Also smbios, and scanpci (in /usr/bin/X11/ on Solaris-10).

 smbios has gobs of satanic looking output but apparently still doesn't
 know which mobo is installed.

 Interesting. On one of my random boxes running 2009.06, smbios says:

 IDSIZE TYPE
 2 57   SMB_TYPE_BASEBOARD (base board)

Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Product: 8I865GVMK
Version: x.x
Serial Number:

Chassis: 0
Flags: 0x0
Board Type: 0x0

 Of course, these utilities are reliant on the hardware and bios
 actually reporting data back, which is somewhat variable in
 both quantity and quality.

 Likewise, mine supplies the motherboard model and name, but it's also
 a Gigabyte one, and I suspect these tools are BIOS-dependent for
 getting this information.

I notice they call it a `base board' not mother board so I grepped for
that:  

smbios |grep 'base board'
nothing

smbios |grep Manufacturer
  Manufacturer:  
  Manufacturer:  
  Manufacturer: AMD
  Manufacturer: None
  Manufacturer: None
  Manufacturer: None

Must be secretive hardware eh?

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[osol-discuss] About b134 and fixes to it.

2010-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Seems there have been real rash of problems with b 134 and booting
into X.  Will any of those fixes be put out in newer b 134 or only in
b 135?

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Chris chris.sola...@jalakai.co.uk writes:

 Hi Harry, I get files created with UID  GID set by client.  See
 below (some names have been altered to protect the innocent, any
 inconsistencies are due to that editing)

[...]

Thanks... nothing like some actual data to see how it ends up.

So something is definitely going amiss on my setup.

It wasn't clear how your osol nfs share is set on the server.

Is it just done with `zfs set' like:
 `zfs set sharenfs=on pool/path'

Or something more complex?

 from mount list: 192.168.0.110:/darkstar/nebulae on
 /home/chris/osolnfsmount type nfs (rw,nolock,addr=192.168.0.110)

That info from your linux client `mount' cmd may tell whats wrong
here.  Mine has one extra item in there: 

  OSOL_SERVER:/pub on /pub type
  nfs (rw,users,addr=192.168.0.29,vers=4,clientaddr=192.168.0.2)

Notice the `vers=4' so apparently my linux client is taking a share
that is being offered as nfs=vers3, but trying to mount it as vers4.

Mathias P. asked me that very question, and I wasn't sure how to find
out.  I think this may at least show its happening.

I'm curious what your doing here:

 chris_rem...@plato-gent /home/chris $ chmod g-s osolnfsmount/test

Is that turning off set-gid?

Oh, and one more thing to pester you with... can I see the details of
how the client is mounting the nfs share.

I know you've shown the output of `mount' but is there a notation
somewhere that does the job?

And your client is OSX then?... not linux?

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 That info from your linux client `mount' cmd may tell whats wrong
 here.  Mine has one extra item in there: 

   OSOL_SERVER:/pub on /pub type
   nfs (rw,users,addr=192.168.0.29,vers=4,clientaddr=192.168.0.2)

 Notice the `vers=4' so apparently my linux client is taking a share
 that is being offered as nfs=vers3, but trying to mount it as vers4.

 Mathias P. asked me that very question, and I wasn't sure how to find
 out.  I think this may at least show its happening.

Haaa, I may have solved my problem.  Turns out to be some very sloppy
work on my part.

All this time I've been setting:

/etc/default/nfs:
  NFS_CLIENT_VERSMAX=3

When I guess I should have been setting:

  NFS_SERVER_VERSMAX=3
(and that was commented out)

I think I may have gotten a bit confused there. Now I'm telling the
server only to offer version=3.  And guess what?  The client users on
linux host can now read/write with there own uid:gid.

Man, I'm really sorry to the list for all my huffing and puffing when
I'm pretty sure I had been claiming I had the right settings in
/etc/default/nfs (but didn't).

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Robert Thurlow robert.thur...@sun.com writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:

 Man, I'm really sorry to the list for all my huffing and puffing when
 I'm pretty sure I had been claiming I had the right settings in
 /etc/default/nfs (but didn't).

 This makes a lot more sense.  NFSv4 should have worked for
 you if you had the client and server both set to the same
 NFSv4 domain - if you care to work on this, we can.

 Rob T

Thanks for the offer.  Is there something NFSv4 offers that would make
it worth doing?

This is a home lan so only light usage.

My domain is a fake homeboy domain that will not resolve on any
nameserver (I don't run a local DNS server).

  `HOST.local.lan'
   192.168.0.NNN

However its there in /etc/hosts, so for internal work, the resolver
looks there first and it seems to fly. 

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de
writes:

 Hey, Harry, no problem! Sometimes we all can't see the forest for the
 trees... We all assumed, it must have been something like that.

 Glad it worked out finally!

You put quite a bit into it, thanks for you patience and time.

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de
writes:

 Harry,

 all very bizarre... ;-)

Probably do to ill informed bumbling on my part.

[...]

  What's the output of:
 
  ls -ld  /export/home/reader
 
  Does that resolve and list the user-name and group-name?
 
 yes, well no.  
 
 I've found what may explain some of this... it appears somewhere in
 the last few updates on client... my carefully hand edited gid has
 disappeared.

 Strange! I don't know of any automated tool, that would edit either
 /etc/passwd or /etc/group...

I should have said `reinstall' instead of `upgrade' (on client). There
was a full `from scratch' reinstall, so basic stuff was reset to
default and haven't gotten it all back together yet.  Still finding
things I had setup but forgotten about.

Somewhere on these opensolaris lists (mnths ago), I was told that I
needed a user with same uid gid on both server and client for NFS to
work well but I'm not seeing that anywhere in share_nfs.

[...]

 Back to NVS v4 vs. v3. I've no idea, on how Linux does define the
 version, you mentioned, it's been done in a config file, and that
 you did set that to be v3.

Thanks again for your patience.

I'm not sure either (about nfs on linux)  but am checking into that
now.

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de
writes:
 So, if user willi on the Linux client hat UID 4711, then on the SERVER you
 should see 4711 as the owner of a file, that had been created by willi on
 a filesystems that had been mounted from the server. The server does not need
 to know, that 4711 is willi, it will still create the file with the ID
 4711. That's the basice rule... as long, as the UID is NOT 0 or root...

Do you have any linux clients to osol nfs server?

If not Matthias, then is there anyone else here who has an osol NFS
server with a linux client, where you can show a simple `ls -l' (on
the client) in a directory created on the mounted nfs share, by a
linux user.


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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com writes:


  Any files/directories create by the linux user end up with
  nobody:nobody uid:gid and any attempt to change that from the client
  host fails, even if done as root.

 It looks to me like you are using NFSv4 and the NFS mapping domains do
 not match.  See /etc/default/nfs on OpenSolaris and I don't know what
 on Linux.

No, that has always been set with:
  grep '^[^#].*VERSMAX'  /etc/default/nfs
  NFS_CLIENT_VERSMAX=3

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de
writes:

 Harry,

 sorry for my first answer, now that you rephrased some of the
 original post, I now remember, what your initial problam really
 was... More inline below...

It may not have been or still may not be much of a clear exposition on
my part either...

[...]

 OK, so that ROOT can chnage things, you need to add options to the
 EXPORT side (aka, the ZFS server)

[...]

  zfs set sharenfs=ro...@192.168.2 pfuetz/smb-share

Thanks for that.

[...]

 You state, that you have the users and groups entries on BOTH
 (client + server) done exactly same by hand, so that should be good,
 still, I would verify that. And also please check on the ZFS-Server
 the file: /etc/nsswitch.conf for the entries for:

 passwd
 group

 They should look like:

 passwd: files
 group:  files


nisswitch is setup as you've shown

 So, with that knowledge, we need to consult man share_nfs:

 The things interesting to you might be the following options:

  anon=uidSet uid to be the effective user  ID
  of   unknown   users.   By  default,
  unknown users are given  the  effec-
  tive  user  ID UID_NOBODY. If uid is
  set to -1, access is denied.

  root=access_listOnly  root  users  from  the   hosts
  specified  in  access_list have root
  access. See  access_list  below.  By
  default, no host has root access, so
  root  users   are   mapped   to   an
  anonymous  user ID (see the anon=uid
  option described  above).  Netgroups
  can  be  used  if  the  file  system
  shared is using UNIX  authentication
  ( AUTH_SYS).

Not really.  After more careful reading of share_nfs, mainly as an aid
to working with your posts and info, I'm thinking the defaults should
do just about all I need.

I brought up roots inability on client, to change uid:gid but only
because the defaults appear not to be working.  For example:

 nosuid

   =  By default, clients are allowed to create  files  on
   =  the  shared  file  system  with the setuid or setgid
   =  mode enabled. Specifying nosuid  causes  the  server
   file system to silently ignore any attempt to enable
   the setuid or setgid mode bits.

With emphasis on the arrowed lines (not on `nosuid').

Its very possible I'm reading that wrong but it appears to be saying
the client machine users will be able to write files with there own
uid:gid.

That does not occur here.  All files are written nobody:nobody

[...]

 And again, the USER:GID exists on both server and client with
 the same numeric uid:gid:
 
  osol (server) host:
 
  uname -a
   SunOS zfs 5.11 snv_133 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
 
   root # ls -lnd /export/home/reader
   drwxr-xr-x 60 1000 10 173 2010-03-11 12:13 /export/home/reader

On closer checking I see the above info is erroneous/.

 Which ls command? /usr/gnu/bin/ls, or /usr/bin/ls? Still: Here we see, that
 the file had been created by a user with User-ID: 1000 and Group-ID: 10.

A default osol install leaves gnu tools first in the path so it was
gnu `ls' I posted.

 What's the output of:

 ls -ld  /export/home/reader

 Does that resolve and list the user-name and group-name?

yes, well no.  

I've found what may explain some of this... it appears somewhere in
the last few updates on client... my carefully hand edited gid has
disappeared.

There was a point whereas neither users default gid matched but each
belonged to group `wheel', which had been hand edited to match.

So there was a shared gid on both ends.  That is no longer the case.
Not sure why.

But even then the share_nfs man page seems to indicate that the client
users will write files to there own gid (there is no mention of
matching gid on both ends) 


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[osol-discuss] More about sharenfs - how to designate options

2010-03-12 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm not coming up with the right syntax after looking at share_nfs man
page, to give options to sharenfs besides `on'

The man page claims options are delineated by a comma.

  -o specific_options

 Specify specific_options in a  comma-separated  list  of
 keywords  and attribute-value-assertions for interpreta-
 tion  by  the  file-system-type-specific   command.   If
 specific_options is not specified, then by default shar-
 ing is read-write to all clients.  specific_options  can
 be any combination of the following:

But using zfs set it seems not to work.

For example these fail:

  zfs set sharenfs=on,r...@somehost.xxx.xxx.xxx z3/projects
  zfs set sharenfs=on=r...@somehost.xxx.xxx.xxx z3/projects
  zfs set sharenfs=on,root=SOMEHOST.xxx.xxx.xxx  z3/projects

All give the error:
  `cannot set property for 'z3/projects': 'sharenfs' cannot be set to
  invalid options'

Whats the gimmick here... its being discussed elsewhere about how the
the fqdn is required, but I haven't actually seen a full example 
`zfs set' cmd showing the syntax for giving more options to
`sharenfs=on'.

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de
writes:


[...]

 You need TWO things:

 You need to START the NFS server:

 svcadm enable svc:/network/nfs/server:default

 and then you need to SHARE some directories. If these are located on
 a ZFS pool, you can easily share that zpool by:

 zfs set sharenfs=on zpoolname


OK, Edward H.s'  post confused me a bit, but as it turns out I have
done the TWO things all along.  So I had it right.

I did do some research on this matter a ways back.

And made these settings:

  svcs -a|grep nfs
  disabled   11:53:11 svc:/network/nfs/cbd:default
  online 11:53:36 svc:/network/nfs/status:default
  online 11:53:37 svc:/network/nfs/nlockmgr:default
  online 11:53:37 svc:/network/nfs/mapid:default
  online 11:53:40 svc:/network/nfs/rquota:default
  online 11:53:40 svc:/network/nfs/client:default
  online 11:53:42 svc:/network/nfs/server:default

  zfs get sharenfs z3/projects
  NAME PROPERTY  VALUE SOURCE
  z3/projects  sharenfs  onlocal

The problem is that when mounted on linux client with this command:
 (one example of 3 shares)

   mount -t nfs -o users,exec,dev,suid zfs:/projects /projects

Wheres `zfs' is the name of the server host.

All those detailed were spelled out with some care in the OP. 

The problem... also detailed in OP and slightly rewritten here:

  The trouble I see is that all files get created with: 
 nobody:nobody
 as UID:GID
  even though /projects is set as normal USER:GROUP of a user
  on the zfs/nfs server.
  (that would be USER=reader GROUP=wheel)

  From the remote (linux client),  any attempt
  to change uid:gid fails, even if done by root on the remote.

So certain things cannot be done.  For example a sandbox setup where I
test procmail recipes will not accept the .procmailrc file since its 
set:
  nobody:nobody
Instead of that USER:GID

And again, the USER:GID exists on both server and client with
the same numeric uid:gid:

 osol (server) host:

 uname -a
  SunOS zfs 5.11 snv_133 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris

  root # ls -lnd /export/home/reader
  drwxr-xr-x 60 1000 10 173 2010-03-11 12:13 /export/home/reader

----   ---=---   -   
linux (client) host:

  root # uname -a
  Linux reader 2.6.33-gentoo #2 SMP Sun Feb 28 22:43:57 CST 2010 
  i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 3.06GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux  

  root # ls -lnd /home/reader/no_bak/procmail_ex
  drwxr-xr-x 2 1000 10 48 Mar 11 14:02 /home/reader/no_bak/procmail_ex


 The Linux host needs to be able to MOUNT the NFS-exported files.

 The /etc/auto.master file is using a later extension to the NFS
 system, name automount. This only mounts directories, when they
 are accessed, therefore auto-mount.

 You could also add the to-be-mounted diretories into /etc/fstab, so
 that they are mounted ALWAYS.

I do it in the init scripts, with the same result.

 But, it seems, you might need to digg a bit around, and get some
 intorductoriy 
 infos on NFS AUTOMOUNT

Well, that is no doubt true...

I didn't use automounting on the linux host but am not having a
problem mounting the shares, with the command shown above.
I do the mount in initscript `local.start' so the shares are always
mounted.

But I am having the problem described above.  Even though, far as I
know, I haven't made any changes on either end regarding exporting the
shares or mounting them.  But the problems began somewhere a month or
two ago.

I have made at least 2 upgrades with these settings in place on the
server end... and the linux end.  Now at b133 on the solaris end.  

I've probably made some change and forgot it.. or something similar
but having trouble tracking down the problem.

The settings on both ends are now as shown above.  But the problem
with all files being created nobody:nobody persists.

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Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software

2010-03-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Erik Trimble erik.trim...@sun.com writes:

[...]

 Bacula and Amanda are the two big  OpenSource backup utilities, both

[...]

Lots of good input there... thanks

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Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software

2010-03-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com writes:


[...]

 Bacula and Amanda are the two big  OpenSource backup utilities,
 both of which work quite nicely with both UNIX and Windows clients.
 Both have a commercial version available (including support) for a
 reasonable fee. Neither are currently available from the Sun/Oracle
 master OpenSolaris repositories (either main or dev). Both are
 available through Blastwave.org as IPS packages, however.


 If it works.  It appears to have down for a while.

I was able to compile it successfully after messing around with
./configure flags to get it to find mysql.h.

So should have a working build now 

Now comes the hard part of learning to use.. Bacula... as I recall from
a go around with it about 2-3 yrs ago... it was quite a difficult and
complex tool.

I think there has been quite a bit of progress with the clients for
install on windows machines... and no doubt in every other way too.

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[osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software

2010-03-10 Thread Harry Putnam
I know lots of folks use an opensolaris host as a NAS.  I wondered what
software people use make the osol host a central backup server.

Looking thru the many packages shown by pkg manager... I didn't notice
pkgs that appear to be devoted to backup across a network.

Are there no native tools for that sort of thing?

If not, what are people compiling on the osol servers to manage
backups across a network?

I know about bacula... and of course rsync can be used that way, but
so easily with windows hosts.

I'm wondering what is out there for osol that can work as a network
backup central application.

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Re: [osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Edward Ned Harvey solar...@nedharvey.com
writes:
 I don't know if there is something deeper going on here, I'll just start by
 saying I'm doing the same thing (but the server is solaris) and I don't have
 any problems.  This has been in production for quite some time, and used
 heavily by many users and various nfs clients.  It's rock solid, and
 everyone loves it.  Very tried and tested.  ;-)  Here is how I am set up:

 Filesystem exported by the following line in /etc/dfs/dfstab:
 share -F nfs -o
 rw=someclient.domain.com,root=someclient.domain.com,anon=4294967294 /export

Is `share' literal... or the name of a zfs_fs like:
/some/shared_zfs_fs?  What does the number `4294967294' signifiy.

 Filesystem mounted by Linux (RHEL/Centos 4 and 5) clients:
 RHEL/Centos 4 machines upgraded to autofs5.

 Following line in /etc/auto.master:
 /-  /etc/auto.direct --timeout=1200

 Following line in /etc/auto.direct:
 /path/to/mountpoint  -fstype=nfs,noacl,rw,hard,intr,posix
 server.domain.com:/export

Egad... I don't even recognize about 90% of that..
So didn't set nothing with `zfs set' regarding sharenfs?

But I'm not a well trained sytem admin... just a homeboy with a home
zfs/nfs/cifs server.

And on the linux hosts, there is no /etc/exports involved?  Or does
your /etc/auto.master and /etc/auto.direct do the job /etc/exports
traditionally has done?

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Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software

2010-03-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Sean Johnson s...@ttys0.net writes:

 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Harry Putnam 
rea...@newsguy.com wrote:

 I know about bacula... and of course rsync can be used that way, but
 ^  so easily with windows hosts.
Type correction: should say  `not' at the carot above not'

 I'm wondering what is out there for osol that can work as a network
 backup central application.


 Even though you already know about bacula, that is exactly what we
 found to work well with opensolaris.

 We did roll our own IPS package, and distribute it via an internal IPS
 repository.

Thanks for the input... good to know.

So in your setup, bacula is a precompiled pkg available to 
`pkg install bacula' then?

Seems like, since osol is often used as a backup server, that there
would be a software pkg available to `pkg' cmd, with a default install.

But of course I imagine the devs have there hands full with more
important things most of the time.

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[osol-discuss] about zfs exported on nfs

2010-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
summary:

  A zfs fs set with smb and nfs on, and set chmod g-s (set-gid) with
  a local users uid:gid is being mounted by a remote linux host (and
  windows hosts, but not discussing that here).

  The remote user is the same as the local user in both numeric UID
  and numeric GID
  
  The zfs nfs/cifs share is mounted like this on a linux client:
  mount -t nfs -o users,exec,dev,suid

  Any files/directories create by the linux user end up with
  nobody:nobody uid:gid and any attempt to change that from the client
  host fails, even if done as root.

Details:

I'm not sure when this trouble started... its been a while, long
enough to have existed over a couple of builds (b129 b133). But was
not always a problem.

I jumped from 129 to 133 so don't know about builds in between.

I have a zfs_fs .. /projects on zpool z3

this is a hierarchy that is fairly deep but only the top level is zfs.
(Aside:  That is something I intend to change soon)

That is, the whole thing, of course, is zfs, but the lower levels have
been created by whatever remote host was working there.

z3/projects has these two settings:
  z3/projects  sharenfs   on
  z3/projects  sharesmb   name=projects

So both cifs and nfs are turned on making the zfs host both a zfs and
nfs server.

Also when  z3/projects was created, it was set:
  chmod g-s (set gid) right away.

The remote linux user in this discussion has the same numeric UID and
GID as the local zfs user who is owner of /projects
 
Later, and more than once by now, I've run this command from the zfs
host:
  /bin/chmod -R A=everyone@:full_set:fd:allow /projects

to get read/write to work when working from windows hosts.

The filesystem is primarily accessed as an nsf mounted filesystem on a
linux (gentoo linux) host.  But is also used over cifs by a couple of
windows hosts.

On the linux client host, `/projects' gets mounted like this:
  mount -t nfs -o users,exec,dev,suid

That has been the case both before having the problem and now.

The trouble I see is that all files get created with: 
   nobody:nobody

as UID:GID, even though /projects is set as normal USER:GROUP of a user
on the zfs/nfs server.

From the remote (we only deal with the linux remote here) any attempt
to change uid:gid fails, even if done by root on the remote.


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[osol-discuss] Mail cron messages to email address

2010-03-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Is there a standard sort of way to make cron messages be mailed to an
email address?

crontab will not accept a mailto=s...@address.there

and /etc/default/cron appears to be limited to setting:
  PATH
and 
  CRONLOG.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Mail cron messages to email address

2010-03-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker A. Brandt v...@bb-c.de writes:

 Not really.  Here's what I do:

[...]

 10 4 * * * [ -x /root/bin/daily   ]  /root/bin/daily   21 | \
  /usr/bin/mailx -s Script 'daily'

[...]

I was hoping to avoid having to do that... but yeah.. I guess thats'
what I need to do.

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[osol-discuss] startx failing after move from b129 = b133

2010-02-23 Thread Harry Putnam
After doing an image-update from build 129 to 133, I'm finding my old
system for starting X fails now.

I usually run with gdm disabled and rely on startx to get X up when I
need it, so have a console login.

I've been starting X with:
  startx /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session

By-passing gdm altogether... I've had many problems with the graphical
login, that have persisted over many builds so have come to this system over
time.

After booting into the new b133, my system fails with all these warnings
and errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

  (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or
'vmmouse' will be disabled.
  (WW) Disabling Mouse0
  (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module extmod
  (EE) Failed to load module extmod (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module ia
  (EE) Failed to load module ia (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dbe
  (EE) Failed to load module dbe (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri
  (EE) Failed to load module dri (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri2
  (EE) Failed to load module dri2 (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module xtsol
  (EE) Failed to load module xtsol (module does not exist, 0)
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module radeon
  (EE) Failed to load module radeon (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) No drivers available.
  
  Fatal server error:
  no screens found

I never did understand the X startup on osol and have no real clue
what might be happening here.  There must have been some changes in
how it works between the two builds (129-133)

I'm checking now if just enabling gdm will work now, but don't have
much hope since it doesn't bring on a graphical login from the
console, which it should when enabled I think... but still trying a
reboot with gdm running.

Well, that didn't work at all.  I see gdm trying over and over but
just keeps popping back to console login which cannot be used because
every few seconds it gdm trying again.

Finally gdm apparently gives up... and console login works, so not
able to get to X that way either.

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Re: [osol-discuss] startx failing after move from b129 = b133

2010-02-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.com writes:

 I would recommend starting your desktop like this:

 startx /etc/gdm/Xsession gnome-session

That fails even on the old build 129 BE, not to mention on 133.

Running the suggested command:
startx /etc/gdm/Xsession gnome-session:

Errors from /var/log/Xorg.0.log (from my last good BE build 129)

[...]
 (EE) Couldn't init device hotkey
 (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed
 compiled for 1.6.5, module version = 1.3.2
 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
 ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
 (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
 (EE) input: Failed to set keyboard LED's: No such device
 (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
 (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
 (EE) input: Failed to set keyboard LED's: No such device
 (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
 (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
 (EE) input: Failed to set keyboard LED's: No such device
 compiled for 1.6.5, module version = 1.4.0
 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
 ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
 (EE) Couldn't init device hotkey
 (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed

[...]

 input: Device no longer present - removing.
 disable primary dac
 finished PLL2
 finished PLL1
 Entering Restore TV
 Restore TV PLL
 Restore TVHV
 Restore TV Restarts
 Restore Timing Tables
 Restore TV standard
 Leaving Restore TV

----   ---=---   -   

Starting X with:

 startx /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session

Also leaves some errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log but starts up X and
seems to run fine.

Errors from /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
 startx /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session:

[...]

  (EE) Couldn't init device hotkey
  (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed
  compiled for 1.6.5, module version = 1.3.2
  Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
  ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
  (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
  (EE) input: Failed to set keyboard LED's: No such device
  (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
  (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
  (EE) input: Failed to set keyboard LED's: No such device
  (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
  (EE) input: Failed to get keyboard LED's: No such device
  (EE) input: Failed to set keyboard LED's: No such device
  compiled for 1.6.5, module version = 1.4.0
  Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
  ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
  (EE) Couldn't init device hotkey
  (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed

[...]

  input: Device no longer present - removing.
  Unhandled monitor type 0
  Unhandled monitor type 0

So, I'm not that sure how correct the environment is but X starts and
I don't notice any obvious problems while working in the environment.

However neither one of those commands works on 133

----   ---=---   -   

Running build 133 now.
I'll post the errors using your suggested command in the environment.

  startx /etc/gdm/Xsession gnome-session:

(Note: I did notice there is no mention of `hal', as there is in
the other failure messages)

[...]

  (EE) Failed to load module extmod (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) Failed to load module ia (module does not exist, 0)
  compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
  Module class: X.Org Server Extension
  (EE) Failed to load module dbe (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) Failed to load module dri (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) Failed to load module dri2 (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) Failed to load module xtsol (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) Failed to load module radeon (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) No drivers available.

[...]

  Fatal server error:
  no screens found

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Re: [osol-discuss] startx failing after move from b129 = b133

2010-02-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com
writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:
 After booting into the new b133, my system fails with all these warnings
 and errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
 
   (WW) Warning, couldn't open module extmod
   (EE) Failed to load module extmod (module does not exist, 0)

 Make sure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not contain a ModulePath line - it
 appears to be incorrectly set for the new path (the files moved in 130),
 and if you just remove it, Xorg will use the right path by default.

 In general, you should remove any settings from xorg.conf that you don't
 need to override - Xorg will use the defaults as much as possible -
 including removing the file altogether if you don't need to override any
 defaults.

Egad.. I forgot I even had an xorg.conf in place.  Removed it and
startx worked fine.

Thanks..

There was a time I tried to get X to have a huge virtual desktop like
I've done on linux for yrs by having this in xorg.conf:

   SubSection Display
   Depth   24
   Modes   1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480
   Virtual 2048 1536
   Viewport   0 0
   EndSubSection

But never did get it to fly on Osol..  I forgot to remove the
xorg.conf from that experiment.

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Re: [osol-discuss] startx failing after move from b129 = b133

2010-02-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com
 writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:
 After booting into the new b133, my system fails with all these warnings
 and errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
 
   (WW) Warning, couldn't open module extmod
   (EE) Failed to load module extmod (module does not exist, 0)

 Make sure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not contain a ModulePath line - it
 appears to be incorrectly set for the new path (the files moved in 130),
 and if you just remove it, Xorg will use the right path by default.

 In general, you should remove any settings from xorg.conf that you don't
 need to override - Xorg will use the defaults as much as possible -
 including removing the file altogether if you don't need to override any
 defaults.

 Egad.. I forgot I even had an xorg.conf in place.  Removed it and
 startx worked fine.

 Thanks..

 There was a time I tried to get X to have a huge virtual desktop like
 I've done on linux for yrs by having this in xorg.conf:

SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480
Virtual 2048 1536
Viewport   0 0
EndSubSection

 But never did get it to fly on Osol..  I forgot to remove the
 xorg.conf from that experiment.

I may have spoke a tad bit too soon... Now I have no keyboard.

It appears there is a problem with keyboard in Xorg.0.log but I'm not
really sure what I'm looking at here.

I've posted it below.

This is on b133

These lines mention that no CORE keyboard or mouse input devices are
found.

(==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/amd64,/usr/X11/lib/modules/
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
   If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AutoAddDevices.
(II) LoadModule: extmod

But then later on hal appears to get the mouse figured out but not
the keyboard.

Full Xorg.0.log

X.Org X Server 1.7.4
Release Date: 2010-01-08
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: SunOS 5.11 i86pc 
Current Operating System: SunOS zfs 5.11 snv_133 i86pc
Build Date: 01 February 2010  03:45:48PM
Solaris ABI: 64-bit 
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://sunsolve.sun.com/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Tue Feb 23 22:22:39 2010
(II) Loader magic: 622318
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(--) using VT number 2

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:4e4a:1043:c000 ATI Technologies Inc R360 NJ [Radeon 
9800 XT] rev 0, Mem @ 0xe800/134217728, 0xf803/65536, I/O @ 
0xd000/256, BIOS @ 0x/65536
(--) PCI: (0:1:0:1) 1002:4e6a:1043:c001 ATI Technologies Inc RV350 NJ [Radeon 
9800 XT] (Secondary) rev 0, Mem @ 0xf000/134217728, 0xf802/65536, BIOS 
@ 0x/65536
(--) console driver: SUNWtext
(==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines)
(==) --- Start of built-in configuration ---
Section Device
Identifier  Builtin Default ati Device 0
Driver  ati
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier  Builtin Default ati Screen 0
Device  Builtin Default ati Device 0
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  Builtin Default vesa Device 0
Driver  vesa
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier  Builtin Default vesa Screen 0
Device  Builtin Default vesa Device 0
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  Builtin Default fbdev Device 0
Driver  fbdev
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier  Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0
Device  Builtin Default fbdev Device 0
EndSection
Section ServerLayout
Identifier  Builtin Default Layout
Screen  Builtin Default ati Screen 0
Screen  Builtin Default vesa Screen 0
Screen  Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0
EndSection
(==) --- End of built-in configuration ---
(==) ServerLayout Builtin Default Layout
(**) |--Screen Builtin Default ati Screen 0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
(**) |   |--Device Builtin Default ati Device 0
(==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default ati Screen 0.
Using a default monitor configuration.
(**) |--Screen Builtin Default vesa Screen 0 (1)
(**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
(**) |   |--Device Builtin Default vesa Device 0

[osol-discuss] Trouble with svc:/system/intrd:default on b 129

2009-12-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Updated to b 129 yesterday, and since then I cannot get booted up with
all services in running order.

During boot I see a report about svc:/system/intrd:default failing to
start

That seem to bork my apache server as well.  Although 
  svcs -a|grep apache

reports apache online it isn't
   svcs -a |grep apache
  online*12:54:26 svc:/network/http:apache22

But svcs -xv tells a different story:
 # svcs -xv
  svc:/system/intrd:default (interrupt balancer)
   State: maintenance since December 22, 2009 12:00:38 PM CST
  Reason: Restarting too quickly.
 See: http://sun.com/msg/SMF-8000-L5
 See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1M intrd
 See: /var/svc/log/system-intrd:default.log
  Impact: This service is not running.
  
  svc:/network/http:apache22 (Apache 2.2 HTTP server)
   State: offline since December 22, 2009 12:51:50 PM CST
  Reason: Start method is running.
 See: http://sun.com/msg/SMF-8000-C4
 See: man -M /usr/apache2/2.2/man -s 8 httpd
 See: http://httpd.apache.org
 See: /var/svc/log/network-http:apache22.log
  Impact: This service is not running.

Any clues what to do about this?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Trouble with svc:/system/intrd:default on b 129

2009-12-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Tim Haley tim.ha...@sun.com writes:

 Not sure about the intrd, but your apache problem may be
 6907454
 apache22 fcgid fails to load, daemon starts, stops and restarts ad nauseum

I'm not getting any hits on 6907454  or on apache22 at:
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/buglist.cgi

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Re: [osol-discuss] Trouble with svc:/system/intrd:default on b 129

2009-12-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Tim Haley tim.ha...@sun.com writes:

 Not sure about the intrd, but your apache problem may be
 6907454
 apache22 fcgid fails to load, daemon starts, stops and restarts ad nauseum

 I'm not getting any hits on 6907454  or on apache22 at:
 http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/buglist.cgi

Sorry a straight up google search on `apache fcgid' turned it up.
And it does show that bug number.  However I rechecked at 
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=6907454  and still
shows no results... not sure why.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Trouble with svc:/system/intrd:default on b 129

2009-12-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Tim Haley tim.ha...@sun.com writes:

 Not sure about the intrd, but your apache problem may be
 6907454
 apache22 fcgid fails to load, daemon starts, stops and restarts ad nauseum

 I'm not getting any hits on 6907454  or on apache22 at:
 http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/buglist.cgi

 Sorry a straight up google search on `apache fcgid' turned it up.
 And it does show that bug number.  However I rechecked at 
 http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=6907454  and still
 shows no results... not sure why.

Not only found the bug commentary but also found the fix suggested
there works for me too.  apache up and at it after some minor edits.

Thanks.

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[osol-discuss] system info

2009-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
I wondered about a home made system info reporter that would report
some basic info about the OS and hardware

   format (show Disks in use)
   zpool list
   zfs list -r
   /bin/df -h

Come to mind as probably most useful in the event the sytem becomes
unusable. 

I'm thinking to script something that posts that info to my website on
a daily basis so I'll always have at least yesterdays info.

There are probably tools that do this or at least collect the info.
Any pointers on that are welcome.

If not though, I wondered if someone could coach me a bit with
`format'

When `format' is run with no args it lists all disks and prompts for a
command. 

It appears there is no simple way to get the output by scripting,
since `format' doesn't close by itself.  Its probably dead easy to run
it with a `quit' or `exit' somewhere but I'm not sure how that might
be done.

I tried formats' `-f file' option which makes `format' read commands from
the specified `file'. So maybe just putting `quit' in a file might do
it.  Something like: 

   `echo quit  file  format -f file ' 

might work in a script but it does not.. I just get the --help output.


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Re: [osol-discuss] system info

2009-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Tim Bell tim.b...@sun.com writes:

[...]

Harry wrote:
 It appears there is no simple way to get the output by scripting,
 since `format' doesn't close by itself.  Its probably dead easy to run
 it with a `quit' or `exit' somewhere but I'm not sure how that might
 be done.

 This works on my home system (OpenSolaris snv_127):

 % pfexec format  /dev/null
 Searching for disks...done


 AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS:
0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 30397 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63
   /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@5/d...@0,0
1. c5t1d0 ATA-ST3750330AS-SD1A-698.64GB
   /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@5/d...@1,0
2. c6t0d0 ATA-ST3750330AS-SD1A-698.64GB
   /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@5,1/d...@0,0
3. c6t1d0 ATA-ST3750330AS-SD1A-698.64GB
   /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@5,1/d...@1,0
 Specify disk (enter its number):
 %

Fails miserably here:

pfexec format /dev/null
-bash: /dev/null .. no such file or directory

From your PS1 symbol it looks like you might be using tsch or even
csh?

Wonder if that makes a difference

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Re: [osol-discuss] system info

2009-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam

About `failing miserably': Total pilot error... The shell I ran the
command in was ssh'ed into a linux machine

format /dev/null works just fine one the pilot gets his head out of
his behind.

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Re: [osol-discuss] system info

2009-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Gopi Desaboyina
gopidesaboy...@yahoo.com writes:

 try echo | format

Nice, another good one.

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